In Bizarre Feud, Trump Denies Disrespecting Army Widow As Mother Says President Lies

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For the second time in 24 hours, President Trump again pushed back against reports that he crassly told the widow of one of the US Green Berets killed in an Al Qaeda ambush in Niger two weeks ago that her husband “must have known what he signed up for”. In response to a reporter’s question following a press conference with Republican senators that was intended to focus on tax reform, Trump again accused Democratic Rep. Frederica Wilson of lying after she spoke to CNN and the Washington Post about Trump's comments

“I didn’t say what that congresswoman said – didn’t say it at all — she knows it,” Trump told reporters. “I would like her to make the statement again because I did not say what she said."

The comments followed an early  tweet by Trump in which the president claimed Wilson “totally fabricated” her account of the call.

During the subsequent press conference, Trump said he “had a very nice conversation with the woman, the wife, who sounded like a lovely woman.” And yet, as the Hill reports, the president’s denials contradict Wilson’s description of the conversation, as well comments made by the mother of Sgt. La David T. Johnson, who effectively accused Trump of lying when she told WaPo that the president "did disrespect my son" with his condolence call.

"President Trump did disrespect my son and my daughter and also me and my husband," said Cowanda Jones-Johnson.

Trump added in his tweet that he has “proof” that the conversation didn’t proceed as the Congresswoman described, but declined to elaborate.

Wilson had said that the Johnson family was “astonished” by Trump's remarks during the phone call, which Wilson said she heard via a speaker phone while riding in a car with the Johnson family.

Wilson told CNN on Wednesday that Trump is "a sick man" and that his cavalier condolence call left Johnson's widow shaken.

“She was crying the whole time, and when she hung up the phone, she looked at me and said, ‘He didn’t even remember his name.’ That’s the hurting part.”

According to Wilson, Myeshia Johnson said the president didn’t even remember her dead husband’s name.  Adding to the confusion, Wilson responded to Trump by saying she stands by her account of the conversation.

Meanwhile, the White House communications department declined to disclose records of the call. “The President’s conversations with the families of American heroes who have made the ultimate sacrifice are private,” a White House official said in a statement.

Trump made the calls on Tuesday, nearly two weeks after the Oct. 4 attack. The calls followed Trump's claims, which have also caused ripples in the media world, that former President Barack Obama didn’t make condolence calls to the families of slain Americans.

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OneStinkyDinky's picture

Idiot ... the widow already confirmed you said it

 

Go back to golfing, inciting race wars, supporting nazis ... anything really

NoVa's picture

Yup - CONgresswomen must know she is going to lose face and be shamed. 

When Trump "doubles-down" he is nearly always right & wins.

 

zuuma's picture

Yup.

the Trollmaster waits until all the wild accusations break onto the rocks on shore.

Then, Boom.  The taped conversation shows he behaved as a classy, compassionate guy.

Congress critter crawls back to dungheap district with "no comment" for a comment.

curbjob's picture

Wow, that's so good you should send Harvey Weinstein  the script.

jcaz's picture

"Cowanda Jones-Johnson"

That's all I need to know......

cheka's picture

hands up dont shoot

he was just getting skittles when the white guy shot him

The_Juggernaut's picture

They attack everything he says and does.  Is anyone still paying attention to this crap?

Amaroosta's picture

I just want to know... since when did "he knew what he signed up for" become an insulting statement for military personnel?

We have a volunteer army.

LetThemEatRand's picture

"since when did 'he knew what he signed up for' become an insulting statement for military personnel?"

Some people would take it as a reasonable statement (similar to "he died doing what he loved"), some probably consider it insensitive to say to a grieving widow.  The only reason this is newsworthy is that Trump has to play a careful game with his base, which includes a lot of military families and flag wavers (see the NFL controversy).  If he's perceived as being insensitive to a grieving military widow, it will be damaging to his support base.  So of course the media will make a circus out of it.  I'd rather they make a circus out of his blatant lies relative to not handing the keys to the Treasury Goldman Sachs and the MIC, but MSM won't touch that because they're just fine with it.

Shitonya Serfs's picture

Trump should have naver made the call. No matter what he said, it would have come baqck to bite him.

