Breaking News of Saudi Crown Prince's "Secret" Visit To Israel Brings Embassy Scramble

Tyler Durden's picture

Clearly the war in Syria and the international push for regime change against Assad has created strange alliances in the Middle East over the past few years. Among the strangest bedfellows are the Israelis and Saudis. It's no secret that common cause in Syria of late has led the historic bitter enemies down a pragmatic path of unspoken cooperation as both seem to have placed the break up of the so-called "Shia crescent" as their primary policy goal in the region. But that's perhaps why few pundits seemed overly shocked when Israeli media late last week began reporting that a Saudi prince made a secret visit to Israel, in spite of the fact that the kingdom does not recognize the Jewish state, and the two sides do not have diplomatic relations.

Last Wednesday (9/6) Israel's state funded Kol Yisrael radio service made cryptic reference to the "secret" yet historic visit while withholding names and specifics. "An emir of the Saudi royal court visited the country secretly in recent days and discussed with senior Israeli officials the idea of advancing regional peace," the station reported. It added further that, "Both the Prime Minister's Office and the Foreign Ministry refused to comment on the issue."


Left: Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu, Right: Saudi Arabia's Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman

The visit is said to have occurred the same week Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu confirmed "unprecedented" relations with the Arab world. Netanyahu made the comments before members of the foreign ministry and said, "Things that are happening today between Israel and the Arab world are unprecedented. Cooperation on a wide range of issues are occurring behind the scenes, more than at any time in Israel’s history."

But on Sunday reports began to emerge that the unidentified Saudi royal in question is no less than Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman, which would indeed be shocking news:

On Sunday, the IUVM Online Arabic news outlet identified the Saudi official who reportedly visited Israel as Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman, the Defense Minister of Saudi Arabia and heir apparent to the throne.

 

The IUVM Online report cited a United Arab Emirates intelligence officer, who claimed that bin Salman was the member of the Saudi royal family who met with Israeli officials in last week’s secret meeting.

Western journalists also began on Sunday to report the dignitary as being Crown Prince Salman - something which could have huge geopolitical consequences for the region given that such a high level meeting would possibly take place at all.

The reports were immediately disputed and subject to disbelief and controversy. As bin Salman's name continued to circulate Sunday, the Saudi Embassy in Washington D.C. attempted to shut down news of the visit. A senior Saudi diplomatic official took to Twitter with a simple "Nope" in reference to the allegations.

Of course, if true such a dramatic move between the countries would signify a monumental shift in relations and outlook. On Sunday Israeli media was also broadly advancing bin Salman's name as the Saudi emir in question.


Multiple Israeli outlets on Sunday identified Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman as having met with senior Israeli officials early last week.

Though initial reports in Israeli media speculated that it could mean positive momentum on the Palestinian issue, it is unlikely that the future king of Saudi Arabia himself would suddenly pay a personal visit to Israel over an issue which has stalemated regional diplomacy for decades. It also doesn't appear that Israeli policy on settlements has undergone any significant on the ground change. If true, public knowledge of the visit will certainly result in embarrassment for both countries, especially on the Saudi domestic front.

The initial Israeli public radio report referenced the visit of "an emir of the Saudi royal court" on Wednesday while saying the trip took place "in recent days". As both Israel and Saudi Arabia have been so heavily invested in pursuing regime change in Syria, and at a time when other world powers seem to be backing off, it is inconceivable that Syria wasn't high on the agenda during the unprecedented visit.

The timing of the meeting also seems more than just coincidental in relation to last week's Israeli airstrike on a Syrian military facility, which took place in the middle of the night Wednesday (or more precisely Thursday morning at 3:00 am). As we reported at the time, Israel's brazen act of aggression was designed to provoke a response from Syria. As the Syrian government stands poised to be victorious in the more than 6-year long conflict while rapidly regaining more and more territory, Israel seems desperate to keep the war going and is still making last ditch efforts to draw external powers deeper into Syria, though framing its aggression as "humanitarian".

