Vegas Killer Used "Bump-Stock" To Create Automatic Fire, Purchased Guns Legally

Tyler Durden's picture

Before any information had been released about the shooter’s identity, or where and how he acquired the arsenal of 42 guns, 23 of which were eventually discovered in his hotel room, one Connecticut senator was already making headlines by exhorting Congress to “get off its ass” and pass gun-control legislation, officially marking the beginning of another contentious chapter in America's perennial gun-control debate.

“This must stop," Murphy said. "It is positively infuriating that my colleagues in Congress are so afraid of the gun industry that they pretend there aren't public policy responses to this epidemic."

 

He added: "The thoughts and prayers of politicians are cruelly hollow if they are paired with continued legislative indifference. It's time for Congress to get off its ass and do something."

Shortly afterward, the White House warned lawmakers not to turn the shooting into a “political debate” about gun control before all the facts have been determined. This turned out to be a prescient, because, as the public would later learn, it appears that Steve Paddock, the shooter, purchased his guns legally.

Paddock, who was described by his brother as a millionaire real-estate investor, had no criminal history nor any history of mental illness. Before purchasing guns from two licensed dealers earlier this year, Paddock passed federally mandated background checks. In an interview with NBC, the owner of a gun dealer where Paddock purchased weapons earlier this year said ATF agents had interviewed the employee who made the sale, and confirmed that the dealer had followed all legally necessary procedures before completing the sales.

David Familglietti of New Frontier said that Paddock purchased a rifle and a shotgun in the spring and that agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives interviewed the employee who handled the sale.

 

"The rifle was not fully automatic, and a shotgun isn't capable of shooting from where he was," Famiglietti told NBC News when asked whether it was possible that the guns were used in the mass shooting.

 

"He's only shopped there once, so it wasn't someone we knew personally," he said.

 

"We're very sad about the news of this tragedy. We're in the business of selling firearms legally and took all precautions on this sale, as we do with all sales. My staff takes their job very seriously, and if there were any 'red flags,' the sale would have halted immediately."

In other words, as much as lawmakers would like to feel like they're taken action to prevent more deadly mass shootings, gun control “improvements” like mandating background checks for all gun sales - a proposal that was championed by Murphy and other Dems following last year’s shooting at the Pulse nightclub – wouldn’t have prevented Sunday's night's massacre.

Separately, the purchasing of fully automatic weapons has been significantly restricted in the U.S. since the 1930s, and was effectively outlawed in 1986 when the federal National Firearms Act was amended to further prohibit the transfer or possession of machine guns by civilians – though there’s an exception for weapons manufactured and registered before the law took effect. With a semi-automatic weapon, a shooter must pull the trigger once for each round fired. With a fully automatic firearm, pull the trigger once and the weapon will fire until the magazine is empty.

In Paddock’s case, tighter restrictions on gun sales likely wouldn’t have made a difference: He used a device called a "bump-stock" to convert semi-automatic rifles into automatic weapons, according to Bloomberg. The bump-stock device essentially replaces the gun's shoulder rest, with a "support step" that covers the trigger opening. By holding the pistol grip with one hand and pushing forward on the barrel with the other, the shooter's finger comes in contact with the trigger. The recoil causes the gun to buck back and forth, "bumping" the trigger.

Technically, that means the finger is pulling the trigger for each round fired, keeping the weapon a legal semi-automatic. Bump stocks, gat cranks and other types of weapons-modification tools exist in a legal grey area; they’re widely sold, but not strictly legal. Paddock had two bump stocks, according to investigators who spoke with the AP under the condition of anonymity.  

The devices have attracted scrutiny in recent years from authorities.

California Sen. Dianne Feinstein has long railed against them. Several years ago, she told The Associated Press she was concerned about the emergence of new technologies that could retrofit firearms to make them fully automatic.

 

"This replacement shoulder stock turns a semi-automatic rifle into a weapon that can fire at a rate of 400 to 800 rounds per minute," she said.

Police have yet to determine whether Paddock purchased the bump stocks legally or not.

Meanwhile, as NBC reports, a second firearms dealer - the owner of a shop called Guns & Guitars -  confirmed to the ATF that Paddock had passed federally mandated background checks.

