"It's Not Too Late..."

Tyler Durden's picture

Authored by Kevin Muir via The Macro Tourist blog,

One of the great parts of writing this letter is the people I get to meet. Among those I enjoy hearing from is former NYSE floor trader, Clay Tompkins. His years spent on a trading floor gives Clay a certain insight about markets that is tough to describe. It involves a willingness to fade consensus accompanied with a healthy respect for the power (madness?) of the crowd.

Clay sends me tidbits from time to time, with a few wise words that always seem to resonate with me. In the heat of the summer, he started sending warnings about Apple.

Kev, There’s an interesting piece on Novo Nordisk in the WSJ today, about how they improved their insulin and raised prices accordingly, with the result that customers opted for the older, cheaper formulation.


Apple is doing the same, and I think the results will be the same. My daughters scoff at the idea that they or their friends would seriously pay $1100-1400 for the new phone. Andy Kessler called this the “ radial tire” problem, whereby radials, getting 50,000 between replacement killed the bias ply model which needed changing every 12,000.


Buffett and Tepper and all the rest are too rich to get it.


I know your site says “ macro”, but at 3.6% of the S&P, a falling Apple will have real repercussions.

At the time Apple was trading at $161, and few were bearish of America’s largest stock. Then on August 24th, Clay sent another note with a link to a Business Insider article, “Dixons Carhone shares crash over 30% as ‘people hold on to their phones for longer’”. He ended the email with the words, “And they still bid AAPL. I think the longs lose the thread in 3 weeks…”

Well, Clay was almost spot on, only missing the fact that Apple longs had just one more week of gains ahead of them! As soon as September hit, the pink tickets came out for Apple.

Today, most know the bearish Apple story. A disappointing new iPhone announcement, with few new must-have features, has resulted in the lowest pre-orders Apple has seen in quite some time. Clay is on to something, and as usual, way ahead of the curve.

Now some of you will look at the last couple weeks of Apple stock weakness and claim the bad news is already discounted. But I don’t think it is too late to sell. Not by a long stretch.

I know Apple is cheap on a fundamental basis. I know Buffett owns it, and has “never sold a single share of Apple.” Yeah, the PEG ratio is low, but when you reach Apple’s size, it’s difficult to justify a big multiple based on continuing growth. Eventually, you hit a point where growth becomes increasingly difficult. And I think Apple has reached that point.

Yet it’s not just Apple that worries me. Check out this headline.

I realize that eventually even Mark Zuckerberg needs to eat the marshmallow, but let’s not kid ourselves - Zuck is not selling because he needs the money.

There have been a handful of hot tech stocks that have driven this rally of the past few years. The so-called FANG group (Facebook, Amazon, Netflix, Google), along with a couple of other cult favourites (Apple and Tesla), have captured almost all of the speculative fervour.

Along the way, skeptics have been ignored and bearish arguments have not mattered. Dips have just been buying opportunities, and the Nasdaq has led the stock market rally higher. Yet that is slowly shifting. During the last couple of weeks I have noticed that often Nasdaq underperforms the broad market, and it looks more tired than Lindsay Lohan’s probation officer.

Over the weekend, L2 Professor Scott Galloway wrote a must-read piece about the potential inflection point for these tech darlings. Take the time to read it - “No Mercy / No Malice: The Worm Has Turned.

These stocks are a potential disaster in the making. They are over-extended, behaving poorly, have insiders pitching stock, and most importantly, smart, big picture thinkers are for the first time questioning their business models all the while, shrewd, market savvy veterans are leaning on the sell button.

Many a pundit have made fools of themselves calling for the top in the stock market, but I think we are at an important point for the FANG + APPL and TSLA stock crowd. I am by no means a perma-bear, and have at times even reluctantly joined on the bull side. Yet I can’t help but get the feeling that we are close to the point where all the good news for these tech favourites is baked-in.

Don’t believe me that investors might be a little over confident about FANG’s continuing dominance? How about this new ETF?

When they start making levered ETFs that go long one of the FANG stocks (Amazon), while simultaneously shorting its competitors, you know you have reached the point in the party where it is time to look for the door before the cops show up.

I don’t know how I am going to express this view. Maybe I will shift some of my hedges into Nasdaq put spreads. Maybe I will sell Nasdaq futures against a long position in the S&P’s. Maybe I will just short the FANG basket. I just know the time where I want to be long these trendy stocks is long past, and for the bold, writing some short sell tickets is probably the right trade. After all, even Zuckerberg has finally hit the sell button, and according to all the millennials I know, that guy is a genius.

