What Will Push Them Over The Edge?

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Authored by Jeff Thomas via InternationalMan.com,

Recently, the people of two of Italy’s most prosperous regions voted in a referendum, on whether they wished to have greater autonomy from Rome.

The referendum is non-binding, but that’s not what’s most significant in the results.

What is significant is that over 95% of those who voted in Lombardy did so in favour of greater autonomy. In Veneto, the number in favour of greater autonomy was even higher, at 98%.

Roberto Maroni, president of Lombardy, said, “I now have a commitment… to go to Rome and give concrete actualization to the mandate that millions of Lombards have given me.”

It may appear on the surface that Mister Maroni intends to make an appeal for independence, but this is not what will occur. He’s a politician and won’t invite Rome to jail him for sedition. His goal will instead be to demand that a greater amount of the national income that’s generated by Lombardy and Veneto (about 20% of the total) remains within those regions.

This will not mean that he wants his people to be taxed less; his goal will be to retain a larger portion to be absorbed by the regional governments—to be in his own hands.

So much for the politicians’ agenda. But what does the referendum say about the people of the regions? Well, the extraordinarily high numbers in favour of greater self-determination demonstrate that virtually all the people in the regions have figured out that Rome is bilking them of their earnings and they’re getting pretty cheesed off.

In prosperous times, a population tends not to complain too much about being robbed through taxation. They grumble a bit, but tolerate it. However, in more stringent times, when people are finding it more difficult to make ends meet, they become more resentful of governments that are chronically both overreaching and wasteful.

Since 2008, we’ve been living in such a time, and the longer people go on without a true recovery, the more resentful they’re going to be.

Independence movements have been afoot in many countries in Europe, every state in the USA, and elsewhere on the globe, but, until recently, they’ve been minor issues, attracting primarily fringe support.

Brexit changed all that, as the people of one of the illustrious G7 countries voted to remove themselves from the parasitical EU.

This, of course, inspired the voters of “lesser” countries to consider the possibility of independence more seriously.

Some of these movements have been efforts by largely dependent entities such as Scotland to express the resentment of being the poor step-sister to a more prosperous central government, but others have been the result of the growing resentment that the province or region that’s producing the lion’s share of the national revenue is routinely having it siphoned off by the central government.

It’s predictable that any regional political leader will like the idea of independence, so that he can create his own country and become its president. However, in the present environment, we’re seeing the people of Lombardy, Veneto, Kurdish Iraq, and Catalonia voting overwhelmingly in favour of either full separation, or at least, greater autonomy.

Of course, this can’t be tolerated by the central governments, as it means that they’ll be losing all that revenue and, in many cases, this would collapse their economy.

But, at present, we’re looking at only the thin end of the wedge. There are countless other provinces and regions out there that have a similar desire to secede, and justifiably so.

After all, much of Europe, until the last century or so, was not made up of large countries. It was made up of lots of little tribal areas that sometimes worked collectively. Even the Roman Empire began as a collection of provinces.

Whilst we, today, are accustomed to a world map that’s remained largely the same throughout our lifetimes, there’s actually nothing sacred in the borders that were drawn on maps decades ago, often by people who had never been to those locales (in the case of former colonies and conquered areas). The smaller, tribal areas made more sense and actually worked more in favour of the inhabitants.

But, since World War II, the world has been headed in the direction of über states. The Unites States had already led the way in the late 18th century, but in recent times, the EU was formed and repeatedly expanded. In addition, many organisations have joined groups of countries together (ASEAN, Mercosur, Caricom, etc.).

In each case, the über states were created without the expressed majority interest of the voters. (In EU countries, referenda were sometimes held, but, in no case did a majority of voters vote in favour of joining the EU. The leaders did it in spite of the lack of support.)

Invariably, the über states were created by the political leaders and for the political leaders.

