Trump Reverses, Sides With Intel Agencies Over Russia Election Meddling; Offers To Mediate South China Sea Dispute

Tyler Durden's picture

One day after Trump caused the latest round of broad media outrage when he reportedly sided with Putin over Russia's alleged "election interference", while slamming US intel agencies, and repeating his allegation that the investigation is a ‘hoax’, and the FBI a “bunch of hacks,” Trump reversed himself and "cleared up confusion" over whether he accepts Russian President Vladimir Putin’s denials of meddling in the U.S. election last year.

Speaking at a news conference in Vietnam with President Tran Dai Quang on Sunday morning local time, Trump distanced himself from remarks he made one day earlier in which he suggested he believed Putin when he said there had been no Russian meddling in the election that took him to the White House. The comments drew a backlash of criticism at home because US intelligence agencies have long since "concluded" there was Russian meddling.

As a result, Trump was careful to make clear he sided with the intelligence agencies under his own leadership: "What I said is, I believe Putin believes that," Trump told reporters in Hanoi, Vietnam. "I believe that he feels that he and Russia did not meddle in the election. What he believes is what he believes."

Trump then added that "as to whether I believe it or not, I'm with our agencies, especially as currently constituted, with their leadership. I believe in our intel agencies. I've worked with them very strongly."

The comment was made shortly after Trump tweeted that "When will all the haters and fools out there realize that having a good relationship with Russia is a good thing, not a bad thing. There always playing politics - bad for our country. I want to solve North Korea, Syria, Ukraine, terrorism, and Russia can greatly help!"

Still, despite the backlash driven clarification, Trump has repeatedly called allegations of campaign collusion with Moscow a hoax, angering US intel chiefs. U.S. intelligence agencies have also concluded Russians interfered to tip the election in Trump’s favour through hacking and releasing emails to embarrass Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton and spreading social media propaganda, in a year-long attempt to deflect attention from Hillary Clinton's shocking loss, and scapegoat it on outside actors.

On Saturday, former U.S. intelligence director James Clapper told Reuters: “the fact the president of the United States would take Putin at his word over that of the intelligence community is quite simply unconscionable.”

As noted above, Trump's comments siding with intel agencies bizarrely also come after he hit former U.S. intelligence officials by name, including former CIA Director John Brennan, former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper and former FBI Director James Comey. 

"I mean, give me a break, they are political hacks," Trump said on Air Force One, according to White House pool reports. He was discussing the U.S. intelligence community's conclusion that Russia sought to influence the 2016 election in favor of Trump. "So you look at it, I mean, you have Brennan, you have Clapper and you have Comey," he continued. "Comey is proven now to be a liar and he is proven now to be a leaker.”

Separately,  also during his meeting with the Vietnam president, Trump offered to mediate and arbitrate in the dispute over the South China Sea, where four Southeast Asian countries and Taiwan contest China’s sweeping claims to the busy waterway. “I am a very good mediator and a very good arbitrator,” President Trump said during his meeting with Vietnamese President Tran Dai Quang in Hanoi.  “If I can be of help in any way let me know.”

Trump also said that U.S. and Vietnam “will be great trade partners" and added that "we’re going to do a tremendous amount of trade...billions and billions."

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hedgeless_horseman's picture

 

"They are political hacks."

Truth, bitchezzz!!!

Looney's picture

 

Political hacks blaming the Russian hackers. Priceless!  ;-)

Looney

BaBaBouy's picture

What a Fucking Joke...

10hrs  & Flip Flop ...

toady's picture

So much bullshit! It's all media driven memes to keep viewers eyeballs on the screens.

When this meme came out yesterday I knew CNN would work it all day, and it appears they did the "how dare he not believe the CIA" to death, forcing another answer to feed to their trolls.

So stupid!

Future Jim's picture

If Trump now believes that Russia got him elected, then I guess he'll be resigning ...

