Trump Proposes IQ Test With Tillerson To Find Out Who Is The Real Moron

Tyler Durden's picture

President Donald Trump could sit down for lunch with a reanimated Albert Einstein and - if challenged - would still boast about being the smartest person in the room.  

Trump reaffirmed in an interview with Forbes that he believes reports that Tillerson once privately called him a “fucking moron” aren’t true. But in any event - just in case - a quick IQ test should be enough to repudiate any lingering doubts about the president’s superior intellect.

He counterpunches, in this case firing a shot at Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, who reportedly called his boss a moron:


"I think it's fake news, but if he did that, I guess we'll have to compare IQ tests. And I can tell you who is going to win."

Moving on from the discussion of the Trump-Tillerson feud that dominated political news last week  (even reportedly overshadowing, in the president’s mind, his visit with victims and their families in Las Vegas following the worst mass shooting in US history), Trump told his Forbes interviewer about a new economic-development bill being formulated by the White House. Trump kept things vague, saying that the bill would punish employers who send jobs overseas while “rewarding” companies that keep jobs here.   

And above all, he sells : "I also have another bill ... an economic-development bill, which I think will be fantastic. Which nobody knows about. Which you are hearing about for the first time... . Economic-development incentives for companies. Incentives for companies to be here."


Companies that keep jobs in America get rewarded; those that send operations offshore "get penalized severely." "It's both a carrot and a stick," says the president. "It is an incentive to stay. But it is perhaps even more so--if you leave, it's going to be very tough for you to think that you're going to be able to sell your product back into our country."

Trump's quest for "validation" a theme that’s been surprisingly consistent throughout his career - inspired him to repeatedly badger the magazine's editors to raise his ranking on its Forbes 400 list.

Numbers offer Trump validation. They determine the winner or loser of any deal and establish an industry hierarchy. It's why Trump, more than any of the 1,600 or so people who've been on The Forbes 400, has spent more time lobbying and cajoling Forbes to get a higher valuation - and validation.

Many of Trump's habits and tactics from his days as a real estate developer have carried over into the White House. One such habit is his fondness for manipulating numbers to exaggerate his performance, as he candidly explains to Forbes.

He also uses numbers as leverage, a way to set parameters and eventually declare victory. Back when he bought the New Jersey Generals of the United States Football League in 1984, he reportedly described his bidding style to his fellow owners thusly: "When I build something for somebody, I always add $50 million or $60 million onto the price. My guys come in, they say it's going to cost $75 million. I say it's going to cost $125 million and I build it for $100 million. Basically, I did a lousy job. But they think I did a great job."


According to Trump, that trick explains the current proposal to cut the corporate tax rate to 20%, after months of saying he wanted to go even lower, to 15%. "I was actually saying 15 for the purpose of getting to 20," he says, adding, "As you know, this will be a negotiation for the next 30 days. But I wanted the 15 in order to get to 20."

Trump – who just yesterday was branded “the president without a party” by the Wall Street Journal – has been roundly criticized by his fellow Republicans for his willingness to work with Democrats. But, as Forbes explains, in Trump’s mind, the Democrats are just another “bidder” to use as leverage against his enemies in the Republican party. 

One bid, however, isn't enough. In a transactional mindset, when the person across the table is a competitor rather than a partner, the best terms come from creating multiple bidders. Which explains his sudden fondness for Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, whether on the debt-limit increase, immigration proposals for Dreamers (at least briefly) or health care. "I think the Democrats want to make a deal," says Trump, referring to Obamacare. "At the same time, I think I have a deal with the Republicans. So I have the best of both worlds. That's business to a certain extent... . I'm very able to make deals with Democrats if I have to." The specter of playing each side off the other also looms over tax negotiations. "We'll be talking about all of it. You know, it will be a very serious set of negotiations going on over the next period of time."


Of course, those who don't see eye-to-eye with the president will feel his Twitter lash: Ask Ryan ("does zilch!"), McConnell ("get back to work"), Schumer ("Cryin' Chuck"), Lindsay Graham ("dumb mouthpiece"), Elizabeth Warren ("Very racist!"), John McCain ("dummy!") or approximately 1,000 others in the past year who have had the temerity to stand up to the president. Much as these digs seem personal, in truth he's just sticking with a business tactic he's long employed. Again, from The Art of the Deal: "I'm the first to admit that I am very competitive and that I'll do nearly anything within legal bounds to win. Sometimes, part of making a deal is denigrating your competition."

To summarize the interview, in Trump’s world, internecine warfare is cast as healthy competition; numbers are marketing tools to be manipulated and the IQ test is the single greatest tool for quantifying intelligence. And, in this particular case, there's no public disagreement that a quick flash of his Mensa membership card wouldn't settle.