Not surprisingly, in each case in which the people of a province, state, or region have expressed a desire to secede, the central government has forcefully opposed secession. (The Americans fought their civil war, not over slavery, but over secession.)

Today, states such as Texas, which have repeatedly stated both their right and interest in possible secession, have been advised that, if they make such an attempt, they’ll be met with whatever force is required to stop it.

In Catalonia, we’re watching a standoff build between the leaders in Barcelona and Madrid, as each event unfolds.

And Catalonia is a good example of a further reason for a central government to resist the departure of a province: Should Catalonia succeed, there’s the likelihood that the adjoining regions of Valencia and the Balearic Islands might also be inspired to make an exit from Spain, and for the very same reason—because they’re the revenue producers and are having Madrid siphon off their earnings, to be spent on less-productive regions.

Governments have had a long history of claiming, “If we don’t all stick together, we’ll be doomed.” However, historically, the aggressors, more often than not, have been the empires. The smaller a country, the more likely it is to mind its own business.

In addition, the smaller a country, the more closely its leaders are to their people and, correspondingly, the more responsive they are to the people’s needs and goals.

The great majority of the armed conflict that exists today exists either in the larger countries, or, more often, due to the aggression of larger countries.

Brexit has most certainly been the cause of a trend for smaller entities to get up the courage to back away from the parasitical central governments. The hope would be that this trend will expand dramatically.

There can be no doubt that there are those who believe in and are doing their utmost to create a New World Order (they’ve been stating their intent for over a hundred years). Yet, just as we seem to be moving headlong in this direction, a reversal has begun to take place at the same time.

There can be no doubt that the reversal will be resisted strenuously; however, as the voting described above attests, this is a ground-up trend, not a government-generated trend, and, historically, strong ground-up trends have had a healthy track record of success.

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Idaho potato head's picture

The smaller a country, the more likely it is to mind its own business.

with any luck this could be the US fate.

Déjà view's picture

Don't hear much about Süd Tirol...which was part of Austria...before WW l...

Lore's picture

...and Western Canada's.  It's been attempted before, but the ball got fumbled.  Maybe it's finally time to cut the cord. 

Edit: Apparently not. Keep the transfer payments flowing...

quadraspleen's picture

It's not a real revolution until the millennials are out on the streets....holding up their iPhones

Kprime's picture

we've come so far.  back in the day all we had to hold up was Bic lighter.  further back great grandfather had a straw torch.

time marches on.

jeff montanye's picture

i can think of a pretty big exception to this rule.  

hint: it has about 10,000 square miles under its control (little bigger than vermont), has about 10.5 million people, the adults of 6.5 million of which can vote, the adults of the other 4 million cannot.

any guesses?

ted41776's picture

wait, so they actually thought they could vote their way out of EU slavery? LULZ  good luck with that

c2nnib2l's picture

Its their last minute com call 

Before they establisg EU army

Twee Surgeon's picture

No one cares and people are just sitting and waiting for the day that every semi-coherent person knows is coming. there is no moving forward, only complying with the upwards push from Fed Tank and buy the dip and nothing is real and everything is groovy. The Collapse of all collapses ? Some soft fuckers are going to get a fast edjumacation.

Gohigher's picture

Upvote from the usage of Dubya's Dictionary.
Mission Acomplimished.

nati's picture

Personally, I am looking forward to the day when I am able to sleep late in my Hong Kong cage-style box and still receive a Universal Basic Income, which I will spend on Monsanto GMO weed and VR porn. Although I won't have privacy or freedom, life will be easy and convenient. What could go wrong?

Gohigher's picture

The Matrix defaults on the power bill and the hooked up cannot supply the required electricity. Rolling blackouts will be a bitch. (or a blessing)

Overflow's picture

Victimistic snowflakes everywhere. 


  Communities often mess everything and then, instead of assuming their situation is consequence of their believings and decisions, they are sheepherded to blame some kind of fantasy oppression; hepteropatriarchy, racism, white privilege,  "a fascist" central government,  who cares. 

