Breaking News of Saudi Crown Prince's "Secret" Visit To Israel Brings Embassy Scramble

Tyler Durden's picture

Clearly the war in Syria and the international push for regime change against Assad has created strange alliances in the Middle East over the past few years. Among the strangest bedfellows are the Israelis and Saudis. It's no secret that common cause in Syria of late has led the historic bitter enemies down a pragmatic path of unspoken cooperation as both seem to have placed the break up of the so-called "Shia crescent" as their primary policy goal in the region. But that's perhaps why few pundits seemed overly shocked when Israeli media late last week began reporting that a Saudi prince made a secret visit to Israel, in spite of the fact that the kingdom does not recognize the Jewish state, and the two sides do not have diplomatic relations.

Last Wednesday (9/6) Israel's state funded Kol Yisrael radio service made cryptic reference to the "secret" yet historic visit while withholding names and specifics. "An emir of the Saudi royal court visited the country secretly in recent days and discussed with senior Israeli officials the idea of advancing regional peace," the station reported. It added further that, "Both the Prime Minister's Office and the Foreign Ministry refused to comment on the issue."


Left: Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu, Right: Saudi Arabia's Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman

The visit is said to have occurred the same week Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu confirmed "unprecedented" relations with the Arab world. Netanyahu made the comments before members of the foreign ministry and said, "Things that are happening today between Israel and the Arab world are unprecedented. Cooperation on a wide range of issues are occurring behind the scenes, more than at any time in Israel’s history."

But on Sunday reports began to emerge that the unidentified Saudi royal in question is no less than Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman, which would indeed be shocking news:

On Sunday, the IUVM Online Arabic news outlet identified the Saudi official who reportedly visited Israel as Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman, the Defense Minister of Saudi Arabia and heir apparent to the throne.

 

The IUVM Online report cited a United Arab Emirates intelligence officer, who claimed that bin Salman was the member of the Saudi royal family who met with Israeli officials in last week’s secret meeting.

Western journalists also began on Sunday to report the dignitary as being Crown Prince Salman - something which could have huge geopolitical consequences for the region given that such a high level meeting would possibly take place at all.

The reports were immediately disputed and subject to disbelief and controversy. As bin Salman's name continued to circulate Sunday, the Saudi Embassy in Washington D.C. attempted to shut down news of the visit. A senior Saudi diplomatic official took to Twitter with a simple "Nope" in reference to the allegations.

Of course, if true such a dramatic move between the countries would signify a monumental shift in relations and outlook. On Sunday Israeli media was also broadly advancing bin Salman's name as the Saudi emir in question.


Multiple Israeli outlets on Sunday identified Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman as having met with senior Israeli officials early last week.

Though initial reports in Israeli media speculated that it could mean positive momentum on the Palestinian issue, it is unlikely that the future king of Saudi Arabia himself would suddenly pay a personal visit to Israel over an issue which has stalemated regional diplomacy for decades. It also doesn't appear that Israeli policy on settlements has undergone any significant on the ground change. If true, public knowledge of the visit will certainly result in embarrassment for both countries, especially on the Saudi domestic front.

The initial Israeli public radio report referenced the visit of "an emir of the Saudi royal court" on Wednesday while saying the trip took place "in recent days". As both Israel and Saudi Arabia have been so heavily invested in pursuing regime change in Syria, and at a time when other world powers seem to be backing off, it is inconceivable that Syria wasn't high on the agenda during the unprecedented visit.

The timing of the meeting also seems more than just coincidental in relation to last week's Israeli airstrike on a Syrian military facility, which took place in the middle of the night Wednesday (or more precisely Thursday morning at 3:00 am). As we reported at the time, Israel's brazen act of aggression was designed to provoke a response from Syria. As the Syrian government stands poised to be victorious in the more than 6-year long conflict while rapidly regaining more and more territory, Israel seems desperate to keep the war going and is still making last ditch efforts to draw external powers deeper into Syria, though framing its aggression as "humanitarian".

Could the two powers have been engaged in face to face talks over renewed efforts at ramping up the stalled war for regime change in Syria? After all, Israel's declarations of its willingness to do anything to prevent an enduring Iranian presence in Syria have reached a new erratic pitch of late. During Netanyahu's recent contentious summit with Vladimir Putin in Sochi, the Israeli leader reportedly warned Putin that Israel would not tolerate an enlarged and stronger Shia sphere of influence along Israel's border. Yet the current trajectory of the war in Syria ensures just that, especially after the US-Russia brokered Astana agreement seemed to give tacit approval of Iranian troop presence in parts of Syria, while placing Russia in the driver's seat. It was further revealed that a senior Israeli official accompanying Netanyahu on the trip threatened to assassinate Syrian President Assad by bombing his palace in Damascus, while further adding that Israel will seek to derail the Astana de-escalation deal.

As for Saudi Arabia, while its deep embroilment in inter-GCC diplomatic war with Qatar seems to have tempered what used to be routine calls for Assad's departure, it must be remembered that the current unraveling of the GCC is ultimately benefiting IranIt is entirely possible that the Iran issue alone might drive the kingdom into direct engagement with Israel no matter the risks and political embarrassment (for example, news of the visit hands Iran a propaganda victory and likely more influence on the so-called Arab street, even perhaps within Saudi's own domestic population).

