Soros' Worst Trade

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Authored by Kevin Muir via The Macro Tourist blog,

There is this Canadian rock star who retired a few years back and took up hosting an afternoon drive-home radio show on a local Toronto station. Sometimes his program includes a segment called, “Damn! I wish I wrote that.” This ex-rock star will play a famous song on his guitar, tell the story of how it came to be, and then end with his great tagline.

Well, I am stealing his idea with my own segment called, “Damn! I wish I traded that!”

And for the first episode of DIWITT, I present the story of George Soros’ worst trade…

In 1987 George Soros was hardly a household name. He had yet to break the Bank of England, and although highly regarded within the small group of Wall Street traders who covered hedge funds, these types of clients were still relatively unknown.

Yet George was still a player who swung a big bat - especially in the burgeoning financial futures market.

In 1987, Soros was convinced the world’s stock market were vulnerable to a correction, but mistakenly forecasted the crash would emanate out of Japan. After all, Japan seemed most bubblicious, and Soros thought the Nikkei’s meteoritic rise was unsustainable.

George put on a large short Nikkei / long S&P 500 futures position. The trouble was, Soros got it wrong. The Nikkei still had a couple more manic years of rising ahead of it, and the ‘87 crash started in the United States instead of Japan.

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How did George manage through this period with his large position? After all, US equities suffered their worst one day decline in history.

Let’s have a look at the chart of the S&P 500 futures contract during this volatile week. When you look at the following 5 minute chart, and see how the S&P 500 contract was down almost 80 handles on the day of the crash, it's easy to be fooled into thinking it might not have been that bad. But you need to remember that the S&P 500 closed at 281.50 on Friday. So Black Monday’s decline on October 19th, 1987 would equal almost 700 points in today’s market. We are trading at 2,460 as I write this, so imagine a crash tomorrow that sends the spooz down to 1,750 in a single session!

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Many of us know the story of Friday’s decline that was celebrated by some as the end of the correction, only to be followed by Monday’s gap down and the accompanying collapse. Then Tuesday’s attempted rally that failed, with the scary push down to a new low. Finally, Wednesday’s big gap higher that managed to hold all day.

But how many remember Thursday’s open? Have a look at the monster gap down. The difference between Wednesday’s close and Thursday’s open was over 22%!

That story is not well known, and is the subject of today’s DIWITT and is a trade that Soros would most likely like to forget.

I am not going to tell the whole story, but take snippets out of a couple of books to tell the tale. The first is Tim Metz’ Black Monday. Before we start, you might be confused when the author talks about “cars.” Cars refer to contracts because at one point, contracts were often the amount that would fill one railway car. It was something particular to the CME and seldom used at the CBOT. Often, it gave away a trader’s background. Anyways, on to the story.

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October 22, 1987. Chicago Mercantile Exchange trading floor, 9:30 A.M., EDT: The price voltility in the pit has seemed to lose its rhythm and any semblance of predicability, with this terrifying exception: The word has spread everywhere at the CME this morning that Shearson Lehman Brothers plans to sell thousands of cars on today’s opening.

 

Scott Serfling almost stayed too long in his upstairs office and he had to run for the elevator to make it to his trading desk on time. But he is here now, and today’s opening will burn in his memory:

 

“Shearson’s floor broker offered 6,000 cars on the opening. Nobody would say anything [that is, make a bid]. Finally he got a bid of 198, down 60 points from Wednesday’s close. And he took it. Then he sold 8,000 more cars in the first minute of trading. It had to cost them $300 million to do that. And then, in another minute and a half, the price was back up to 230,” he will remember.

 

Serfling’s memory will be amazingly accurate, the Brady Commission report confirms. Noting that the contract opened “an unprecedented 60 points lower,” the Brady report will explain that:

 

“Apparently it became known in the pit that there was a large customer order to sell several thousand contracts, and given the uncertainty of the market, many of the locals backed away. However, beginning suddenly at 9:30 A.M., the futures began to rally sharply, reaching the 230 level within three minutes. Approximately two hours later, the S&P futures were back above 250.” It was an instant 24% decline followed by a 28% rally in two hours.

 

Goldman Sachs bought some of the contracts at the opening, Bob Rubin, the firm’s top trading official will confirm.

 

So did Shearson, acting for its own account, another official will confirm. “I was mad as hell when I found out it was one of our own customers’ sale,” he will add. The seller was high-stakes Wall Street investor, George Soros. “You ought to talk to George about that trade, if he’ll talk to you,” Rubin suggests. But attempts to reach Soros will be unavailing.

