Calls To Imprison "Climate Change Deniers" Grow In The Wake Of Hurricane Irma

Tyler Durden's picture

When retired Georgia Tech professor Judith Curry penned a blog post on her "Climate Etc." website suggesting that it was scientifically irresponsible to tie the intensity of Hurricanes Harvey and Irma directly to climate change, she probably didn't expect that she might trigger 1,000's of progressives to call for her immediate imprisonment.  Unfortunately, for both Curry and society at large, that is exactly what happened. 

Here is part of Curry's post that potentially resulted in this latest 'mass-triggering' event:

It is premature to conclude that human activities–and particularly greenhouse gas emissions that cause global warming–have already had a detectable impact on Atlantic hurricane or global tropical cyclone activity. That said, human activities may have already caused changes that are not yet detectable due to the small magnitude of the changes or observational limitations, or are not yet confidently modeled (e.g., aerosol effects on regional climate).

As the Washington Times notes, Curry's comments only served to further enrage Al Gore's climate change crusaders who promptly ramped up their calls to imprison anyone with the audacity to present any data and/or question, in any way, climate models which should be accepted as proven fact...even though they're subjective and highly sensitive any number of input variables.

That is the kind of talk that could get policymakers who heed her research hauled before the justice system, if some of those in the climate change movement have their way.

 

“Climate change denial should be a crime,” declared the Sept. 1 headline in the Outline. Mark Hertsgaard argued in a Sept. 7 article in the Nation, titled “Climate Denialism Is Literally Killing Us,” that “murder is murder” and “we should punish it as such.”

 

The suggestion that those who run afoul of the climate change consensus, in particular government officials, should face charges comes with temperatures flaring over the link between hurricanes and greenhouse gas emissions.

 

“In the wake of Harvey, it’s time to treat science denial as gross negligence — and hold those who do the denying accountable,” said the subhead in the Outline article, written by Brian Merchant.

 

Brad Johnson, executive director of Climate Hawks Vote, posted last week on Twitter a set of “climate disaster response rules,” the third of which was to “put officials who reject science in jail.”

PB

 

And while we're not sure if imprisonment is the right punishment, it does seem a bit outrageous for a Georgia Tech climate scientist to challenge the opinions of both the Pope and Sir Richard Branson on climate change...who does she think she is? 

Meanwhile, Pope Francis said the two Category 4 storms offer proof of catastrophic climate change, even though they are the first two major hurricanes to make landfall on the U.S. mainland in 12 years.

 

“You can see the effects of climate change with your own eyes, and scientists tell us clearly the way forward,” said the pontiff, adding that leaders have a “moral responsibility” to take action.

 

“Man-made climate change is contributing to increasingly strong hurricanes causing unprecedented damage,” Mr. Branson said in a Friday statement. “The whole world should be scrambling to get on top of the climate change issue before it is too late for this generation, let alone the generations to come.”

Of course, while we would never question the opinions of the Pope and/or a Knight, we do find the following chart on U.S. hurricane strikes by decade to be somewhat perplexing.  Why, for example, were U.S. hurricane strikes above average for almost every decade between 1870 and 1950 before declining in the 1950s through 2000?  If hurricane frequency can suddenly be linked directly to climate change in 2017, shouldn't it have produced similarly alarming hurricanes in the 80's, 90's and 2000's?  If we're not mistaken, CO2 output has pretty much consistently risen since man first started building fires...

Hurricanes

Of course, maybe the extreme weather events have simply shifted away from the U.S. and global hurricane strikes are the more relevant metric...except not...

Globa;

Oh well, we probably just don't understand the math...

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JiminyCrickets's picture

Sounds like a criminal threat?

Maybe we should start locking them up before its too late.

Gobble D. Goop's picture

I'm old enough to remember the coming ice age scare of the 70's.  Late great planet earth stuff.

I guess they think they saved the ozone layer as by forcing everyone off r12 chloroflourocarbons as well.

They are on the clock.  The planet is cooling.  MUST get those carbon taxes before it gets too obvious, or they won't be able to claim the credit.

Just hold 'em off a few more years

In the meantime, how but plugging up FUKI FUCKING SHIMA if you're worried about the FUCKING PLANET.  That's an EXTINCTION LEVEL EVENT DUMBASS AGW'ers.

How bout sending some deep water cameras down there to take another look at the gulf oil spill, or is corexant cheaper?

How about going outside, look up, as ask what the hell are all those CHEMTRAILS

Get yer frickin hands out my god damned back pocket 

buzzsaw99's picture

another ice age is inevitable.

