Breaking News of Saudi Crown Prince's "Secret" Visit To Israel Brings Embassy Scramble

Tyler Durden's picture

Clearly the war in Syria and the international push for regime change against Assad has created strange alliances in the Middle East over the past few years. Among the strangest bedfellows are the Israelis and Saudis. It's no secret that common cause in Syria of late has led the historic bitter enemies down a pragmatic path of unspoken cooperation as both seem to have placed the break up of the so-called "Shia crescent" as their primary policy goal in the region. But that's perhaps why few pundits seemed overly shocked when Israeli media late last week began reporting that a Saudi prince made a secret visit to Israel, in spite of the fact that the kingdom does not recognize the Jewish state, and the two sides do not have diplomatic relations.

Last Wednesday (9/6) Israel's state funded Kol Yisrael radio service made cryptic reference to the "secret" yet historic visit while withholding names and specifics. "An emir of the Saudi royal court visited the country secretly in recent days and discussed with senior Israeli officials the idea of advancing regional peace," the station reported. It added further that, "Both the Prime Minister's Office and the Foreign Ministry refused to comment on the issue."


Left: Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu, Right: Saudi Arabia's Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman

The visit is said to have occurred the same week Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu confirmed "unprecedented" relations with the Arab world. Netanyahu made the comments before members of the foreign ministry and said, "Things that are happening today between Israel and the Arab world are unprecedented. Cooperation on a wide range of issues are occurring behind the scenes, more than at any time in Israel’s history."

But on Sunday reports began to emerge that the unidentified Saudi royal in question is no less than Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman, which would indeed be shocking news:

On Sunday, the IUVM Online Arabic news outlet identified the Saudi official who reportedly visited Israel as Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman, the Defense Minister of Saudi Arabia and heir apparent to the throne.

 

The IUVM Online report cited a United Arab Emirates intelligence officer, who claimed that bin Salman was the member of the Saudi royal family who met with Israeli officials in last week’s secret meeting.

Western journalists also began on Sunday to report the dignitary as being Crown Prince Salman - something which could have huge geopolitical consequences for the region given that such a high level meeting would possibly take place at all.

The reports were immediately disputed and subject to disbelief and controversy. As bin Salman's name continued to circulate Sunday, the Saudi Embassy in Washington D.C. attempted to shut down news of the visit. A senior Saudi diplomatic official took to Twitter with a simple "Nope" in reference to the allegations.

Of course, if true such a dramatic move between the countries would signify a monumental shift in relations and outlook. On Sunday Israeli media was also broadly advancing bin Salman's name as the Saudi emir in question.


Multiple Israeli outlets on Sunday identified Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman as having met with senior Israeli officials early last week.

Though initial reports in Israeli media speculated that it could mean positive momentum on the Palestinian issue, it is unlikely that the future king of Saudi Arabia himself would suddenly pay a personal visit to Israel over an issue which has stalemated regional diplomacy for decades. It also doesn't appear that Israeli policy on settlements has undergone any significant on the ground change. If true, public knowledge of the visit will certainly result in embarrassment for both countries, especially on the Saudi domestic front.

The initial Israeli public radio report referenced the visit of "an emir of the Saudi royal court" on Wednesday while saying the trip took place "in recent days". As both Israel and Saudi Arabia have been so heavily invested in pursuing regime change in Syria, and at a time when other world powers seem to be backing off, it is inconceivable that Syria wasn't high on the agenda during the unprecedented visit.

The timing of the meeting also seems more than just coincidental in relation to last week's Israeli airstrike on a Syrian military facility, which took place in the middle of the night Wednesday (or more precisely Thursday morning at 3:00 am). As we reported at the time, Israel's brazen act of aggression was designed to provoke a response from Syria. As the Syrian government stands poised to be victorious in the more than 6-year long conflict while rapidly regaining more and more territory, Israel seems desperate to keep the war going and is still making last ditch efforts to draw external powers deeper into Syria, though framing its aggression as "humanitarian".

Could the two powers have been engaged in face to face talks over renewed efforts at ramping up the stalled war for regime change in Syria? After all, Israel's declarations of its willingness to do anything to prevent an enduring Iranian presence in Syria have reached a new erratic pitch of late. During Netanyahu's recent contentious summit with Vladimir Putin in Sochi, the Israeli leader reportedly warned Putin that Israel would not tolerate an enlarged and stronger Shia sphere of influence along Israel's border. Yet the current trajectory of the war in Syria ensures just that, especially after the US-Russia brokered Astana agreement seemed to give tacit approval of Iranian troop presence in parts of Syria, while placing Russia in the driver's seat. It was further revealed that a senior Israeli official accompanying Netanyahu on the trip threatened to assassinate Syrian President Assad by bombing his palace in Damascus, while further adding that Israel will seek to derail the Astana de-escalation deal.

