"Self Drive Act" Passes House Committee 54-0: Safety Standards Scrapped, 25,000 Driverless Cars Coming Right Up

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Authored by Mike Shedlock via MishTalk.com,

Many contend that self-driving trucks and cars will not happen anytime soon for numerous reasons (most of them easily refuted).

One of the reasons is of lack of approval from Congress.

That argument will go on the ash heap of history by the end of the year because a bipartisan House Panel Approves Legislation Speeding Up Deployment of Self-Driving Cars.

An influential U.S. House committee on Thursday approved a revised bipartisan bill on a 54-0 vote that would speed the deployment of self-driving cars without human controls and bar states from blocking autonomous vehicles.

 

The bill would allow automakers to obtain exemptions to deploy up to 25,000 vehicles without meeting existing auto safety standards in the first year, a cap that would rise to 100,000 vehicles annually over three years.

 

Automakers and technology companies believe chances are good Congress will approve legislation before year end. They have been pushing for regulations making it easier to deploy self-driving technology, while consumer groups have sought more safeguards. Current federal rules bar self-driving cars without human controls on U.S. roads and automakers think proposed state rules in California are too restrictive.

 

The House of Representatives will take up the bill when it reconvenes in September, while senators plan to introduce a separate similar measure.

 

“Our aim was to develop a regulatory structure that allows for industry to safely innovate with significant government oversight,” said Representative Greg Walden, who chairs the House Energy and Commerce Committee.

 

Initially, authors proposed to allow automakers and others to sell up to 100,000 vehicles immediately. Representative Frank Pallone said the phase-in period was essential so “millions of exempted cars will not hit our roads all at once.”

 

Under the House proposal, states could still set rules on registration, licensing, liability, insurance and safety inspections, but could not set self-driving car performance standards.

 

Automakers praised committee passage, while Consumer Watchdog privacy director John Simpson said preempting state laws “leaves us at the mercy of manufacturers as they use our public highways as their private laboratories.”

 

The issue has taken on new urgency since U.S. road deaths rose 7.7 percent in 2015, the highest annual jump since 1966.

 

Automakers say that without changes in regulations, U.S. self-driving car testing could move to Europe and elsewhere.

25,000 Driverless Cars Coming Right Up

This is playing out exactly as I expected. In 2018, there will be 25,000 cars and trucks on the and highways and in cities, driving themselves. I suspect most initial testing will be on highways. If that goes well, there will be 100,000 self-driving cars on the roads by 2019-2020.

Then, once things go well, and I expect them to go well, most of the trucks on the highways will be driverless.

From driver to driverless interstate trucking will take less than a year once final approval is given, no later than 2022, and possibly as soon as 2020.

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Five Star's picture

Another bill certainly not written by the oldest most incumbent congress ever but by some lobby...

http://thesoundingline.com/congress-the-art-of-incumbency-part-ii/

 

Skateboarder's picture

If I can drink beer and watch the ball game while my car drives me to my destination, then I welcome my future overlords.

Pure Evil's picture

A box of tissues and plenty of porn will make the trip rather climactic.

The Cooler King's picture

Where's my goddamned driverless flying car?

JRobby's picture

Once again CONgress moves unanimously on behalf of the oligarchy to limit rights and freedoms.

Load em'

knukles's picture

I want flying monkeys in mine.

political_proxy's picture

Last I heard they are up CONgress' ass

BaBaBouy's picture

Bullish for Roads...
Bullish for traffic reporters...

Anyone without a licence will be able to own a Car and Use the Roads...

Cruel Aid's picture

Oh you'll hv to enter a unique # in order to ride, and your destinations and in route activities will be documented. It's going to be great!!!!

johngaltfla's picture

For those of us who are residents in "God's Waiting Room" the answer is (To quote the bitch):

WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE???

Today in Sarasota, an old man drove over the curb and into an apartment building.

Numerous times all over Florida, old people drive over/into/through people, buildings, cars, animals, lakes, rivers, etc...

Who cares if there is a person or a geek program from an Indian programmer who did it at $21,000 per year?

Hit is hit.

Fuck it I say.

Let the Terminators take over.

80 year olds versus UberPriuses.

Let the carnage begin.

SeuMadruga's picture

And always using their overdraft...  ;-)

Sugarcandy Mountain's picture

Lobbyist: "Hey, Mr. Congressman, we need this shit passed."

Congress-critter: "You do know we have checks and balances around these parts, dontya?"

Lobbyist: "Sure. Here's your check."

Congress-critter: "Gee, thanks. That'll improve my bank balance. I'll get right to work now"

 

HowdyDoody's picture

The USN already has driverless ships so why not driverless cars? What could possibly go wrong?!

 

The Cooler King's picture

"I want flying monkeys in mine"

 

I think monkeys will actually fly out of my butt before I ever see a driverless flying car.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPruGs4IyK4

tmosley's picture

Being tested in Singapore last I heard.

But unfortunately for you, they only accept crypto.

The Cooler King's picture

link please?

or, just add it to your stack of lies when you don't have an argument

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The sleeve is not bad, but the vacuum is worthless. On or off feels the same. Just get a fleshlight. Good concept, but the thing does not work.

Semi-employed White Guy's picture

Or get a girlfriend with an actual vagina!

political_proxy's picture

Soon robots will doing everything for humans. Much of that is already being tested if not already opperational.
Everything from killing, cleaning, farming to fucking, drinking beer, thinking, all forms of transportation, taking care of injured, sickly and elderly bodies and so on.

