"This Is Crazy" - Antarctic Supervolcano Is Melting The Ice-Caps From Within

Tyler Durden's picture

As we’ve pointed out, the supervolcano phenomenon is hardly unique to Yellowstone National Park, where a long dormant volcano with the potential to cause a devastating eruption has been rumbling since mid-summer, making some scientists uneasy.

Surprisingly active supervolcanos have been documented in Italy, North Korea and, now, Antarctica after scientists at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) have found new evidence to support a theory that the breakup of Antarctic ice may be caused in part by a massive geothermal heat source, with output close to the scale of Yellowstone National Park.

Of course, if accurate, this theory would help rebut the notion that man-made climate change is in part responsible for the melting ice, Russia Today reports.

A geothermal heat source called a mantle plume, a hot stream of subterranean molten rock that rises through the Earth's crust, may explain the breathing effect visible on Antarctica's Marie Byrd Land and elsewhere along the massive ice sheet.

While the mantle plume is not a new discovery, the recent research indicates it may explain why the ice sheet collapsed in a previous era of rapid climate change 11,000 years ago, and why the sheet is breaking up so quickly now.

"I thought it was crazy. I didn't see how we could have that amount of heat and still have ice on top of it," said Hélène Seroussi of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California.

Seroussi and Erik Ivins of JPL used the Ice Sheet System Model (ISSM), a mathematical depiction of the physics of ice sheets developed by scientists at JPL and the University of California, Irvine. Seroussi then tweaked the ISSM to hunt for natural heat sources as well as meltwater deposits.

This warm water lubricates the ice sheet from below, allowing glaciers to slide off into the sea. Studying meltwater in western Antarctica may allow scientists to estimate how much ice will be lost in future.

During their initial work, Seroussi and Ivins created simulations using higher heat flows than 150 milliwatts per square meter, which did not align with their space-based readings, except for one area: The Ross Sea.

 

 

Their calculations showed that, in certain sections of the sea, a heat flow of at least 150-180 milliwatts was required to create sufficient meltwater flows that matched with observations. They now believe the mantle plume is responsible for these higher-than-average readings.

The Marie Byrd Land mantle plume formed 50 to 110 million years ago, predating the Western Antarctic ice sheet. The mantle plume theory was initially proposed 30 years ago, but it’s not the only theory. Another posits that the sheer weight of the ice sheets causes melting deep below the surface.
 

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homiegot's picture

I love seeing scientists dumbfounded.

Mustafa Kemal's picture

" love seeing scientists dumbfounded."

 We do too. I have been that way my whole professional life.

Bes's picture

it's called

isostatic rebound

as the ice caps melts

weight is lifted off the crust

and triggering

all sorts of

calamities. 

drill baby drill.

hahahaha!

 

nmewn's picture

What happened to "climate change"? ;-)

nmewn's picture

Clearly its angioplastic volcanic face melt ;-) 

peddling-fiction's picture

Maybe it is a Photoshop work of creative art.

SixIsNinE's picture

most of what we were taught growing up about where we live was made up fiction.

 

nasa love the fiction peddlers.  come up with new stories every day. 

 

buckle up the ride is starting to get interesting

Slack Jack's picture

Record-Setting Hurricanes; Record temperatures; Record-Setting Wildfires; ya think it might be global warming?

THE EVIDENCE OF GLOBAL WARMING IS OVERWHELMING.

So, why is the global rise in temperatures so worrisome?

For one thing, as temperatures rise good farmland will become desert (e.g., dust-bowl conditions will probably return to the American Midwest).

Another major problem is sea-level rise.

Have a look at http://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/fs2-00/

The U.S. Geological Survey people claim that;

The Greenland ice sheet melting will raise sea-level 6.55 meters (21.5 feet),
the West Antarctica ice sheet melting will raise sea-level 8.06 meters (26.4 feet),
the East Antarctica ice sheet melting will raise sea-level 64.8 meters (212.6 feet),
and all other ice melting will raise sea-level 0.91 meters (3 feet).

For a grand total of about 80 meters (263 feet).