Christopher Sullivan, general manager of Guns & Guitars, did not say what weapons Paddock, who lived in Mesquite, had bought.

 

"All necessary background checks and procedures were followed, as required by local, state, and federal law. He never gave any indication or reason to believe he was unstable or unfit at any time," Sullivan said in a statement.

 

"We are currently cooperating with the ongoing investigation by local and federal law enforcement in any way we can," he said, adding, "We mourn for this tragedy and our thoughts and prayers are with the families of the lost and injured."

 

At least three other gun shops and ranges in the Las Vegas area said they had been in contact with law enforcement about Paddock but declined to discuss any purchases or visits he made.

Because the federal gun-sales tracing system is woefully out of date, it could be days before authorities determine the provenance of all 23 weapons in Paddock’s arsenal.

After the Pulse shooting, Democratic lawmakers staged a series of sit-ins and other demonstrations meant to draw attention to their push to pass gun control. However, the gun-control measures they were pushing ultimately failed. Already, some lawmakers are demanding another gun-control bill, before police have even determined how Paddock acquired his arsenal. During the shooting, which occurred late Sunday night, Paddock killed nearly 60 people, and injured more than 500, when he started firing from a window on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay resort and casino, at a distance of more than 1,200 feet from his targets - about the length of the Empire State building.

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Son of Captain Nemo's picture

So why isn't anyone saying that this was potentially ISU.S. inspired?

I enjoyed the comment(s) on this read. Especially the fist individual that heard the non-stop machine gun role that lasted for minutes not seconds and contemplated what "they" would have to have to kill and wound as many as "they" did...

https://southfront.org/isis-brand-to-hype-by-death/

SmackDaddy's picture

You know what wasn't on the news yesterday? The 2000 unborn murderred and dismembered in this country every fucking day in the name of "choice".

tmosley's picture

>Bump stock

Well, that explains why the gunfire was slower than normal automatic gunfire.

Occident Mortal's picture

I personally don't see any conspiracy here, this is just a man who snapped.

Go and watch "Falling Down" with Michael Douglas if you want to understand what happened here.

JimmyJones's picture

Well here is the narrative,  make bump stocks and other devices that accomplish the same function illegal. Nice and incremental 2nd ammendment encroachment. 

As always they will address the symptom not the root issue. Not saying this is the root issue but does anyone know if this guy was on a ssri? Aka most antidepressants.

tmosley's picture

tbh, bump stocks aren't for anything but fun. This situation was about the only use for them to start with, as they destroy your aim.

Like trying to fence with a sword made out of floppy runner.

Killtruck's picture

I see the tasteless politicized clucking is already in full-swing, with the "protectmes" taking a cue from Killary's dogwhistle. 

Hey, how many people were shot in Chicago over Labor Day weekend? More than this Vegas "massacre"? How many social media outcries did you hear from the Left on that one? How many laws have they come up with so far to stop black gang members from killing other black gang members? MMM HMMM.

#gawdthesefuckingpeople #letshearmorefromtheuninformed 

Gaius Frakkin' Baltar's picture

This is what happens when you let them control the narrative.

Everyone was wasting time on false flag shit when they should have been turning this guy into a Trump hating antifa or Muslim convert.

Now we have to argue from the weakened position of gun control yet again. Rollbacked politics to 2012. They are laughing their asses off.

You're never going to know the real motive anyway.

Joe Davola's picture

Wasn't there a big row a couple years ago about the government wanting to control 3D printing of the components to make a weapon full auto - and whether possessing the autocad files for such a component ran afoul the ATF?

Billy the Poet's picture

“This must stop," Murphy said. "It is positively infuriating that my colleagues in Congress are so afraid of the gun industry that they pretend there aren't public policy responses to this epidemic."

 

 

I am not the gun industry. I am an American citizen with certain inalienable rights. Be afraid of me if you plan to infringe my rights.

shivura's picture

while we are at it, it's absolutely bullshit that RPGs are illegal...that shit is fun as hell, this is Murica and Ibain't fucking around. If other wack jobs like Haddock are out there who is the government to tell me I can't defend my mom and her amputated leg with any weapon I want.