As for Saudi Arabia, while its deep embroilment in inter-GCC diplomatic war with Qatar seems to have tempered what used to be routine calls for Assad's departure, it must be remembered that the current unraveling of the GCC is ultimately benefiting IranIt is entirely possible that the Iran issue alone might drive the kingdom into direct engagement with Israel no matter the risks and political embarrassment (for example, news of the visit hands Iran a propaganda victory and likely more influence on the so-called Arab street, even perhaps within Saudi's own domestic population).

Saudi Arabia could also be worried about future blowback from its well-documented actions in Syria. A WikiLeaks cable released in 2015 as part of the "Saudi Leaks" trove of internal leaked Saudi diplomatic memos speaks to just this scenario. Though the memo's exact date is unknown, it was drafted sometime in early 2012 based on internal references in the Arabic text. It spells out the kingdom's internal long term rationale on Syria: that should the Syrian regime "be able to pass through its current crisis in any shape or form" then increased "danger for the Kingdom" means Saudi Arabia must "seek by all means available and all possible ways to overthrow the current regime in Syria." A full translation of the key passage reads as follows:

"In what pertains to the Syrian crisis, the Kingdom is resolute in its position and there is no longer any room to back down. The fact must be stressed that in the case where the Syrian regime is able to pass through its current crisis in any shape or form, the primary goal that it will pursue is taking revenge on the countries that stood against it, with the Kingdom and some of the countries of the Gulf coming at the top of the list. If we take into account the extent of this regime’s brutality and viciousness and its lack of hesitancy to resort to any means to realize its aims, then the situation will reach a high degree of danger for the Kingdom, which must seek by all means available and all possible ways to overthrow the current regime in Syria."

Whether or not it was in fact Crown Prince Salman that himself went to Israel, the timing of the high level delegation's visit is simply impossible to ignore. Simply put, Syria was without a doubt discussed... and shortly thereafter Syria was bombed. Such direct and closer relations among perennial enemies could be a sign of more escalation and desperate measures to come in the region. This is certainly not - as Israeli media reported - a sign of regional peace.

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blahzay's picture

You have aptly named yourself, cretin.

FredFlintstone's picture

When the subject of "timing" was mentioned, I was thinking of the 9/11 anniversary. Didn't I hear somewhere that these two countries were the architects of that?

east of eden's picture

And the vipers come out to dance and sing - oom-baba-buma-lacka. Kaboom.

I wonder which will be the one to go under first, Israehell or Sadistic Arabia?

Perhaps the American's have some stupid plan to let the Israeli army take over the weapons that have been 'seeded' into Saudi Arabia, for 'Sunni' attack on Iran. Lord knows, the Saudi's don't know how to use them, but one thing is for sure. Power drunk psychopaths never make good friends. Remember that.

Just another twist of the yellow brick road, that leads, invetiabley, to Langley, VA., TelAviv and of course, London.

Your majesty. I think your nickers are dragging on the floor, dear.

Wahooo's picture

Gay princes in dresses. They look silly to me, perhaps ravishing to some.

ebear's picture

Hard to take seriously anyone who wears a table cloth on their head.

nevertheless's picture

When Obama was looking like he had a chance to win in 2008, a PRIVATE meeting was set up with the ruling Zionists to see if he would bow low enough to them, he could. When news of the meeting leaked out, the cover story was they wanted to make sure he supported Israel, he did more than support them...

 

Obama was a coward and an easy mark for our Jewish masters. The Zionist media gave Obama cover, calling him "liberal" no matter what fascist, Marxist, globalist action he took.

 

Fast forward to 2016, now we get another groomed Zionist traitor, Trump, who is not a coward as much as he is selfish, and will do anything for money and fame. The ZioMedia comes in again, calling Trump "anti-establishment", even as he acts like a Zionist, warmongering fascist...

Zionist goals: Militarization of US police, open borders, wars against Muslims, confrontation with Russia, and above all else, DIVIDE DIVIDE DIVIDE!

Trump has done NOTHING to stop the flood of illegals. Ann Coulter explains what Trump did on DACA was just another way to get Congress to give illegals AMNESTY: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUZOAwQGeJ4

Trump removed Obama's limitation on what military style weapons police are allowed to have. And after watching the police sit back and watch antifa attack Americans, I wonder who exactly are those police going to use those new weapons on, US?

Trump increases America's war in Afghanistan, bombs Syria with an obvious false flag operation as justification, bombs Yemen because Yemen is defending itself from Saudi Arabia, he ignores Clinton's crimes, and approves Obama's weapons sale to Saudi Arabia. 

