Nearly 60% Of Americans Support 'Military Action' Against North Korea

Tyler Durden's picture

So much for “American first.”

As tensions between the US, its regional allies and North Korea escalate to levels unseen since the end of the Korea war, more Americans are saying they would support some form of military action against the country as a “last resort” should the US’s “diplomatic efforts” fail to convince the regime to surrender, or at least arrest, its nuclear program, according to a Gallup poll.

“As North Korea continues to launch test missiles and issue provocative threats against the U.S. and its allies in the region, a majority of Americans appear ready to support military action against that country, at least as a last resort. More specifically, 58% say they would favor taking military action against North Korea if economic and diplomatic efforts fail to achieve the United States' goals. This is significantly higher than the 47% in favor the last time Gallup asked this, in 2003.”

The magnitude of the increase – more than 10 percentage points – represents a significant shift, according to the survey’s author, Lydia Saad. Even after Trump’s former chief strategist Steve Bannon let slip that the US doesn’t have a viable military alternative for North Korea  - at least, not one that wouldn’t end with hundreds of thousands of civilian casualties in Seoul - the president’s rhetoric (though growing a little tired) appears to have struck a chord with Americans, and particularly his conservative base, who voted for him on a platform of foreign noninterventionism that has been totally abandoned by his administration.

According to Saad, the increase has been almost entirely partisan, with the percentage of Democrats who support war remaining relatively steady at around 40%, while the percentage of Republicans who would support a military intervention rose 23 percentage points to 82%.

“U.S. attitudes about striking North Korea are partisan, as they were in 2003. Eighty-two percent of Republicans in the Sept. 6-10 Gallup poll say they would favor military action if peaceful means fail, compared with 37% of Democrats.

 

The percentage of Democrats who favor military action has hardly changed since 2003: 37% now vs. 41% then. The major shift has been among Republicans, whose support for military action is up 23 percentage points, while independents' support is up 15 points.”

The survey compares contemporary American attitudes with public sentiment in 2002, when President George W Bush grouped North Korea, along with Iran and Iraq, as part of an “axis of evil.”

“Longstanding tensions over North Korea's nuclear program came to the surface in 2002, when George W. Bush described North Korea as "a regime arming with missiles and weapons of mass destruction, while starving its citizens."

 

He also grouped it with Iran and Iraq as part of an "axis of evil" that was "arming to threaten the peace of the world."

 

Later that year, North Korea revealed it had been maintaining a nuclear program in violation of the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, and soon afterward, in January 2003, Gallup first measured Americans' views about how to handle the regime.

 

At that time, 72% of Americans were optimistic that the situation involving North Korea could be resolved using only economic and diplomatic efforts. Far fewer today, 50%, believe nonmilitary pressure can work, while nearly as many, 45%, are skeptical.”

Gallup also points out that, unsurprisingly, there’s a “strong relationship” between respondents’ beliefs about the effectiveness of diplomacy and their support, or opposition, to military action.

“Notably, there is a strong relationship between Americans' views on the effectiveness of diplomacy and their support for taking military action against North Korea. Those who are skeptical of the value of diplomacy are more likely than those who believe diplomacy can work to say they would favor using military action if peaceful means fail - 75% vs. 43%, respectively.”

North Korea’s leaders are probably aware that firing a missile at the US, Japan or South Korea would be tantamount to suicide. In a finding that might explain investors’ nonplussed reaction to the North’s repeated provocations, Gallup found that most Americans believe Kim Jong Un is bluffing.

“Despite North Korean leader Kim Jong Un's fiery rhetoric in recent months about destroying the U.S. mainland, far less than half of Americans, 38%, consider it likely that North Korea will take military action against the U.S. in the next six months. This is up from 28% in the prior measure from 2013 but is still the distinct minority view.”

Still, most have been following the story.

“Regardless, news about North Korea's recent testing of missiles and nuclear weapons has certainly caught Americans' attention. The 83% saying they have been following the story very or somewhat closely is among the highest for any major news story Gallup has measured, ranking 15th out of more than 200 stories rated since 1991.”

