Vegas Massacre Timeline Changes Again

Tyler Durden's picture

Authored by Carey Wedler via TheAntiMedia.org,

Earlier this week, police investigating the Las Vegas shooting made headlines when they changed the official timeline of events in the deadly massacre on October 1.

 

They had initially reported that gunman Stephen Paddock shot Mandalay Bay security guard Jesus Campos after he fired into the crowd at the Route 91 Harvest Festival. Campos was credited with stopping the attack. This week, the Los Angeles Times further summarized the original timeline:

In a timeline released last week, investigators said Paddock had stopped firing at the concert across the street at 10:15 p.m., and the first police officers arrived on the floor at 10:17 p.m. and encountered the wounded Campos at 10:18 p.m., who directed the officers to Paddock’s suite.

This summary came from a report released Monday of this week when the official story first changed. This week, Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo announced Paddock had fired on Campos at 9:59 pm, a full six minutes before the attack began — not after he stopped shooting into the crowd. This created new questions as to why Paddock stopped firing on concertgoers considering it apparently was not a result of Campos diverting his attention.

Now, just days later, police have again changed their timeline, clarifying that Paddock did not actually shoot Campos six minutes before the rampage began.

The Chicago Tribune reports that amid claims from the MGM Hotel Group that contradict the second timeline offered Monday, authorities altered their sequence of events.

The Tribune noted that new questions surrounding the shooting have centered on the law enforcement response and the timeline, which had been changed multiple times and challenged by MGM Resorts International, the Mandalay Bay’s owner.

The outlet explained further:

Lombardo had said on Monday that Campos, the guard, was shot at 9:59 p.m. and that the mass shooting began at 10:05 p.m., lasting for 10 minutes. This six-minute gap relayed by Lombardo left uncertain whether there was any lag in alerting police to the source of the gunfire during critical moments. Police said they arrived on the 32nd floor at 10:17 p.m., after Paddock had stopped firing.

 

“MGM, though, said it was ‘confident’ that the 9:59 p.m. time was inaccurate and ‘was derived from a Mandalay Bay report manually created after the fact without the benefit of information we now have.’ The company also disputed the suggestion of a lag and said the mass shooting began within a minute of Campos being shot on the 32nd floor.

According to a statement from MGM:

We know that shots were being fired at the festival lot at the same time as, or within 40 seconds after, the time Jesus Campos first reported that shots were fired over the radio.”

The Tribune summarized Lombardo’s most recent explanation:

Upon investigation, [Lombardo] said, police learned that Campos first encountered a barricaded door on the 32nd floor at 9:59 p.m., and that he was fired upon by Paddock ‘in close proximity to’ 10:05 p.m., when police say the mass shooting began.

 

“’He attempted to relay that information via his radio and it was confirmed because he also relayed that information via his cell phone,’ Lombardo said. ‘So the timeline associated to both of those sources have been verified.’

The sheriff did not specify when police were informed of the security guard’s report, saying on Friday that he was “absolutely offended” by allegations of incompetence within the department, and said that the shifting timeline was a result of the vast scope of the investigation and not an attempt to mislead anyone about the circumstances of the attack.

“This is a very dynamic event,” he said.

 

“A very big event. Thousands of people involved - humans involved - in documentation.”

Earlier in the week, Lombardo expressed frustration at questions over the changing timeline.

Nobody’s trying to be nefarious, nobody’s trying to hide anything, and what we want to do is draw the most accurate picture we can,

Daniel Oates, who served as police chief of Aurora, Colorado, when James Holmes opened fire on a movie theater in 2012, defended police’s changing story.

I see this as being ridiculously hard on the people who are trying to get information out, get the totality of that story,” he said. “This stuff takes time.”

 

The Tribune reported that experts “cautioned that it can take time for even basic information about what occurred during events like the one in Las Vegas to come together” (though, in that article, the outlet did not identify specific experts beyond Oates).

Either way, the jumbled timeline continues to draw questions and skepticism, exacerbated further by reports at the end of this week that Campos ‘disappeared’ shortly before he was scheduled to appear at a press conference on Thursday.

The report is circulating mostly in right-wing corners of the news media; it was reported by Fox News and has been re-reported by several other right-leaning outlets. The general story appears to have been confirmed by ABC journalist Stephanie Wash, who tweeted Thursday evening: “Media scrum tonight as we learn security officer shot in Vegas attack, Jesus Campos’ whereabouts are unknown.”

Jesus Campos was set to do 5 intvs tonight per union president, but they’ve lost contact. ‘We were in a room & we came out & he was gone,’” she also tweeted.

An independent journalist reported on Twitter that Campos’ family is under a gag order, however that remains unconfirmed.

Despite an influx of criticism and claims of cover-ups, Lombardo insists they are simply doing their best to relay information to the public and gather information and suggested the timeline could continue to change.