Escrava Isaura's picture

Pleasing both sides with contradictory statements.

That’s Trump’s trademark of definition of a market.

No other President can get away with these without being totally discredited.

 

Chupacabra-322's picture

The agencies that are supposed to represent the people and enforce the law have morphed into political tools to be used Against The American People. How are you going to get an agency like the FBI to investigate the Clintons when they are in on the scam? 

A score of senior and rank and file agents should have gone to prison for burning all those women and children to death in Waco.  The Clinton Administration gave those agents a pass, and in the process the Clintons purchased the undying support of the agency.  When the very tool you would use to bring down a criminal enterprise has been coopted by that enterprise, you better tread softly.

I am beginning to understand that we are at a tipping point.  People are beginning to grasp the import of agency lies about the assassination of President Kennedy.  It is clear now that the lies were not told to protect the public. 

They were told so that the coconspirators could perfect their coup.  Once the coup was completed successive generations of politicians were given the message.  That message was simple.  We the shadow government can kill anybody we choose.  Look what we did to Kennedy.  You either toe the line or you will send in the cleaners.  Those that would not kao tau to shadow rulers got to meet their John Hinckley or died under suspicious circumstances in some West Texas ranch.

( Doesn’t matter the Criminal alphabet Agencies, the Pure Evil War Criminal Treasonous Seditious Psychopaths at the CIA have decades & Trillions invested over the decades planting “Agent Smiths” in all of them Pentagram MIC included.)

People are beginning to understand that they have been herded by acts of terrorism conducted by their own state.  The scenario of the lone shooter with spectacular marksmanship and fantastic kill rates has lost its credibility. Just another in a lone, long line of “book depository”False Flags.

Trump full well understands that he is in mortal combat with a sinister and entrenched oligarchy.  This is not their first rodeo and they are extremely dangerous.  He has to be sure of his footing before he takes his next step.  By the grace of God, he may just very well be able to pull back the curtain and expose these monsters.

If they manage to kill him, buckle up because any agency with federal in its title will have lost any claim to legitimacy.  The oligarchs tried to steal the election and that failed.  If they steal the election by killing the President, what follows next is a turkey shoot.

Tyrannical Lawlessness.
 

A. Boaty's picture

"I am beginning to understand that we are at a tipping point...."

Chupa, the point already tipped a while ago.

JasperEllings's picture

I'd believe your theory if they didn't seem like such utterly stupid people.

jeff montanye's picture

they are inside a bubble where sycophants surround them and they have gotten away with it for so long when all there was was the utterly co-opted legacy media.  

trump has both exposed them and caused them to expose themselves.  also hillary clinton, who for decades has literally gotten away with murder, both on a personal and a sovereign basis, so believed her own publicity that she left some serious loose ends that were to be tied up when she was president.  too bad so sad.

trump at least knows they hate and fear him and will kill him if they can.  doubtful if kennedy or reagan or even scalia thought so.  

and once a person sees inside these conspiracies s/he can't unsee them.

Blankone's picture

The Presidents that are/were supposed to represent the people and enforce the law have morphed into tools of TPTB/Zionists to be used Against ...

The amount of commitment Trump declares for a cause/issue is not an indication of his convictions but of his needs. As soon as his need changes so does his commitment. Often it appears Trump plans to a stance while also planning to change it later.

Something is brewing in the ME again and it under Trumps admin.. Trump is the one who ramped up the wars and actually attacked Syria directly and increased to movement towards conflict with Iran. It is Trump who approved the huge arms deal for the Saudis. It is Trump who now is increasing the military budgets ever more.

The sheep baa about Trumps support for gun rights because they so want it to be true. Trump herd the sheep and tells them what he needs to only because he still needs them or their support for now. But the orange jew has plans to flip on them and shear them from their guns. It is Trump who is most likely to take your guns during his term.

monk27's picture

Trump is becoming more irrelevant by the day. Next year, the "do nothing" Republicans will lose the Senate majority. That's a given. If the Republicans lose the majority in the House too, expect no delays for an impeachment procedure to be launched by Democrats... Either way, US will be rudderless in a sea of international changes...