Smilygladhands's picture

How about institutionalizing anyone who thinks there are more than 2 genders instead

dlfield's picture

Well, their solution is to kill most of us off, hence less carbon emissions...

brokenspoke's picture

Hurricains will always be more destrustive going forward, because we have increasing populations and build more shit.

Rich Monk's picture

Liberal, and progressive = marxist Jews. Wake up folks, this slow death by the communist Jews that infiltrated every facet of American society will kill evey one of us as they did in Russia, and China. Only the 2nd Amendment stands between us and the Jew created Gulags!

Rebelrebel7's picture

This is a total discredit to the environmentalist movement, actually started by Republican Theodore Roosevelt who started the national park system and was a Sierra Club founder. Barry Goldwater was a ferverant environmentalist, as was Richard Nixon who started the clean water act and clean air act. 

I am also in favor of clean air, water and land not destroyed by toxic chemicals. It would be suicidal or stupid not to be.

Having said that, the Paris Accord actually legislates increases in global carbon output because it allows for developing nations including China,  to continue increasing their carbon output without punishment,  and forces the US and other nations to financially subsidize the transition of developing nations to renewable energy prior to our own transition, which we would continue being fined for! 

China is the world's largest polluter, and has the world's largedt economy! 

There is nothing preventing any local governments from adopting 100 % renewable energy programs for their residents! 25 cities have commited to 100% renewable energy, and they are smart to do it, because the Petro dollar reign is ending in addition to US hegemony! Those cities will be the most prepared in the coming crisis! 

https://www.ecowatch.com/cities-commit-renewable-energy-2324917492.html

Carbon trading is nothing but a Wall Street scheme, and leave it to the liberal losers who idolize creator of the IMF and World Bank under the false pretenses of ending global poverty, John Maynard Keynes,  to fall for it hook, line, and sinker!

We don't need carbon credit trading in order to use renewable energy anymore than we need central banks to create money!

Anderson Coopers Gerbil's picture

If we all lived the same lifestyle of AlGore mankind would be saved!

G-R-U-N-T's picture

Useful idiots are a dime a dozen!

The global warming loot the masses fraud, taxing and feeing the air humanity exhales is a hell of a CON. Governments worldwide are broke and what better way to steal wealth than have humanity pay to live taxing CO2 which has absolutely NO significant effect on atmospheric temperature much less anthropogenic CO2, which is the main premise of this braindead theory. 

Here's the irony: The sun is on a cycle of minimal activity launching us into global cooling, which begs the question: What are these dumb shits going to do as this shift which is presently occuring?

For the ignorant and naive I suggest you get educated and put on your critical thinking skills hat, or remain dumb shits believing ANY fucked up image that comes your way!

 

-Nobel Laureate in Physics; "Global Warming is Pseudoscience"-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXxHfb66ZgM

 

NickPeeMe's picture

You should not be able to put people in jail for being stupid. Freedom means being able to believe whatever you want. If you want top believe Pizzagate but not believe in gravity that is perfectly acceptable.

Gold Banit's picture

Wow! I can't believe at how dumb these left wing retards are, they probably believe that there wasn't any hurricains 100, 200, 300 years ago....LOL

wobblie's picture

Oh stop with the global warming denial.

So childish.

Is it so hard to see that the car, oil, plastics and many other industries are existentially reliant on oil? That this whole society is one big oil junkie?

Proof that Liberals and Conservatives -- yes, Liberals are part of the problem -- rather see their children dead than to challenge their masters.

I'm curious what country do you want your kids to die and get maimed in next? But don't worry these worsening environmental conditions will get us all soon enough.

Climate records are now being broken every day. Storms are getting bigger and bigger, Miami's underwater on monthly basis.....

Don't worry Trump will save us. Lol.

Yars Revenge's picture

Climate change is a fraud perpetuated for monetary gain and to oppress opponents of communism.

MarketWizard's picture

Last time i checked we were supposed to be swiming with the fish in 2017 with all that glacial melting, 

ohhh and who remembers the OZONE scare tactics...We were told we would have to walk around with umbrellas constantly

to block the sun's rays SPF 1000 .....ALLL BULLSHIT!! 

outofnowhere's picture

Thought crimes are real.

 

How much will the 'Thought Crimes' police officers make in yearly wages?

 

 

 

 

 

css1971's picture

This is really dangerous.

Since the computer revolution,  our measuring instrumentation has become orders of magnitude better than it was before.

We can measure and see stuff we couldn't have before. Weather satellites for example.  We can now take photos of hurricanes from space ffs . Just because we can see more doesn't mean it wasn't happening before.

