Meanwhile Two More Hurricanes Form: Jose Right Behind Irma, Katia In The Gulf

Tyler Durden's picture

As previewed yesterday, moments ago the National Hurricane Center said that "quickly strenghtening Jose" which has been quietly following in Irma's foosteps, has become a hurricane.

Located about 1040 miles east of the Lesser Antilles, Jose is headed at 16 mph on a steady west-northwest track, steered by the same ridge that is helping to direct Irma.

On its current track, Jose would reach the northern Leeward Islands by Saturday, but the ridge is predicted to weaken enough by Saturday to allow Jose to arc just northeast of the islands. Conditions are favorable for Jose to strengthen into a hurricane by later Wednesday, and it could approach Category 3 strength by late in the week. About 25% of the European model ensemble members bring Jose into the northern Leeward Islands, but all of the GFS ensemble members keep Jose north of the islands.

The news means that there are now two major hurricanse barreling toward Florida in the Atlantic, as shown in the map below.

Meanwhile, Katia, which was christened as a Tropical Storm by NHC at 5 am EDT Wednesday, was also just upgraded to a Hurricane.

Located in the Bay of Campeche about 175 miles north of Veracruz, Mexico, Katia is embedded in a very moist environment with numerous showers and thunderstorms along and south of a frontal zone (see Figure 9), and the storm’s core has become gradually more organized. Wind shear will be dropping from about 10-15 knots to around 5-10 knots by Friday, which also supports development.

Models and the Euro and GFS ensembles are unanimous in drifting Katia for a couple of days before driving it southwestward into the Mexican coast this weekend. Extremely heavy rains of 10 – 20” are possible along parts of the northeast Mexican coast, especially in northern Veracruz, as Katia approaches and moves inland.

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FreeShitter's picture

The boys at HAARP have been busy lately.

svayambhu108's picture

They are already hurricanes they got so fast to Category 1, the waters are very warm,

I don't see how they see Irma downgrading with all that warm water out there,


TeamDepends's picture

President Camacho: Shit. I know shit's bad right now, with all that starving bullshit, and the dust storms, and we are running out of french fries and burrito coverings. But I got a solution.

South Carolina Representative # 1: That's what you said last time, dipshit!

South Carolina Representative # 2: Yeah, I got a solution, you're a dick! South Carolina, what's up!

svayambhu108's picture

US is moraly a swamp anyway looks like she's gonna be one litterally now.

TeamDepends's picture

And why is that?  Because we clung to the Creator God spoken of by the Founders in the Constitution, or abandoned Him?

ParkAveFlasher's picture

God doesn't get abandoned.  This is why He is called the Jealous One.  Says so in the Bible (Exodus 20 for an explicit statement of this).

Now the god you've heard about was a myth.  I will tell you about God, who pursues those He loves, and makes them an example for His Name's sake. 

That said, there have been thousands of catastrophic events in my lifetime, but only one of them could I slough off to "judgement", and it certainly wasn't a "natural disaster".  Why you die is far more significant than how. 


Slack Jack's picture

Irma Is Now The Strongest Atlantic Hurricane On Record; Record-Setting Wildfires in Los Angeles; Record temperatures; ya think it might be global warming?


So, why is the global rise in temperatures so worrisome?

For one thing, as temperatures rise good farmland will become desert (e.g., dust-bowl conditions will probably return to the American Midwest).

Another major problem is sea-level rise.

Have a look at

The U.S. Geological Survey people claim that;

The Greenland ice sheet melting will raise sea-level 6.55 meters (21.5 feet),
the West Antarctica ice sheet melting will raise sea-level 8.06 meters (26.4 feet),
the East Antarctica ice sheet melting will raise sea-level 64.8 meters (212.6 feet),
and all other ice melting will raise sea-level 0.91 meters (3 feet).

For a grand total of about 80 meters (263 feet).

So, what does an 80 meter (263 feet) rise in sea-level mean. Have a look at the following map of the world after an 80 meter rise. It means that over one billion people will have to be resettled to higher ground and that much of the most productive agricultural land will be under water. Fortunately, at current rates, the Greenland ice sheet will take over a thousand years to melt and the Antarctica ice sheet, much longer. However, the greater the temperature rise the faster the ice sheets will melt, bringing the problem much closer. Remember, the huge ice sheet that recently covered much of North America, almost completely melted in only 15,000 years (today, only the Greenland ice sheet, and some other small patches of it, remain). Since then (15,000 years ago), sea-levels have risen about 125 meters (410 feet), only 80 meters to go.

The ice sheets have been continuously melting for thousands of years. What is left of them today, is still melting, and will continue to melt. Human caused global warning will cause this remnant to melt significantly faster. This is a big, big, problem.