 

The incredible bust will be a miracle that changes the life of one of Sterfling’s local colleagues, who on Wednesday, yesterday, mistakenly neglected to close out a short position of twenty-five cars. The mistake could have been a disaster if the market had opened sharply higher.

 

Instead, the price break caused by Shearson’s selling will let him buy the twenty-five contracts he needs at less than 200, giving him a profit of “$700,000 to $800,000. I only knew him by badge number and he wouldn’t talk about it. He just walked out the pit, sold his seat, and he hasn’t been seen back on the floor since that day,” Sterfling will recall.

Pretty wild story. I found the part where Rubin and the squid were there to provide the liquidity to the other side of the trade most amusing. And then Bob needling the author to ask Soros about the trade was just a little dickish. But should we expect anything else from a Master of the Universe?

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Let’s get another perspective of Thursday’s disastrous opening. The always entertaining Martin Schwartz has a great chapter in his book “Pit Bull.”

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At the opening Thursday morning, I was on the horn with Debbie. Prechter was the guru of gurus. If he said the market was going down, there was a good chance it would. Either way, up or down, this market was so volatile that I had to be on top of it. Ding. There was the bell. The market was open.

 

“Marty!” Debbie screamed into the phone, “Shearson just came with an order for a thousand contracts to sell, at the market!”

 

“Quote! Quote! Dammit, gimme a quote!”

 

“Offered at 240!”

 

“Shit, it closed at 258! What the hell’s going on? Lemme think! I gotta think!” How much was I ahead? A twelve lot short at 255, now offered at 240. Twelve times five hundred times the fifteen-point profit equaled $90,000. “Marty! Offered at 230! Offered at 225!”

 

“The size! What’s the size at 225?” At this price, I stood to make $180,000 if I could cover my twelve lots short. “What’s the size?”

 

“Marty, there’s no bids, I dunno! 220! Offered at 215!” Holy shit. What the fuck was happening? The bottom was falling out of the S&Ps. Nobody was making a bid. In over five years of trading S&P futures, I’d never seen this before. “210! 205! Marty, there’s a fill at 202!”

 

“The size? What’s the size?”

 

“I dunno, I missed it! 200! Another fill at 198!”

 

“COVER!!!” I shrieked. The boys in the pit were starting to buy. “Cover the twelve lot, and input it to the clearinghouse right away. I don’t want those bastards ripping up my tickets!”

 

With the market moving like this, it wouldn’t be unusual for the boys to conveniently forget about a few of their trades. “GO!” Click.

 

I turned to my screen. The 202 was just coming up, then the 200. Then a 198, 197, 195. Wait a minute! 197. 200. 204. The market had turned around. But that was all right. I had to be covered at no worse than 200. What a killing!

 

Ring. “Debbie! Debbie! DO YOU HAVE THE TRADE?”

 

“Marty! I got five filled at 200, but they won’t give me the card on the other seven!” “Where are they now? 210? They’re moving so fast, if they’re not gonna give you the card at 200, buy another five at the market! NOW!” Those fucking bastards. They’d buried my order to cover on the other seven. They’d just ripped me off for at least ten points on seven contracts, $35,000 at least, maybe more. Ring. “Marty, I got five more filled at 210, and the last two at 215. It was the best I could do. They’re ratting out on trades left and right.”

 

I was shaking. I didn’t know whether to be happy or pissed.

 

I’d made $290,000 on the twelve lot (5 x 500 x 55 points in profit, 5 x 500 x 45 points, and 2 x 500 x 40 points), and the boys at the Merc had taken about $50,000 in “slippage.” Two hundred and ninety thousand dollars on a twelve lot! That was unbelievable.

 

What the hell had happened?

 

It turned out that Shearson’s thousand contract sell order at the market had been on behalf of George Soros’s Quantum B.V.I. Mutual Fund. Apparently, Soros felt like Prechter and had decided to dump all of his fund’s 2,400 S&P futures contracts at the opening bell. According to Barron’s, when the first order to sell 1,000 contracts at the market hit the pit, “the pit traders picked up the sound of a whale in trouble.” They hung back until the offer dropped to around 200, then attacked. The Soros block sold between 195 and 210 and, within minutes, the market had bounced back to 230, leaving a lot of instant millionaires celebrating in the pits. This is one of the most famous trades in the history of the Merc and many of the details subsequently came out in U.S. District Court in Chicago, where Soros sued Shearson for $160 million (subsequently settled out of court). According to Inside Skinny, Soros actually lost $800 million.

