Breaking News of Saudi Crown Prince's "Secret" Visit To Israel Brings Embassy Scramble

Tyler Durden's picture

Clearly the war in Syria and the international push for regime change against Assad has created strange alliances in the Middle East over the past few years. Among the strangest bedfellows are the Israelis and Saudis. It's no secret that common cause in Syria of late has led the historic bitter enemies down a pragmatic path of unspoken cooperation as both seem to have placed the break up of the so-called "Shia crescent" as their primary policy goal in the region. But that's perhaps why few pundits seemed overly shocked when Israeli media late last week began reporting that a Saudi prince made a secret visit to Israel, in spite of the fact that the kingdom does not recognize the Jewish state, and the two sides do not have diplomatic relations.

Last Wednesday (9/6) Israel's state funded Kol Yisrael radio service made cryptic reference to the "secret" yet historic visit while withholding names and specifics. "An emir of the Saudi royal court visited the country secretly in recent days and discussed with senior Israeli officials the idea of advancing regional peace," the station reported. It added further that, "Both the Prime Minister's Office and the Foreign Ministry refused to comment on the issue."


Left: Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu, Right: Saudi Arabia's Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman

The visit is said to have occurred the same week Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu confirmed "unprecedented" relations with the Arab world. Netanyahu made the comments before members of the foreign ministry and said, "Things that are happening today between Israel and the Arab world are unprecedented. Cooperation on a wide range of issues are occurring behind the scenes, more than at any time in Israel’s history."

But on Sunday reports began to emerge that the unidentified Saudi royal in question is no less than Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman, which would indeed be shocking news:

On Sunday, the IUVM Online Arabic news outlet identified the Saudi official who reportedly visited Israel as Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman, the Defense Minister of Saudi Arabia and heir apparent to the throne.

 

The IUVM Online report cited a United Arab Emirates intelligence officer, who claimed that bin Salman was the member of the Saudi royal family who met with Israeli officials in last week’s secret meeting.

Western journalists also began on Sunday to report the dignitary as being Crown Prince Salman - something which could have huge geopolitical consequences for the region given that such a high level meeting would possibly take place at all.

The reports were immediately disputed and subject to disbelief and controversy. As bin Salman's name continued to circulate Sunday, the Saudi Embassy in Washington D.C. attempted to shut down news of the visit. A senior Saudi diplomatic official took to Twitter with a simple "Nope" in reference to the allegations.

Of course, if true such a dramatic move between the countries would signify a monumental shift in relations and outlook. On Sunday Israeli media was also broadly advancing bin Salman's name as the Saudi emir in question.


Multiple Israeli outlets on Sunday identified Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman as having met with senior Israeli officials early last week.

Though initial reports in Israeli media speculated that it could mean positive momentum on the Palestinian issue, it is unlikely that the future king of Saudi Arabia himself would suddenly pay a personal visit to Israel over an issue which has stalemated regional diplomacy for decades. It also doesn't appear that Israeli policy on settlements has undergone any significant on the ground change. If true, public knowledge of the visit will certainly result in embarrassment for both countries, especially on the Saudi domestic front.

The initial Israeli public radio report referenced the visit of "an emir of the Saudi royal court" on Wednesday while saying the trip took place "in recent days". As both Israel and Saudi Arabia have been so heavily invested in pursuing regime change in Syria, and at a time when other world powers seem to be backing off, it is inconceivable that Syria wasn't high on the agenda during the unprecedented visit.

The timing of the meeting also seems more than just coincidental in relation to last week's Israeli airstrike on a Syrian military facility, which took place in the middle of the night Wednesday (or more precisely Thursday morning at 3:00 am). As we reported at the time, Israel's brazen act of aggression was designed to provoke a response from Syria. As the Syrian government stands poised to be victorious in the more than 6-year long conflict while rapidly regaining more and more territory, Israel seems desperate to keep the war going and is still making last ditch efforts to draw external powers deeper into Syria, though framing its aggression as "humanitarian".