Billy the Poet's picture

You're right. Government only killed about a half billion people during the course of the twentieth century so obviously folks must put their faith in government and let them have all the guns if we want to be safe.

detached.amusement's picture

You spelled UNalienable wrong

there's a very significant difference

Billy the Poet's picture

Always willing to learn, what is the difference? The following article says they are identical in meaning and that Jefferson used inalienable (and that quote is on his memorial) but Adams had it changed to unalienable.

 

"If you look up the definition of “unalienable” on dictionary.reference.com, you will find that the first definition, when the word is used as an adjective, is “inalienable.” It also says that British dictionary definitions for unalienable define it was “a variation of inalienable.”

The Rough Draft reads “[inherent &] inalienable.” There is no indication that Congress changed “inalienable” to “unalienable”; but the latter form appears in the text in the rough Journal, in the corrected Journal, and in the parchment copy. John Adams, in making his copy of the Rough Draft, wrote ” unalienable.” Adams was one of the committee which supervised the printing of the text adopted by Congress, and it may have been at his suggestion that the change was made in printing. “Unalienable” may have been the more customary form in the eighteenth century."

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2015/07/04/are-our-r...

 

Not my down vote. I appreciate the fact that you brought these variants to my attention.

Manthong's picture

 

Good points above…

I fingered SSRI’s as a likely culprit yesterday and about 10 times more people have been injured and killed in Chicago alone so far this year.

Where is the outrage?

SSRI’s can take a normal and loving person and turn him into a delusional killer psycho if the individual cannot metabolize the drug properly.

 

It's the society and culture that needs to be fixed and cleansed of Marxist, leftist, hedonistic and “progressive” perversions

Normalization of deviant behavior, the profligation of dangerous drugs and diminishment of the Constitution have put us on this downward slope of society.

We can leave this dysfunctional state if we have the will to.

"We are all just prisoners here, of our own device"…
..Last thing I remember, I was
Running for the door
I had to find the passage back
To the place I was before
"Relax, " said the night man,
"We are programmed to receive.
You can check-out any time you like
,
But you can never leave! "

 Hotel California Lyrics - The Eagles | MetroLyrics

Ignatius's picture

Still waiting for proof of this event happened as broadcast.

Go look at interviews with the phony 'witness' named "Cronk," (i.e., smiley).

Look at this guy's 'brothers' reaction.  Talks about "my" mom, not 'our' mom, etc..

Where's the graphic cell phone footage of people shattered by gunfire? (near 600 casualties)

Numbers kept escalating.  Why?

I smell a psyop, gun grab set-up.  If I'm wrong, show me, and I'll shut up.

peanuts's picture

My brother works as a security guard in Vegas, he was there when this shit went down.  He told me that he saw a man who was shot in the head, through one of his eyes, dead,  he saw alot of wounded.  He was directing people where to go as they were running for their lives......I still think it was a false flag that killed and wounded alot of people. I asked him if there was anything about this event he thought was strange before the incident happened and he told me that he was shocked, for an event as large as this that there were no metal detectors being used as concert goers entered the venue and bag checkers were checking these big bags carrying lawn chairs coming in.  

Ignatius's picture

"He told me that he saw a man who was shot in the head, through one of his eyes, dead, he saw alot of wounded."

There should be A SHIT LOAD of video.  Everybody has cell phones these days.

I wanna see evidence, not "I know a guy who knows a guy..."

UpTo11's picture

There were comments about "bump-stocks" early yesterday.  Very interesting how that narrative got out before the evidence.

eforce's picture

In a democracy you will always be on the defensive when it comes to protecting liberty.

Déjà view's picture

3 weeks ago, on 9/11 a mysterious 4chan user who went only by “John” made a series of at the time overlooked posts. He warned users to stay away from any gatherings of large groups of people in the Vegas or nearby Henderson areas. Stating that he had insider knowledge of what he referred to as a “high incident project” that was set to occur soon.