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Hopeless for Change's picture

Should be mandatory to "serve" in Congress

sickavme's picture

Dude, this shit is getting out of hand...


All you politicians need to shut the fuck up already and get to work!

847328_3527's picture

Include Maxine Waters in that test taking.

Better yet, give all these people Lie Detector tests instead.

YUNOSELL's picture

Trump may very well have higher IQ, but at the same time he is definitely more emotional and this is not always good when rational negotiations which could affect the life and death of billions of people in the world are at stake

dasein211's picture

Doesn’t have a higher IQ i guarantee that shit. Trump is a fucking 2 year old retard on his best day.

Killtruck's picture

Well, at least your comment comes with a guarantee!

Ajax-1's picture

One has to wonder about the warranty pursuant to a libtard "Guarantee"

covfefe MICdotard's picture

How about a round of CELEBRITY JEOPARDY (for politicians)...


The pilot episode could be


Maxine Waters

Hank Johnson

Turd Ferguson

TheLastTrump's picture

Turd :) I've been thinking about him the last couple days.


Remember when 'ol Bay of Pigs was mad as a hatter at Turd for booting him off TFMR?


ahahaha that went on for a looooong time, BOP acting like Yosemite fucking Sam anytime Turd was mentioned ahahaha

Yosemite Sam - I Hates Rabbits
covfefe MICdotard's picture

I only nominated Turd Ferguson because, whether anyone likes it or not, that was some funny ass s***

PrayingMantis's picture

... meanwhile, forensic acoustic analysis confirms the FBI is the real moron ... >>> ...

... this forensic acoustic analyst says there was a second shooter and his analysis could be correct ...


Escrava Isaura's picture

tmosley below: Trump lied…..What lies of importance did he tell? 

I will give you four of his promises/lies that he’ll never accomplish. And you can hold me to those:

1) Grow the nation's economy by at least 6 percent.

2) Cut the budget by 20 percent by simply renegotiating.

3) Provide more funding for drug treatment

4) "We're going to win so much -- win after win after win -- that you're going to be begging me: 'Please, Mr. President, let us lose once or twice.”


Below you can follow Trump’s lies yourself:


pods's picture

Wow, a president with Little Man Syndrome, what could possibly go wrong?


IH8OBAMA's picture

Ah ha ha ha ha ha. An IQ contest between the President and his staff! Oh ha aha ha ha.  What does the winner get?  The right to call foreign policy? ha ha ha ha ha.  Whew.  Ah ha ha ha ha ha.


IH8OBAMA's picture

And, I get a down vote for laughing!!!  Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Lost My Shorts's picture

Trump reminds me of what chicks often say about their unreliable boyfriends -- "He makes me laugh."  I never took seriously the concept of "food and beverage warning" but this item made me literally spit milk all over my mouse, and that was during the third outburst of uncontrollable laughter.

The Trump Whitehouse has become like a middle school student council.  And poor Rex Tillerson, the guy's a hero to endure it.  The tell-all books that will come out of this presidency will set a new record for entertainment.

Not that it's a bad thing.  The US is disintegrating internally, and sinking economically under the weight of unpayable debts and unproductive activity.  It can't be the "reliable" world cop in the future, and won't be, no matter what.  The sooner the rest of the world realizes that, and starts taking care of itself, the better.  It's inevitable, and if Trump forces the world to deal with it sooner, it would count as a major accomplishment.

beemasters's picture

Question 1:
What is the adverb for "Big"?

covfefe MICdotard's picture

n-n-nothing that I can tell

tmosley's picture

You have a very strange concept of what a "lie" is. He has been working to do all of that.

And you don't see the winning because you are a communist loser.

VictoryOrDeath's picture

Are you omniscient or perhaps psychic Escargot?  Can you see an additional 3-7 years into the future?  How can something be a lie if an appropriate amount of time has not transpired to allow such stated lies to come to fruition?  He's already helped to drive a GDP mark higher than O-bum in the first few months of office versus 8 years of endless doldrum.  He's already negotiated more and/or threatened other countries regarding unfair trade practices in the first few months than all 8 years combined for the aforementioned d-bag.  He's already mentioned and will continue to seek reducing unfair pricing practices of the same drug between other countries and the U.S.  And lastly, you're quoting a joke as a lie?  That's really desperate, even for you.  As Mr. T would say, "I pity the fool!"

Captain Chlamydia's picture

I've got an IQ of 146. I bet I beat all of Congress. And the last 10 presidents. And 95% of the population. 

Snípéir_Ag_Obair's picture

Then you appreciate that Trump here has said another thing he has no intention of following through with.

He'd lose bigly.

Trump was born on 3rd base and the Trumptards think it means he's a great hitter.

One can argue he was an ostensible better choice than Hillary, and I'd agree, but once you've got people claiming he's more intelligent than Einstein, you have to stand in awe of how well marketing trumps substance.

pods's picture

IMHO, the more someone tells you how smart they are, the more you can disbelieve them.