So, what does an 80 meter (263 feet) rise in sea-level mean. Have a look at the following map of the world after an 80 meter rise. It means that over one billion people will have to be resettled to higher ground and that much of the most productive agricultural land will be under water. Fortunately, at current rates, the Greenland ice sheet will take over a thousand years to melt and the Antarctica ice sheet, much longer. However, the greater the temperature rise the faster the ice sheets will melt, bringing the problem much closer. Remember, the huge ice sheet that recently covered much of North America, almost completely melted in only 15,000 years (today, only the Greenland ice sheet, and some other small patches of it, remain). Since then (15,000 years ago), sea-levels have risen about 125 meters (410 feet), only 80 meters to go.

The ice sheets have been continuously melting for thousands of years. What is left of them today, is still melting, and will continue to melt. Human caused global warning will cause this remnant to melt significantly faster. This is a big, big, problem.

For HUGE detailed maps of the "World after the Melt" go to:

http://preearth.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=23

Global temperatures are increasing. And by quite a lot each year.

2016 is the hottest year on record for global temperatures.

This is 0.0380 degrees centigrade hotter than the previous record year which was 2015.

0.0380 is a large increase in just one year.

2015 was the hottest year (at that time) for global temperatures.

This was 0.1601 degrees hotter than the previous record year which was 2014.

0.1601 is an absolutely huge increase in just one year (at this rate temperatures would increase by 16 degrees in a century).

2014 was the hottest year (at that time) for global temperatures.

This was 0.0402 degrees hotter than the previous record year which was 2010.

http://preearth.net/images/temp-anomalies-1880-2017.txt

The conspiracy to hide global warming data.

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) is given tax money to make global temperature records available to the public. However, certain people at NOAA continually sabotage this aspect of NOAA's mandate. For example, these people have (deliberately) sabotaged the web-page that delivers the temperature records.

Look for yourself:

Go to the page: https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/monitoring-references/faq/anomalies.php scroll down to the The Global Anomalies and Index Data section and click the download button and see what happens. Well, you get the message:

"Not Found. The requested URL /monitoring-references/faq/anomalies-download was not found on this server."

I guess that the 2017 data must be truly horrible if they have to hide it away.

http://preearth.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=23

Slack Jack's picture

"Their calculations showed that, in certain sections of the sea, a heat flow of at least 150-180 milliwatts was required...."

To get an idea of the (150-180 milliwatts per square meter) heat flow that they are talking about. Go outside just before the sun rises and feel the heat flow from the earth/dirt. That is 80 milliwatts per square meter,... Watch you don't burn your hand. Now imagine double that.

Mr Hankey's picture

Did you read the article?

Froman's picture

SlackJack is a copy and paste troll.  Any time he sees a ZH headline that has anything to remotely do with weather he trots out his copy and paste climate change tripe that he gleans from Google searches. 

ceilidh_trail's picture

I am not sure that he can read.

Manthong's picture

 

..but on the other hand ………………..

According to Obama, 99% of scientists  agree that anthro’s cause all of the hot sea vent heat and will kill us all.

bluez's picture

Just what I told y'all. It comes from where least expected. I told you there was a supervolcano melting the Antarctic pole. Did you listen? NO!

Now we are so screwed. But it don't matter anyhow. How you gonna prep against this motherfucker? You can't.

But carry on. Prep for tomorrow morning. Prep that coffee maker and be off to your business. Sheep.

Tao 4 the Show's picture

In every way, you show yourself to be an idiot, but at least you chose an appropriate name: "Slack" and don't know "Jack".

trippy64's picture

Dearest Slack Jack:

Please look up the temperature of 1997 and 2003 respectively, as reported in 2005,2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, and 2012. And please explain how these two temperatures have been adjusted downward each and every tie they were reported, so that the subsequent years can be reported as the hottest years ever.

Then tell me how this manipulation points to anything but wishcasting? Because i have been hearing about this rise in sea water for decades, yet the sea from my house hasn't moved much in 40+ years, other than during storms.