Chupacabra-322's picture

@ monk,

“All done by Design, all done by Agenda.”

old naughty's picture

in-deed !

and be mindful of the hidden hand, stirring and stirring...

jeff montanye's picture

on the contrary it is precisely the possibility or even probability that trump will be impeached (and conceivably convicted) that makes this the most precious of moments.  as far as i can tell, trump is innocent of the serious charges of election meddling, etc.  so he will be in a better position than nixon.  but as was said, this is not the clandestine services, or the neocons (some overlap), first rodeo.  but if his cia director, fbi director, attorney general etc. turn against him, doesn't he have to attack them at their most vulnerable points?

that would be the false flags starting with 9-11.  and i would think putin might have some intel of value there.

fajensen's picture

Next year, the "do nothing" Republicans will lose the Senate majority.

That is exactly the plan, then they coast along, lean back, whinging and awhining like 2'nd term Obama ... "b.b.b.b.but We wanted to do so many great & wonderful things all for you folks, but Congress, Evil Bad, Congress stopped us ..."   

The Wizard's picture

Agencies don't function at the pleasure of the "people", rather the Executive and the "persons" who are subject to them.

Chupacabra-322's picture

@ The Wizard,

“Subject” to them?

More like Compromised, Blackmailed, Threatened & Murdered & Executed by them.

Lore's picture

+ 1000.  Good summary.  The psychopaths hold the apex, and do not cede power willingly.  The outcome, collapse, was written even without various other circumstances converging, but given what we now know, the next few years will be particularly memorable.  Let it never be forgotten that we enabled it all by empowering psychopaths. 

Bes's picture

because that's how desperate

folks are for

their orange messiah

-----

their MIC, bankster, goldmanite, saudi, zionist,

police state, civil asset forfeiture, war on cash,

wall street, oligarch

loving

orange messiah

-----

but he's tough on flag kneelers

and his twitter game is "on point"

so all is forgiven

hahahahaha!!!

Escrava Isaura's picture

Exactly.

Trump is in real estate and brand development, which is his name.

Brand developing is to shape perception. That’s what he’s trying to do, because it comes naturally for him. That’s who he is.

Trump is not an ideologue like Bannon, Bernie, or Buchanan. Just check Trump 2000 campaign below.

Trump is an opportunist. Trump only cares about money, power, and winning.

He knows and understands that whatever is said will be forgotten later on.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_presidential_campaign,_2000

 

land_of_the_few's picture

Wouldn't worry, there has been a big suspiciously-coordinated media push over the last day or so on this issue by the Neocon-War-Dems including Fake-R McCain,

this by Trump is just to defend against their lies and manipulation about (fake) "patriotism" etc.

Remember:- "(false) Patriotism is the last refuge of the Scoundrel" http://www.samueljohnson.com/refuge.html

All that talk about "everyone who served is a hero" whether murdering Brown People (or white Slavics) for Commerce, fracking opportunities, imagining they are somehow magically better than Hitler or Napoleon, and so on.

Wouldn't be at all surprised if McCain was coordinating it personally as a media stunt for the Dems. He has shown no loyalty or patriotism for the USA whatsoever himself during this Presidency. Or Obama - Brown Clown vs. Whitey Tighties.

He could be said to be the Representative from Lvov however, Bandera's right-hand man, Galician SS fellow-traveler. Basically a Nazi or Salafist headchopper sympathizer depending on which day, doesn't make any difference, take your pick, disloyal to the West, and to the Allies who fought in WWII either way. He is a leader of the USA-Last movement.

The actual ordinary people from Kiev, apart from the occupying forces, probably hate him and all the Bidens with a passion. Same with pretty much anyone native and sane in the Middle East. You know, shopkeepers, teachers, cafe owners, bakery workers.