Saudi Arabia could also be worried about future blowback from its well-documented actions in Syria. A WikiLeaks cable released in 2015 as part of the "Saudi Leaks" trove of internal leaked Saudi diplomatic memos speaks to just this scenario. Though the memo's exact date is unknown, it was drafted sometime in early 2012 based on internal references in the Arabic text. It spells out the kingdom's internal long term rationale on Syria: that should the Syrian regime "be able to pass through its current crisis in any shape or form" then increased "danger for the Kingdom" means Saudi Arabia must "seek by all means available and all possible ways to overthrow the current regime in Syria." A full translation of the key passage reads as follows:

"In what pertains to the Syrian crisis, the Kingdom is resolute in its position and there is no longer any room to back down. The fact must be stressed that in the case where the Syrian regime is able to pass through its current crisis in any shape or form, the primary goal that it will pursue is taking revenge on the countries that stood against it, with the Kingdom and some of the countries of the Gulf coming at the top of the list. If we take into account the extent of this regime’s brutality and viciousness and its lack of hesitancy to resort to any means to realize its aims, then the situation will reach a high degree of danger for the Kingdom, which must seek by all means available and all possible ways to overthrow the current regime in Syria."

Whether or not it was in fact Crown Prince Salman that himself went to Israel, the timing of the high level delegation's visit is simply impossible to ignore. Simply put, Syria was without a doubt discussed... and shortly thereafter Syria was bombed. Such direct and closer relations among perennial enemies could be a sign of more escalation and desperate measures to come in the region. This is certainly not - as Israeli media reported - a sign of regional peace.

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quadraspleen's picture

They're both arch sponsors of terrorism, so it's not that odd. The Saudi are Ashkenazim as well. Expansion of Israel won't be possible without the cooperation, or destruction of, KSA. Birds of a feather

anarchitect's picture

Yes, the kind of peace that comes from scorched earth.

localsavage's picture

You mean that the two countries in the Middle East who always get what they want work together....duh

The Alarmist's picture

Talk about a fricken Axis of Evil!

WTFRLY's picture

Fuckin Joominati rats converging

svayambhu108's picture

Their offspring in Syria, Daesh is in trouble, as good parents they need to join to help

weburke's picture

lots of interesting details,  to secret to discuss I suppose, cant get all your news from regular sources including here, if you want to watch the elite and their treachery

Bes's picture

are we sure trump jr didn't go too?

we know how daddy loves these two countries...

hahaha.    #maga

Swampster's picture

I'LL STAND WITH SYRIA AGAINST THE jew WORLD ORDER....

Troll Magnet's picture

Hey, they're observing 9/11 just like us! Or are they celebrating 9/11?

JimmyJones's picture

Israel and the House of Saud have been working together for a long time now.  The US intellegence agencies refer to them as the "Sisters".

Shitonya Serfs's picture

They're getting together to laugh at how their 2001 plans completely exceeded what they thought the results would be.

Guessing the Bushs were/are there too.

Then, yes, they will be dancing together....and probably planning more exciting things to happen this year.

knukles's picture

There's always been a deep US/Israel/Saudi alliance behind the scenes.

Post-Truth Society's picture

Filthy Muslim Trump was probably in on the conference call.  Ivanka and Kushner dialed the number for him.

MEFOBILLS's picture

Filthy Muslim Trump

 

That is some low IQ shit there.  Trump is not a Muslim, or Muslim lover....jeez.  

MillionDollarButter's picture

Ok, pinned all day, and no details, just "They met, now speculate."

What is this?  Floating a hidden trial balloon?

Giant Meteor's picture

Symbolism, 9/11 anniversary etc. 

#winning!

beemasters's picture

Saudi-Israel alliance is another conspiracy theory proven as fact. The US, of course is still their threesome partner.

SeuMadruga's picture

Those ménages are always dirty...

earleflorida's picture

http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2017/09/10/robert-mueller-obstruct-congresss-911-probe/       

Mueller! yes, the same guy going after Trump for obstruction of justice,.. via Russia--- when, Zionist Israel and the American Zionist Lobby in concert with the KSA having influenced our countries 'ALL' foreign policy!?!

since the 1950s

Giant Meteor's picture

"Today, Graham believes that Mueller was acting under orders from the White House.”

"Think about this for a moment: the man now in charge of investigating the President of these United States for “collusion” with Russia and possible “obstruction of justice” himself obstructed a congressional investigation into the 9/11 terrorist attacks. Was Mueller, possibly on orders from President George W. Bush, colluding with the Saudis to cover up their role?"

Sounds about right ..

AllBentOutOfShape's picture

Trump is a Saudi lover and a Zionist lover... which is worse.

Post-Truth Society's picture

Yes, he is.

Why was his first official trip to Saudi Arabia?  Of all the countries in the world, why visit the home of Islam first ??

The east side pf Trump tower in New York faces directly toward Mecca, to within 0.1 degrees.  That's not a coincidence.  Trump's got a secret prayer room in those top floors.  Why wasn't Trump Tower taken down on 9/11?

