"This Is Crazy" - Antarctic Supervolcano Is Melting The Ice-Caps From Within

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As we’ve pointed out, the supervolcano phenomenon is hardly unique to Yellowstone National Park, where a long dormant volcano with the potential to cause a devastating eruption has been rumbling since mid-summer, making some scientists uneasy.

Surprisingly active supervolcanos have been documented in Italy, North Korea and, now, Antarctica after scientists at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) have found new evidence to support a theory that the breakup of Antarctic ice may be caused in part by a massive geothermal heat source, with output close to the scale of Yellowstone National Park.

Of course, if accurate, this theory would help rebut the notion that man-made climate change is in part responsible for the melting ice, Russia Today reports.

A geothermal heat source called a mantle plume, a hot stream of subterranean molten rock that rises through the Earth's crust, may explain the breathing effect visible on Antarctica's Marie Byrd Land and elsewhere along the massive ice sheet.

While the mantle plume is not a new discovery, the recent research indicates it may explain why the ice sheet collapsed in a previous era of rapid climate change 11,000 years ago, and why the sheet is breaking up so quickly now.

"I thought it was crazy. I didn't see how we could have that amount of heat and still have ice on top of it," said Hélène Seroussi of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California.

Seroussi and Erik Ivins of JPL used the Ice Sheet System Model (ISSM), a mathematical depiction of the physics of ice sheets developed by scientists at JPL and the University of California, Irvine. Seroussi then tweaked the ISSM to hunt for natural heat sources as well as meltwater deposits.

This warm water lubricates the ice sheet from below, allowing glaciers to slide off into the sea. Studying meltwater in western Antarctica may allow scientists to estimate how much ice will be lost in future.

During their initial work, Seroussi and Ivins created simulations using higher heat flows than 150 milliwatts per square meter, which did not align with their space-based readings, except for one area: The Ross Sea.

 

 

Their calculations showed that, in certain sections of the sea, a heat flow of at least 150-180 milliwatts was required to create sufficient meltwater flows that matched with observations. They now believe the mantle plume is responsible for these higher-than-average readings.

The Marie Byrd Land mantle plume formed 50 to 110 million years ago, predating the Western Antarctic ice sheet. The mantle plume theory was initially proposed 30 years ago, but it’s not the only theory. Another posits that the sheer weight of the ice sheets causes melting deep below the surface.
 

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Dead Canary's picture

I know where the poles are. In Poland.

~ A Harvard economist.

BarkingCat's picture

Why do O'Hare airport isn't in Chicago? Too many Poles.

Internet-is-Beast's picture

Everyone knows the poles are meromorphic.

MaxThrust's picture

"It really makes you wonder how these dumbasses can even find their way to the poles."

They don't. Someone else does that for them.

lincolnsteffens's picture

This is not a new discovery. The volcano under the ice sheet has been know for years. The climate bullshitters have been screaming about the Antarctic big splash to come because of man induced temperature rise.

Lore's picture

Agreed.  This is another monkey-wrench for true believers in the authorized CAGW narrative.  You can't tax volcanism any more than you can tax solar radiation, so would-be technocrats have striven for ages to devise a bogeyman predicated on something that can be attributed directly to human activity: an environmental false flag.  The quest is known in some of their writings as "The Problematique." 

In searching for a new enemy to unite [the sheeple], we came up with the IDEA that pollution, the THREAT OF global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would FIT THE BILL. All these dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome. The real enemy then, is humanity itself." - Club of Rome, First Global Revolution, 1991

It's gratifying to see the masses deprogram and cut through Big Lies.  Hopefully, lessons learned will be remembered after SHTF.  Much will depend on how bad things get and who remains to warn the next generation. 

scintillator9's picture

Just like my scientific mentor, Homer Simpson, always told me; the best way to make ice cubes it to put my ice cube tray in the oven and set to bake.

Oh, wait, that was global warming.

My bad.

 

devnickle's picture

Dunno. Cold as shit here in Oregon already. Snow on the hills.

Braverdave's picture

Okanagan Valley in Canada with snow in the valley for a week or more now and in the hills for even longer.

I like snow (seriously :)

BarkingCat's picture

I drove through Eastern Oregon on my way down to Arizona over 2 weeks ago and saw snow on the hills on the side of the road.

 I'm going to be heading back North this weekend and I am wondering what route to take because  I don't want to get stuck in winter conditions.

newmacroman's picture

6 inches at the north end.

Where art thow?

Braverdave sounds like Beaverdale, but that east of valley...

Joe Mama 3's picture

52 degrees F. in Houston right now, and we burning up our propane like nobody's beezwax !!!!!!!! fuck i hate cold weather !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kassandra's picture

52 f is not cold. Put on a sweater. Oh wait, you live in Houston. Sweaters are not normal there..never mind.

Bollixed's picture

It'll be 18F at my house tomorrow. I've already used up all of my aerosol cans at this point...

Internet-is-Beast's picture

You can always leave your car running.

FredFlintstone's picture

You can get ticketed for that now.

