Pat Buchanan Asks "Should Japan And South Korea Go Nuclear?"

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Authored by Patrick Buchanan via,

By setting off a 100-kiloton bomb, after firing a missile over Japan, Kim Jong Un has gotten the world’s attention.

What else does he want?

Almost surely not war with America. For no matter what damage Kim could visit on U.S. troops and bases in South Korea, Okinawa and Guam, his country would be destroyed and the regime his grandfather built annihilated.

“The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting,” wrote Sun Tzu. Kim likely has something like this in mind.

His nuclear and missile tests have already called the bluff of George W. Bush who, in his “axis of evil” speech, declared that the world’s worst regimes would not be allowed to acquire the world’s worst weapons.

Arguably the world’s worst regime now has the world’s worst weapon, an H-bomb, with ICBMs to follow.

What else does Kim want? He wants the U.S. to halt joint military maneuvers with the South, recognize his regime, tear up the security pact with Seoul, and get our forces off the peninsula.

No way, says President Trump. Emerging from church, Trump added, “South Korea’s … talk of appeasement with North Korea will not work, they only understand one thing!”

On Monday, South Korea was accelerating the activation of the high-altitude missile defense implanted by the United States. Russia and China were talking of moving missile forces into the area. And Mattis had warned Kim he was toying with the fate of his country:

“Any threat to the United States or its territories, including Guam or our allies, will be met with a massive military response.”

As the United States can only lose from a new Korean war in which thousands of Americans and millions of Koreans could perish, the first imperative is to dispense with the war talk, and to prevent the war Mattis rightly says would be “catastrophic.”

China has declared that it will enter a new Korean conflict on the side of the North, but only if the North does not attack first.

For this and other reasons, the U.S. should let the North strike the first blow, unless we have hard evidence Kim is preparing a pre-emptive nuclear strike.

But if and when we manage to tamp down this crisis, we should ask ourselves why we are in this crisis. Why are we a party to this frozen conflict from 1953 that is 8,000 miles away?

The first Korean War ended months into Ike’s first term. Our security treaty with Seoul was signed in October 1953.

That year, Stalin’s successors had taken over a USSR that was busy testing missiles and hydrogen bombs. China was ruled by Chairman Mao, who had sent a million “volunteers’ to fight in Korea. Japan, still recovering from World War II, was disarmed and entirely dependent upon the United States for its defense.

What has changed in six and a half decades?

That USSR no longer exists. It split, three decades ago, into 15 nations. Japan has risen to boast an economy 100 times as large as North Korea’s. South Korea is among the most advanced nations in Asia with a population twice that of the North and an economy 40 times as large.

Since the KORUS free trade deal took effect under President Obama, Seoul has been running surging trade surpluses in goods at our expense every year.

The world has changed dramatically since the 1950s. But U.S. policy failed to change commensurately.

The basic question that needs addressing:

Why do we still keep 28,000 troops in South Korea as a trip wire to bring us into a second Korean war from its first hours, a war that could bring nuclear strikes on our troops, bases, and, soon, our nation?

We cannot walk away from our Korean allies in this crisis. But we should look upon the North’s drive to marry nuclear warheads to ICBMs as a wake-up call to review a policy rooted in Cold War realities that ceased to exist when Ronald Reagan went home.


North Korea devotes 25 percent of GDP to defense.


South Korea spends 2.6 percent,


Japan just 1 percent.

Yet these mighty Asian allies, who run annual trade surpluses at our expense, require us to defend them from a maniacal little country right next door.

After this crisis, South Korea and Japan should begin to make the kind of defense effort the U.S. does, and create their own nuclear deterrents. This might get Beijing’s attention, as our pleas for its assistance with North Korea apparently have not.

Already involved in land disputes with a nuclear-armed Russia and India, China’s dominance of Asia - should Japan and South Korea acquire nuclear weapons - begins to diminish.

“As our case is new,” said Abraham Lincoln, “we must think anew and act anew.”

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skbull44's picture

Let's everybody go nuclear...what could possibly go wrong?

WernerHeisenberg's picture

The most deadly period in the history of nuclear weapons was when only one nation had them.  That nation nuked two population centres to punish an already defeated nation.  That stopped when a second nation got nukes.