Déjà view's picture

Awaken from siesta?

Tie a Yellow Ribbon around old 'Cork' Tree for Cataluña...

Rex Andrus's picture

Divide and rule. Payback is coming.

Déjà view's picture

Cataluña to hire fierce Serbian Chetniks...payback for España 1992 agreement on Yugoslavian breakup...

Debugas's picture

Are they ready to take guns into their hands to fight for their freedom ?

Nope ?

I thought so

dunderduck's picture

Little Holland minded its own business... and kicked some serious ass for almost 350 years in South Africa, Sri Lanka, India, Indonesia, Taiwan, Japan, ....

FreeEarCandy's picture

Only when one has nothing more to loose will one move towards the edge. Not enough pain and sense of loss yet. The  Americans will sell themselves for trinkets and beads. Can't buy a loaf of bread with justice so there is no level of injustice that will give rise to a revolution in America. As long as there is a crumb on the table and a manufactured story of false hope the American people will support any amount of nonsense. As the article pointed out, people tend not to mind being taxed so much when they are experiencing good economic conditions.  

Considering that the worlds wealth is now in the hands of fewer people, we will likely see the revolutions occur in the smaller economies first.

NCIzzy's picture

People: we would like to be free

Government: you are free.

People: great! in that case, we'd like to leave.

Government: you are all under arrest.

RedBaron616's picture

Look for the facts in this story that AREN'T GIVEN. Nowhere doe it say what overall percentage of registered voters voted.  I suspect those numbers were left out on purpose.

Unless these various regions are armed and willing to fight to leave, nothing is going to happen. Just a repeat of Spain and Catalonia. Everyone gets all fired up, but nothing will change. No other nations will recognize them and they won't be allowed to join the EU. So this is a tempest in a teapot. Nothing will change. We return you to our regularly scheduled programming.

Flibbertigibbet's picture

Rome, you say? Surely you mean The Ubholy Romanesque VaEUmpire, more broadly.

"This agglomeration which was called and which still calls itself the Holy Roman Empire was neither holy, nor Roman, nor an empire." - Voltaire

rtb61's picture

Often the reality is the smaller really wealthy bits of countries make their money by parasiting of the rest of the country. When they achieve independence they often find themselves cut off from that revenue and whoops they are the ones that go bankrupt, whilst the country they left thrives under retained and reinvested revenue.

When you are a tiny tin pot nothing sitting on a mound of fiat currency and no resources but think you can parasite off everyone else with that pile of fiat currency, don't be surprised when laws are changed by the countries with resources to cripple your fiat currency and leave you bankrupt. Sure you might manage it for a while but inevitably they will kill your currency and with that any claims of debt and simply take their resources elsewhere.

Resources retain value, capital is nothing but an illusion maintained by force and that illusion ultimately lacks the resources to sustain that illusion and that illusions collapses when the resources are cut off (you need resources to fight a war, not capital).

shovelhead's picture


So what are the wealthy productive parts of Italy getting out of the barren rock, migrant infested, Southern Italy and Sicily?

Is selling them products they can't provide themselves parasitical? Would it matter to them to sell elsewhere?

The fact is that some locations produce value (surplus, wealth) whether through industry, resources, or trading, while others do not.

Why should one region be disproportionally taxed to subsidize their less industrious neighbors? Let each live within their means. One could easily make the rational argument that the subsidy is holding back creative enterprise by allowing the subsidized to live life beyond the means that would be acceptable without it, by removing the drive it takes to succeed.


DrData02's picture

Small countries can't afford biig expensive weapons.  And they can't afford the cost of extensive "practice" with them.  The MIC will fight the transition back to small countries like demons.

dunce's picture

thev world looked at our sucess and often tried to emulate our country but our country started with a blank slate and was not hampered by established systems. Other countries have built in divisions with their neighbors plus the anchor of large groups of socialists.