For HUGE detailed maps of the "World after the Melt" go to:

Global temperatures are increasing. And by quite a lot each year.

2016 is the hottest year on record for global temperatures.

This is 0.0380 degrees centigrade hotter than the previous record year which was 2015.

0.0380 is a large increase in just one year.

2015 was the hottest year (at that time) for global temperatures.

This was 0.1601 degrees hotter than the previous record year which was 2014.

0.1601 is an absolutely huge increase in just one year (at this rate temperatures would increase by 16 degrees in a century).

2014 was the hottest year (at that time) for global temperatures.

This was 0.0402 degrees hotter than the previous record year which was 2010.

The conspiracy to hide global warming data.

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) is given tax money to make global temperature records available to the public. However, certain people at NOAA continually sabotage this aspect of NOAA's mandate. For example, these people have (deliberately) sabotaged the web-page that delivers the temperature records.

Look for yourself:

Go to the page: scroll down to the The Global Anomalies and Index Data section and click the download button and see what happens. Well, you get the message:

"Not Found. The requested URL /monitoring-references/faq/anomalies-download was not found on this server."

I guess that the 2017 data must be truly horrible if they have to hide it away.

It turns out that this seems to be the case; NASA reports that:

July 2017 had the hottest average land temperatures on record.

The new July 2017 record was +1.20 degrees centigrade above the 20th century average (of the July data). The previous record average land temperature for July was just last year. It was +1.10 degrees above the 20th century average.

Did the media bother to tell you about this? No!

SilverRhino's picture

Dude, seriously just fuck off and DIE.  

Stop fucking being a spambot.

francis scott falseflag's picture


It's probably just a coincidence that the earth is having global warming

at the very same time that it's having PEAK POPULATION.


         I'm just a soul whose intentions are good

        Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood

G'night all

Buckaroo Banzai's picture

Is there anything more annoying than a WarmingTard?

TeamDepends's picture

A Warming Antifa Krugman fanboi?

knukles's picture

It Is The End of Days?
What more evidence is needed?

Especially by a bunch of gold bugs

JamesBond's picture

Didn,t we just have an eclipse?

knukles's picture

Amongst other "things"
One can very easily assign the NWO the Satanic role in this picture.  That's for sure.  They ain't innocent!

ElTerco's picture

"Is there anything more annoying than a WarmingTard?"

Yes, people who deny empirical evidence in the real world and instead latch onto their internal monologues.

The permafrost in Alaska is melting unlike ever before. If you know anyone who has lived in Alaska for thirty years or more, call them and ask them what they think. 10,000 year old ice sheets are dissolving. glaciers are receding.

This is all real stuff. How can you deny visible facts and still call yourself a rational Republican?

ScratInTheHat's picture

10,000 year old ice my ass! That ice has melted and refrozen time and time again. It has been much warmer in the past 10,000 years than it is today! Pack up the soapbox! We’re on to the scam! Your solution is robbing our wallets and killing people to save something that doesn’t need saving! Earth has taken care of itself for much longer than you can even contemplate!

ElTerco's picture

Yeah, and what about your friend in Alaska? Did you make that call? I'm serious, call them and see what they tell you. They will set your ass straight. Changes at the poles are amplified compared to what we see in the lower 48.

ScratInTheHat's picture

The Earth’s climate is not static and man is an FN gnat on this big assed ball! Then there is that big orange ball in the sky that contains 99.8% of the mass in this solar system. I suggest you take it up with the big flaming ball if you think it is too warm!

Luc X. Ifer's picture

Dude, so for you empirical evidence qualifies as proof as per scientific method framework, GFY.

Mr 9x19's picture

changes at poles... poleS... yea... do you know nobody lives in antartic ? it is rocked ground,

and to artic ice quantity, climate change won't affect sea level since archimede's law, the pressure of ice is same on water, any melting would not increase any fucking mm of water in the oceans.


but you cannot learn basic physics, and get zombified by MSM & tv shows + cancerous food eating the small amount of brain still working.


my 2 cts.

ElTerco's picture

That doesn't mean the sea ice is not melting. You're an adult. You know that ice melts as it warms.

Heywood Jablomi's picture

nobody is denying visible facts. you're just an idiot that doesn't see the argument. man-made climate change or just climate change--that's the issue not if its happening

ElTerco's picture

When did I say anything about man-made? There are a shitload of people I talk to that deny global warming exists, period. For instance, see Mr 9x19's post above.

J S Bach's picture

Here in the Great Lakes region, it is calm and peaceful.  There are crickets chirping... no wind... 69 degrees.