Could the two powers have been engaged in face to face talks over renewed efforts at ramping up the stalled war for regime change in Syria? After all, Israel's declarations of its willingness to do anything to prevent an enduring Iranian presence in Syria have reached a new erratic pitch of late. During Netanyahu's recent contentious summit with Vladimir Putin in Sochi, the Israeli leader reportedly warned Putin that Israel would not tolerate an enlarged and stronger Shia sphere of influence along Israel's border. Yet the current trajectory of the war in Syria ensures just that, especially after the US-Russia brokered Astana agreement seemed to give tacit approval of Iranian troop presence in parts of Syria, while placing Russia in the driver's seat. It was further revealed that a senior Israeli official accompanying Netanyahu on the trip threatened to assassinate Syrian President Assad by bombing his palace in Damascus, while further adding that Israel will seek to derail the Astana de-escalation deal.

As for Saudi Arabia, while its deep embroilment in inter-GCC diplomatic war with Qatar seems to have tempered what used to be routine calls for Assad's departure, it must be remembered that the current unraveling of the GCC is ultimately benefiting IranIt is entirely possible that the Iran issue alone might drive the kingdom into direct engagement with Israel no matter the risks and political embarrassment (for example, news of the visit hands Iran a propaganda victory and likely more influence on the so-called Arab street, even perhaps within Saudi's own domestic population).

Saudi Arabia could also be worried about future blowback from its well-documented actions in Syria. A WikiLeaks cable released in 2015 as part of the "Saudi Leaks" trove of internal leaked Saudi diplomatic memos speaks to just this scenario. Though the memo's exact date is unknown, it was drafted sometime in early 2012 based on internal references in the Arabic text. It spells out the kingdom's internal long term rationale on Syria: that should the Syrian regime "be able to pass through its current crisis in any shape or form" then increased "danger for the Kingdom" means Saudi Arabia must "seek by all means available and all possible ways to overthrow the current regime in Syria." A full translation of the key passage reads as follows:

"In what pertains to the Syrian crisis, the Kingdom is resolute in its position and there is no longer any room to back down. The fact must be stressed that in the case where the Syrian regime is able to pass through its current crisis in any shape or form, the primary goal that it will pursue is taking revenge on the countries that stood against it, with the Kingdom and some of the countries of the Gulf coming at the top of the list. If we take into account the extent of this regime’s brutality and viciousness and its lack of hesitancy to resort to any means to realize its aims, then the situation will reach a high degree of danger for the Kingdom, which must seek by all means available and all possible ways to overthrow the current regime in Syria."

Whether or not it was in fact Crown Prince Salman that himself went to Israel, the timing of the high level delegation's visit is simply impossible to ignore. Simply put, Syria was without a doubt discussed... and shortly thereafter Syria was bombed. Such direct and closer relations among perennial enemies could be a sign of more escalation and desperate measures to come in the region. This is certainly not - as Israeli media reported - a sign of regional peace.

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King Of Mars's picture

Well, I hope this news gets leaked to the brainwashed citizens of Saudi.  I would love to see how the Kindom explains this little ditty.

falconflight's picture

Psyop disinformation piece promogated by probably Iran, and click bait for the rest.

johnnycanuck's picture

but but, the source is attributed to an ISRAELI radio station.  Psyops indeed. Otherwise put world champion bullshitters.

falconflight's picture

Are you a Westerner?  Because if you are, and an American/Canuck in particular, and somehow trusting sources of origination just because...well I'm pretty much speechless.  Israeli media is mostly Leftist, but not all.  They too read their memes just like everywhere, and it is nearly always a bias infused agenda calculation, just like in the US media industry.

johnnycanuck's picture

The source this article is based on is an Israeli source. In the words of Benjamin Buford Blues momma, from the Forrest Gump movie, are you stupid or somethin?

