Trump Tells Tillerson To Stop Negotiating With "Little Rocket Man": "We'll Do What Has To Be Done"

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One day after Rex Tillerson revealed for the first time that the US has been in direct - if secret - contact with the government of North Korea over its missile and nuclear tests, a stunning revelation considering that administration officials have until this point insisted that there has been only limited, indirect contact between the White House and the Kim regime,  Trump, in his latest Sunday morning tirade, tweeted his Secretary of State to effectively stop negotiating with "Little Rocket Man" and to save his energy as Save your energy as Trump will "do what has to be done."

"I told Rex Tillerson, our wonderful Secretary of State, that he is wasting his time trying to negotiate with Little Rocket Man... Save your energy Rex, we'll do what has to be done!"

According to a handful of kneejerk reactions by conflict analysts, Trump's statement is effectively an admission that war appears inevitable as diplomatic negotiations, largely for optical purposes, are doomed to failure. Of course, this could be just Trump's latest attempt at posturing, coupled with a resumption in bilateral escalations with North Korea. It is also a very troubling, and cavalier way to gamble with millions of people's lives.

As reported yesterday, during a press conference on Saturday in China, Tillerson said “we are probing, so stay tuned,” when asked about how he might begin a conversation with Kim Jong-un. Following Tillerson's surprising admission of high level contact with Pyongyang, the NYT compared the secret backchanneling to a strategy used by the Obama administration to help forge what became the Iran deal – a comparison that Tillerson swiftly pushed back against. “We are not going to put a deal together with North Korea that’s as flimsy as the one in Iran,” he said. He added that the situation is different and that the North already has nuclear weapons, while Iran was still years away from obtaining them. 

“We ask, ‘Would you like to talk?’ We have lines of communication to Pyongyang – we’re not in a dark situation, a blackout. We have a couple, three channels open to Pyongyang,” he added, speaking at the residence of the US ambassador to Beijing after a meeting with China’s top leadership. He would not say if the North Koreans had responded, beyond a heated exchange of threats in recent weeks. Trump has repeatedly threatened to “totally destroy” North Korea, while the North has threatened to conduct a nuclear test over the Pacific Ocean, and to shoot down US aircraft flying in international waters if they come uncomfortably close to North Korean territory. 

When asked whether those channels ran through China, he shook his head. “Directly,” he said. “We have our own channels.”Tillerson added that the most important thing was to lower the tensions between the two countries.

"I think everyone would like for it to calm down." Everyone, except for Trump it appears, who is now - at least based on his public tweeting - attempting to sabotage the diplomatic process and proceed right to the next step. Which merely further underscores why, as the WaPo reported last week, North Korea has been quietly seeking the help of Republican-linked analysts in Washington to "figure out Trump."

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SloMoe's picture

Futures limit up?

tmosley's picture

Peanutz STILL haven't read Art of the Deal.

This is Trump walking away from the table. This is how you get the best deal.

BaBaBouy's picture

Looks like Kelly has lost any control he may have had /// Rule By Tweet...

Life of Illusion's picture



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BennyBoy's picture


What could be more patriotic than attacking a 3rd rate country that wont bend to your whim?

Cue the star spangled banner and the pledge of allegiance.

max2205's picture

Trump has had more to deal with in 8 months than obama did in 8 years. Barry would be in a ball crying for help now.... go trump!

Escrava Isaura's picture

You have no clue of what you’re talking about.

Being fake in developing real estate is bad. But, in politics, it can be deadly.

Trump doesn’t understand reputation. Tradition. Different cultures.

It’s poor judgment conducting any policy by ‘intentionally’ misleading.

Sets very bad precedents for the US.

North Korea is just one nation.

All the while Trump still have to negotiate with many other nations.   


War and Fleece's picture

You're explaining to a majority of moronic fuck heads that the vote they made was unwise. This narrative doesn't mesh with theirs and you're automatically condemned.

They cannot begin to wrap that little pink matter splatter around the idea that their CIC will lead them to slaughter.

Good luck and go fuck yourselves.

Cue the down votes you pansy cunts.

Luc X. Ifer's picture

And you are telling them the opposite, that voting the Hilarious Clitoris was the right thing to do, right?