Endgame Napoleon's picture

They drag that theory out only when it is ideologically convenient. They never want to talk about the issue of overpopulation—more humans consuming natural resources—and climate change, when they are pitching more pay-per-birth welfare and child-tax-credit (tax-code) welfare for working parents.

shovelhead's picture

You really should go try to knock someone up. You'll feel better.

MozartIII's picture

"What happened to "climate change"?"

Got hit by an old cranky Volcano that feels the need to warm! Oh I forgot the begining of a solar minimum. Can't wait to see what the NASA scientist (propagandist) explanation of what happens through that will be. Will more old cranky volcanos start to warm up.... then blow???

 Bur, its cold outside!

drendebe10's picture

Fuk global warming. At one time the scientific conaensus was the earth was flat, the earth was the center of the universe and eggs were bad for you. Scientific consensus is just as much about bullsht politica2 az anything. Ya think if ur a scientist @ a bullsht ivory tower and u speak against global warming u get promoted or retained.  Fat fukn chance. Fuk all those progressive liberal democraps. Fukemall

HellFish's picture

I'm sure the supervolcanoe's heat can be attributed to man-made CO2 emissions somehow.  Waiting for Bill Nye and Al Gore to make the statement.  LOL

Mute Button's picture

The Rothschild survival bunker in Antarctica looks like a worse idea than that.

IH8OBAMA's picture

I'm sure the Religion of Global Warming members will deny there is a volcano under the AntArctic ice.

 

ipso_facto's picture

'I'm sure the Religion of Global Warming members will deny there is a volcano under the AntArtic ice.'

No silly.  That could eventaully be proven to be true.  Religion of Global Warming members will conclude that the Global Warming CAUSED THE MAGMA PLUME.

A Nanny Moose's picture

...and when temps fall, they will claim to have suceeded....while not actually doing anything.

shovelhead's picture

Ergo AGW becomes "climate change".

Like betting on red and black.

Endgame Napoleon's picture

It is one of those religions where the leading ministers wear $3,000 suits and fly all over the world in jets that drink up a lot of natural
resources, spreading the gospel.

sheikurbootie's picture

Climate change really is a religion to these atheist. 

It's a shame NOAA and NASA were part of the fabricating of the data.   NASA is desperate for funding.  It's a relic and dying.  NOAA just wants more job security.  Where else could all these clowns work?  Not many jobs for weather people outside of NOAA and local TV. 

SixIsNinE's picture

hey, at least Buzz Lightyear made to Trump's new Space Council signing ceremony -

get a load of Buzz's facial tics,  priceless :  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtQ3-X0ssvY

 

GLOBEBUSTERS   on youtube

yakmerchant's picture

Just for fun go find the leaked skull and bones list and cross reference that list with people that work at the NOAA

Txpl9421's picture

Quick....look over there. That's the North Pole. It's getting cold there now. Climate change!

Txpl9421's picture

Quick....look over there. That's the North Pole. It's getting cold there now. Climate change!

RafterManFMJ's picture

Oh man, pretty soon all those Alien Pyrimids are going to be uncovered!

SilverDOG's picture

Not exactly.

Earth began a tilt reversal in.... OMG ! say it... say it... 2012 ! TEOWANKI !!!!

BS aside, the tilt reversal still occurred, every 13,000 years +-

Now, the Earths inner core is being stressed, thus the crust is being flexed.

Take a bicycle tire, axel end in each hand and imitate the earth's slow spin.

Tilt slowly one way... no problem.

The reverse... not so easy and forces expend in multiple directions through your hands.

Now science knows this, geological proof shows it, but who gots da MONEY ?!

"They" want to drag and draw it out BSx10 for MOAR MONEY !

You live on the "Ring of Fire" and are under 30 yrs old... get great camera, comfortable seats, and a heicopter.

You think California is overdue, and Yellowstone, and, and, and, the party has just begun; at planet speed.

F-ing slow.

justa minute's picture

if you take a compass one end of th needle will point true north if you follow the needle at the other end it points to outter space unless the earth is flat. the pole star always rests over the north pole and never moves and all the heavenly bodies rotate around it, there is no tilt or a south pole for that matter. the land of the midnight sun wher the sun never sets why doesnt that occur at the so-called south pole, it should if earth were a globe oh and water doesnt run uphill as it would have to if earth were a globe, the nile starts below the equator and ends in the mediteranean sea

shovelhead's picture

Not to metion all the ships that fall off the edge.

Maybe thats why Walmart cant stock its shelves.

brianshell's picture

So the US should begin a project to pile up all our garbage and old concrete on top of old faithful?

GeezerGeek's picture

They were pretty dumbfounded when they recently discovered there were far more underwater volcanoes under Antarctica than they thought. I'm pretty sure that the number of volcanoes there was settled science, until it wasn't.

Modern 'science' seems to be wandering farther and farther away from real science. I wonder what role political pressure plays a part in that.

any_mouse's picture

Think of Science under the Church prior to the Renaissance.

Same deal, just a different belief that requires absolute faith.

Is-Be's picture

requires absolute faith.

The full faith in the value of the mighty dolla.

BringOnTheAsteroid's picture

Science has lost a large degree of it's credibility. I think it may have peaked in the 60's but has been on a gradual downhill slide from there. A mixture of ever decreasing education standards, hubris and greed (see climate science). 