The quiet ones who have excellent listening skills tend to be the smartest ones.

I guess POTUS is dumbing down his speaking abilities for the great unwashed masses?  He sounds borderline retarded when I hear him talk.


Ristretto X4's picture

"He sounds borderline retarded when I hear him talk."


On occasion, you sound well reasoned. Today you sound "borderline retarded."

Obloblo sounded on point and articulate at the mic. He was/is a mouthpiece for his handlers from Chicongo, hence he was chosen to represent their poisonous socialist, i.s., blm views.

Trump talks like common folks and it is refreshing. You can have the articulate liar from Kenya, I'll gladly choose the inarticulate American who loves this country!

Ristretto X4's picture

"He sounds borderline retarded when I hear him talk."


On occasion, you sound well reasoned. Today you sound "borderline retarded."

Obloblo sounded on point and articulate at the mic. He was/is a mouthpiece for his handlers from Chicongo, hence he was chosen to represent their poisonous socialist, i.s., blm views.

Trump talks like common folks and it is refreshing. You can have the articulate liar from Kenya, I'll gladly choose the inarticulate American who loves this country!

covfefe MICdotard's picture

The way I've come to see it, the smartest one are the ones who the dumber ones try to silence by way of attempts at censorship.


It's kinda like a REVERSE GRESHAM'S LAW applied to broadcast journalism offerings & insights that have to do with socioeconomic insights rather than plain coinage)


Happens all the time (I can acount for at least 42 instances off the top of my dome).

pods's picture

The word for the day is tenacity. :)

HopefulCynical's picture

Remember when 'ol Bay of Pigs was mad as a hatter at Turd for booting him off TFMR?

What in the actual fuck are you talking about? I know Turd Ferguson from SNL, but what's all this other stuff?

Bay of Pigs's picture

He’s referring to me bro.

Turd Ferguson (Craig Hemke) of the TFMR website posted here at ZH under that handle before starting his own blog.

HopefulCynical's picture

Thanks. I asked the Internet what TFMR meant, and it told me "termination for medical reasons;" that didn't sound right.

covfefe MICdotard's picture

For the record, I was referring to the REAL Turd Ferguson (Burt Reynolds).

Bay of Pigs's picture

LOL. I sent Turd a couple of emails to patch things up but he never got back to me.

My beef was always with his moderators. Some were batshit crazy. Can you imagine having those types of people controlling the threads here? ZH would die immediately.

remain calm's picture

I think IQ matters but more important is critical thinking. That is, kind of what a chess player needs, the ablity to the the consequences 3-7 effects down the road. That is the guy you want. Most of these polititians would lose at Tic Tac Toe

dasein211's picture

Voted for Ron Paul thrice asshat. Don’t assume all independents/conservatives are Trump cucks. I know a retard when I see one.

TheLastTrump's picture

Boom! A PaulBot that voted for him 3 times.


I met a nice older couple on the coast last year. They were PaulBotz, and retards. I finally extricated myself politely and left, but my ears were bleeding & hurt to this day.


giorgioorwell's picture

LOL, what a bluffing retard. Has Trump ever taken an IQ test?  Bluffing might work in the world of shady real estate (although not for TRUMP Soho which is still a failed project) and reality tv, but not on an IQ test.

There's a large language component to the IQ test in addition to math, problem solving and spatial awareness, there's no way his vocabulary of a 6th grader would rank him anything higher than a 105.



eftian's picture

IQ can often be estimated or correlated by some standardized test such as the SAT or ASVAB. So you can look at his admission to  U of PENN  and Wharton(1500ish SAT req, near max at the time) and take an educated guess its pretty high.

Ignatius's picture

Tillerson:  "Can't we just wip out our dicks instead?"

Geezus, this shit is tiresome.

layman_please's picture

try to search twitter for "moron". the first result is the actual account of the POTUS (not some news article about him). fuck me if that's an accident. this is programmed if not inserted directly by somebody in twitter.

edit: okay, today the first result is a news article because it is back in the news. yesterday this was not the case. screenshots from yesterday in the gab link.

Oldwood's picture

Trump's attackers here sound worse than what they claim Trump IS.

Fight club devolves into a shit toss again. Pretty apparent of our education system's failure to teach debate skills 

Do they even have debate courses, or is it simply lessons on shouting down your opposition and then running for a safe space upon retort? Maybe set a car on fire as a distraction.

dasein211's picture

I’ll GLADLY debate you oldwood.

TheLastTrump's picture

You just did, and you lost badly.


Now sit down and shut the fuck up, poseur.

Eyes Opened's picture

Donny reckons his is 12" ... but he doesn't use it as a rule....   :-)