Could the two powers have been engaged in face to face talks over renewed efforts at ramping up the stalled war for regime change in Syria? After all, Israel's declarations of its willingness to do anything to prevent an enduring Iranian presence in Syria have reached a new erratic pitch of late. During Netanyahu's recent contentious summit with Vladimir Putin in Sochi, the Israeli leader reportedly warned Putin that Israel would not tolerate an enlarged and stronger Shia sphere of influence along Israel's border. Yet the current trajectory of the war in Syria ensures just that, especially after the US-Russia brokered Astana agreement seemed to give tacit approval of Iranian troop presence in parts of Syria, while placing Russia in the driver's seat. It was further revealed that a senior Israeli official accompanying Netanyahu on the trip threatened to assassinate Syrian President Assad by bombing his palace in Damascus, while further adding that Israel will seek to derail the Astana de-escalation deal.

As for Saudi Arabia, while its deep embroilment in inter-GCC diplomatic war with Qatar seems to have tempered what used to be routine calls for Assad's departure, it must be remembered that the current unraveling of the GCC is ultimately benefiting IranIt is entirely possible that the Iran issue alone might drive the kingdom into direct engagement with Israel no matter the risks and political embarrassment (for example, news of the visit hands Iran a propaganda victory and likely more influence on the so-called Arab street, even perhaps within Saudi's own domestic population).

Saudi Arabia could also be worried about future blowback from its well-documented actions in Syria. A WikiLeaks cable released in 2015 as part of the "Saudi Leaks" trove of internal leaked Saudi diplomatic memos speaks to just this scenario. Though the memo's exact date is unknown, it was drafted sometime in early 2012 based on internal references in the Arabic text. It spells out the kingdom's internal long term rationale on Syria: that should the Syrian regime "be able to pass through its current crisis in any shape or form" then increased "danger for the Kingdom" means Saudi Arabia must "seek by all means available and all possible ways to overthrow the current regime in Syria." A full translation of the key passage reads as follows:

"In what pertains to the Syrian crisis, the Kingdom is resolute in its position and there is no longer any room to back down. The fact must be stressed that in the case where the Syrian regime is able to pass through its current crisis in any shape or form, the primary goal that it will pursue is taking revenge on the countries that stood against it, with the Kingdom and some of the countries of the Gulf coming at the top of the list. If we take into account the extent of this regime’s brutality and viciousness and its lack of hesitancy to resort to any means to realize its aims, then the situation will reach a high degree of danger for the Kingdom, which must seek by all means available and all possible ways to overthrow the current regime in Syria."

Whether or not it was in fact Crown Prince Salman that himself went to Israel, the timing of the high level delegation's visit is simply impossible to ignore. Simply put, Syria was without a doubt discussed... and shortly thereafter Syria was bombed. Such direct and closer relations among perennial enemies could be a sign of more escalation and desperate measures to come in the region. This is certainly not - as Israeli media reported - a sign of regional peace.

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beijing expat's picture

Probably the Saudis are looking for a few pointers on how to slaughter villagers from the air which is an Israeli speciality.

Don't think they are looking for tips on ground invasions though as the Saudis are taking a worse shit kicking in Yemen than Israel took in Lebanon.

Don't think either is ready to grapple with battle hardened Syrian troops right now.

It is worth noting that the Saudis have kindly offered to protect Iraq from Iran, but since the Iraqis know the Saudis are behind all their woes, I think this was said only to impress the Washington security establishment, a gaggle of such total fucking imbeciles, there is no historical equivalent to which to compare them.

Anyway, everyone in the ME hates the Saudis and Hates Israel.

This visit is an act of desperation as American ME imperial policy collapses in the face of their rout in Syria. Obama Rice and Carter and Clinton fucked it up so badly. It's really quite incredible.

ft65's picture

The House of Saud and the extended family know exactly who control the purse strings.

Arab culture quarrel with and consider neighbouring Arabs clans as greater enemy than those far away. This is what T. E. Lawrence Seven Pillars of Wisdom is about. Sucker the towel-heads into the old trick of "You are my enemy's enemy therefore you are my friend. One of the oldest tricks in the book, which works on Arabs EVERY TIME. 