In summary, while military action remains unlikely, Americans would support some type of action – be it a tactical strike or full-on invasion – if the Kim regime continues to launch rockets over Japan. If the latest round of watered-down UN sanctions is any indication, the security council is reaching the limits of its powers to economically punish the North.

Perhaps the survey’s findings will lend some added heft to Trump’s belligerent warnings.
 

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nope-1004's picture

Gallup, Bloomberg, CNN.... what "poll" is even worth giving credence to?

Or is this "poll" once again to steer public opinion?

 

cossack55's picture

How many of those dolts are struggling to be the first in the chute? Thought so.

robertsgt40's picture

Polling congress doesn't count. BTW,  congress hasn't declared war since 1941. I guess sht just happens.

Looney's picture

These people, the 60%, want:

<<<   Somebody else to fight and die for them on the Korean Peninsula

<<<   To actually go there and fight (and possibly die or get wounded)

Looney

Perimetr's picture

more concrete evidence that Americans

are mostly fucking clueless.

Hey we always win in the movies

how about a surgical strike?

The Alarmist's picture

Sure, so what shot can we take that won't result in the annihilation of Seoul?

Bes's picture

"60% of Americans are Idiots"

 there fixed it for you.

and trump is one of 'em for taking us to the brink

#maga

The Alarmist's picture

When you consider how one sided the reporting in US media is, I'm surprised the number is only 60%.

Stuck on Zero's picture

I don't believe the poll at all. It's contrived by the neocons. If the pollsters had asked if America should just leave and let the Koreans settle their issues there would have been a 90% affirmative response.

DollarMenu's picture

Nobody asked ME about a fucking war.

BKbroiler's picture

Right, because Gallup was spot on with the Trump polling before the election.  Or trolling, you could say.

Chupacabra-322's picture

Hahahahahahah!!!

Those 60% are Gas Lighted.

Got The Wrong No's picture

This is off topic but I was just wondering if anyone has seen a post from Dune Creature Lately? I hope he is OK.

 

I always enjoy his input here at ZH.

 

Live Hard, Die Free

ZeroLounger's picture

DC will disappear for awhile, then pop back up.  He's prolly still around.

cheka's picture

blood thirsty skype spewed a lot of crap for 14 years and all they got was this?  58 percent of US is fooled by their crap -

"58% say they would favor taking military action against North Korea if economic and diplomatic efforts fail to achieve the United States' goals. This is significantly higher than the 47% in favor the last time Gallup asked this, in 2003"

evildimensions's picture

45% of Americans believe in ghosts.

50% believe in haunted houses.

'nuff said

ScratInTheHat's picture

You’d have to rain down CBU-105s on NK just like Irma hit Texas! We don’t have that many CBU-105s!

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CY9gojFu-_U

caconhma's picture

The primary US National interests are:

  • Support Fed's banking mafia
  • Please Israel and the WallStreet and City of London masters

Unfortunately, the USA has no diplomacy. No wonder Hitlery Clinton was a previous Secretary of State and Agent Orange wanted to cut the State department by 50%. Consequently, it is either a war or nothing.

Too many Americans thinks that a war is just another computer game. Somehow, people who were in combat actions know its consequences including a very high suicide rate among veterans.

As for Trump, I don't think he will be in the office for much longer: he has no friends any more but too many enemies.

 

shining one's picture

Why bother, most of the human race has had their Soul annihilated.

researchfix's picture

Does a brainwashed vote count?

Cheka_Mate's picture

GALLOP POLL:

60% of Americans have never heard of General Douglas MacArthur or his warning to JFK "Never fight a land war in Asia!"

caconhma's picture

"60% of Americans have never heard of General Douglas MacArthur or his warning to JFK "Never fight a land war in Asia!"

No, you are wrong. It is well above 90%.

shining one's picture

Of course it does. They all are.