He may have been a patriot once. About 40 years ago.

Kayman's picture

Do any of you fucking trolls have any idea what Trump originally said before the Mob's propaganda arm, the Mainstream Media, twisted it into something else.  Yeah, go cash your minimum wage paycheck and go upstairs. Your mom's got your breakfast ready.

robertocarlos's picture

Oh good, I'm hungry. I hope it's lightly burnt toast with butter and peanut butter.

STP's picture

Add a layer of sliced bananas and you've got a real meal!

merizobeach's picture

"Double-talkin' jive, / get the money, motherfucker, / 'cause I got / no more patience / Double-talkin'--lies!-- / no more patience... man"

Chupacabra-322's picture

@ toady,

To state the obvious; the CIA & their Presstitute appendages have deeply humiliated the American people in their attempt to tie the American people to be responsible for the CIA's crimes against humanity across the world.

The CIA appears to be the world's greatest threat to peace and prosperity. It is the penultimate terrorist organization, being the direct or indirect creator of all other terrorist organizations. It also appears to be the world's penultimate illegal drug smuggler and pusher making all other illegal drug trading possible and instigating the horrors of addiction and suffering around the world.

If I believed that the CIA was working in any way on behalf of the US government and the American people then it would be sad and shameful indeed. However, it is my belief that the CIA instead was captured long ago, as was the secret military operations and now works for a hidden power that wants to dominate or failing that, destroy humanity.

The Agency is Cancer. There should be no question about the CIA's future in the US.

Dissolved & dishonored. Its members locked away or punished for Treason. Their reputation is so bad and has been for so long, that the fact that you joined them should be enough to justify arrest and Execution for Treason, Crimes Against Humanity & Crimes Against The American People.

And yet, there is something positive in this. By experiencing and knowing evil, we can choose the path of light or choose to ignore both dark amd light. It is a choice we all must make if we intend to evolve from being animals ruled by this world and its illusions.

MEFOBILLS's picture

Robert David Steele has some well thought out plans for CIA.  Namely breaking it up, separating the spys from the analysis arm.

Trump won't listen to Steele because Trump thinks Cynthia McKinney is a communist.  McKinney is not a communist, but she is a liberal black woman.  An intelligent liberal black woman who has thought through her positions.  She also stood up to Zion during her congressional tenure. (That should be enough to tell you ...not communist, and not a friend of the Jew.)

Trump would do well to consider some of Steeles ideas, especially as regards to reform of NSA and CIA.

 

Chupacabra-322's picture

@ MEFO,

Spy Vs. Spy. Begs the question. Has the Criminal CIA been hacking the NSA & vice versa? The implications in that scenario are gargantuan.

For now, the Pure Evil Criminal Psychopaths at the CIA have been exposed. They cannot out right execute Trump. However, they'll continue to "Neutralize" their enemies accordingly for now.

What's at Stake is the Deep State Global network of MultiNational Central Banking, Espionage, Murder, War, Torture, Destabilization Campaigns, BlackMail, Extortion, Child / Human Trafficking, Drug / Gun Running, Money Laundering, Corruption, NSA spying, Media control & control of the 17 Intelligence Agencies.

That's what's at Stake. How this plays out is anyone's guess. The Pure Evil Criminal Psychopath Rogue elements of the Deep State will not go quietly. If not dealt with now, they'll disappear only to resurface at a later date with one objective:

Total Complete Full Spectrum World Domination they seek through Power & Control.

It's those Select Highly Compartmentalized Criminal Pure Evil Rogue Elements at the Deep State Top that have had control since the JFK Execution that have entrenched themselves for decades & refuse to relinquish Control.

It's The Black Hats Versus The White Hats. Pure Evil War / Economic Oligarch Criminal Dynasties which must fall but refuse.