CRM114's picture

It is not a trick if it is true, which it is in this case.

Games Without Frontiers's picture

The Goyim hava defeated ISIS! Oi vey! What do we do next?

gregga777's picture

"To ravage, to slaughter, to usurp under false titles, they call empire; and where they make a desert, they call it peace." —Tacitus

Bastiat's picture

There's a reason classics aren't taught.  . .

ebear's picture

Ozymandias

I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert... near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed:

And on the pedestal these words appear:
'My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!'
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.

Percy Shelley, 1818

smacker's picture

Article:

  • "Clearly the war in Syria and the international push for regime change against Assad has created strange alliances in the Middle East over the past few years. Among the strangest bedfellows are the Israelis and Saudis. It's no secret that common cause in Syria of late has led the historic bitter enemies down a pragmatic path of unspoken cooperation as both seem to have placed the break up of the so-called "Shia crescent"as their primary policy goal in the region. But that's perhaps why few pundits seemed overly shocked when Israeli media late last week began reporting thata Saudi prince made a secret visit to Israel, in spite of the fact that the kingdom does not recognize the Jewish state, and the two sides do not have diplomatic relations."

I think this is an extremely distorted representation of the relationship that exists between Israel and (the savage animal kingdom of) Saudi Arabia.

There is plenty of information available on the Internet clearly indicating (if not proving conclusively) that the Saudi "royal" family are of jewish origin.

Perhaps the best way to see them both is age-old cousins who went down different roads long long ago, but who nevertheless recognise their common historical roots. That is why - despite not formally having diplomatic relations - they rarely if ever have a cross word and they co-operate on a number of things in the M/E as we see in Syria etc.

If Saudi does not recognise Israel then why has it never spoken out about it or taken action to eliminate it? It seems to have no problem bombing the blitzes out of Yemen to destroy civilians and schools etc.

I rather think these two countries have an unwritten/unspoken pact to share out the M/E between them once the opposition has been wiped out.

 

falconflight's picture

The Jewish Kingdom of Arabia was the predominate power until Mohammed slayed them, beginnning in Mecca and Medina.  Occupation needs to be overthrown and the land returned to its rightful, historical owners, Israel.  ;0

nevertheless's picture

Typical response by the Zionist filth, when you can't refute, ignore...same old game, but the truth is getting harder to ignore.

 

 

falconflight's picture

Why do I need to refute a maladroit arguing the finer points of intellectual scat?

hestroy's picture

OK, ok, my kike friend. Now go to steal something.

falconflight's picture

Go back to cleaning those Kosher toilets, otherwise you'll get no table scraps from the Human's Table.  :)

SillyWabbits's picture

So evolution is anti-Semitic.

Do we return the earth to 14 billion years ago because that is how things were back then?

What it the G-d of nothing claimed the land in the religion of nothingness?

PrivetHedge's picture

Both the original (real) jews and the arabs are semites,

smacker's picture

If that were true then Israel & Saudi would have hostile relations don't you think? But they don't as I already said. They actually operate together, mostly on acts of terror: 9/11 and now Syria etc.

MENA used to be home to tribes of nomads who were Semitic peoples. When it became fahionable to adopt a religion, some of them adopted Islam, others adopted Judaism but they continued to live and trade together. The jews were known as Sephardic jews. But that variety of jew only accounts for about 10% of modern day jews in the world, the rest are mainly Ashkenazis who originated elsewhere in Khazaria. They are not Sephardic and not Semitic but IME you won't get any of them to admit that because it undermines their false claim for the land currently known as Israel.

etc etc

 

falconflight's picture

You'd think that those Jews were claiming half the planet.  No they simply are living within an area the size of Dallas-Fort Worth metro.  