GUS100CORRINA's picture

Nearly 60% Of Americans Support 'Military Action' Against North Korea

My response: I have seen so many people on ZH defending DPNK. Quite frankly, I am very perplexed. 

Below are some news items that maybe of interest. What these items show is that the DPNK leader is a DESPOT with a REPROBATE MIND under DEMONIC control who is very dangerous. Is it any wonder that 60% of Americans are concerned with DPNK? Granted some of the concern maybe misplaced or based on bad information, but KIM JONG UN's fruit shown in these videos is ROTTEN to the core.

After North Korea murdered American Otto Warmbier, does anyone in their right mind want to continue to defend DPNK? If you are willing to kill your own family members, what won't you do?

News Item #1

===========

Kim Jong Orders Ex Girlfriend Executed by Firing Squad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mxsf_SrcM9o

"They were executed with machine guns while the key members of the Unhasu Orchestra, Wangjaesan Light Band and Moranbong Band as well as the families of the victims looked on," The Chosun Ilbo quoted its source as saying.

Ms Hyon's most famous hits were The Future is Beautiful, Whistling Bachelor and the 2005 smash Excellent Horse-Like Lady.

News Item #2

===========

Kim Jong-Un executes defence chief with anti-aircraft guns

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbCkH4ENXsg

North Korea's Supreme Leader Kim Jong-Un has reportedly ordered the execution of his defence minister, Hyon Yong-chol, with anti-aircraft guns - apparently for the heinous crime of falling asleep at an event attended by his leade

News Item #3

===========

Kim Jong Un Publically Kills His Aunt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jjycW0Tuhc

A man by the name of Park said publicly "On May 5th or 6th of last year, Kim Jong Un ordered his aunt, Kim Kyong Hui, to be killed." because she was mourning over the death of her husband, Jang Song Thaek, who Kim Jong Un also killed. 

Shemp 4 Victory's picture

All those "news" items are stories from the US-controlled MSM which are spoon-fed to consumers. Yet somehow you believe them without question.

What was that about "a REPROBATE MIND under DEMONIC control"?

beemasters's picture

And apparently he is in support of bombing the whole forest just to hunt a mountain lion that he's heard has killed its cubs. How people can be so lacking in critical think is beyond me!

'But...but...that lion has teeth,' he'd argue.

GUS100CORRINA's picture

Shemp 4 Victory 

Shemp 4 Victory said: "All those "news" items are stories from the US-controlled MSM which are spoon-fed to consumers. Yet somehow you believe them without question?"

REALLY???? 

Bay of Pigs's picture

Do some research on the Korean War and get back to us.

They lost a third of their population in three years and you wonder why they are hostile and untrusting of other countries and especially the USA?

The Alarmist's picture

1) Elian Gonzalez taken at gunpoint by government forces in Florida and forcibly repatriated to a gulag country;

2) Tens of innocent women and children burned to death by government forces at Waco, TX;

3) Pregnant woman, Husband and others assassinated by government forces at Ruby Ridge, ID.

Do I need to continue before you realise propaganda is ubiquitous?

GUS100CORRINA's picture

The Alarmist 

I thought we are talking about the NK and the DPNK leader.

Maybe I missed the memo that the subject changed.

Since you brought America into the subject, I find it strange you did not mention North Korea's murder of American Otto Warmbier. I guess you forgot about the incident correct?

As a side note, did you know that DPNK is number #1 in the world for persecution of people of faith?

One more reason to deal with the DPNK situation before it gets out of hand.

The Alarmist's picture

Seriously, dude, if you are a citizen of a country that has been prosecuting hot and cold war against a target-nation for nearly 70 years, a nation who dropped more bombs than were dropped in WW2 and thereby killed several million of the target-nation's citizens, a citizen of a country that continues to provoke the starvation of millions more by cutting the target-nation out of international commerce ... if you are the citizen of such a country, you might not want to travel to the target-nation, but if you decide, rather naively to do so, you might not want to be so stupid as to tear down a poster. Warmbier was unfortunate, but for all we know, he tried to hang himself in prison. I can't cry for him because more than a few average Americans have gone there and returned to talk about it, so Warmbier paid for his stupidity with his life.

