"This Is Crazy" - Antarctic Supervolcano Is Melting The Ice-Caps From Within

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As we’ve pointed out, the supervolcano phenomenon is hardly unique to Yellowstone National Park, where a long dormant volcano with the potential to cause a devastating eruption has been rumbling since mid-summer, making some scientists uneasy.

Surprisingly active supervolcanos have been documented in Italy, North Korea and, now, Antarctica after scientists at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) have found new evidence to support a theory that the breakup of Antarctic ice may be caused in part by a massive geothermal heat source, with output close to the scale of Yellowstone National Park.

Of course, if accurate, this theory would help rebut the notion that man-made climate change is in part responsible for the melting ice, Russia Today reports.

A geothermal heat source called a mantle plume, a hot stream of subterranean molten rock that rises through the Earth's crust, may explain the breathing effect visible on Antarctica's Marie Byrd Land and elsewhere along the massive ice sheet.

While the mantle plume is not a new discovery, the recent research indicates it may explain why the ice sheet collapsed in a previous era of rapid climate change 11,000 years ago, and why the sheet is breaking up so quickly now.

"I thought it was crazy. I didn't see how we could have that amount of heat and still have ice on top of it," said Hélène Seroussi of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California.

Seroussi and Erik Ivins of JPL used the Ice Sheet System Model (ISSM), a mathematical depiction of the physics of ice sheets developed by scientists at JPL and the University of California, Irvine. Seroussi then tweaked the ISSM to hunt for natural heat sources as well as meltwater deposits.

This warm water lubricates the ice sheet from below, allowing glaciers to slide off into the sea. Studying meltwater in western Antarctica may allow scientists to estimate how much ice will be lost in future.

During their initial work, Seroussi and Ivins created simulations using higher heat flows than 150 milliwatts per square meter, which did not align with their space-based readings, except for one area: The Ross Sea.



Their calculations showed that, in certain sections of the sea, a heat flow of at least 150-180 milliwatts was required to create sufficient meltwater flows that matched with observations. They now believe the mantle plume is responsible for these higher-than-average readings.

The Marie Byrd Land mantle plume formed 50 to 110 million years ago, predating the Western Antarctic ice sheet. The mantle plume theory was initially proposed 30 years ago, but it’s not the only theory. Another posits that the sheer weight of the ice sheets causes melting deep below the surface.

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ThinkAgain's picture

It's time to put Al Gore where he belongs: out of the science realm back into the political realm. Al Gore known no science and is anti-science. Science is about 'always keep asking questions', something Al Gore sees as sin to humanity. This guy has had way too muchj air time for his doom vision. Besides that he killed science: he robbed one whole generation of a positive future perspective.

Things are not that simple as Al wants them to be (better said: Al is simple minded): http://www.planck.org/publications/Sun-Earth-Interactions. Al doesn't understand the sun, the solar system, the milky way, the universe and the influence of all on the earth's core, not the behaviour of the earth core itself. Al is an idiot in a suit substituting all our brain is some way longing for: preaching a modern version of religion (questioning is forbidden and a sin).

daedon's picture

Gore is in the Carbon Credit Making Money Realm.

FredFlintstone's picture

Al Gore may be an idiot, but what about Bill Nye?


Nunyadambizness's picture

Bigger idiot and a fraud.  Buck Fill Nye.

Gobble D. Goop's picture

Brother Gore understands the science perfectly well.  He just wants to make a buck.  Just like the media. Just like the scientists.  They all know damn well the climate is controlled by the sun and vulcanism.  They want to control us just like the sun controls the climate, and they want our money and our soveriegnty.  

The dirty little secret, for Slack and his ilk, is that global carbon taxes was to be one of the golden paths to a New World Order.  The power to tax is the power to destroy.  Destroy the soveriegnty of all individual nations.

Slack, get it through your head.  This aint about saving the planet from global warming, it's about taking it from the useless eaters (you), so the the PTB have thier own global Sherwood Forest.

shovelhead's picture

I'd rather see Gore in the dirt realm.

DaiRR's picture

The last of the glaciers that carved out the Great Lakes melted only 8,000 years or so ago, and the long term warming trend has continued.  So using global warming fanatic logic, the domestication of cows, sheep, goats, horses and pigs has caused the whole problem.  LOL.  The system is bigger than you dare to understand you GW idiots, and you can't do a damn thing about it.

Avichi's picture

Tyler - Just Yesterday NOVA  had a series on "KILLER FLOODS"- It has happened , and it is brewing ... Watch it http://www.pbs.org/video/killer-floods-jymfcf/



oncemore's picture

scientists say so much !