FYI, ground zero at Nagasaki was the Christian cathedral, the biggest in Asia.  The Luciferians are to blame for one of the most cowardly and evil acts in history.

knukles's picture

Everybody should just be able to identify as they see fit.
If Iran wants to go nuclear, we should let them.  After all, nothing bad happened with us allowing them to marry goats, did it?

WhyDoesItHurtWhen iPee's picture

Pat Buchanan has always been and will continue to be, a mouthpiece for the deep state.

EddieLomax's picture

No, he's talking sense.  Rather than the US burdening itself with the commitment to defend prosperous nations, step back and allow them to take whatever measures they need to defend themselves.

This is not what the deep state wants, the deep state want a massive military-industrial complex with fat paychecks to pay out to thousands of very wealthy Americans.  If this sort of policy was allowed to prosper the US defence bill would drop and they'd have to earn their money honestly.

Beam Me Up Scotty's picture

Go watch the movie The Incredibles.  When everyone is a Super Hero, NO ONE is a Super Hero!!  Sometimes, art imitates life just a little TOO much.

JamesBond's picture

Trust but verify... that Kim is insane??

FreddieX's picture

Peter Lee nailed this last year:

"If everybody’s got nukes, they not only don’t need the US nuclear umbrella; they’ve got their own defense and security policies and the US, instead of acting as the maestro of the China-containment orchestra, is just the fat guy with the tuba in the back row who provides some extra oompah to support the front line players."

Andrew Cockburn hints at the "truth":

In the world of threat inflation, none of this really matters.  Instead we have the logic of the Marx Brothers. In “Animal Crackers” Chico suggests that a stolen painting might be in the house next door. “Suppose there isn’t any house next door,” says Groucho. “Well,” replies Chico, “then of course, we gotta build one.”

Instant karma:

Ishihara: Japan Needs Nukes

Outspoken Tokyo Governor Shintaro Ishihara calls for Japan to build nuclear weapons to counter a rising China.

March 08, 2011

Date 11 March 2011


Slack Jack's picture

Pat Buchanan Asks "Should Japan And South Korea Go Nuclear?"

Yeah, sure. The Japs were stupid enough to fall for the Pearl Harbor Trap (for those who don't already know the US essentially forced the Japs to attack the US by cutting off their supply of oil etc).

Since they have a history of being easy to fool, why not give them nuclear weapons so that they can attack North Korea (for the US) and get fried in return.

Look, no US casualties.

Only ten, twenty, million dead Japs. Evil plan.

Slack Jack's picture

Emerging from church, Trump added,.....

What? the Orange Jew goes to church?

SoDamnMad's picture

The June 2008 agreement made by the US, Russia, China, Japan, S Korea and N Korea to give up their nuclear development program is just an example of why agreements don't work. Since 2008 we have been feeding them (the military mostly). The UNWFP is to end in November (why not right NOW).

Let Russia and China feed them if they want to piss their money away. I guess those two countries will get more of the lackeys at the UN to continue feeding them though we are the biggest contributor.

JB Say's picture

Its the correct move. And Taiwan too. And Vietnam while we're at it. Surround the Chicoms with nuclear armed enemies. They richly deserve it for their double game in Korea. Its Chinese militarism and expansionism that's destabilizing the region.

yogibear's picture

"Pat Buchanan has always been and will continue to be, a mouthpiece for the deep state."


You know little.

Pat Buchanan  was black-balled by the deep state. He conflicted with the Chaney and Bushes so they ousted him.

Pat Buchanan is a true conservative and talks in terms of the US as a republic, not democracy.

Normalcy Bias's picture

bbbut...It's so much easier to throw an ad hominem attack, than to actually counter the valid points that Buchanan made!

Crawdaddy's picture

Don't sweat it WDIH - The latest crop of Drudge home pagers are not yet up to speed on the true identity of the bad guys. If they have a lick of sense they'll join ranks one day. Otherewise they will remain with those who justify their chains and defend their slave masters.

Implied Violins's picture

I think we should arm the Amish, personally.

JamesBond's picture

They are batshit crazy... so it works for me.

Big Creek Rising's picture

Ok, but only the ones listed in the phone book

Implied Violins's picture

They may be the only people left who actually use a phone book...'s picture

"Everybody should just be able to identify as they see fit.
If Iran wants to go nuclear, we should let them.  After all, nothing bad happened with us allowing them to marry goats, did it?"