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Long grains: worse than the Casino

My buddy Clay’s prescient call on Apple was the trigger for today’s post, but I wanted to talk about another completely unrelated trade. And the funny part is here too, Clay recently sent me an article that struck a chord. From Reuters:

Large part of Louis Dreyfus’s grains team leaves company


PARIS (Reuters) - A large part of Louis Dreyfus Company’s European grains trading team, including Global Head of Grains David Ohayon, has left the company, trade sources said on Tuesday.


No one was available at Dreyfus for comment.


Several sources also said Cesar Soares, Regional Head of Grains for Europe and Black Sea, and senior trader Pascal Durouchoux had left.


Dreyfus is part of the so-called ABCD quartet of global agricultural traders along with Archer Daniels Midland, Bunge and Cargill [CAR.UL], which have been restructuring in response to falling profits.

In the summer of 1987, Salomon Brothers closed their entire money market division because of lack of profits - after all why bother trading T-bills when stocks were flying? A few months later, the equity crash hit, and money markets went bizerk. Time and time again, the closing of desks, or the leaving of entire teams, signaled a secular low in that asset class.

You can probably see where I am going with this. The trouble is, you have heard me make this argument before. And let’s be honest, grains are not my friend.

In the epic Scorsese film, Casino, Sharon Stone’s character, Ginger, keeps going back to her deadbeat boyfriend, Lester Diamond (played by James Woods), no matter how well she is treated by her husband Sam Rothstein (Robert De Niro). Sam showers her with everything she has ever wanted, diamonds, furs, cars, but it doesn’t matter. Ginger can’t help but return to the loser boyfriend.

Well, grains are my Lester Diamond. No matter how much pain they bring me, I come back like a lost puppy. Now sometimes I managed to squeak out a little win, catching a reluctant fleeting rally. But grains always end up betraying me.

Although I love to remind everyone of Don Coxe’s famous line, “the best bull markets occur when those that know it best, love it least, because they have been burned the worst, I am approaching the point where I am wondering if I should continue picking up Lester’s phone call. After all, don’t the other markets treat me fine? Shouldn’t I be happy putting grains in the rearview mirror?

I have been fortunate to avoid one of the post-GFC’s (Great Financial Crisis) greatest destroyers of wealth - the VXX long trade, but I have replaced it with my own relentless bleeding asset - wheat, and the other grains.

Now before you get too despondent about wheat’s performance, this chart is somewhat misleading. On a relative basis to VXX, wheat is an all-star.

Since the GFC, holding a straight long position in VXX has cost you almost 100%. Wheat, on the other hand, has lost you only 63%.

All kidding aside, grains are my nemesis, and I understand if you ignore my ramblings on the subject. My much-hoped-for secular turn is nowhere to be found, and timing on any blue tickets has had to be near perfect to make any money.

But I refuse to give up on grains. I still believe it to be one of the last true remaining “cheap” assets.

And like an idiot, I am going to tell you why I am buying them again.

This summer we had a little bit of a weather scare, but it lasted for about two weeks before the relentless grain selling returned.

Once again we had a great growing season, and according to the USDA, yields are terrific. The trouble is that many farmers don’t believe the reports, and have been waiting to hedge their crops.

So every tiny bit of a rally has been met with a barrage of selling from offside producers. And that’s why we have melted lower.

Call it spidey-sense, or call it stupidity, but I think it is time to buy the grains again. Almost everyone has given up on this perpetually disappointing asset class. Ag desks are closing, farmers are throwing in the towel, futures traders are loath to even mention the word. Grains are still the last remaining cheap asset, and I am not giving up. After all, grains are one of my true loves, and I know they won’t hurt me again…

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drugranker's picture

At least pharma stocks are not a bubble, I know it because people like to pay 10 times or greater for a drug that is half as effective. Check out http://www.rxrankings.com/datatable/default/chart/zzzHMY# to see the most expensive viagra like thing, almost $2K for 30 tablets, and people prefer that.

tmosley's picture

Good friend of mine who introduced me to Mac in college was long Apple way back then. If he held, he has had a 100 bagger.

Too bad I didn't listen to him on the stock part.

MrSteve's picture

Did you go long Kaypro, Sinclair or Osborne? CPM got kicked to the curb.

Stuck on Zero's picture

Stop calling the FANGS tech stocks. They are web-based merchandising and services companies.

Mtnrunnr's picture

Insanely flawed business models. Adding zero value to anything, just allowing you to market to poorer and poorer people. Amzn is trying to become a tech stock but it diversifying into ridiculous and demonstrably broken industries (smart glasses, grocery chains). There is NO way this works out. We'll either have a single company doing everything poorly because capital holders want it that way or a massive, massive repricing event. I hope its the latter.

AnonymousCitizen's picture

Jeez, I wish I had the attention span to read these long, chart-rich articles.