 

“Motty. He was long .up the ying yang and he panicked.” I just remember it as the day I out-traded the great George Soros.

 

I was still shaking when I went into the apartment.

 

“Audrey,” I said, “you’re not going to believe this: I just made $290,000 on a twelve lot.”

 

“Buzzy, that’s wonderful. How long did you have to hold it?”

 

“Overnight.”

 

“Good for you. Now, will you get that briefcase out of the safe. I can’t get to any of my jewelry.”

The part of this story that almost everyone glosses over is why did Soros blow out his position at the open? Did he give an order to punt it out at market? Surely he would understand the danger in this type of order. No, I can’t believe George just told his broker to get it off the sheets at any cost. To me, the only thing that makes sense is that he had a margin call and his broker sold him out.

And then the real question is the handling of the order by Shearson. I dug around some forums and found a couple of great posts on EliteTrader.com from traders who were in the pit during this time.

Author: Pabst

 

A couple of things about that Soros order. A friend of mine who was a local that day in the Spooz told me the filling broker (it was a Shearson-Lehman house broker) tipped the order to everyone around him. (I think it was 5000 plus cars). He told locals “don’t bid me, I’ve got a chunk to go” etc.

 

Not only did he fill the order down to the 180’s (about 30pts below fair value) but he oversold the order and by CME rules he had to take the worst few hundred contracts for himself as part of the error. The error cost Shearson several million. Borsellino and many arbs bought about 2000 on the lows and the market rallied about 20 points in increments of 2-5 points at a crack. A relative of mine was long 200 coming in and bought 200 at the same levels as Lewis and still made money on the day after being down around 6 million early.

 

Author: skalper

 

Man u guys brought back some memories. I just stumbled on this thread re: ‘87 crash. I was in the spooz then. I remember going home that Friday (Oct 16) with a bad feeling. Sunday night the big news was Tokyo…down big Monday morning was unreal. U had to be there to believe it. The Shearson desk got a sell order from Soros to sell 2500 futures (old spooz…as in $500 a handle) before the opening bell. U should have seen their filling broker…..offered it all the way down while showing his size. The locals who didn’t have positions just let it fall like a rock. Not a good day to try and pick a bottom. Best story of the day was about a filling broker who went the wrong way on a chunky order, and made a million plus.

I remember reading another book that went into detail about that morning. Unfortunately, I cannot find it, but I remember the famed S&P 500 pit local Lewis Borsellino figured prominently in the story.

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The controversy centered around the fact that Borsellino allegedly offered it down ahead of the Shearson broker. He did so by screaming “at 220! at 219! at 218!” Usually, if you offer, you have to show size. So the typical pit order would be “500 @ 220!” On the other side, when you are buying, you put price first, so a bid would be “219 for 25.” With Borsellino’s offerings, he didn’t disclose size so technically he would have had to fill the entire pit for all cars wanted at that price. But no one wanted any of Borsellino’s offerings, so he was just pushing down the price ahead of Shearson’s (Soros’) order. Did Borsellino collude with Shearson, or did he just smell blood?

Either way, the pit ripped Soros’ face off in what has to be the wildest open in the history of futures trading.

And all I can say about Borsellino’s, the other pit locals’, and Goldman’s purchases from the greatest trader who has ever lived is, “Damn! I wish I traded that!”

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MFL5591's picture

Filthy scumbag!

Four chan's picture

hes a front for the rothschilds. pure and simple.

MillionDollarButter's picture

Ahhh, Proshares.  When will you make that triple leveraged inverse Gartman ETF I keep asking for?

Joe Davola's picture

When does Jamie Lee Curtis take her top off?

Tiwin's picture

trading places was made 34 years ago.

Are you SURE you wanna see Jamie's breats now?

RockRiver's picture

trading places was made 34 years ago.

Are you SURE you wanna see Jamie's breats now?

 

They probably look the same....they likely are bolt ons....

Pinto Currency's picture

I suspect given S0ros's connection to intelligence agencies that his trading acumen comes from inside information.

GunnerySgtHartman's picture

There's a special place in hell for George Soros.

FatTony7915726's picture

Satan's bed where he will get phucked daily!

takeaction's picture

Soros...and all of the ANTIFA bullshit...I feel it...it is about to get real....