I held the field and those who practised it on a very high pedestal but now it's in the same bin with law, politics and real estate agents.

An absolute classic case in point was a recent radio interview I was listening too. A scientist conducfted a study of 3000 people and found a statistical link between "a slow start at school" and caesarian birth. The reason he concluded was . . . . . wait for it . . . . . . was because the ceasarian birth had some impact on the gut flora which then affected brain function. So as a non scientist let me get this staright. In the 60 seconds it takes to complete a ceasarian section the gut flora of the baby knows it is not a natural birth so does something inside 60 seconds that then has a profound effect on the brain function for the next several years.

Guess what statement he conculded the interview with? It immediately made me think of climate scientists. His concluding statement was: "We need to do more research". What he didn't say was he needed the money from the research to make the payments on his million dollar loan on 1.5 million dollar house and BMW parked in the driveway.

I could have reached down the airwaves and strangled the fuck.

Science is dead. 

 

 

Rex Andrus's picture

Where there's one roach... you know where they live.

Internet-is-Beast's picture

The article you cite from nature did not say dark matter bites the dust. It acknowledges that dark matter is a hypothesis:

"Physicists have widely accepted the existence of dark matter since the 1980s as an explanation for why galaxies remain intact rather than flying apart, which would be expected given the amount of observable mass they contain and how fast they rotate. Researchers surmised that halos of invisible dark matter surround galaxies and stabilize them. Physicists grew more confident when dark-matter models successfully predicted the fluctuations detected in an observable echo of the Big Bang, known as the cosmic microwave background."

Evidently, dark matter also has a role to play in gravitational lensing. What the article did say, in effect, is that this is a difficult problem.

I looked at the Amazon page you cite on Pari Spolter. While it is true that I haven't read her book (and frankly, don't intend to) the reviews sounded like they were written by ignoramuses. Not every one who comes up with an alternative explanation is a Galileo who is being persecuted by the establishment.

If you are genuinly curious about gravity and how it can be regarded as an emergent phenomenon which could be the key to understanding dark matter, here is a fascinating lecture by Erik Verlinde that can be understood by educated laymen: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-OlEGq_g2FI

S.N.A.F.U.'s picture

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In the 60 seconds it takes to complete a ceasarian section the gut flora of the baby knows it is not a natural birth so does something inside 60 seconds that then has a profound effect on the brain function for the next several years.

I of course didn't hear this particular interview you're talking about but...

I'm pretty sure you are mischaracterizing this idea completely.  The idea isn't that ceasarian has any sort of direct harmful effect, it's that it fails to have a beneficial effect that normal birthing does.

You might not know this, but a woman's pussy is kind of a filthy thing, located fairly close to their asshole, and there's bacteria all over the area.  The idea is that that filth contains helpful bacteria (it's "good filth") - bacteria that already exists in the mother's gut, bacteria the baby does not already have because the baby was previously only exposed to the mother through the bloodstream (and if these gut bacteria were in a mother's bloodstream that would not exactly be normal).  During a normal birth the baby is exposed to some of this bacteria as it comes out, and it only takes a very small amount to then seed the baby's own flora.  (Failing that, it means the baby's guts are left "too clean" [sterile] making it much easier for any non-helpful and even harmful bacteria that comes along to settle in.)

Mothers and babies are connected in all kinds of ways like this.  Another example is breast milk - it's not just for food.  For example, it contains antibodies that help protect the baby.

Here's a bit of off-the-wall hypothesizing for you:

Not kissing your wife could make your baby sick.

Ever wonder why kissing is a thing?  (Yes, people like it, but why are they programmed to like it?)  Kissing (and variations of it) predate humans.  It is, among other things, a way for a male (that will likely be around the child a lot) to quickly/efficiently pass their germs to the mother so the mother can then develop antibodies and pass those antibodies (through blood during pregnancy, through milk after pregnancy) to her baby, thereby protecting the baby from the father's germs until its immune system is strong enough to take care of itself.  (For this same reason, mothers kissing their other children [who can of course be germ carriers as well] could also help protect her baby.  Maybe if you're going to have a nanny taking care of your newborn, the nanny and your wife should make out...)

Biology is... messy.  (I bet Miffed could tell a tale or two about it.)

BringOnTheAsteroid's picture

Really interesting response. What you are stating is paramount in the survival of marsupials. A female possum will feed her baby pap, basically the baby eats its mothers shit,. Without this a baby possum simply won't survive.

Also there are some very interesting results from human faecal transplants in the treatment of irritable bowel syndrome. 

All this being said. Given humans have evolved over billions of years from single cell organisms and the result of this billion years is vaginal birth, our money would be better spent than sone dumb ass hole who calls himself a scientist conducting research to tell us vaginally birth is better. All I am saying is the outcome of a billion years of trial and error may hold as much weight,  if not more than a stupid human studying 3000 births.

FredFlintstone's picture

I speculate that back in the day, much more of scientific research was funded by private industry, which had a profit motive and was therefore interested in discovering truths and that today it is the government who has a political agenda.