If Israeli Hasbarra central is paying you, they should stop.

falconflight's picture

I won't repeat my original reply, you are the quintessential Dunning-Kruger Syndrome victim.

johnnycanuck's picture

Your replies are like your assertions, full of bullshit.

madashellron's picture

You sound like Psyop disinformation you smuck.

falconflight's picture

Time to deconstruct the artifically concocted state called Syria.  Part to Turkey, a Kurdistan, and Iraq.  The remainer in the south can be the new Syria.

http://nationalinterest.org/commentary/the-alawites-ethnic-cleansing-syr...

 

madashellron's picture

That's excatly what a Neocons wet dream is all about. And it ain't going to happen. Your Islamic Terrorist lost the war. Now eat your bagel and don't be so butt hurt.

Mena Arkansas's picture

Time to nuke israel and wipe the synagogue of satan from the face of the planet.

falconflight's picture

Will you then be more eligible for your 72 virgin goats?  I'm not a Koranic scholar...

ShakenNotStirred's picture

Some tried hard for 70 years. Israel only developed while its enemies are still living among rocks.

johnnycanuck's picture

Time to honor the promise to the inhabitants of Palestine made by the British in the Balfour document. It's very brief and alludes to a homeland for Jews, not a country, and full protection of Palestinians civil rights. Otherwise put, property rights.

falconflight's picture

What a load, Balfour was a policy statement, not a legal instrument codifying Jewish national rights as is the case regarding the Treaty of St. Remo, the League of Nations Charter, and specifically grandfathered into the UN Charter.  

falconflight's picture

Your interpretation belies either your lack of honesty or lack of mastery of the English language...or both. Non Jewish populations rights is explicitly devoid of any mention of an Arab Palestine. The Balfour letter is quite clear:

Foreign Office
November 2nd, 1917

Dear Lord Rothschild,

I have much pleasure in conveying to you, on behalf of His Majesty's Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet.

His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.

I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation.

Yours sincerely,
Arthur James Balfour

falconflight's picture

And don't forget that timing of this release (WWI).  The British would have never issued such a policy without the explicit agreement by the Allies...US, France, Italy..

johnnycanuck's picture

" of a national home for the Jewish people"

A national home is not a promise of a sovereign country and;

"it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine,"

is exaclty what I said, that civil, read property rights of Palestinians would be respected.  Those property rights are not only not being respected by Israel, they are being ignored and theft of Palestinian land is common place.

jomama's picture

How dare. you. show up around here sporting an above average level of reading comprehension.

ShakenNotStirred's picture

The Palestinians had their chance in 1948 and rejected it in the UN. They rejected every possible arrangement with Israel ever since. The train is gone 70 years ago and they are still waiting for it. Anyone believing Palestinians will have a "state" should stop injecting.

 

SuperChicken1138's picture

IDF flying about.     

https://twitter.com/avischarf/status/907182621733552130

https://twitter.com/obretix/status/907322538702843906

The Israeli Justice Minister Ealit Shaked said on Monday that if Bashar al-Assad wanted to remain in power, he would have to get Iran out of Syria immediately.

Katz: we may need to do same things in Syria as Begin did with preemptive strike on Iraq nuke program in 1981.

Liberman: Assad could not exist with out Iran, Russia could not beat ISIS with out Iran.

 

they are going to start WW3 one way or another, somewhere. and when the whole world is bombed out enough and cries for relief, then comes the hammer. NWO one government rule.

falconflight's picture

Well Hareztz is known to be such a 'fair and balanced' news outlet in Israel.  NOT.  Kinda like CNN/MSNBC and Salon rolled up in one.  

falconflight's picture

Geez, it's saying page can't be found.  I'm not challenging you, I just wanted to view the quotes...or the sources claiming the quotes.

falconflight's picture

BTW, where are the quotes?  I don't see them in your two twitter links.

falconflight's picture

I got that, but those quotes, I couldn't find.  Anyway I just clicked on that first link and got:

Sorry, that page doesn’t exist!