Your admonition to think of American Otto Bier also reminds me of American Michael Fay, who went on a vandalism spree in Singapore when I lived there in the '90s. Everyone in the US was scandalized that they would cane him for vandalizing cars, but it was normal punishment there. The little shit deserved every lash for not understanding the rules of being a guest in a foreign land and, instead, spitting on his hosts by disrespecting their laws.

I look at what I see with Christianity and Christian values in the US, and I find it hard in terms of sheer numbers to accept that DPRK is #1.

Don't get me wrong, I still love America, I'm just not on board with the solutions it's government has been prescribing to the world for the past few decades, because the results speak for themselves both at home and abroad.

BTW, stop parroting Mark Levin and think through the fact that you are discussing the lives of millions of PEOPLE and not cockroaches.

fel.temp.reparatio's picture

first, i suggest you figure out what the country you seemingly *hate* so much is actually called...

(hint: it's not dpnk you dolt)

MisterMousePotato's picture

Gosh, Gus. You're absolutely right. Thank you. I now understand that we should get into a nuclear conflict with North Korea (and potentially China and Russia, too) because some guy was mean to his girlfriend.

I guess I just needed someone smart to explain it to me.

caconhma's picture

"After North Korea murdered American Otto Warmbier, does anyone in their right mind want to continue to defend DPNK?" The USA has killed millions of innocent civilians in Iraq, Libya, Syria, Vietnam, Korea, just to name few.

"Kim Jong-Un executes defence chief with anti-aircraft guns". So what? It is not our business.

"Kim Jong Un Publicly Kills His Aunt" So what? JFK  and over 50 witnesses were also killed in America and nobody was charged.

PS

Learn English. There are to many misspellings.

kochevnik's picture

I heard he ate yellow cake and throws incubator babies on the floor. And only Trump has right to murder Americans on his kill list

Joiningupthedots's picture

Bless your little cotton socks. You have elevated GULLIBILTY to new levels.

Ubuntuuser's picture

We need a public option in these economic sectors: Banking, health insurance, fresh water, clean energy, housing, space mining, and defense.

The military industrial sector really should be nationalized and run as a state owned enterprise and placed under presidential control. The executive branch should own 51% of shares of military industrial corporations and can fire and appoint CEOs of weapons making corporations that sell to the military.

logicalman's picture

Defense should mean EXACTLY that.

As for MIC, as long as it exists in its present form there will be lots of wars. Changing ownership will not change things.

 

caconhma's picture

You did not work with people from the Pentagon or NASA. They are utterly incompetent, corrupt, and greedy.

HRClinton's picture

What these 60% (82% Republican) need, or perhaps had, is a Surgical Stroke.

Ignatius's picture

Apparently propaganda works.  Maybe that's why they do it.

The Alarmist's picture

No, dude ... we don't merely use it. We mastered it.

Escrava Isaura's picture

Propaganda is the essence of capitalism to control the public mind.  

 

kochevnik's picture

Essence of the Vatican, you Economics 101 dropout

serotonindumptruck's picture

What percentage of the American population would enjoy suffering the consequences of any military action on North Korea?

BlindMonkey's picture

There are 60 % of Americans that should STFU or saddle up, grab a rifle and take care of shit themselves. 

 

This clueless assumption that war will not have consequences has and will continue to get a lot of people needlessly killed.  One day, these couch potatoes will feel the pain and will also likely not be able to see the chain of events that were caused by the US war machine that created the circumstances that caused the pain.

 

Bottom line, you reap what you sow.  Hedge acordingly 

ali-ali-al-qomfri's picture

60% of American can't find North Korea on a map,

40% don't know what a map is.

DollarMenu's picture

Cut them some slack, they find all they need in their I-phone world.