 

DJT: I am so proud of your son's service.

Congo-Mom: Wut? You callin muh boy yo slave?

Blankone's picture

A foolish move by Trump, only downsides.

Escrava Isaura's picture

Astounding.

Last night we Hedgers were arguing about blacks low IQ.

Today we have a black lady telling that the President has a brain disease.

Then, here we have his base ‘the Hedgers’ that are incapable of sympathize trying to find excuses. Some even blame Trump to make the call, even that he has too. Every president does that.

So, as usual, everyone is focus on the symptoms, forgetting the disease.

Wondering what that is?

Personality disorder narcissists people are empathy-impaired. They can have empathy sometimes or to some degree, but it is not persistent.

Self center narcissist people ‘conservatives’ problem is that their actual empathy would be indistinguishable from the false empathy they project in order to manipulate others.

 

 

Bay of Pigs's picture

You're a moron.

Nobody here knows what was said and neither do you yet you make gross generalizations about Trump, his base and ZHers. Give it a rest.

Escrava Isaura's picture

Exactly.

By Soros. $15 dollars an hour.

 

Escrava Isaura's picture

Trump has a well established track record of lies.

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/ 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/08/22/president-trumps-list-of-false-and-misleading-claims-tops-1000/?utm_term=.4ae85cf28d70 

 

Second, honestly, do we even need a study to demonstrate the correlation between social conservatism, racism and evil?

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/floyd-elliot/study-finds-conservatives_b_1235382.html

 

Who are you kidding?

 

 

Bay of Pigs's picture

The WaPo and HuffPo?

Haha! Who the fuck are YOU kidding?

radiasian's picture

Lolz.  Look at your linked "sources."  That says it all.  Who are you kidding?

Oliver Klozoff's picture

Can't win with some blacks, used to be called "nigger logic", which is anything but.

 

juggalo1's picture

Clearly a Trump supporter, disrespecting a gold star family.

Max Hunter's picture

LOL.. 2 down votes.. I wonder what they didn't like about your comment.. 

swmnguy's picture

LTER mentioned that Trump has lied about not handing over the wealth of the US to the MIC and Goldman Sachs.  That's blasphemy in these here parts.  I mean, it's true of course, but it's blasphemy.

jerry_theking_lawler's picture

No. Real people will see it as a black family and black congress critter tryign to stir up shit. And this is what this is....

Bokkenrijder's picture

But seriously, don’t these people sign up for that? Why beat around the bush? In what kind of delusional world do those people want to live?

TheRedScourge's picture

Here's what I don't get. Why is it so hard to believe that the mother and this congressbitch are both lying Democrats who have everything to gain by conspiring to slander the shit out of Trump? Tapes or it didn't happen.

Raymond K Hessel's picture

The fact that they were all in a car together is proof you’re correct

Offthebeach's picture

Volunteers Army.  Check.

Volunteers combat arms MOS.  Check.

Volunteers Airborne.  Check.

Volunteers SF. Check.

Gets killed in exotic local.

 

So...um....whats the issue?

 

Promethus's picture

If Trump was stupid enough to call COWANDA Jones-johnson without recording the call and at least 3 witnesses he's  a brain dead moron. This is the same crowd that heard hands up don't shoot.  

TheRedScourge's picture

The problem is you can't just publish private calls like that to the entire world, whether or not you're right, without looking petty.

Gaius Petronius's picture

A Washington Post reporter said that someone who is familiar with the inner workings of the Trump administration confirmed that they record every call made out of the White Hosue.............

 

 

swmnguy's picture

Cool storyline--could you provide an example of this playing out in real life?

zuuma's picture

pick any trump tweetstorm. check the timeline.

Trump takes on some sacred cow with a tweet/shot.

beep beep.  the roadrunner trump takes off near light speed to the next target.

along lopes the media coyote jumping in to make the kill.  All media coyote gets is a handfull of dust where the bird once was.

Or - like with the NFL - off the cliff into a puff of smoke below.

Beep beep! on to the next one.