Even a certain Newton said, that gravity excerts a force from body to body.

if you use his law and plugin  mass of sun, earth and moon, you will see, that moon cannot orbit earth, according to his wisdom.

Even NASA is  perplexed and has no answer.

try it everybody for himself

F=G *(m1*m3)/r1**2

F=G *(m2*m3)/r2**2

G ... Newton grav.constant

m1 mass sun 1.090*10**30 kg

m2..mass earth 5.97*10**24 kg

m3 mass moon  7.8*10**22

r1...distance moon sun....145000000000 m

r2 distance earth moon. 380000000 m 

the gravitational force between moon and sun is 2x the gravitational force earth moon. Al Gore should explain, how is it possible, that earth holds moon in the orbitt and why moon does not wander to sun, abandonng the orbit.


DEMIZEN's picture

here is an equation that i know is right : gravity = mistery


every retard can observe, collect data,  run a regression, and name it after himself.

desertboy's picture

It's not economic "science" dipshit - it's real, actual science.  

DEMIZEN's picture

why dont you explain it then moron?

desertboy's picture



Totally wrong, naive math.  Both are orbiting the sun.  If you've never modeled a precessing orbital, go get a degree in physics, in a decent school.  Somewhere in advanced level mechanics, you will learn this, assuming you make it that far.

oncemore's picture

Since.when.orbits moon the sun? Do you believe your lying eyes, or do you believe me?
Where is the Discrete force then?
Try to triangulate it as geometry and look for resulting force.
But your answer tells, that you are not a technician, so let us be it.

ElTerco's picture

I think your brain is shorting out from trying to process facts.

oncemore's picture

What escape velocity?
Can you give a formula, like I did?

oncemore's picture

Thanks for the down vote.
Did u make the calculation?

Well you did not u are not capable of multiplication.
I tell you a secret: it is the electrical charge, which complements gravitational field and holds the matter in balance.

Expat's picture

Seriously?  you are claiming that the moon and earth are locked in orbit (as opposed to the moon being sucked into the sun) because of electrical forces?

ha hahahahahahahahahahahahah

oncemore's picture

Yes, I do.
What you learned in the school is 200 years old science.
Poincare's 2body 3body, 5body problem never headed of? Aha!
Then back to the first class.

oncemore's picture

5 Lagrangian points are the proof.
You know, foreigner, cosmos is full of charge and plasma.
Cosmos is not empty.
And when solar system moves through a space, where is less charge, then we get less heat, as the charge get recycled through earth and through sun.
This has enormous influence on the temperature and climate.
You do not get it in MSM and as a science in the school.
You have to learn yourself, how it works.
Even the sun was not our sun just only 5000 years ago, go to YouTube and search Immanuel velikovski, don't be fascist, he was a Jew.

BiggestLoser's picture

The electrical force is 39 orders of magnitude greater than the gravitational force, FE = 1039 FG.

Nobel winner Hannes Alfven said "Gravitational systems are the ashes of electrical systems."

JimmyRainbow's picture

it does. moon wanders away, slowly but steady. the distance to earth grows over time.

oncemore's picture

Yes, moon does. For one it is centrifugal/centripetal force. And for other one it is electrical charge field.
As we fly through galaxy, we get once less and once more charge around solar system.
Is changes the forces of charge and changes the distance.

The heat of the earth is recycled charge, see aurora, as an evidence of charge being recycled.
It is this charge, which POWERS the sun and a s a consequence, there is a nuclear fusion on the sun possible.
All you get inbthe school is a Jesuit science.
Search Halton christian ARP and you will see, that whole NASA is a fake science, as the global warming is.

BiggestLoser's picture

There is also the resonant, frequency and vibration that Tesla investigated.

Internet-is-Beast's picture

Both the earth and the moon are free-falling toward the sun. It's just that the sun keeps moving out of the way. Meanwhile, because both are free-falling into the sun, the moon is also free-falling towards the earth, but the earth keeps moving out of the way of the moon's fall.

oncemore's picture

Give me the math.
I gave you the formulas from Newton and you get the numbers.
Let us do the same.
Look at ke0pler..
Did he say someing about elliptical orbits ? yes he did.
In one focus is the sun, the other one is empty.
Hence all planets should immediately drift away. Or there is any other force ,whivh takes em around the second focus. THIS force is the charged field force, but you do not get it from main stream science.

Internet-is-Beast's picture

The math that you provided applies to a system in which there are three bodies in space without considering orbiting of one body around another. Such a system is equivalent, for example, to having two stones of different masses falling to the ground. Galileo showed in his famous experiment that both the lighter and the heavier stone hit the ground at the same time. So, given that your math does not factor in any lateral motion, but only motion directly toward the most massive body, the sun, you are violating Galileo's conclusion. The sun's gravitation would not cause the moon to be ripped away from the earth. Both would hit the sun at the same time.