He states this “project” will be done with an endgame goal of passing new laws in Nevada regarding casino security. Making pricey new security screening machines mandatory for all guests. With even further more ambitious plans to follow suit in our schools and other public buildings if the public goes along with the casino machines easily enough. He also specifically names former head of the Department of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff and Casino owner and billionaire Sheldon Adelson as the two men set to profit most off the wave of new regulations set to spring up in response to the Vegas incident. It’s not all that unreasonable even to believe that Mr. Chertoff might seek to profit from a new security panic in the wake of Vegas. Given that the man has already been accused of abusing the public trust by raising security fears among average American’s in an attempt to sell his companies body scanners before, all the way back in 2010.

https://squawker.org/politics/4chanvegas/

ISRAELI SUPER MAX CONDITIONS UPON HORIZON...

Manthong's picture

“I am not the gun industry. I am an American citizen with certain inalienable rights. Be afraid of me if you plan to infringe my rights.”

In my book, that is one of the most succinct and meaningful comments I have read here.

 

ergatz's picture

Anyone who believes a 64yr-old pulled that Vegas stunt deserves to be constantly fooled by the USG. http://bit.ly/28P8q6j

The Alarmist's picture

Bump stock. Yeah, whatever gets you through the night. Sounded like a chain link or gatling to me.

Majestic12's picture

"I smell a psyop, gun grab set-up. "

Here, here!!!

No muzzle flashes or anyone flat on the ground in the "witness" video.

Just a bunch of Sandyhook rehired "crisis actors".

As well the sound of the weapon/s was far too close to be in the Mandalay Bay.

Lastly, over 500 wounded? At that range with a bump stock, he would have had to get off 1,000 rounds statistically.

Let's not forget that as the web is quickly sanitized, there were 3 initial reports of "multiple" shooters in "different locations...

JFK all over again. Look and listen again. Wake up people.

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Nostradumbass's picture

This is something very important to look at and to make Nevada citizens and lawmakers aware of.

Trogdor's picture

Chertoff is Zionist filth. He was responsible for the "Underwear Bomber" incident that got (his) naked body scanners set up as mandatory in every airport. If you hate getting irradiated and felt up by low-life TSA thugs, blame the Zionist Chertoff. For Chertoff and Adleson, murdering a few goy is a price worth paying when they stand to profit handsomely from forthcoming legislation requiring "mandatory" screening that will use his company's scanners.

JSBach1's picture

Some say there are muzzle flashes that are coming from the fourth or fifth floor.  Watch the flashes and listen to the gun fire...

https://twitter.com/OnlineMagazin/status/915197953337384962

https://twitter.com/OnlineMagazin/status/915197953337384962

JSBach1's picture

Here is another video/audio (start at the 28 sec mark to 37 sec mark):

look at the muzzle flashes from the 4th/5th story of the hotel and listen to the rifle rounds

<meta http-equiv="refresh" content="0; URL=https://mobile.twitter.com/i/nojs_router?path=%2F1776PatHenry%2Fstatus%2...">

https://twitter.com/1776PatHenry/status/915031332123586560

<meta http-equiv="refresh" content="0; URL=https://mobile.twitter.com/i/nojs_router?path=%2F1776PatHenry%2Fstatus%2...">

https://twitter.com/gofo_mojo/status/915055175957667840

The Wizard's picture

This is the best evidence I have seen of gunfire coming from a lower floor.

Praetorian Guard's picture

Bump Fire my ass! Those things suck dick. Yea, concentrating on the trigger gap/placement while moving the gun to sweep a target? Sure...

 

More than likely  sear mod on the catch....

 

Come join us for FREE at www.gunsgrubandgold.com 

Trogdor's picture

I can run a bump-fire stock and you would think it was full-auto - HOWEVER - that's just rate of fire. When it comes to actually HITTING something, bump-fire stocks - like most full-auto fire, are just really good ways to turn money into noise.... while completely missing what you were shooting at.

all-priced-in's picture

The audio of the shooting made a lot of people think it was a bump fire device or crank not a full automatic. Lotta people can tell just by listening.

Billy the Poet's picture

It was an obvious possibility as were trigger cranks.

Majestic12's picture

"I smell a psyop, gun grab set-up. "

Here, here!!!