“There is no conspiracy between the FBI, between LVMPD and the MGM, he said this week.

 

Nobody is attempting to hide anything in reference to this investigation. The dynamics and the size of this investigation requires us to go through voluminous amounts of information in order to draw an accurate picture.

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The Dreadnought's picture

Holy shit, what a cover up.

MagicHandPuppet's picture

"... and to prove there is no cover up, we're keeping all of the confiscated surveillance video footage hidden, away from the public!"

Sincerely,
The Ef Bee Eye

SWRichmond's picture

B B BBB BB B But...HARVEY WEINSTEIN!!!!

Occident Mortal's picture

I’m sure the Police are just as understanding when regular people change their story again and again.

espirit's picture

Give us some red meat.

Audio analysis of shot count.

Ballistic evidence.

In one article, it was said over 1000 pieces of evidence were retained - and- in the same Paddock fired 1000 rounds.

Huh?

God Emperor's picture

Forget about Vegas false flag and here have some aftermath after joorrican Harvey has passed through Holywood.

Dylan Penn Leaked Nudes

http://celebrity-leaks.com/dylan-penn-leaked-nude-rubbing-her-shaved-pus...


El Oregonian's picture

"The Mandalay Bay Hoax" Take #4... Places everyone.

Rapunzal's picture

There are 4 bills ready to eventually force Americans out of owning guns.
It's unbelievable, they use a government organized false flag. The bills have been in the works for a long time already.

https://youtu.be/2Ho4te5KB_U

They need to get those 4 bills passed before the economic collapse. Some of those bills have a 5 year window. But you can be assured in the next crisis they will come for our guns.

HRH Feant2's picture

Ding ding ding we have a winner.

It doesn't matter what happened in LV. It is the end result that matters and the end result is to take guns from people.

Period.

07564111's picture

""It doesn't matter what happened in LV""

Yep ;)

This 'story' has all but disappeared from the news in the rest of the world. We all understand the news cycle and that things move from page 1 to pages 3 and beyond, but given the supposed seriousness of the crime it's a odd that's it's no longer interesting.

I guess that in the USA there are also some ( this Sheriff in particular ) that would like this to disappear, he looks less than happy with his job. ;)

bamawatson's picture

idle gossip, and real dates, attempt to connect this guy to paddock & vegas; who knows?

msm has given this story zero coverage; may well be nothing

http://wjhl.com/2017/10/03/court-documents-describe-johnson-city-man-with-weapons-ammo-as-unsteady/

worth a look

Donate Moar's picture

Whatever.

Sounds like my neighbor.  Drives around with AK and AR and boxes of ammo in his truck.  Was always the goto guy for 4th of July and New Year's fireworks.  Pissed off his Dad by blowing holes on farm property that would fuck up the tractor.  Crazy guy, but the law doesn't care...until the law cares...70 minutes later.

 

Moving and Grooving's picture

Hey, welcome back! Nice new account!

espirit's picture

Got a new one!

FBI is butthurt they couldn't intercept the Mex Fetynyl(sp?) stopped in Nebraska, so they put the LVPD face on this one.

Probably multiple agencies competing for the big prize, which explains the 'greater good' gag order on 500 wounded witnesses.

Paddock was a diversion, but for whom?

JSBach1's picture

According to a witness, who was the Bellagio, which is approximately 1.4 mile north of the Mandalay Bay, she witnessed shots fired and a stampede of terrified people all rushing inside the Bellagio -- about 45-60 mins (23:00-23:15 local time) AFTER the last confirmed shot (22:17 see ZH this article) was fired from the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay supposedly by Paddock. Police did not breach Paddock's room on the 32nd floor until 23:20; could this be the reason for the delay: until all others reported shots at various locations subsided? (see link; credit for this link to a different ZH'er from the previous Vegas thread)

https://www.bitchute.com/video/f3y8924sKZI/

Here is a link that ties all of the reported shots fired based on the scanner audio with mapped location:

https://steemit.com/conspiracy/@budz82/las-vegas-shooting-police-scanner...

Other links to the video in the Bellagio:

http://canadafreepress.com/article/shots-fired-at-the-vegas-bellagio-on-...

"Edit 19 – Shot fired at Bellagio. AUTOMATIC FIRE COULD BE HEARD ON THE SCANNER."

http://investmentwatchblog.com/breaking-terrorist-attack-in-las-vegas-ma...

"Paddock unleashed bullets on concertgoers for about 10 minutes. The police didn't get to Paddock's suite until 10:17 p.m. They didn't breach the room until 11:20 p.m., after a SWAT team arrived with explosive charges, Lombardo said."

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/13/us/las-vegas-shooting-investigation/index....

BennyBoy's picture

 

Thank MGM Resorts International for standing up to the official story.

And why the fuck did it take so many days for the sheriff stooges to confim it?