Please and thank you

Kayman's picture

"And a warm front from the Arctic is moving south through Canada to warm the US Northeast."

SlackJack- well named- always spouting off- "Record this, Record that".  As every lying statistician learns in Stats 101, when you get to pick the beginning date, you can always manipulate the data to create a "record".

Today is colder than yesterday so today is a record for the 2 days.  "The sky is falling" works well for children and idiots.

techpriest's picture

You know, when I leave a concrete tile on the grass in my yard (insulator) and come back the next day, it does tend to be pretty warm and wet underneath compared to the space around it...

Bubba Rum Das's picture

Just shut the fuck up, no-one reads your shit anymore anyway.

runswithscissors's picture

The globe is warming from within and there is not a fucking thing you can do about it asshat.

Ignacous Pugnacious's picture

Indeed. Were we to compare current climate-science progress to that of a human being, it would be but a zygote.

MillionDollarButter's picture

According to years of NASA data, the Antarctic hasn't warmed.  NASA's numbers are in line with the fact that the Antarctic ice has been increasing.  No controversy on one side or the other here.

Manthong's picture

 

Well, the good news is that we might finally have palm trees growing in Yellowknife....

.. and I can go north for a nice December  tan,

 

….. and I am soliciting for investors in my new, exclusive  gated community in …

Hot Springs, Siberia.

 

Sparkey's picture

The next thing you will be telling us we are all going to die, who wants to believe that? On an other note, this is a good, short, rebuttal to climate hysteria, which, in it's essence, is not about the climate but rather about money.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFal8OLbK_4

Geoengineering_Genocide's picture

Oversimplification and outright fabrication.  

https://skepticalscience.com/antarctica-gaining-ice.htm

Science-based education is critical.  

Truthoutthere's picture

Ye Goode olde fear tactic.That's what all this anthropogenic climate change stuff is all about.Trumped up terrorism= trumped up man made climate change.'Coz when ya got the population in fear then ya got control.Ain't that right David Rockefeller(and whoever the fuck else sleeps upside down in a belfry)?

bobzibub's picture

If the global climate change theory is wrong, and the world spends hundreds of billions fixing it, we're out hundreds of billions.
If you're wrong and we don't spend hundreds of billions fixing it, the world is really really screwed as are the people on it. What's rational policy then?

I think that people who deny climate change usually go from limo to a/c office to a/c hotel to golf course in some city etc. Those that have been in the wilds over the decades will see the changes first hand. I'm not mr. outdoorsman but even I have.

Sparkey's picture

You can't help people like Bob, he has a 'need to believe' if it wasn't climate change he'd be virtue signaling in some other way, he has to, he is so guilty about something , something he can't really explain!

techpriest's picture

I spend plenty of time outside, every day. and frankly, the main difference I see is that the best thing we can do for the environment is eliminate the school system as we know it, as it teaches kids at a behavioral level to sit in an office and do paperwork, in the hopes of getting reward tokens (A's, shiny stickers, later on BMWs). This feeds into all sorts of backward ideas about private land use, which has a variety of follow-on effects (for example, if most of your back yard is raised-bed garden, you reduce ag demand *and* you offset the hard surface from your house in terms of water runoff).

Next, ag policy demands killing off all kinds of species on large swathes of land, and then we turn around and burn nearly half of the corn we grow. That has caused all kinds of wildlife death and ecosystem disruption.

Finally, the majority of people I know who are ranting about climate change tend to be the ones in the climate-controlled office, because they are clueless to what's going on outside.

Truthoutthere's picture

Hey Bob,
I'm not saying climate change isn't happening.What I am saying is I don't believe it is caused by man.I believe it is part of earth's natural cycle.

shovelhead's picture

It was aborted long ago.

AGW did a complete D&C .