Boubou's picture

True. Since GWB lied so egregiously about wmd in order to invade Iraq, the government and MSM wonder why no one believes a word they say.

Actions have reactions.  

Fish Gone Bad's picture

People who don't read the news are un-informed.

People who read the news are mis-informed.

-Mark Twain

It is all fake news AND they are now better at producing it.  Shit is all over ZH.

vietnamvet's picture

I'll take a knee to that one!

Boubou's picture

Well, better than attacking a first rate country that stand a chance of defending itself.

Bes's picture

good thing we didn't elect an interventionist

with a hard-on for

the Military Industrial Complex

Israel/Saudi Arabia

and the Police/Prison State.


the drums are beating and trump is choosing the rhythm.

but the trumptards and trumpflakes chalk it up to 3D chess.

trump wants his war.  needs his war.  and will get his war(s).

you know trump is watching Spain and he wishes he could do that to anyone who disagrees with his

amazing policy. 

fuck trump and anyone marching us over that cliff.



BlindMonkey's picture

"This is how you get the best deal."


Or 5 million dead.  We will see.

curbjob's picture

"I told Rex Tillerson, our wonderful Secretary of State, that he is wasting his time trying to negotiate with Little Rocket Man..."


Yeah Trump, it's all about you.

If Tillerson was so fucking wonderful, would he need you to tell him that he's wasting his time ?

Escrava Isaura's picture

I think Ivanka should take her dad for some counseling.

What’s the big deal with North Korea?

It’s a poor nation. I think Rhode Island economy is twice their size.

Ohhh! I remember. Geography.

It’s next to China.



Boubou's picture

Nooooh mate. It has a border with Nambia.

Oldwood's picture

So, you REALLY believe Trump's tweet was intended for Tillerson?

No wonder"fake news" works so well.

Bay of Pigs's picture

No, it's intended for peanut brains like tmosley.

tmosley's picture

Nah, I already knew what was going on. The peanutz don't, and thus are easy to manipulate.

Do you fear a war with North Korea? That is what you are supposed to be feeling right now.

curbjob's picture


"So, you REALLY believe Trump's tweet was intended for Tillerson?"

.. so he didn't tell Tillerson that  he was wasting his time ??


Okay, I also assumed that he was lying .

Boubou's picture

The " wonderful " sounds like sarcasm from Trump. Tillerson has had his 10 milliseconds of power. Fired for doing diplomacy.

Matteo S.'s picture

Trump is such a disgrace.

If he kept his promises, he would still be a disgrace, although a good man.

But he is a swamp creature, a warmonger, a cheater, and a disgraceful one at that.

GUS100CORRINA's picture


I really hope we can get to a solution without the massive use of MILITARY ORDNANCE of any kind.

Fiscal.Enema's picture

The sure way to war for little rocket man is to declare a gold standard for North Korean currency

Mustafa Kemal's picture

I suspect that NK HAS read The Art of the Deal.

Giant Meteor's picture

LoL , indubitably ..

Ole Kim is probably thinkin, ahhhh, this is part where he get up and storm out of room  !

Ahhhh, transparency !


Oldwood's picture

And all of our prior "negotiations" and talks have been hugely productive?

Are we simply going to ignore what got us here and pretend that the progressive tact of infinite doubling down of failed policies will FINALLY work?

Shemp 4 Victory's picture


And all of our prior "negotiations" and talks have been hugely productive?

Of course not. The US has still not learned to keep its part of the bargain.

Are we simply going to ignore what got us here and pretend that the progressive tact of infinite doubling down of failed policies will FINALLY work?

Hopefully not. Threats and demands masquerading as diplomacy are a total failure. The US needs to try something completely different, such as honest negotiations, true diplomacy, and keeping its promises.

Giant Meteor's picture

Seems every weekend, usually right about this time, although sometimes on Saturday, we are treated to more North Korea saber rattling .. Frankly what I think or believe on the matter doesn't count for much ..

On the other hand, it also appears, diversions of all sorts are needed to cover for a failing, failed system, and it becomes increasingly more imperative to cast a wide net to the villains, covering for the crimes from within ..

I am neither a never Trumper, nor a Trumpbot . I'm not buying into any of it .. 