MagicHandPuppet's picture

I watched this really decent analysis by Sargon of Akkad that I recommend.  It's a couple of days old, but he addresses a lot of the inconsistencies of the official story while keeping an objective perspective.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3y8924sKZI

If you haven't heard of Sargon of Akkad, his objective perspective may be a breathe of fresh air.  He plans to release additional analysis videos as more information and evidence surfaces.

WordSmith2013's picture
HARVEST Massacre of Patriots:
A False Flag and Partial Hoax
Where More Were Killed and
Wounded Than Reported

 

http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=86203

 

"This Vegas attack was REALLY complicated ... ... ... by purposeful design!"

espirit's picture

If anyone followed the 'Montana Cowboy' comments after 12:01 am EST, please reiterate.

Seems from my end they have been wiped after page 9 of comments but the log shows more.

All inquirys return to page 1.

SafelyGraze's picture

and they said, behold, Jesus has been taken up and is no longer among you.

and he said, "until I have put my hand into the bullet hole, I will not believe"

WaterWings's picture

It would.be interesting to find out who was was watching it all unfold from the Luxor. Front row seats sold to the highest bidder.

JSBach1's picture

@MHP

I've linked to the same video (first link) up a bit higher in the thread. I, too, agree the presentation is objective and relies on just the evidence that is available. My only disappointment with his presentation is that he did utilize the cabbie video which is authoritative in dispelling two points:(1) that there was only a single shooter, and (2) that the distant sound was a result of an echo when compared to the closer louder bursts of gun fire.

MagicHandPuppet's picture

@JSBach1,

Ah, you did.  Awesome.  I hadn't been to Sargon's bitchute channel before.

I haven't quite come to the same conclusion as you yet, it seems.  I don't dispute that there could have been another shooter. But, after watching the cabbie video a number of times, as well as some others, I am not yet convinced of absolute proof of a second shooter.  To my ears, a lot of audio clips which many have pointed to as proof of a second shooter sounds more like the collision of sound waves from both 1) the lower frequency of the source of shots from a significant distance (as lower frequencies travel much greater distances, etc.) and 2) the higher frequency pops and snaps caused by some of those rounds striking objects closer to the person recording the audio/video.  As I listened to the two sounds, though the consistencies differed (not all rounds hit the same object nearby, for example), the duration between rounds (their cadence) sounded consistent to my ears.

I'm very suspicious of the official story and open to the possibility a second shooter (or more).  I just haven't seen or heard undisputable proof yet.

Is there a specific part of a video that you can share which indisputably debunks the single shooter theory?  Thanks!

MagicHandPuppet's picture

Thanks @poop!  Good stuff.  Watching now.

JSBach1's picture

The best evidence just to the naked ear is in the first minute and thirty seconds from the cabbie video. It begins first a burst of loud close gunfire followed by distant gunfire (some have pasted it of as echo, but it is not (see second/third link). But the irrefutable evidence at 45 secs when you hear distant fire first, then it is followed by at 1 min 5 sec with much louder closer fire (ie echoes do not come before louder fire)

Cabbie video:

https://youtu.be/fEf7HObspB0

Cabbie video analysis seems to point to 3 shooters:

https://youtu.be/TMKeYRxQEQw

Really impressive analysis with slow motion at varies speeds:

https://youtu.be/hoQpVXBUDbE

MagicHandPuppet's picture

Thanks @JSBach1!  Yes, indeed.  That's what I needed.  Multiple shooters indeed.

DeadFred's picture

The sheriff is offended by accusations of incompetence because there was so much info how could we expect him not to have errors. That's why you're supposed to confirm your facts before you report random crap. If you don't do it you're not acting competently.

Debt-Is-Not-Money's picture

How would you act if there was a big sourpuss FBI agent (lapel pin) standing behind you waiting for you to fuck-up so that he could wipe you out, your family, your dogs, cats, neighbors, etc.?

SybilDefense's picture

Heyseus shot at 9:59:43 (but that was only a guesstimate)

"Police came at 10:17, swat at 11:20 with explosives." Duh, he had the door locked, silly. I guess heyseus (if that really is his name) bolted with the pass key, so may as well let the hail fire continue for an extra hour.

 

  This is less about gun grab then it is to support the bill to remove do not disturb signs and locks from public hotel rooms so the gestapo can have full access to address the anti NWO rabbelrousers.

In summary, wtf?!

Socratic Dog's picture

The door through which 200 rounds had just passed?  Explosives needed?

gatorengineer's picture

wounded witness gag order..... got a link for that, I believe it I would just like to see it.

espirit's picture

Not like them to advertise that.

Besides, they learned from the Pulse Nightclub shooting. Anybody and everybody had their hand out online for donations...

Follow up on our own 'Montana Cowboy'.

yarpos's picture

For the rest of the world its just another US mass shooting.  Ho hum business as usual,  why should they give a shit?