Trump, like Obama and Clinton are actors, playing a role, with scrips written for them by our Zionist masters. When you look at American governemnt actions, they seem like they are insane, considering nothing they do helps us, yet their actions align perfectly with Zionist goals, not by coincidence. 

east of eden's picture

Perhaps. Or perhaps not. Your piece sounds very much like propoganda to me.

Here's the thing, sonny. When you don't get to pick your weapons, you fight with what you've got.

ONe day, no doubt, you will learn that lesson.

BingoBoggins's picture

I'm keeping my hands in sight, off the up/down buttons -

I would have asked the question, "what's our role, bit players that we may be, in this Epic?"

To which I woulda offered, "Total improvisation from here on out".  And, stay true to your interpretation of the plot - enough to see it through.

Whatever it is your lessons have taught you.

 

nevertheless's picture

You type but don't say anything. Who would I be pushing propaganda for?

 

 

HK VP9's picture

Still any doubt these fucks are joined nuts to butts? 

God is The Son's picture

Has TRUMP resigned yet?

Jam's picture

Israelis are ragheads pure and simple, birds of a feather flock together.

dlfield's picture

"Cooperation on a wide range of issues are occurring behind the scenes, more than at any time in Israel’s history."

Great.  WWIII should break out any moment now...

kidinwyoming's picture

Whose ready for another round of whack a mole in Syria?  This time they won't stop til Assad is dead and ass raped with a bayonet.

east of eden's picture

Before your scenario ever had the remotest chance of coming to fruition, Tel Aviv and Jeddah would be a smoking ruin, desposited into a mile deep crater.

falconflight's picture

Keep your wet dreams to yourself.

NoWayJose's picture

Just coordinating their attacks on Syria!

Rebelrebel7's picture

I think that it is safe to surmise that this is the beginning of the fall of the house of Saud, particularly when the imminent collapse of the petto-dollar is within visibility combined with the in your face collusion with Netenyahu and the Israeli government.

The Arabs will throw the royal family into a lions den for entertainment before advocating for  collusion with the Israeli government!

Rebelrebel7's picture

If the financial resources are removed from the royal family, terrorism will immediately be cut in half at a minimum! It may be the best thing for the world!

Zip_the_Zap's picture

I always wondered what "Clearly the war in Syria and the international push for regime change." So when Jooo Land, Saudi Arabia and the USA want something, it is an international push. When Russia, China, Iran, India, Vietnam (basically, the rest of the world) do not, well then, they are just a bunch of assh%&es. And here is the good ol USA supporting two of the most murderous regimes on the planet.

Falconsixone's picture

Nine Eleven Celebration..........

David Wooten's picture

"In what pertains to the Syrian crisis, the Kingdom is resolute in its position and there is no longer any room to back down. The fact must be stressed that in the case where the Syrian regime is able to pass through its current crisis in any shape or form, the primary goal that it will pursue is taking revenge on the countries that stood against it, with the Kingdom and some of the countries of the Gulf coming at the top of the list. If we take into account the extent of this regime’s brutality and viciousness and its lack of hesitancy to resort to any means to realize its aims, then the situation will reach a high degree of danger for the Kingdom, which must seek by all means available and all possible ways to overthrow the current regime in Syria."

No, your savage Kingliness, Assad is not going to be "taking revenge" on you, even though you and the entire Saudi family richly deserve it.  Assad (with his highly intelligent British, Sunni wife) will be satisfied to restore Syria's borders and resume the reform of Syria.  This is what you and the Netanyahu regime really cannot stand - an Arab country with a decent leader who makes you both look as evil as you are.

east of eden's picture

Excellent point. And very good cut and thrust, as well.

TabakLover's picture

Just Abraham's great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great...................great, grankids getting together.

ClickNLook's picture

Arabization of Europe starting to make sense.

ClickNLook's picture

Arabization of Europe starting to make sense.

Arrest Hillary's picture

Not only can 1.7 bwillyun Muslims not eliminate 12 mwillyun Israelis .... they must consort with Israel at every turn .... how pathetic are the filthy Muslim pig dogs ?

johnnycanuck's picture

More likely Israel trying to secure financing for a continuation of the proxy war against Syria, with Israel running the show but not paying for it of course.  Israel never foots the bill, some Arab sheikdoms and dummies from America do.

TabakLover's picture

Saudis upping Israel's cut of the LNG profits from the pipeline to Europe they will build....once Assad is out of the way.  But, they forget about Mr. Putin.