You Only Live Twice's picture

That is correct. Currently, the crust and core of the Earth are spinning at different rates (they are no longer in sync), and the increase in friction is causing warming from within.

justa minute's picture

actually their is no spinning or wobbling or whatever, water is always level at rest, how do you know? reflection, pretty simple, something that has curvature will not reflect anything, same goes for the moon if it were a globe it would not reflect sunlight. do some research, as a cia director once said "our mission is complete when EVERYTHING people believe is a lie" and that includes globism which is the one world religion. that will be proven by how many down arrows i get, but that is ok you can all keep arguing about something that doesnt even exist. just look at the un logo, that is a map of true earth broken up into 33 sections(33 degrees of freemasonry), they are laughing at you!

EddieLomax's picture

I can only interpret that as humour, if not then I hope the meds help :)

Manthong's picture

 

maybe the sun kind of helps that process, too   ........

Sparkey's picture

Are you saying that we can't just pay the 'Climate Scientists' and they will 'fix' this Volcano problem? Your problem, I think is, you don't have sufficient faith in the power of money!

Joe Mama 3's picture

goddamn nigger, you took the time to type all this bs ???????????????????????

francis_the_wonder_hamster's picture

Pay attention Joe,

He's been copy & pasting that same garbage for months now anytime any article references the Climate Change charade.

Those who are familiar with Climate Gate and all things related are very familiar with one of the deans of climate-hysteria: Michael Mann.  There's a local fishwrap here in San Diego called the Carmel Valley News with a circulation of a few thousand.  Someone had made a comment rebutting the CAGW theory in the letters to the editor section.  Michael Mann took the time our of his busy research/begging for funding schedule to write a rebuttal.  This rebuttal was very similar to Slack Jack's drivel....just trying to drive home the same debunked meme over and over trying to control the narrative and make sure there's never any real scientific debate.  Science is not done by shouting down naysayers, but that's pretty much Mann's entire contribution to science the past couple of decades.  The clown still tries to use his hockey stick graph, for the luv of gawd.

And yes, I wrote a rebuttal but the editor (who I know) chose not to publish as they were aware of Mann's constant lawsuits at anyone who has the gall to challenge him publicly.

Archibald Buttle's picture

Science is not done by shouting down naysayers

thomas dolby might have something to say about this assertion.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x11lvw

shovelhead's picture

Nope.

He has his cut and paste at the ready.

Mau Mau uprising in Chicago? Slackies ready with his AGW as the cause.

booboo's picture

My bullshit carbon credit scam is MELTIING,melting, melt........

Geoengineering_Genocide's picture

SEARCH FOR: "GEOENGINEERING DESTROYING OZONE LAYER"

Memedada's picture

Yep, all ”economic” activity today is basically different variations of Ponzi Schemes.

But you have to be blind (or be too much in the “corporate propaganda”-loop/MSN-hypnosis) not to notice that the current economic system is also an ecological disaster. In relation to all measures of sustainability – depleting natural resources (clean fresh water being the most important), literal islands of plastic floating around in the oceans, micro-plastics ending in food and water, air pollution, reduction in biodiversity (in both flora and fauna – land and sea) and mountains of waste. The current economic system is wasteful – wasteful of resources and time. And the current economic system is destructive – of the commons, humans and of the nature.   

 

shovelhead's picture

Right. Take this money from bullshit AGW and spend it on real pollution control.

Nah. Science and Academia don't get endless grants for trash.

Nostradumbass's picture

'Ol One-Note Slack Jack spamming again.

 

waspwench's picture

Slack Jack is back.   Eeeeek!

 

Hit the road Jack and don't you come back

No more, no more, no more, no more.

Hit the road Jack and don't you come back

No more.

Fish Gone Bad's picture

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Same shit.

Geoengineering_Genocide's picture

It's not volcanoes or "climate change", it's an abrupt climate shift triggered in no small part by GLOBAL CLIMATE ENGINEERING, which threatens all life on Earth.   

http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/ozone-layer-collapse-a-former-nasa-co...

https://skepticalscience.com/climate-change-little-ice-age-medieval-warm...

Nothing else matters until this ends.  Because if it doesn't, we will no longer be firing on every neuron and there will be no food or water left.  EVERYTHING ELSE is an utter distraction - even the economic stuff, and especially the political theatre.    

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