So what Criminals at large Obama, Clapper & Lynch have done 17 days prior to former CEO Criminal Obama leaving office was to Decentralize & weaken the NSA. As a result, Intel gathering was then regulated to the other 16 Intel Agencies.

Thus, taking Centuries Old Intelligence based on a vey stringent Centralized British Model, De Centralized it, filling the remaining 16 Intel Agenices with potential Spies and a Shadow Deep State Mirror Government.

The Deep State will always exist. However, the Pure Evil Criminal Psychopathic Highly Compartmentalized Rogue Levels of it are being delt with. Which is what the World is witnessing.

As easily as these Criminal “Intelligence” Agencies where formulated in 1947, they can be Eliminated today, recentralized to perhaps one or two & Eliminate the rest.

The National Security Elimination Act of 2017 would achieve jus that.

Interesting Times.

ThirteenthFloor's picture

What’s becoming clear in the last ten years is this; the one President who was on the right track was JFK.

Reign in or abolish the CIA
End the Cold War
Across the board tax cuts - cut loopholes aka oil depletion allowance
US treasury issued silver certs.
Pull out of guagmires aka Vietnam
A non-nuclear weaponized Israel + nuclear test ban treaty
Work on domestic tranquility through civil liberties
Build US infrastructure (26 Dams under JFK) for the future

So the deep state needed to put an end to all that good stuff, and take the country back under a coup. If this is not crystal clear today you are under a rock.

redmudhooch's picture

From 2012 but still important...

Atlanta Jewish Times featured a column by its owner-publisher suggesting that U.S.-based  Israeli Mossad agents might someday need to “order a hit” on the president of the United States.

http://original.antiwar.com/alison-weir/2012/01/24/israeli-assassination...

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/284979-ajt.html

On Jan. 13 the Atlanta Jewish Times featured a column by its owner-publisher suggesting that Israel might someday need to “order a hit” on the president of the United States.

In the column, publisher Andrew Adler describes a scenario in which Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu would need to “give the go-ahead for U.S.-based Mossad agents to take out a president deemed unfriendly to Israel.”

The purpose? So that the vice president could then take office and dictate U.S. policies that would help the Jewish state “obliterate its enemies.”

Adler wrote that it is highly likely that the idea “has been discussed in Israel’s most inner circles.”

Numerous Jewish leaders quickly condemned Adler, who has now apologized for the column, resigned, and put the newspaper up for sale. An Israeli columnist noted that the hatred being stirred up against Obama is similar to conditions in Israel that led to the murder of Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin by a Jewish extremist.

Max Hunter's picture

Anyone who thinks this is actually an issue amongst the elite and not a huge distraction amongst the plebs is an absolute moron.  I hate being that way about it, but it really needs to be said.

lucitanian's picture

"I believe that he feels that he and Russia did not meddle in the election. As to whether or not I believe it or not, I'm with our agencies"     =  Politicking

"When will all the haters and fools out there realize that having a good relationship with Russia is a good thing, not a bad thing. "  =    Reality

But, in his position he seldom is given the luxury of dealing with reality. That's why a reality TV personality holds the job. Unfortunately the audience doesn't realize that it's a show that they don't really write the script for and really with all his Zionist commitments you really don't want his influenced decision anyway. 

But the show must go on. 

 

 

Beowulf55's picture

OK...I'm confused....I think I am suffering from cognitive dissonance.

chunga's picture

As long as he refuses to talk to, or even acknowledge Assange I'm calling him a fake news fraud that I won't vote for next time around. That's if I even bother to vote and as it stands right now I probably will not.

dirty fingernails's picture

Bingo, Its all just a song and dance. Faux opposition so he has cover for his administration doing exactly the same things as the previous administrations: looting and establishing their golden parachute hideaways.

Lumberjack's picture

“I'm with our agencies"

He’s with her -> too....

Looks like a lot of folks drank the covfefe...Hillary is still running around making millions, dog and pony show at justice... and of course “The Club” we ain’t in”....