Ooze The Other One's picture

"Climate denial is literally killing us."

I sense this person, along with sooooo many others, doesn't know the difference between "literally" & "figuratively".  I am literally disgusted with such willful ignorance.

Shpedly's picture

I guess the equally strong 1921 Tampa Bay hurricane was just an anomaly.

dobermangang's picture

This was a recent tweet of the day:

2006: "Hurricanes are going to be worse and more frequent!"

2007:

2008:

2009:

2010:

2011:

2012:

2013:

2014:

2015:

2016:

2017: "Told you so!"

https://twitter.com/Elocutioner/status/906563960786341890

Theos's picture

I still dont understand why people are pro-pollution. Rollin coal, wat?

Rapunzal's picture

Can we put all the corrupt university presidents, deans and professors into jail. Leaching of a credit fueled student boom and lying to the people about everything. The NWO has a complete grip on all institutions and they serve their puppet masters well.

HRH Feant2's picture

Oh we wn't have to do that! Wait until enrollment not only drops, but crashes. Wait until the economy is so fucked up that those huge endowment funds are, gasp, TAXED. Wait until universities are no lo longer tax exempt and have to pay, gasp, property taxes! Wait until those universities have to downsize because it is no longer affordable to attend unless you are wealthy.

The days of the university grow short. In ten years I doubt many of them will still be around. It is no longer necessary to be in a physical location to get an education.

I think they should start turning those dormitories into homeless shelters. They could certainly use the buildings in California for something useful. Basic dorm rooms, shower down the hall, communal bathrooms. Sounds like the perfect solution to the ever growing homeless problem.

That and end tax exempt status. No group or place in the US should be tax exempt. Perhaps veterans. No one else.

SweetDougisaTwat's picture

Old Sol is actually nearing the end of a 300 year cycle marking lower thermodynamic output.  The resulting net effect will supercede anything the the Warmers anticipate. Tell the Warmers that we will likely see a period of time akin to the last Maunder Minimum. Most of them won't have any idea what you are talking about. That ought to get their underwear in a twist.

Oh, and don't mention that all of our 15 thousand years of civilization has sprung up since the last Ice Age--with another much larger Sun Cycle implication being that we are likely living in between Ice Ages.  Telling that to a Warmer could get you a bust in the mouth.

Harry Paranockus's picture

If that Warmer is Jennifer Lawrence, I'm all for a bust in the mouth.

HRH Feant2's picture

I agree. The sun has a much large impact on the earth than us humans. Lots of good science out there about the relationship between the sun and earth, magnetic fields, the earth's core. Thankfully there are people that dom't act like know it alls and actually consider themselves scientists. Meaning they are doing research, making observations, and positing new theories that can be proven or disproven over time.

I think an ice age is more likely and the impact would be more horrific than the anthropogenic climate freaks are able to comprehend. If they think hunger is bad now, wait until the top half, or most of the US for example, is covered in snow for most of the year.

Aussiekiwi's picture

Denialism Is Literally Killing Us,” that “murder is murder” and “we should punish it as such.”

Cool, about time we punished the executives of the pharmaceatical companies killing millions of Americans by pushing their hard drugs.

orez65's picture

Billions of dollars spent on hurricane models that can't predict the path of hurricanes.

An old time weather man could do better hurricane path predictions with pencil and paper.

aloha_snakbar's picture

When I was a baby ManBearPig tried to rape me...

shimmy's picture

Just like Christians pre 17th or 18th century and (still some) Muslims wanted to imprison (or worse) people who didn't believe in their propaganda. Global warming has morphed into a religion for these nuts so it is not surprising to see them acting the same way as those involved in Christianity did for most of its existence.

I will say I am fascinated in how the global warming freaks have turned natural weather events that have been happening forever into being caused by people driving SUVs during the last few decades. Some of the nastiest hurricanes documented appear to have been before the 20th century so exactly how did AGW cause them? The most powerful hurricane on U.S record (too bad modern instruments and record keeping don't go back centuries so we'd have definitive proof of centuries old storms being worse than anything we've recently had) happened in 1935 and the second most powerful in 1969. How do these freaks explain that?

Then there is the whole fact the world went through a cooling period during the 60s and 70s which was the hot topic being talked about then. The global warming freaks can try and act like that didn't happen but reality and historical evidence/record has a funny way of not giving a fuck what agenda people may be pushing later on. 

I won't even get into how temperatures today aren't even back to the levels they were in the early part of the 20th century let alone going back to before the mini ice age a few centuries ago.