The next item you must consider is a two body system with a lighter body orbiting about a heavier body, such as the earth moon system. In such a system the lighter body is affected by two vectors (here's some math for you), the first vector is the linear momentum vector which is tangent to the circular orbit of the smaller body, the second vector is the component of the acceleration vector due to gravity toward the center of the larger body. These vectors are orthogonal. (Note there are two components of the acceleration vector--one points toward the center, the other is tangent to the orbit. The latter is 0 in our case since there is assumed to be no angular acceleration, so we can disregard it.)

As you are aware, there is, for a given masses of the two bodies, an escape velocity such that the lighter body can overcome the gravitational force of the larger body. If the velocity is too small, the small body will fall toward and collide with the heavier body. In between these two is a fixed point in which the lighter body will niether collide with the heavier nor escape its gravitational force (using the intermediate value theorem--ie math). That is a provisional argument against you that does not presume orbiting.

Unfortunately, I have another obligation and cannot conclude this argument, but you can at least get an idea of how to proceed.

Falconsixone's picture

It's 49 degrees here if that helps. Winds 9mph ssw... 

are we there yet's picture

Your math is off.


The moon is only 1.2 % the mass of the earth and less dense in its composition. Gravity is proportional to mass and distance. The sun is several hundred times further away from the earth moon system than the moon is from the earth. Also the lunar tides are massively dominant over the small solar tides.
I suppose in your equation you should have combined M2 +M3 for the earth and moon as a common orbital system.

brewing_it's picture

The moon is leaving the Earth's orbit, it takes a very long time as these celestial bodies, earth and moon are still influenced by each other's gravity. Look it up. 250K years ago, the moon was alot brighter and larger in the night sky, I can only imagine what a full moon looked liked to the proto humans back then.

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quasi_verbatim's picture

If Antarcticera blows, will chunks of ice as big as the Lincoln Memorial rain from the sky?

Mr Hankey's picture

Will any land on Canadia? Ain't Canadia just part of 'murica?

floosy's picture

Wrong end of the world.  Canandia is in the top bit Antartica is in the bottom bit (where it is mostly Dindu country so no one cares except maybe the Bruces and Sheilas down under but they are all too busy being turned into fags and sjws)

AutoLode's picture

None of us can step foot on Antarctica so it's the perfect place for nASA to perpetuate more bullchit

Expat's picture

Hey, assholes, this does not refute climate change science any more than your ability to type with two fingers makes you Nobel prize winners.

zer0's picture

Climate change is real and a natural process, the man-made co2 part of the equation is where the bull starts spraying. Check out Svensmark clouds and grand solar minimum, it may give you something to think about. Also ties into the up-tick in volcanic and seismic activity.

bombdog's picture

As soon as these people find something like the prediction of a "Grand Solar Minimum" they see competition against their grand AGW commie mafia schemes. Come 2030 we'll probably be freezing our balls off and these people will still be spouting their rubbish about CO2 citing the 1000th revision of their climate models. Real assholes.

SmallerGovNow2's picture

A REAL scientist understands photosynthesis and KNOWS for FACT that CO2 is plant food.  Period, end of discussion...

bombdog's picture

Nobody can refute climate science because it's not proper falsifiable science, it's a just bunch of speculation with computers that cannot be verified. Every time the predictions are wrong they just tweak the model, or even now they are tweaking the historical data to match the model! It's a pseudo science validated backed by a "scientific consensus" which is essentially just propaganda. So don't call people assholes, changing recorded historical data to match a theory, that takes a REAL asshole. None of us have that kind of clout in asshole circles. In the "Team America" world we're just dicks, not assholes.

Boonster's picture

You are one dumb motherfucker.

Debugas's picture

Atlantis starship is heating up before launch

Blue Steel 309's picture

This can't be right. It is settled Science-Fiction that only white people melt polar ice caps.

buzzsaw99's picture

99% of the negroes at the post office agree.

Falconsixone's picture

I think this is EL- something? I better go ask the lawn mower guy Jose Cuervo. Those Mexicans know about ocean-n-stuff and earth and weather phenomenon.

shovelhead's picture

How small is my town?

We only have White people at the Post Office.

They had a darkie transferred in but he crashed a mail truck while using drugs. Even AA couldn't save him.

wally_12's picture

Don't forget the telluric current.

CatsPaw's picture

My Ex also used to slide on top of me from the heat I generated.

I have my supervolcano and now she is quickly going into Antarctica size herself.


Nah... Im kidding she is only getting old as Antarctica.