MrBoompi's picture

The Saudis care for the Palestinians as much as they care for the Yemenis.

falconflight's picture

I wasn't aware that the Saudis were conducting a highly destructive war against the Fauxlestinians.

kidbroge's picture

Quid pro quo. For taking out syria we will recognize you, wondering if that was discussed.

dogismycopilot's picture

Today is 9/11.

This is a nice touch.

Meanwhile, back at the Ranch, the NEOCONS still pushing the propaganda that Russia is our enemy. 

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/11/will-china-and-russia-support-oil-sancti...

LA_Goldbug's picture

I bet it would chosen for a purpose. Show the Goyem how stupid they are.

moorewasthebestbond's picture

If Saudi Arabia is an American colony, you know what that means.

 

Saudi Arabia is an Israel colony.

 

Sometimes colonies need a smackdown.

DarthVaderMentor's picture

Think you have it reversed. America, as long as it is controlled by the Deep State NEOCON globalist pigs, is a Saudi Colony. 

johnnycanuck's picture

I'm skeptical of this report from Israel especially comparing it to other reports from more reliable sources which strongly indicate SA has been looking for ways to get out of it's military entanglements before they run out of money. Such things as feelers to Iran and making nice with Putin who would keep Syria and Iran in check.

However, I believe the wikileaks material to be completely accurate as at the time one of the Saudi Royals was quoted as saying an abbreviated version of that.  From memory, 'The regime in Damascus cannot be allowed to survive in any form lest they have the chance to take their revenge on us for what we have done to their country.'

novictim's picture

Makes sense.  Both countries collaborated to destroy the State of Syria and now that they have utterly failed to complete that task, they have to come up with new strategies to make it difficult for the independent and secular government of Assad to function.

novictim's picture

Another wrinkle that must be factored in:  The Saudi top family officials know that Islam is a fraud. No one else is in that position but they sit on the Meccan archaeological data that shows Mecca was not the place of bustling trade, the city of cities, as the Koran outlined and that it was not extant at the time of Mohammad, and could not have been his birth place or a place that Abraham visited millennia earlier.

falconflight's picture

Both Mecca and Medina were large Jewish cities on the Arabian Peninsula when Mohammend army slayed thousands for refusing to submit.  

novictim's picture

>"were large Jewish cities on the Arabian Peninsula when Mohammend army slayed thousands for refusing to submit.  "

Actually, Medina was but Mecca was not on the trade routes.  Plenty of Byzantine era maps demonstrate this. Mecca only becomes a kinown place of significance in the 8th century after the Kaaba is moved from Petra to Mecca.  This occurs in the 740s.  And the Koran becomes fully assembled and written after that.

falconflight's picture

I'm referring to pre 628.

novictim's picture

Mecca prior to the death of Mohammad was not a place.  Maybe there were some huts there lost to history or never recorded?  But there are no records of an ancient Mecca, certainly not a major trading city that has the geogrphic descriptions of having dates that are spoken of in the Koran.  The only city that matches the Koranic "Mecca" is actually Petra in Syria which is also the place that all the first mosques pointed towards.  

Islam is just a deliberate fabrication that took shape long after the death of "Mohammad".  Its purpose was to raise up the Arab people and provide them with justifications for conquest.  And it succeeded... but it did not succeed in covering its own tracks.

falconflight's picture

We'll have to agree to disagree.  There was a long and well documented Jewish presence, in fact, a majority population when Mohammed laid siege to those two places after the Jewish priests refused submission.

To Hell In A Handbasket's picture

The Donmeh fake Muslim traitors have finally revealed themselves. 

  • Just like the rise of Ataturk and the history of modern Turkey is twisted on lies and the hidden truth, except to scholars, the truth Ataturk was a crypto jew.
  • Just like the rise and the funding of the Bolshviks is hidden, except to scholars, and the fact they were Jewish, including Lennin.

Civil servants for the Iranian and the British governments both made detailed reports pre WW2, claiming the origins of the  House of Saud, was Jewish. These reports have been dismissed as fake and lies by TPTB and anybody post 1960's who claimed otherwise was vilified as a liar, anti-Semite and faced ostracization in any field the Jews had power.

In my 22 years of working  for a Think-Tank, specialising in geopolitics, I have heard and been told by different people at least 15 times over that period, that the House of Saud are crypto Jews. At first I never believed it, but their was one conversation when a French diplomat laid out to me who funded the Bolsheviks and their demographics was Jewish.

He told me about Ataturk and the demographics of the Young Turks, he told me about the demographics of what we know today as the Neocons(which I already knew) and then he dropped the bombshell that the house of Saud was Sephardi crypto Jewish and the British government new it.

TODAY CONFIRMS IT 100%.

falconflight's picture

Jesus Too!  They are the Masters of the Univerrrrrse!

ClickNLook's picture

Where's Jesus's birth certificate?