In Kfar Vradim, an Israeli town just south of the frontier, David Deshe expects the worst. “Last time we had a couple of dozen rockets,” said the army reservist and business-owner (who counts a Warren Buffett-owned factory among his neighbors).

http://www.sentinelsource.com/news/national_world/despite-diplomatic-sil...

Why are these billionaires doubling down on Israeli Investments?
What do Bill Gates, Carlos Slim Helu, Mark Cuban, Donald Trump, and Warren Buffett all have in common?

Http://blog.ourcrowd.com/why-are-these-billionaires-doubling-down-on-isr...

Steve Bannon to Address Zionist Organization of America

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/11/11/bannon-address-zionis...

Chupacabra-322's picture

The National Security Elimination Act of 2017.

The Deep State comprises of the following Criminal Entites as per Kevin Shipp Former CIA Officer Anti-Terrorism Specialist.

CIA
NSA
DOJ
FBI
DHS
DOD
DOS
IRS
EPA
NOAA
NWS

Effective immediately defund, Eliminate & Supeona it's Agents, Officials & Dept. Heads in regard to the Mass Surveillance, Global Espionage Spying network & monitoring of a President Elect by aforementioned Agencies & former President Obama, AG Lynch & DIA James Clapper.

The CIA can not only hack into anything -- they can download any "evidence" they want onto your phone or computer.  Child pornography, national secrets, you name it.  Then they can blackmail you, threatening prosecution for whatever crap they have planted, then "found" on your computer.    They can also "spoof" the source of such downloads -- for instance, if they want to "prove" that something on your computer (or Donald Trump's computer) came from a "Russian source"  -- they can spoof the IP address of a Russian source.

The take-away:  no digital evidence the CIA or NSA produces on any subject whatsoever can be trusted.  No digital evidence should be acceptable in any case where the government has an interest, because they have the complete ability to fabricate and implant any evidence on any iphone or computer.  And worse:  they have intentionally created these digital vulnerabilities and pushed them onto the whole world via Microsoft and Google.     Government has long been at war with liberty, claiming that we need to give up liberty to be secure.  Now we learn that they have been deliberately sabotaging our security, in order to augment their own power.  Time to shut down the CIA and all the other spy agencies.  They're not keeping us free OR secure, and they're doing it deliberately.  Their main function nowadays seems to be lying us into wars against countries that never attacked us, and had no plans to do so.

TahoeBilly2012's picture

More than "political hacks", satanic Deep State cretins!

skbull44's picture

I use to be indecisive, now I'm not so sure...

https://olduvai.ca

Yukon Cornholius's picture

OT, because I'm surprised ZH didn't pick this up, but...

Did any of you cryptomaniacs catch last nights BCC action? I cashed some out at the top and managed to catch BTC at the bottom last night. Best Saturday night I've had in a while.

On topic...Clapper needs to get clapped...and soon.

dark pools of soros's picture

i sold a few days too soon since exchanges have been acting fucked ... i still pour one out for btc-e

veritas semper vinces's picture

Is this the score?

I have read this in RT ,all the Donald's statements,reverses,blah,blah.

I can say it is really embarrassing. He can not even make an intelligent phrase.

Eyes Opened's picture

My nu nickname for the POTUS is...

 

https://youtu.be/azEOeTX1LqM

 

:-)

Giant Meteor's picture

White man speak with forked tongue ..

Black man did too ..

Thanks for playing !

ThirteenthFloor's picture

That’s the way all recent POTUS treat Russia - shake hands we’re friends or let’s make deal - when face to face. When they leave or turn their back, we change our tune, flip the cards, or reneg. Standard US policy.

It is most funny seeing people assign some master strategy to Trump in all this...it’s like trying to justify a recent purchase by saying it’s great, while inside you know all along it’s a piece of shit. It’s coming down to bullets or ballots, and the latter is just not working out.