Iskiab's picture

Article has some interesting ideas, I agree about apple and amazon but disagree about Netflix and google. I'm still long Netflix and google stocks and will buy more when they take a hit in a broader market correction.

Wheat? I don't see it. I don't know much about the market, but with the increase in the popularity of gluten free and a decrease in population I'd say there's a ways for it to drop. It's also a huge market, people trading a commodity can inflate the price but it won't happen in a market that size.

hanekhw's picture

The guy who put that decapitated, bloody corpse in his driveway for halloween came up with this right? Although dumping Apple now before the full extent of their failure with the iPhone X may not be a bad idea. I've read a couple of articles designed to mitigate Apple's lack of innovation highlighting the camera/video system as more advanced that expensive Camcorders but that's not enough to offset the general disappointment.

booboo's picture

Ass crack is starting to show

lasvegaspersona's picture

I read (YouTube actually) the Sony (yes they still make phones) are coming out with a kick ass high speed camera. It can also be used as a phone.

Consuelo's picture



$9/share and the Panopticon sold at auction to FEMA for $.10/dollar (or less)...

Consuelo's picture



And move into the old 4-phase buildings (are they even still there?) and put the Peppermill restaurant back too, and mow down those shit high-rise condo deals and rebuild R. Cali bros. grain silos while they're at it...   All stuff that happily existed when Apple built shit HERE.

Ok I'm done now...





Honest Sam's picture

O.k you can have a cookie.

buzzardsluck's picture

Everything is too late.  Go fuck yourself with a poorly grounded 220V vibrator frier.

ipso_facto's picture

'My daughters scoff at the idea that they or their friends would seriously pay $1100-1400 for the new phone.'

In my experience it is the parents who pay for the new phone.

Endgame Napoleon's picture

I am sure that you are right in most cases, but some would probably buy it for them for Christmas. They have less expensive lines, like the SE. All should include The Pencil.

buzzardsluck's picture

In my experience females will take anything of value given to them while trying to get more.

Endgame Napoleon's picture

A wider color selection would be great, but Apple also needs to include The Pencil with the phone. This is big deal for arty types, including many teenage customers, I suspect. They lose some high-end sales to Samsung because of their S-Pen. With the higher price point, they need to keep those customers.

Vinividivinci's picture

well written article, great graphs, movie screen grabs, etc...
doesn't change the fact that it's BEYOND too late.

tedstr's picture

When I take the rorschack shack test on the VIX chart I see my mother fucking the milkman, but after that I see a clear decending wedge.  for those technically inclined this puppy is about to shoot to the  moon

FreeNewEnergy's picture

This guy is completely wrong on grains. They're the canary in the coal mine that have been signaling deflation for the past five years. They're going lower, along with stocks, bond yields and the meth-head chick down the street.

BadSpybot's picture

Several decades ago I remember wheat around 3 bucks a bushel.  Those were the days you had to draw your charts by hand and phone your order to a broker, who in turn telex an order to the floor.  Could prices hit those levels again?  Anything is possible but there's nothing as thrilling as being long when a crop scare in grains rockets prices limit up for several days. That's the stuff futures traders' dreams are made of.

fulliautomatix's picture

Apple was the hedge fund Hotel. Hedge funds have been cashing in and bailing out - how many so far this year and what value? Apple is at the end of it's (probably unintentional) scheme to mine their own brand for every last bit of residual value - they now need to invest in restoring that value. The indications are that the management of Apple is incapable of doing so.

lasvegaspersona's picture

Few realize that Apple's Tim is the same guy from MONTE PYTHON'S HOLY GRAIL.

Rebelrebel7's picture

I did a painting very similar to the photo in 1998 which was stolen from U.W.M. They were not sitting on the wall, but it was from a tomb site, and they were cloaked and it was in black white and grey.

adolphz's picture

There are a lot of stocks ready to drop. ZH has just been too early. The traders at Shep wave are calling the plays  for now.  Calling gold silver and oil too. www.shepwave.com  

lasvegaspersona's picture

I've heard Shepwave is a SELL!!!

any_mouse's picture

Do you use the Brave browser to visit ShepWave?

Asking for a friend.

lasvegaspersona's picture

I will probably get an iPhone  X....in 2020...or when ever ebay has a scratch and dent sale.

As a certified adult I use my phone for "phone calls" (talking to other people with my voice) or checking sites while on the toilet. Why I'd pay over $300 for a faster phone (I'm not constipated) I can't imagine.

Yars Revenge's picture

I love simple white barcharts with a black background.

luckylogger's picture

How do you know Buffet still owns it?

His sec filing is due out way after his chance top sell.......

Look at GE!!!!!