Gentlemen...we are very close...

Very close...

Very close to the end...

Take a look at this...and enjoy...

Liberals can't explain why they want Trump impeached...well editied.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVoJh55a7EU

subversion's picture

I thought his worst trade was went he traded his soul to the devil.

GunnyG's picture

I'd like to give Soros something. A .45acp sized hole in his head.

taketheredpill's picture

 

Jian Gomeshi?

Just kidding....Randy Bachmann (Guess Who /BTO)!! Great show well worth a listen.

 

Spinkbottle's picture

Oscar Wilde, on hearing a clever remark of James Whistler: "I wish I had said that" 

Whistler: "You will Oscar, you will"

besnook's picture

god! it was fun when people traded. bots are boring. so funny! you are not a real trader until you blow up.

Chupacabra-322's picture

Share this EVERYWHERE that you people are able, please:  http://www.investopedia.com/news/soros-bets-against-trump-13f-sec-filing...
 
"George Soros, the billionaire chairman of Soros Fund Management, LLC, has long been opposed to President Donald Trump, making his views clear at a number of public speeches and engagements. According to a report by Reuters, the investor indicated earlier this year that he felt that markets would falter due to uncertainty concerning the President. Now, according to U.S. regulatory filings that Soros Fund filed in the past few days, it seems that the billionaire has matched up his investments with his predictions. As of June 30, Soros held a number of positions which were likely to profit if the financial markets did, in fact, stumble.
Soros Was Convinced Trump Would "Fail"

As of January of this year, Soros spoke at a dinner at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, predicting that Trump's actions would lead him to falter. "It's impossible to predict" the actions of the political newcomer, Soros suggested, but the billionaire remained "convinced that he is going to fail."

Now, the investor's 13F from Q2 of this year reveals that he held put options on iShares Russell 2000 ETF (IWM)

 Each of these three names is an exchange-traded fundwhich tracks a different broad U.S. stock market index. By definition, puts generate profit for their holders when the equity that they are tied to declines in value, so Soros is effectively betting against a number of broad market indices. All together, the Soros puts as of the end of Q2 were valued at almost $1.8 billion, and they constitute three of the four largest holdings made public in the 13F report."...
 
To-boil-it-down, this is PRIMA-FACIE evidence that (((gyorgi schwartz))), AKA, the demon (((soros))), is preparing for an inevitable destruction of President Trump's Administration, which is LITERAL TREASON and SEDITION, and plans to make a massive fortune from our nation's destruction.
 
PLEASE, if anyone can inform Genius Bannon, President Trump, or ANYONE who is able to get this information to the people whom can do something with it, DO IT, ASAP.  This literal insurrection and coup-d'etat MUST!!! be thwarted.
 

armageddon addahere's picture

If he's  short the spoos, qs and Russell since January he's taking it up the pooper.All are up, spoos and Qs up bigly.

aliens is here's picture

Nazi fkers I hope he burns in hell!

daedon's picture

George's handlers have unlimited funds.

wisehiney's picture

soros very best trade will be when he trades breathing for not.

Bill of Rights's picture

My there are a lot of pieces of shit in that photo spread...

Oliver Klozoff's picture

Nope! I flushed four times, it was fighting like a bass.

alexcojones's picture

"My people wanna talk to your people."

Or Chosen People

MsCreant's picture
"Soros' Worst Trade"

Hillary?

Blue Steel 309's picture

Soros didn't get lucky with a currency swap investment. He was handed vast sums by House Rothschild using that a a laundering cover story.

vegas's picture

I was in the SP500 pit that day, and yes, Louie offered it lower; he wasn't the only one though. Everybody and their brother knew a "large trader" was offering on the open ... it was no secret. the other institutional brokers would not bid cuz they knew it was Soros and as I remember, Kidder Peabody told me not to bid either cuz there were multiple thousands for sale, It was a clusterfuck, but when the order was filled, here comes every instution in the world buying, and if you offered they bought. That's the way it was.

 

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mo mule's picture

So the bastard Nazi Soro caused the 87 crash. Now he's back causing trouble again and betting biggely for the fall.  

Cluster_Frak's picture

someone took Soros to cleaners. I wonder why?

onmail1's picture

Scene from MIB where Soros meets 2 Hippies (black boy & white girl)

Couple : Make love not war

Soros : I make both, har har har