I simply see the usual bullshit as just another metaphor for a failed political, social, and economic system, largely in decay, from within not only the confines of the US, but globally , 

We have seen this act before ..

Now I will say, sooner or later, the bill comes due ..


Giant Meteor's picture

Yeah, this real estate deal could go south in a hurry ..

All that aside , 

Fuck it. I'm at a loss for words ..

ebworthen's picture

Good cop/Bad cop routine, love it.

Dirtnapper's picture

Seems Trump has read Sun Tzu's, "Art of War."  He is keeping Fat Boy guessing and off balanced.

Shemp 4 Victory's picture

I doubt that Trump is the type to read books. Had he read The Art of War, he'd have noticed that Sun Tzu instructed to appear weak when you are strong and appear strong when you are weak.

Trump's "fire and fury" Billy Badass routine is a sign of weakness.

tmosley's picture

That is some impressive doublethink you have in that post there. Borders on triplethink.

Shemp 4 Victory's picture

My recommendation for you is some remedial work on singlethink.

Your idol is not the guy we thought we were voting for. But hey, if facts contradict faith, then so much the worse for the facts...

tmosley's picture

I take it you don't understand why your comment above borders on triplethink. Let me break it down for you:

You say that Trump never reads, then you say that he is doing exactly what Sun Tzu says to do (ie the US is, in fact, weak, and thus he is acting strong). That is straight up doublethink. Then you go on to say that Trump's fire and fury speach was a sign of weakness. This is where you border on triple-think, as you sort of imply that the US is actually strong and that it is Trump that is projecting weakness, though you could be claiming that the US is weak and that Trump is following Sun-Tzu and thus pretending to be strong when weak.

Basically, your entire thought process is a MESS.

Shemp 4 Victory's picture


Let me break it down for you

What you have actually done is break down your own convoluted thought process. The only way that you're able to maintain faith in your idol is by painting his actions as some sort of 11-dimensional chess game peppered with plots within plots and conspiracies within conspiracies.

Using the time-honored US citizen tradition of projection, you label as simple-minded plebes anyone who doesn't follow the labyrinthine theories you continue to weave.

tmosley's picture

Hahaha, your cognitive dissonance immunizes you against all facts, including your own.

Thank you for your concession.

Shemp 4 Victory's picture

Note the above commenter's employment of projection as a last resort.

Dismount with fall counted.

ElTerco's picture

Trump could literally carpet bomb the entirety of North Korea with nuclear weapons. In what way is that weakness?

Boubou's picture

Well, it could be, if, for reasons of sanity, or a reluctance to commit mass murder and contaminate the Earth, you really could not carpet bomb with nukes. 

tmosley's picture

Not Kim, but the other members of his regime. Kim knows what is going on very well, as he has proven to be an adept negotiator with his obvious (to anyone who knows about persuasion) pacing of Trump. I strongly suspect that had it been fully up to Kim, this conflict would have ended the day he took office. But it wasn't. He has instead consolidated his power with ruthlessness and efficiency so that high ranking military/party members can't depose him, and has been waiting for an opportunity to end the madness.

In the meantime, it seems that he has been implementing capitalist reforms, allowing farmers markets and such, which has lead directly to an end of the famines that plagued his father and grandfather. Of course, he has done many despicable things, like the assassination/execution of family members, at home and abroad, as well as the perpetuation of gulags and such for those who never did anything against him or even the state. But that seems to all the means to an end, and with Trump, now the end is in sight.

Just has to find a way forward that doesn't include his imprisonment/execution. Trump will be a willing partner for this.

Boubou's picture

He claims never to have read a book. But I expect he colored in a couple along the way.

BarkingCat's picture

That strategy only works with certain people. 

Just like women's tears work on lot of men. Me they piss me off in most cases.


tmosley's picture

Working on some is enough. Gives him, and thus us, an edge.

poland spring's picture

Trump is. One of the best negotiators I know. Keep the enemy always guessing. Go to extreme to get best possible deal. Give the appearance of waffling to keep them on their toes. Send people out to communicate 1 thing, see how they give in or respond, while saying something else. He is a shrewd New York businessman who has been dealing his whole life with all kinds of people. With tyrants, you must speak the language of toughness with a tinge of craziness.