No muzzle flashes or anyone flat on the ground in the "witness" video.

Just a bunch of Sandyhook rehired "crisis actors".

As well the sound of the weapon/s was far too close to be in the Mandalay Bay.

Lastly, over 500 wounded? At that range with a bump stock, he would have had to get off 1,000 rounds statistically.

Let's not forget that as the web is quickly sanitized, there were 3 initial reports of "multiple" shooters in "different locations...

JFK all over again. Look and listen again. Wake up people.

RedBaron616's picture

When bullets are flying and people are scared for their lives, not too many idiots are going to think to pull out their cellphones and film.

Ignatius's picture

We get pictures of everything BUT never graphic pics of real violence...

Always this way at these 'events' -- narratives in place of evidence.

MarsInScorpio's picture

Ignatius:

I'm a mere intellectual simpleton compared to you.

Please, do me and others beneath your 200+ IQ the gracious favor and spell out - entirely - your interpretation of what happened.

Please include players, goals, methods, sub-plots, how this fits into any master plans, how this was put together in terms of the Big Picture . . . please give as a complete narrative with supporting evidence of your professed gnostic analysis.

Thanks in advance for your time, and sharing your intellectual superiority with people like myself who lack your power of epiphany.

Respectfully,

MarsInScorpio

Ignatius's picture

I ask questions, asshole, and let the evidence lead me wherever it goes.  You know, data.

You want a narrative and answers at this early stage, watch CNN or read HuffPo...

Hey, you wanna swallow corporate MSM c#ck, far be it from me to get in your way.

Father ¢hristmas's picture

This is the Sandy Hook syndrome.  No pics but "No, it was real, I know a guy who lived there and his friend's kid died," turns into "I know people who've lost kids/I lost a kid in Sandy Hook, you should be ashamed for even questioning the official narrative!"

There were multiple shooters.  This shit was a false flag and nobody died.

The gubmint was to impoverish everyone and take away their guns.

It's the most accurate explanation because it's the simplest explanation, and it totally makes sense.

Gubmint does everything ass backwards and in an extremely convoluted manner, and this is no different.

sickavme's picture

/sigh...

 

It doesn't matter what he used...

 

PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE, NOT GUNS...

 

As we well know by now: If not a gun, then a BOMB. If not a bomb, then a TRUCK. If not a truck, then a KNIFE...

and so on and so forth...

 

Any of that shit sound familiar? It should: the muzzies are doin it, and doin it well by the way...

 

Leftards and their pathetic feewings politics will get us all fuckin killed... Thank god the dem party is BANKRUPT!

RedBaron616's picture

But thanks to Ryan's idiotic setting on the bill for Reciprocal Concealed Carry, that bill is now dead. Thanks, Ryan. YOU are just one of the reasons I refuse to vote for your loser party. I learned that YOU are the problem, NOT the solution.

greenskeeper carl's picture

Hadn't heard that yet, Im asuming you mean the suppressor bill? They ALWAYS do this kind of shit when its something they don't actually want to pass but want to score political points for looking like they attempted to pass it. Just pass the single item bill, removing suppressors from the NFA. If you want to ALSO try a reciprical carry type bill, type up another one and vote on it.

Trogdor's picture

Nah - there actually was a bill going through that would have set up reciprocity in CC across the country. I don't know the details much beyond that - Ryan the traitorous douchebag killed it.

I DO believe, wholeheartedly, that at least one of the goals of this operation was to kill off the SHARE Act. It had the votes to pass - we'll see if they fold up because the Leftists managed to "create another crisis" to benefit their agenda.

And for anyone who thinks that suppressors would have "made this worse" (as quoted by that cheese-taco'd whore, Hitlery and her brain-dead butt-sucking followers): Suppressors don't make ANYTHING *silent* ("silencers" do not exist). They make the initial report of the gun quieter (not silent) but a supersonic round will still give a nice, loud "crack" - which is what you are hearing in most of those videos. As far as how loud a rifle is when fired with a suppressor, think "firecracker".

UPDATE: Seems that Paul Ryan, Enemy of the People, killed the SHARE Act today. Why am I not surprised?