Natixis Warns, US Economy Will "Slow Down Substantially" In 2018

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As US GDP growth rises at 3% or more for the second quarter in a row, French investment bank Natixis urges investors to prepare for the U.S. economy to "slow down substantially" as early as 2018.

Patrick Artus, chief economist at Natixis, warned that the current level of corporate investment is "abnormally high" and suggested a downward correction.

"The US economy will in all likelihood slow down substantially: there is a limit to the rise in the participation rate and the employment rate; real wages are slowing down,"

Artus concluded:

"investors should therefore prepare for the consequences... If US growth slows down markedly ... equity valuation and share prices will start falling."

For now he is almost alone in the wilderness as Wall Street analysts are falling over themselves to extrapolate trends, call the death of the bond bull market, and declare escape velocity is finally here (but carefully noting that this has nothing to do with Trump at all...)

As Alhambra Investment Partners' Jeffrey Snider notes, there's even less inside the Q3 GDP report... especially where it counts.

Inside the advance third quarter GDP report, the details in most of the important categories suggested slowing after two quarters consistent with “reflation” at least in its third try. If the economy swings between shallow downturns and often shallower upturns, these subcategories give us some insight as to why. Overall, growth remains at a level that is not growth, whether consumers or business investment.

Real Final Sales to Domestic Purchasers, a measure of US demand regardless of where the goods/services originated, increased by just 1.80% (Q/Q SAAR) in Q3. That was the lowest rate of expansion since Q1 2016 and the near-recession trough. It doesn’t bode well for future growth both as a reflection of incomes and the labor market but also the slight uptick in inventory detected by GDP also in the third quarter. That’s a potential problem for domestic producers as well as those overseas (China).

In terms of consumers alone, Real PCE growth remains stuck around and less than 2.5%. That’s substantially less than consumer spending growth that propelled actual economic advancement in the latter 20th century (with the eurodollar-fueled debt of the 2000’s serving as the initial transition to what we have now). In the media this is classified as “strong” and “resilient” when in fact it shows just how much trouble American workers have as compared to prior periods.

Most concerning of all is business investment. Real Private Non-residential Fixed Investment (PNFI) is a measure of capex, perhaps the broadest for the overall US economy. Quarter-over-quarter, PNFI rose by just 3.9% (SAAR) in Q3, a notable slowing from Q1 and Q2. Neither of those prior two quarters was all that solid to being with.

It is here where the so-called supply side or economic potential originates, and it is here where these upturn/downturn cycles are most evident – and therefore disquieting.

After massive cuts to capex due to liquidity constraints first during the worst of the Great “Recession” and its immediate aftermath, capital project spending didn’t really recover by a rate or level commensurate with that contraction. That was in all likelihood due to liquidity concerns especially at the corporate level.

Worse, after both subsequent monetary events (2011-12, 2014-16) aggregate capex becomes weaker for each one. Given what we know of corporate usage in the bond market (heavy), it seems out of character to tie it to liquidity preferences except in view of how those proceeds are actually being used (more and more financial “investment” rather than productive expansion).

From the perspective inside the boardroom, an economy that isn’t actually growing (confirmed by these downturns) is a greater risk than stock prices that appear invulnerable. Risk perceptions matter a great deal where economic opportunity is so limited. In other words, the worse the economy performs the more shares corporates will repurchase considering that to be the least risky use of scarce funds (in light of revenue and profit growth, or the related lack thereof).

If the supply side isn’t rebounding all that much in this third reflation upturn, it would explain in part the following (setting aside for now the oversized Establishment Survey jump in 2014):

What saved the day, so to speak, for the GDP headline was nothing more than inventory. Without it, Real GDP grew by 2.21% in Q3, down from 2.89% in Q2 and more like the deceleration we find internally.

Unless something happens during the current quarter to turn this around, businesses may find that inventory more of a hindrance and therefore an economic drag rather than a boost. Perhaps the effects of Harvey and Irma will provide some reprieve, but that shouldn’t last long with insurance premiums (among other things) already being re-evaluated for billing early next year.

It’s another really clear demonstration of this ratchet effect, where the intermittent monetary or liquidity (“dollars”) interruptions leave the US economy worse off for every one. We still haven’t recovered from 2008, let alone 2015-16, but each time it gets harder to overcome the downturn immediately before while still at the same time trying to grow our way out of what is now a complete lost decade. Unless something radically changes, Q4 2017 kicks off a second one no matter how many times over the next three months you see 3% celebrated (and it will be) as if it means something.


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Nobodys Home's picture

Don't worry. The Fed's got your back!

Looney's picture


urges investors to prepare for the U.S. economy to "slow down substantially" as early as 2018.

Sure! Mount Rushmore will slow down, too.   ;-)

This piece of shit, a.k.a. the US Economy never recovered from the crisis to begin with. All these GDP numbers are pulled right out of the ass, along with the Central Banks’ Trillions.


Yukon Cornholius's picture

With Amazon at $1100 how can the average citizen afford NOT to be in this market?