Just saying... maybe retirees should start migrating north and give up the sun, hurricanes, black widows and alligators for a 4-season clime of relative peace and security. No mudslides...  no earthquakes... no wildfires...  Sure, we get a foot of snow dumped on us every few years, but I wouldn't trade it for anything (except maybe Hawaii, which seems to be at the ideal geographical coordinates).

Mr 9x19's picture

don't go hawaii, recent years saw an increase of nigger attacks  on the golf tracks.

webmatex's picture


Yes, so you wrote something once using wordpad and learnt to copy/paste it to ZH message board.

It's like Brit Bob.

Its must be a bot, a zombie post.

Please ignore it this time folks as this spoils the comments every time.

Mr Hankey's picture

Joo buy- bull? Sounds legit.99% of everybody joo-god-poop.

gatorengineer's picture

Explain joos then....1 percent of the worlds pop controls 99 percent of its assets.

TeamDepends's picture

The Creator God spoken of by the Fouders is not necessarily the Christian God, you unwashed pinheads.  Ask yourself:  Did humans create the universe?  If no, then something much greater did.

J Jason Djfmam's picture

Maybe the universe created itself.

Prove it didn't.

TeamDepends's picture

Ah yes, the "Big Bang".  Where "something" (an unfathomably large explosion), was created from "nothing".  Hey, it's as plausible as Darwin's (Marx' cousin) ridiculous theory.

knukles's picture

Basic sicence says that's impoosible. 
Nothing becoming something.

So I asked a preeminent scientist to expalin how "that Big Bang" happened.
He told me it was a "qunatum disturbance or fluctuation" that caused it.
I pointed out that there can be no quantum disturbance if there is nothing.
I was asked to leave

To assume there is no God demands extreme speculation

TeamDepends's picture

If you are ever in the presence of Bill Nye/Science Guy, do not bring this up.  He will cut you.

knukles's picture

"Cut" me
I'd love to stand my ground with him.
A mechanical engineering degree from a community college and he's Mr Science.

I know when I'm being played.  :)

Peak Finance's picture

I thought the answer was that:

"it just always was"

That our universe expands, cools, contracts back into a singularity, then *boom* big bang occurs again and this keeps happening forever.


juangrande's picture

Our reality is more likely to be a computer program than any  all powerful being with petty human emotions. Most religious beliefs are just a massive psychological transference issue  brought on by fear laden neurosis.  

Damn, is that thunder I hear.....

gatorengineer's picture

Hard to ignore that there is a lot of devolution going on...

knukles's picture

If it did, then it by definition is a Higher Power.
The universe is comprised of quantum packets and consciousness.

Pure Evil's picture

You've been watching Slaughterhouse 5 much to often.

juangrande's picture

quantum packets OF consciousness

Shift For Brains's picture

I refer you to the thinking of the late, great Raymond Smullyan. Formal logician with significant original proofs, mathmatican, concert pianist, stage magician, writer of philosophic treatises, etc. He said that, logically, it is a draw. One can neither PROVE NOR DISPROVE the existence of God. It really is up to you.

So, sort of a mirror into which we peer. What do you see when you gaze there?

lil dirtball's picture

> What do you see when you gaze there?

The abyss. What else is there that's not just crap of this world?

knukles's picture

Ummmm ...  Separate the Temporal and Spiritual

justa minute's picture

globe earth is a theory that has never been proven and cant be proven because it doesnt exist. It comes from the sun worshipping cabalists to cause people to disengage from their minds i.e. telling people that what is always level is really curved. and it worked because most people are globists and if you tell them otherwise they call you crazy. globism is the one world religion, why is do you think everything is so distorted. God said do not worship the host of heaven but they did anyways and this is what it lead to.

Bill of Rights's picture

If only this were NY or DC....

MANvsMACHINE's picture

Shouldn't Jose be the hurricane heading toward Mexico?

You Only Live Twice's picture

That is precisely it. The waters are warmer at the equator, and getting hotter. The fisrt sign was great white sharks spotted way more up north than usual. This, is a second indicator. Welcome to the beginnings of climate change.

mayhem_korner's picture

Climate change?  Did you notice that Cat 5, > 175MPH Atlantic Hurricanes follow a roughly 10-14 year cycle, approximating that of sunspot activity?

1955 - Janet

1969 - Camille

1979-80 - David, Allen

1992 - Andrew

2004/05 - Ivan, Katrina-Rita-Wilma

2017 - Irma

Sure, there are a some exceptions (Mitch, Gilbert), but let's not get all crazy with the global warming "beginning"! 

And we are a long way from matching the trifecta of 2005.  Three consecutive Cat 5 Hurricanes in the gulf, including Wilma which was more intense than Irma has been thus far.