The AGW cultists love to tyr and act like those who aren't part of the cult are science deniers but the truth is the global warming cultists are the biggest deniers of science. And reality. "Skeptics" actually accept that weather events that have been happening forever aren't man made and "skeptics" can actually read temperature charts and data tables.

aloha_snakbar's picture

Al Gourds mansion...

http://www.zimbio.com/photos/Al+Gore/Al+Tipper+Gore+New+House+Montecito+...

 

I think if we all have mansions and private jets like Al Gourd and Leonerdo DiCrapio...we can SAVE the planet!

AurorusBorealus's picture

Global warming can be easily corrected.  During a nuclear detonation, especially a groundburst, large amounts of dust are thrown into the air, so far as the atmosphere.  If a sufficient amount of dust is present, such as would be the case in a large series of nuclear strikes, the cloud of dust will reach the point where sunlight will dim and the earth will cool. Scientists refer to this eventuality as "nuclear winter."

Should a large nation be completely obliterated in one hour by nuclear fire, this event would cast a cloud into the atmosphere that would result in very dark and cloudy days.  The ensuing nuclear winter would certainly cool the planet.  The other consequences of this event could not be foretold with precision: or could they?

samsara's picture

Have a Krakatoa event and you got it.

BiteMeBO's picture

1893 (yes 1893) hurricane season saw 10 hurricanes with 5 becoming major hurricanes.   Coal induced global warming?

JailBanksters's picture

Jail because you refuse to accept the words from your over lords.

That sounds about right, if it was 1984 !!!

Heroic Couplet's picture

How many BTUs of air conditioning are the Faux News studios running each year? I realize the politics of distraction lead the Faux crackheads to talk about "Al Gore's mansion energy use.” However, Faux are the ones talking global warming does not exist. While they're running their mouths, they're running the air conditioning.

What is the risk to Faux if there is global warming? Republicans get kicked in the butt, but there's little risk to Faux. That should set off BS detectors everywhere.

samsara's picture

Why not blame the 1935 hurricane? How about the turn of the century hurricane that swept away Galveston? How the 1930's one that took out Long Island and New England.

How was the hurricane season in years like 1245, 967, 1302, and 570 AD?

Oh, you don't have records for more than a few HUNDRED years?

The East Coast and the Gulf have been getting 'weather' for a few BILLION years.

In a century, Some of the 'science' we have now will seem as sensible as doctors using leeches to cure 'bad blood' is to us.

After reading as much as I could I believe the sun's activities have more effect on our weather than we do.

VladLenin's picture

Leftists even try to control climate... proof they are dangerous vermin.

Disgruntled Goat's picture

Climate science consists of fake phony goalseeked data designed to be the basis for a political agenda. There is no such thing as man made climate change. 

Falcon49's picture

Funny...when scientist's careers and pay are linked to their study findings to statistically validate man made global climate change...you get the results you pay for.  

restelle's picture

Stop Geoengineering.  Stop spraying shit from aircraft.

Lost in translation's picture

Dissenting opinion = murder. This is their position?

Should we expect the death penalty for dissent, as well? And what's next? Will objecting to homosexuality become "murder," too? Will objecting to taxation become "murder" after that?

These people are dangerously deranged.

HRH Feant2's picture

LIT, saying they are deranged is the understatement of the year!

I like history. Remember how other non-believers in the dominant cult of the era have been treated? Let's take a walk back to Socrates. They made him drink poison for attempting to teach young people. Corrupting the youth of Athens, was the charge, as I recall.

1500 years later the church began the Inquisition. People were burned for the crime of heresy, for apostasy, or drawn-and-quartered if they had managed to offend the local lords. William Wallace suffered that fate. Giordorno Bruna was burned at the stake. As was Joan of Arc. Galileo was put on house arrest for saying the Earth was not the center of the universe. Such simple matters that caused people to participate in a type of group think and mob mentality that should scare the fucking shit out of any intelligent person!

That is what these assholes are, nothing but modern day witch hunters.

dchang0's picture

Long ago I suffered the injustice of being punished for something I didn't do in one of those situations where they punish the whole group to try to get someone to rat out the person who did it. At the time, I thought, "If I'm going to be punished, I might as well do what they're accusing me of after the punishment."

If these people are going to punish "climate change deniers" as murderers, then as soon as the denier gets out of prison, they should go and murder the global warming alarmist that put them in prison. Why not? They've already done the time, might as well do the crime.

King of Ruperts Land's picture

pre-emptive strikes seem to be the in vogue concept these days.