When are those Bobby Mueller charges coming down?

loebster's picture

"US Economy Will Slow Down"

Blame the CURSE!

olibur's picture

never underestimate the power of hot fudge sundae

Nobodys Home's picture

Just look at the commodities price basket of goods...When beef gets too expensive to prolong the farce...Change it to Chicken!!!

TBT or not TBT's picture

The French are experts, folks. 

VWAndy's picture

 That was going to be my post. Thats been happening a lot lately.

serotonindumptruck's picture

Perhaps it's my apocalyptic imagination, but there seem to be an increasing number of not-so-subtle warnings from the oligarchs and establishment bankers that there is an imminent economic storm on the near-term horizon.

Even with all of the typical doom-n-gloom articles that the Tylers tend to post, there seems to be an increased level of panic in the air lately.

Everything dies eventually, including every global reserve currency that has been attempted by the world Empires of the last 5,000 years.

VWAndy's picture

 False flags dont work anymore. We growed up past that shit and it scares tptb. Poise on our part is one thing they just dont have an answer for. They need us to fall for their tricks cuz thats all they got.

TBT or not TBT's picture

What they Fear most is ebonics. 

VWAndy's picture

 AI hates it thats fo sho.

Nobodys Home's picture

I've been utilizing my covert video camera mounted in your ceiling to watch what you're typing.

VWAndy's picture

thats cheating ya saposed to channel it

VWAndy's picture

 They must be talking about the ponzi economy. The barter thing seems to be picking up nicely.

shovelhead's picture

Everythings going to be swell forever...

~my little pony~

Winston Churchill's picture

The market can only go up.

deceased stockbroker in Harare

fooshorter's picture

C'mon ZH, stop posting dip-porn and just buy the dip to 30K! /s

Blacksunday3's picture

What about tax reform? Seems like that would speed things up at least in the short term.

VWAndy's picture

 Busting up the monopolies would be very popular. The medical monopoly should be the first one busted up. ymmv

indygo55's picture

BUt not Amazon of course. Don't break THEM up. Heaven forbid!!

rejected's picture

Good thing they don't use the GDP gauge to measure the government bullshit level. It would be pegging out.

FreeShitter's picture

Buy AMZN now be priced out forever.....bitchez

Rex Andrus's picture

Death by a thousand taxes

Jlasoon's picture

Is this suppose to happen before or after the crash of 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016 or 2017?

Just asking.

Sudden Debt's picture

American taxes are super low is you compaire it to the rest of the world.

I'm just saying that because you should brace yourself for massive tax increases.

Archive_file's picture

Tax increases on peons, not corporations.

Deep Snorkeler's picture

America 2018

A super-corporatist state,

an all-penetrating defense-security matrix,

a government of fealty and deference,

a global empire of daily military failure.

An economy structured on fraud, justified by funny-data;

middle and lower classes morphed into a single serf-class.

Ocean water moves against us.


Nobodys Home's picture

Debt to GDP over 100% since 1982! That splains things.

TN VOLUNTEER's picture

....Guess we need another Obombo to fix things...right!

shankster's picture

Everything is fine, turn your phone on and look at the screen, play your stereo real loud, drink more beer, play more games, spend money, watch TV, go shopping, go to amusement park....eveything is fine, turn your phone on stare at the screen, play more games.......

kapella's picture

I feel better knowing an economoron from a French company is calling for a US slowdown. Guess I'll lay in those S&P shorts first thing Monday morning

TN VOLUNTEER's picture

...The end of US economy have been prognosticated for the last 245 years... It will not happen with President Trump!

Byrond's picture

France unemployment rate: 9.8% (sounds about right aka real)

US unemployment rate: 4.4% (oh OK! It's just a number, any number from somewhere, don't know where!)

Now, what would happen to stocks and the economy if the US unemployment rate (not using all those years of Obama's fake stats) was 9.8%? 



Sudden Debt's picture

More corruption might solve it all...

JMKeynez's picture


These analysts have been talking down the us markets for ever 


Shepwave remains only analyst to get markets right. 


Laugh all wy to bank.

aliens is here's picture

More doom and gloom. The economy will crash when the bankers are ready to crash it. 

Hammer of Light's picture

Interesting - this is a Rothschild entity and a smoking gun to forward think the premeditated collapse by their design.

I've always known they (NWO/Illuminati)announce what they're going to do before they do it.

This is their final endgame in motion - clearly.

To all who think me mad.... look up who Nataxis is and more importantly where they came from and who owns Nataxis.

Macron is their (Rothschild) bitch. He was groomed from childhood for this role for the coming extermination of humanity en masse.

I say - Viva la Revolution! This story IS a smoking gun people.

There's a revolution calling.

The attempt of the Luciferian Rothschild and co to finally swallow up the world... definitely that is coming. They've set the date. Prepare accordingly.

Last of the Middle Class's picture

Since the Fed is the economy I guess he's talking taper.