You can search Twitter using the search box below or return to the homepage.

 
falconflight's picture

Funny stuff.  Just saw brand new tweet from David Duke to your twitter 'source.' Avi Scharf 

San Pedro's picture

OMG the Jews are taking over the Middle East..now they own everything!! 

falconflight's picture

I know.  I've pretty much decided to get on the winning team and convert. ;0

falconflight's picture
madashellron   RumpleShitzkin Sep 11, 2017 3:40 PM

How much you want to bet he's circumcised?



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0 new falconflight   madashellron Sep 11, 2017 9:25 PM

You fcking retard.  

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Come On Puu See's picture

TAKE YOUR ISLAMIC TERRORIST GARBAGE ELSEWHERE! 

falconflight's picture

I must be making progress; called an Islamic Terrorist and Hasbara from posters on the same article. ;)

LindseyNarratesWordress's picture

This is still, even after four years, THE best essay on the big picture, of what has been done to our world, at-large, but, in-particular, to, and AGAINST, The Middle East:

 

http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2013/08/01/the-arab-spring-clash-of-ci...

 

 

 

"MUSLIMS AND CHRISTIANS OF THE MIDDLE-EAST, HEED MY WORDS…

You have been victims of a divide-and-conquer strategy that has completely demoralized your people, created strife and tension and disunity which has successfully pitted Shia against Sunni, Muslim against Christian, Kurdish against their neighbors, and vice-versa on all previous groups mentioned, all benefitting the furtherance of “The jewish Utopia.” http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=70583

It is zionism/israel/zOGs-of-USA-UK-Etc., that are MANIPULATING, FINANCING, RADICALIZING, and COORDINATING the proxies known as “the rebels” in Syria, as they did in Libya; however, there is one very big difference between what they did in Libya, to what they are doing in Syria:

THE WORLD NOW KNOWS WHO IS BEHIND “the rebels.”

Once the veneer had been lifted-off of the intended obfuscation/lie that the “Arab Spring” happened all on its own, and “the Libyan people revolted” and “the Syrian people revolted” and on and on it went, the people affected PERSONALLY by all of this evil began to seriously soul-search and question all that they were told previously about who is right and who is wrong and who is doing what to whom for whatever reason(s), and then discovered the ugly truth(s), first said by a few who were ignored, the world may have been able to prevent so much catastrophe if only “the people” affected by the subterfuge and treason by the “usual-suspects” had only believed the truths sopken by these few. As one commentator stated–“This has become known as the Arab Spring. Unfortunately, like all their previous struggles, there is a poisonous snake in the background, which covertly is directing and orchestrating this Arab Spring to reap its fruits for itself.” 

I tire of repeating myself as what I am saying in this essay I, and a growing number of others, have repeated literally hundreds of times personally in-writing, but it is necessary because of the importance of what is being repeated, and for the fact that obviously the information has not reached enough people, and those individuals and groups with the power and gravitas/influence to get started motivating people to speak-out and help change what is happening to OUR planet, not just what is happening to people in other nations, or with other religions.

It is becoming more and more known that there are very serious allegations that the Saudi “royals” are really crypto-jews installed by the zionist-controlled British after WW1. Other evidenced allegations say Ataturk was a donmeh jew who facilitated the destruction of The Ottoman Empire, which absolutely had to happen to be the catalyst of the physical-national “founding” of israel, because that land was part of the western boundary of The Ottoman Empire, known as Palestine, as if anyone needed to be reminded of that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine It also must be remembered that SUBTERFUGE is THE GREATEST TOOL employed against humanity, because with subterfuge, people never can truly know who is “the good guy,” who is “the bad guy,” what is true, what is false, if a movement legitimate or not, and on and on."...

 

Lindsey 

Joiningupthedots's picture

Somebody needs to inform both sets of fuckwits that Russia/Syria/Iran/Hezbollah WON the Syria gambit?

Isreal? Got its arse kicked severely aginst Hezbollah a few years ago.

Saudi? Getting its arse kicked severely by the Houtis in yemen as we speak.

These two monkey entities will do what in Syria exactly?