Trump is a Muslim, Muslim, filthy-fucking-Muslim, and a jew daughter to boot.  Wake up.

 

Stef1304's picture

ISIS = with Israeli Secret Intelligence SUPPORT
Indeed a proven assistance & cooperation.

 

wildbad's picture

ISIS has also given israell and saudi both a wide berth.

except to cash their checks.

Crazy Or Not's picture

...Observing "celebrating" 9/11
I remember this gem:
" Of course the order still stands"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjR0gGXV-04

Paul Kersey's picture

Did Bibi, like our Presidents, bow and scrape and kiss the Prince's ring, or did the Prince kiss Bibi's ring. Who is the master, and who is the servant?

BLOTTO's picture

Did you hear about Bibi's son Yair antisemitic post in social media?.
.
Controlled by Aliens n all.

Vegas is Definitely Sin City's picture

Don't you mean Jared Kushner?

tdag's picture

"secret meeting revealed" by Israeli state run radio? I take that "news" with a hefty dose of cyncism. Not that I doubt the meeting took place, just that it was never meant to be a secret.

SoilMyselfRotten's picture

We have to gang bang this chick to teach her about virginity

Troy Ounce's picture

 

 

And what a perfect date today on 9/11

Brothers in arms

 

Rusty Shorts's picture

Well the father of the "jews" was an Iraqi , was he not?  Abram walked out of the land of his father Ur , which was located in Iraq.  What exactly is a jew?  we had better get all of our ducks in a row before it is too late , believe me.  You won't hear this kind of talk in church. The churches have been bought off and are silent. Chrisitan zionism comes from that scumbag Scofield and his foolish mentor, Darby. Most Christians don't even know anything about what zionism really means and just who it is that called themselves neocons. It is a war for the minds of the American people. Right now it is a war of words here , except even though our armies are fighting these jewish wars for Israel, nevertheless it is a war of words here but one day it will be much more than that. That day is coming soon. These people will never let go and will never give up. They have too much at stake now. They are close, closer than any generation of these misfits have ever been and they taste victory for it is so close now for them. They rolled for all the money on 911 and they put all of the chips on red. There is no turning back now. As the former head of the US Army war college , Alan Sobrosky, a jew himself , has stated, they went for broke and if the American people ever find out who actually did 911, there will be hell to pay and since he said some very bad things, I am not going to go there right now. But you get the picture, I hope.

land_of_the_few's picture

They can say "Shia Crescent" if they like, but the fact is the Syrian army is majority Sunni, just not Wahhabi-headchopper-Sunni

giovanni_f's picture

It is coming unglued. These are signs of inceasing instability, escalation, a sustained, irreversible loss of control on all sides. An Arab terror prince visits his peer in Israel - an absolute tabu so far as it was feared that any display of cooperation or friedship (in public) with leaders of the Jewish state would invariably alienate the hundreds of millions of Muslims who haven been able to somehow be tranquilized by token activities of the house of Saud such as the distribution of Korans all over the planet with the equally corrupt media in the Arab world significantly contributing to the success of this decade-long psy-op.

But I am confident our Covfefe-in-chief is in full control of the situation.

The Alarmist's picture

No, but the Generals are on top of it ... they think.

Uncle Floyd's picture

How quaint He uses the pc Arab word for the islamic nazis. Arabs kill each other That is what they do The issue is the iranian ghoullah theonazis on the border. Only a fucking moron thinks that Israel sponsors the jerk-off jihadis.

So many old school nazis in this cesspool

strannick's picture

Their forbidden longtime secret love..finally revealed

FatTony7915726's picture

Hous of Saud = crypto-jewry!

earleflorida's picture

' when sir kissinger first sat down and 'broke bread' with the 'DONALD',...i siad to myself, 'WTF'!

the Donald belongs to the Zionist, and that means Zionist Israel!

mind you the vast difference between peaceful`loving jewish (Judaism) people and the minority of a dark-chasm of HATE, perpetuated by Zionist (not true Jews via history) Israel and Zionist Lobby America?

if a peaceful, loving, jew speaks out against the Likud`Crazy PM Netanyahu'[Zionist] in israel, he/she is labelled as fringe-borderline ?anti-semite subjected to[questionable alliegence]?... thus being labelled [and] targeted for reprecussion via re`education/[re]introdoctrination!

Netanyahu is a lonely PM today and the Liberal Party is fed-up with this rabid`zionist psychotic/schizophrenic/pschopath!!!

The Israel people are wising up to the fact today, that 'Zionism is the Enemy of Judaism' !

the 'Knesset' is fed up!!!

the jewish people are sick of WAR!!!

svayambhu108's picture

the only peace that can come out of the is piece of shit.

gaoptimize's picture

I'm sure the Simulation Interoperability Standards Org would not appreciate your comment.

Joe Davola's picture

"Heir apparent" - he ain't king until he's king.

On a marginally related side note - next year's Giro d'Italia is slated to have it's grand depart in Israel.  Bahrain, UAE and a couple of other ME countries who don't recognize Israel now sponsor world tour cycling teams.  It will be interesting to see how many of those teams start the race.