Other than Iranian goat-boys trying to get a spot on Saturday Night Live, probably not.

smallblockchevy350's picture

Do you have a source to back up the cathedral claim?

TuPhat's picture

Japans autocratic ruler at the time was practically considered a god in their state religion.  I highly doubt the largest christian cathedral in asia was in Japan, except there were very few to almost no christians in asia at that time so it could have been very small.  A very doubtfull claim at best.

Crawdaddy's picture

So it was Jap Protestant areas that were bombed in WW2? Amazingly similar to the German fire bombings. What a coincidence!

Who has a problem with the Protestants? Oh yeah I forget, those guys.

caesium's picture

Nagasaki has been the centre of missionary activity since the 16th century - the Christian centre of Japan. 400 years of work destroyed in seconds.

Omen IV's picture

The Korean War began with a MacArthur False Flag plan carried out by Sigmund Rhee

Millions died is small villages at the hands of US jellied gasoline bombs - Red China was the ultimate objective

over and over again US action produces reaction and then another action decades later and nothing is better today

idahobandito's picture

do you really believe this shit you post? 

smallblockchevy350's picture

When every country has nukes it's like when everybody in town is carrying a gun. An armed society is a polite society. If it works with guns it'll probably work with nukes too.

skbull44's picture

Armed societies are also prone to occasional shootouts, not something we want to test with nukes.

Blue Steel 309's picture

World peace, perhaps. If everyone had a deterrent against Rothschild wars, we might become a less corrupt planet.

smallblockchevy350's picture

I got a deterrent against Rothschilds. Just waitin' to see if I ever get a chance to use it on one of 'em.

skbull44's picture

Perhaps. Perhaps not. The more we have, the more likely some 'unhinged' element gets a few...

Blue Steel 309's picture

There is no way to prove that, because humans are dynamic and governments even more so.

Generally self preservation begets controls. Control keep any lone crazy man from ending the world. Self preservation also facilitates cooperation between States that such controls are in place.

skbull44's picture

Well, 'proof' is only relevant in mathematics and jurisprudence. All the rest are just 'educated guesses'...

Blue Steel 309's picture

That was my point, but maybe some people need it said out loud.

Big Creek Rising's picture

What, like in Chicago?

Your proposal requires an overly sanguine view of a whole lot of diverse countries and cultures.

Blue Steel 309's picture

Your understanding of humanity and social systems does not.

Cash2Riches's picture

China may not like it, and may be mouthing off to Trump. BUT even they know that ultimately, North Korea NEEDS to be dealt with. Trump is the only president that has stood up to their BS in recent history. Clinton started their nuclear program and Bushbama rolled over and did absolutely nothing. The time for action is now.

sheikurbootie's picture

Trump's plan is to have the US leave SK, maybe reduce Japan force too.  We're broke and Trump is trying to cut cost formerly thought uncutable.

2_legs_bahhhhhd's picture

The MIC will never allow Trump to remove troops from anywhere, it's just bad business!!

What they want is SK and Japan to increase their defence spending from 1% of GDP to 30%


Normalcy Bias's picture

Why not tell SK and Japan that the US is pulling out, but offer to sell them (nearly) all of the weapons they wish to buy before that happens?

That way, the MIC gets massive profits and can move on to the next engineered shitshow.

Pokeys Pissed's picture

You can't "Police the World" when you're broke.  GTFO of Asia and let Asians deal with the little dictator.

smallblockchevy350's picture

Lol deal with him? Little fatboy is China's butt-puppet.

Mike in Tokyo Rogers's picture

Most Japanese and South Koreans would be perfectly happy to get the US troops out of their countries. Few entertain the illusion that Kim Jung Un is any more dangerous than any US president. North Korean weapons programs are a rational response to historical US actions and current saber rattling.

JLee2027's picture

That's a preposterous comment. You should flip your icon your head is up your ass!

TuPhat's picture

JLee you're out of focus again.  It was quite a good comment.

Parafuso's picture

And I thought you'd vanished .....



Herodotus's picture

Japan should militarily reoccupy the Korean pennisula and rule (as they did from 1910 to 1945) until such time as the Koreans are capable of ruling themselves.