The rest of the world cares even less about conspiracy and false flags,  so yes not even on the radar.

SybilDefense's picture

The louder the voice of the peoples who place little value on life, the less valuable life becomes to the allotted voice of the people.  I.e. if you listen to folks from Chicagehetto, people are desensitized to murdee, and it's PC to listen to them more then the folks who aren't killing each other.  Equality is one of those things that has to be earned to be valued, not gifted.  Just because you are bussed to a new school or better neighborhood, doesn't immediately make you less of a murdering thug.  But hey BLM, so give them the pulpit.  

Garbage in garbage out folks.

Rapunzal's picture

The international press are all working together. They don't want their citizens realize it's about disarming citizens. Once the people wake up around the world to the fact the parasitic elites will let the economy crash and a major depopulation agenda will follow. They will understand why an armed population is so important.
Here the people are still armed and they are forced after so much rebuttal from the people to set this story straight, they try but it gets worse and worse.

Implied Violins's picture

I expect a few more false-flag attacks at least as big as this one, supposedly carried out by random 'grey men' like Paddock, followed by a total repeal of the second amendment.

These bastards want a civil war, and they won't stop until they have gotten one. Do not underestimate what they are capable of, and that includes the most evil thoughts you can imagine.

Prepare accordingly.

MANvsMACHINE's picture

They would certainly like a repeal of the 2nd but that's not going to happen.

I don't believe Trump would go for it in his first term. Could do an about face in his second.

Withdrawn Sanction's picture

The President has no role in the amendment process, other than the Secretary of State certifying to the Congress that the requirements for proper amendment (2/3s of the state legislatures approving, etc.) have been met.  Since, once started, the amendment process has no time limit, that could be ANY future SOS. 

Any statute contrary to the Constitution (incl. its amendments like the 2nd) is no law at all.  That means you and I are under obligation to comply regardless of what ANY court, cop, legislator, or bureaucrat says.  "How do you know it's unconstitutional (implication:  no court has so ruled)?" "Because I can read." 

I have always admired the ordering of the amendments.  The first, protecting the right to free speech, religious freedom, free press, free assembly, and to petition for redress of greivances, is the peaceful rational route to controlling government.  While the second, protecting the right of self defense, is the muscle, when and if the first fails for whatever reason.

 

WillyGroper's picture

lets go out a few rings from the FF & the perv as to what these distractions are really about, shall we?

Field McConnell was on CTM & stated the end of the fiscal year was 9-30 & the reset was supposed to happen 10-2.  he gives this as the reason.

Judge Anna von Reitz says:  by 6-2018 we will be ruled by the UN.  recall all the hub bub about djt not finishing his term?

now if you REALLY want to set your hair on fire, check out AVR's ditty on the IRS & just how they get away with what they do.

http://annavonreitz.com/46000arrests.pdf

it's going to take the boys with access to the big toys to stop this, or we're fkd.

 

junction's picture

 Paddock had 17 assault rifles in his hotel rooms.  Yet, so far, there is not one report in the news of any witnesses who claim they saw Paddock at a gun range or anywhere else practicing firing his newly acquired weapons.  Paddock, like Barry Seal, was an asset of the CIA.  I would not be surprised to read that Paddock was also a narcotics transporter for the CIA, with the pay for being a drug trafficker financing Paddock's degenerate gambling habit.  

 

Whoa Dammit's picture

Take a look at the photo of the gloves Paddock was wearing. They look like those thick cloth gloves that cost about $1 at the hardware store and are typically used when pushing a wheel barrow or digging a hole with a shovel. I don;t know how anyone could shoot a gun with them on. I have been told that shooting gloves usually have open fingers. Thoughts from the gun savvy ZHers?

http://metro.co.uk/2017/10/04/las-vegas-shootings-pictures-from-inside-s...

 

Handful of Dust's picture

When will the sheriff and fbi start to blame Putin?

Mr. Universe's picture

What do you want them to do blame the See Eye Aye?

It's almost as if they are poking the effinbeeeye right in the eye everytime they unleash one of their little gems.

I Quit's picture

I thought the same thing. Told my husband this. He has garden gloves on that would be "slippery" unless they have the grippy stuff on the inside.   I like how the RIFLE  is placed right over his left foot and ankle. Not disturbed at all.  

 

How does the revolver ALREADY have a blood smear on it??????

Sneaker98's picture

Another interesting point from the photos in that link is the pic of the door to his room. I assume that the missing door was supposedly removed by the cops "as evidence", being the one that the patsy supposedly shot the security guard through. 

The remaining door has no visible bullet holes. So he fired 200 rounds at that one door, and not a single round strayed away and hit the other door. That seems unlikely.

JSBach1's picture

If you look at the lower half of what remains of the door at least three bullet holes are visible; the question remains are those entry or exit holes?