Panic Mode's picture

"We are not paying the 9/11 damage - bite me."

ankhfnkhonsu's picture

It must ne another world-dominating "Zionist" conspiracy to stop the belligerent Iranian ghoullah terror regime from adding all of Syria to the key chain. That would be a globalist imperialist Jewish (Oh sorry I meant to say "Zionist") plot against the inherent peacefulness of the Iranian ("We promise we are nice and we will not use our nukes") theonazis & their shiite mercenaries in Syria Lebanon & Iraq

nevertheless's picture

"Zionist conspiracy", you act like that is not a fact, leave it to the tribe to try and tell you the sky is not blue, you fuckers lie as easily as breath. 

 

Israel backed ISIS, and started the conflict in Syria, and yet you still find a way to blame Iran, unbelievable. 

 

I just wish the Zionist cancer would leave America, and deal with the consequences of their evil alone...

falconflight's picture

They all look alike to me, those Askenazi...

http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/WATCH-LIVE-International-counter-terror...

Boder Police officers secure the area around Jerusalem’s Damascus Gate after the terrorist attack on Friday evening, which killed St.-Sgt.-Maj. Hadas Malka. (photo credit:AMMAR AWAD / REUTERS)

beijing expat's picture

Any truth to the rumors that the Saudi royal family are in fact Jews installed by the British foreign office back in the olden times? Everyone in the ME seems to think so.

PrivetHedge's picture

Ibn Saud was a zionist too.

But zionist is just a label, they are all devils.

scatha's picture

Now Bin Salman will have to behead himself for visiting Israel as Saudi law requires.

Oops he is the law, a king of desert thieves and murderers, a dear friend of Trump and RepDem gang and their Jewish handlers.

nevertheless's picture

1000++++ right on the mark, a truth every American should understand, and the truth that their media, entertainment and government does not want US to know. 

aqualech's picture

"the idea of advancing regional peace

 

...calling George Orwell...

 

More like discussing what sort of false flag can be arranged and then blamed on Assad in order to get the war ramped up again.

PrivetHedge's picture

Oh they want peace alright. Only after they've murdered everyone else though..

Secret Weapon's picture

Saudi Prince was probably making an application for asylum.  That throne is getting pretty wobbly.

koan's picture

Today is 9/11, remember what the Saudis did.

PrivetHedge's picture

Yes, they colluded with the CIA and mossad to take down WTC1, 2 and 7.

koan's picture

I agree there were US factions involved, but best not to generalize the entire CIA.

PrivetHedge's picture

I'm sure not the entire CIA was invloved, but the rest have sat back for 16 years ignoring the murder of 3000 americans.

Every intelligence officer who colludes with the cover up is an accessory and every day they do this is a crime.

Lucky Leprachaun's picture

Exactly. THe Saudis provided the funding and patsies but the real work was done by Mossad and Neocon traitors in the American government and intelligenc services.

Frankly Speaking's picture

University  of Alaska Fairbanks report on WTC7 just released that NIST report false.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OB2gpdYNfsw

Arrest Hillary's picture

Mohammad never visited Israel .... except for his dream where he flew over on his magic horse .... will the crown prince pay a courtesy visit to Abu Abas at the Temple Mount .... prolly not .... no respect for the Paleostonians ? LOL

Martian Moon's picture

Paleostonians, lol

I'm going to steal that if you don't mind

Usura's picture

Please don't confuse Paleostonians with Paleostinians.  Both of these peoples are very difference from the Pale Estonians.

historian40's picture

They're not strange bedfellows, as both "nations" were created by the same global zionists.  They are both ran by the same antichrists, both are frauds.

Pharisaism(judaism) and islam are both inventions of the same minds.  Mohammad was an illiterate raised among jews, mentored by a rabbi.

PrivetHedge's picture

"Among the strangest bedfellows are the Israelis and Saudis"

 

These countries were created together as a pair and will always act as a single country.

falconflight's picture

Really?  The Saud Family were given the keys on what date?

falconflight's picture

It was a factual and serious question, so?  

falconflight's picture

I was referring to the time line.

Herd Redirection Committee's picture

House of Saud are cryptos.  They worship the black cube, same as the Kabbalists in Israel.

taketheredpill's picture

 

 

When they mentioned "timing" my first thought was 9/11.  I assume that will be ignored my the media.

 

Joe A's picture

Regional peace is an euphemism for "moar war".