Trollmaster will tweet something about rocket man's hilarious mushroom hairdoo proving he's in deep shit and in the dark... seconds after releasing the phone recording that hopelessly discredits congo-resswoman for the rest of all time.

media is worse than squirrel jumping mutts. they are the always-losing coyote.

Meanwhile, trump is on track to nominate 150 federal judges using the Reid Nuclear rule. HAHAHA

I need more popcorn.

 

Gert_B_Frobe's picture

Shit, they have recordings of when he called Mexico and Australia right after he got in office that were leaked. No leak on this one so far. Okay boys and girls, the answer is???

Insurrector's picture

Yea, those tapes made me laugh.  Trump really is as bad as the MSM has been telling us.

Funny thing is that he complains about leaks and calls them fake news.  Why does he care about false news being leaked?

Sofa King's picture

Yup, he's a cleaver motherfucker unlike anyone who has ever worked at or interviewed on CNN...quick question, does everybody from Texas wear ridiculous hats or only the ones trying to make a point.

 

 

ich1baN's picture

She is actually a Bahamian woman from South Florida (mostly Southwest Broward county)... her wiki page suggests she has 100s of thsoe funny little hats (which speaks to her psychopathy), anyone with strange fetishes like that are obvious candiates for the top 1% of 1% psychopath category.

Also, she became nationally recognized when she stated that Trayvon was shot b/c of racism (without waiting for evidence or the details of the case to come out).

Gaius Frakkin' Baltar's picture

White identity is here to stay and you know it. Stop pretending otherwise.

MoreFreedom's picture

Wait for a) Someone in the Trump administration allowing them to retract their statement, and if they don't, b) Trump to release the recording of the call.  Trump will give the liars more and more rope to hang themselves.   I bet he's been holding back, for that very purpose.  Once he shows who the liars are, they'll be so discredited no one will believe them anymore.

What hasn't been released is any proof from the congresswoman that she said she has.  Democrats are the ones who keep making up stories without any proof, again and again.  They keep claiming Trump collusion with Putin, and more and mroe evidence surfaces about Obama/Clinton/Putin collusion. 

Insurrector's picture

Are you rubbing your ruby slips together Dorothy?  Hoping this nightmare Trump is just a bad dream?

jcaz's picture

Still weepy about the election, 37 weeks?

Psst- Hillary lost.......

Insurrector's picture

Immaterial.  We are stuck with Trump until he can be removed.

Gaius Petronius's picture

The media and the left will always believe them because it confirms what they already believe.

Gaius Petronius's picture

Could you point me to one media article where the wife was on record as saying what the Congresswoman claims?  I haven't seen it yet.  All I've seen is so and so says that the wife says which is third party hearsay.  Until I hear it from the horse's mouth (wife's), this sounds like fake news to me. 

 

Besides that, I can't believe the media thinks that this is their wedge issue.  The left already hates Trump and this article will just serve as confirmation bias for that viewpoint; meanwhile, the right will think even if he did say it, "He's got a point...the solider did know this was a possibility".  Just another pointless article to me.

 

tmosley's picture

Dumbshit liberals tell blatant lies, news at 11.

OneStinkyDinky's picture

Like the 3-5M illegal voters lie?

The Comey tapes lie?

Wiretapping lie?

Nobody from my campaign met with Russians lie?

 

The president lies everyday, news everyday

jcaz's picture

Wow- 4 whole weeks on this board, you're a fucking genius already.......

NoVa's picture

wow - the negative retards are sure out in force today -

Shibumi2's picture

Tylers...must very obvious who the shitstain, Soros backed shills are on ZH.

How about shutting this low level shitshow down

Do it for Jim Lahey

buyingsterling's picture

Besides the second, which he never stated unequivocally, these are essentially true. Your pimp God, Obama, was surveiling his calls with Manafort, you stupid leftist POS

tmosley's picture

The illegal immigrants bit was NOT a lie, you mongoloid. There are at least that many more registered to vote than there are people in a huge swath of democrat territory.

He never said he had tapes about Comey.

He WAS fucking wiretapped

Nobody ever said that nobody met with Russians. They didn't COLLUDE with Russia.

You dumb shits had best hope that nothing happens to Trump. He is literally all that is standing between you and your ilk and a date with the hangman.