No need to enter thet Matrix, it is coming for you.

in4mayshun's picture

No, robots will not be doing everything for humans soon. The world will run out of money to pay for anything once enough people are left unemployed and the system will collapse in on itself. The rush to de-humanize the workforce is like a snake eating its own tail. They are destroying the demand that they are trying to switch to robotic manufacturing.

tmosley's picture

>I don't understand the concept of supply and demand 

Modern day illiterates can read, but lack even the most basic understanding of other concepts.

The Cooler King's picture

Entertain us with a 10 deep list of 'other concepts' that you would nominate to illustrate your point. (leave crypto currencies out of the equation for now).

 

I'm not saying you're wrong, I just would like to see where you're going with this.

espirit's picture

Meh.

NextGen freight delivery vehicles are just the thing for driving through those radioactive wastelands where a human bean wouldn't survive. Gonna need at least a .50 Cal to stop one of those muthers.

Oh, and watch out for the armed drone escorts. One will probably perch and recharge on top of the rig while another flies point.

Sugarcandy Mountain's picture

Who's going to change the tires when an anti-technology saboteur blasts them the fuck off?

Lumberjack's picture

Australians forced to pay $60 billion for green energy

http://joannenova.com.au/2017/09/australians-forced-to-pay-60b-for-expen...

Back On Topic, What the fuck are they thinking? May Irma nail DC as a cat 6. Fucking idiots.

ebworthen's picture

It will be fun to get in front of one of those and hit the brakes.

Just wait, the scammers will be doing this then filing lawsuits.

Not the mention the lawsuits that will happen anyway.

Lumberjack's picture

You make a very good point. Now to see if the insurance companies are front running this. (Did your rates go up again)? Who is liable? Did the idiots in DC give some folks immunity? GPS went out for 15 minutes where I am last week in NE during a small solar event.

Stupidity knows no bounds and DC is absolute proof.

Richard Chesler's picture

Never attribute to stupidity that which can be adequately explained by corruption.

BennyBoy's picture

 

Cars will have several cameras recording everything including accidents.

Moving and Grooving's picture

 

 

I think that anyone not currently using a dashcam / car DVR is foolish. 

 

 

Chupacabra-322's picture

Nothing some Pig spike strips laid out methodically across the route frequently traveled by these cars can't fix.

Forward SkyNet.

Lumberjack's picture

No need. They'll do it all by themselves. We really need fire/ems to step up on this one. Seriously.

ffed's picture

AI gonna be far ahead of us lol.  

tmosley's picture

Why? They have reaction rates much better than those of a human. 

Moving and Grooving's picture

And your contention is what? - that the truck can slow and stop at the same rate as a car? There's some physics here that goes beyond what you're asserting, IMHO.

 

And don't forget that this is being done today all the time, between two 'equal' cars, both with drivers. It's an insurance scam, not a conspiracy or a theory.

Akzed's picture

May Irma nail DC as a cat 6.

 

AFTER the Eagles whup the Dedskins' butts, please.

MozartIII's picture

You mean the car Manufacturers and their lawyers. The donations paid for the votes.

PlayMoney's picture

I want to see a driverless big rig back that thing into a tight loading dock off of a busy street. And i'm curious how it stays in its lane when snow/rain obsure the lines? And when mega-bug goes "splat" on the main sensor?

Skateboarder's picture

You add wipers to the sensor. lol.

Lumberjack's picture

And hackers taking control... Imagine these driving in a heavybrain ir snowstorm, let alone black ice.

I furiously object to this really bad idea. And furthermore, amending the constitution to include personal liability for congress persons who vote to implement bad ideas. Call it "Skin In The Game". Includes loss of all benefits.

That's how government needs to work. No immunity and skin in the game liability. Now we are talking.

EddieLomax's picture

Yeah, three things I'm waiting for

1) What happens when the first person gets killed by a driverless car?  Just how big an insurance payout will be made?

2) What happens when people start stealing the driverless rigs?  No one would dream of trying to take over a lorry moving at speed, but it could be done if there is no one at the wheel.

3) They're struggling to deal with routine things like snow obscuring road markings, how about when people deliberately screw them up?  It could be fun shining a cheap 3W laser into the camera sensor to see what the vehicle does.  I bet the road recognition software is going to have difficulty at that point.  Let alone someone with a bucket of paint.

While they might even be safer than humans driving there is a massive pushback from people currently employed along with the problem when one is the cause of a fatality.

BeansMcGreens's picture

#3 Had not thought of that. Just put up a detour sign and the rig full of what-ever goes into a blocked road, will give a new meaning to "it must have fallen off a truck".

Akzed's picture

1) Tesla driver killed while using autopilot was watching Harry Potter, witness says https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jul/01/tesla-driver-killed-a...

2) If it's driverless, how would one steal it let alone drive it?

3) Good points.

espirit's picture

Throw an RF shield over it.

=dumb car.

the artist's picture

Where in the constitution does it mention the Feds ability to usurpe the authority of the several states with regard to what vehicles the states can allow or not allow???

 

tmosley's picture

There is no driver. Why would it need to back in anywhere? Not to mention that "backing in" is only hard for humans. Algorithmic control handles such things with ease.

 Bugs haven't been a problem so far. Why do you think that is going to start now?

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