Is America Really 'Up' For A Second Cold War?

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Authored by Patrick Buchanan via Buchanan.org,

After the 19th national congress of the Chinese Communist Party in October, one may discern Premier Xi Jinping’s vision of the emerging New World Order.

By 2049, the centennial of the triumph of Communist Revolution, China shall have become the first power on earth.

Her occupation and humiliation by the West and Japan in the 19th and 20th centuries will have become hated but ancient history.

America will have been pushed out of Asia and the western Pacific back beyond the second chain of islands.

Taiwan will have been returned to the motherland, South Korea and the Philippines neutralized, Japan contained. China’s claim to all the rocks, reefs and islets in the South China Sea will have been recognized by all current claimants.

Xi’s “One Belt, One Road” strategy will have brought South and Central Asia into Beijing’s orbit, and he will be in the Pantheon beside the Founding Father of Communist China, Mao Zedong.

Democracy has been rejected by China in favor of one-party rule of all political, economic, cultural and social life.

And as one views Europe, depopulating, riven by secessionism, fearful of a Third World migrant invasion, and America tearing herself apart over politics and ideology, China must appear to ambitious and rising powers as the model to emulate.

Indeed, has not China shown the world that authoritarianism can be compatible with national growth that outstrips a democratic West?

Over the last quarter century, China, thanks to economic nationalism and $4 trillion in trade surpluses with the United States, has exhibited growth unseen since 19th-century America.

Whatever we may think of Xi’s methods, this vision must attract vast numbers of China’s young — they see their country displace America as first power, becoming the dominant people on earth.

What is America’s vision? What is America’s cause in the 21st century? What is the mission and goal that unites, inspires and drives us on?

After World War II, America’s foreign policy was imposed upon her by the terrible realities the war produced: brutalitarian Stalinist domination of Eastern and Central Europe and much of Asia.

Under nine presidents, containment of the Soviet empire, while avoiding a war that would destroy civilization, was our policy. In Korea and Vietnam, Americans died in the thousands to sustain that policy.

But with the collapse of the Soviet Empire and the breakup of the USSR, it seemed that by 1992 our great work was done. Now democracy would flourish and be embraced by all advanced peoples and nations.

But it did not happen. The “end of history” never came. The New World Order of Bush I did not last. Bush II’s democracy crusade to end tyranny in our world produced disasters from Libya to Afghanistan.

Authoritarianism is now ascendant and democracy is in retreat.

Is the United States prepared to accept a world in which China, growing at twice our rate, more united and purposeful, emerges as the dominant power? Are we willing to acquiesce in a Chinese Century?

Or will we adopt a policy to ensure that America remains the world’s preeminent power?

Do we have what is required in wealth, power, stamina and will to pursue a Second Cold War to contain China, which, strategic weapons aside, is more powerful and has greater potential than the Soviet Union ever did?

On his Asia tour, President Trump spoke of the “Indo-Pacific,” shorthand for the proposition that the U.S., Japan, Australia and India form the core of a coalition to maintain the balance of power in Asia and contain the expansion of China.

Yet, before we create some Asia-Pacific NATO to corral and contain China in this century, as we did the USSR in the 20th century, we need to ask ourselves why.

Does China, even if she rises to surpass the U.S. in manufacturing, technology and economic output, and is a comparable military power, truly threaten us as the USSR did, to where we should consider war to prevent its expansion in places like the South China Sea that are not vital to America?

While China is a great power, she has great problems.

She is feared and disliked by her neighbors. She has territorial quarrels with Russia, India, Vietnam, the Philippines, Japan. She has separatists in Tibet and Xinjiang. Christianity is growing while Communism, the state religion, is a dead faith. Moreover, the monopoly of power now enjoyed by the Communist Party and Xi Jinping mean that if things go wrong, there is no one else to blame.

Finally, why is the containment of China in Asia the responsibility of a United States 12 time zones away?

For while China seeks to dominate Eurasia, she appears to have no desire to threaten the vital interests of the United States. China’s Communism appears to be an ideology disbelieved by her own people, that she does not intend to impose it on Asia or the world.

Again, are we Americans up for a Second Cold War, and, if so, why?

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NemesisteM's picture

We can win this thing 1 Walmart transaction at a time.

Government needs you to pay taxes's picture

Beware the nation whose sole manufacturing capability is military hardware and whose monetary and fiscal policy is based on Jew-E and fiatbux.

NoDecaf's picture

We have a whole solar system to explore and develop. Why do we need governments to impede that with stupid "world wars"? Fighting over resources here...pfft

IH8OBAMA's picture

Fuck the Chinese.  We are the ones who pulled them up out of their hole starting with Nixon and we can put them back there.

But this is a Buchanan article.  Sometimes he's right and sometimes he's wrong but he's ALWAYS controversial for effect.

 

The_Juggernaut's picture

The bigger China gets, the harder it'll be for them to feed themselves, especially as they pollute their lands as they grow.  Good fucking luck with that>

kralizec's picture

Better question is...who are the new cold warriors?

Democrats of old - Pro-Russia...now they're Anti-Russia on all things and trying to start a hot war to save their sorry asses...

Ps-No Red/Blue Team crap, I know there is little if any difference, I'm just sayin' one of the Establishment teams is pushing this shit more than the other...

Nobody For President's picture

Right. Billary lost because of the russian hacking.

JRobby's picture

Did the USSR ever threaten the US?

Cuba was retaliation for US missles placed in Europe no?

Eisenhower: "Beware the Military Industrial Complex"

Gen'rals gathered in their masses,
Just like witches at black masses
Evil minds that plot destruction,
Sorcerer of death's construction
In the fields the bodies burning,
As the war machine keeps turning
Death and hatred to mankind,
Poisoning their brainwashed minds
Oh Lord yeah
Politicians hide themselves away
They only started the war
Why should they go out to fight?
They leave that role for the poor, yeah Time will tell on their power minds,
Making war just for fun
Treating people just like pawns in chess,
Wait 'till their judgement day comes, yeah Now in darkness world stops turning,
Ashes where the bodies burning
No more War Pigs have the power,
Hand of God has struck the hour
Day of judgement, God is calling
On their knees the war pigs crawling,
Begging mercies for their sins
Satan, laughing, spreads his wings
Oh Lord yeah Songwriters: Michael "Geezer" Butler / Ozzy Osbourne / Tony Iommi / William Ward
Slomotrainwreck's picture

We're on the eve of destruction

The eastern world it is exploding
Violence flarin', bullets loadin'
You're old enough to kill but not for votin'
You don't believe in war but whats that gun you're totin'?
And even the Jordan River has bodies floatin'

But you tell me
Over and over and over again my friend
Ah, you don't believe
We're on the eve of destruction

Don't you understand what I'm tryin' to say
Can't you feel the fears I'm feelin' today?
If the button is pushed, there's no runnin' away
There'll be no one to save with the world in a grave
Take a look around you boy, it's bound to scare you boy

And you tell me
Over and over and over again my friend
Ah, you don't believe
We're on the eve of destruction

Yeah my blood's so mad feels like coagulating
I'm sitting here just contemplatin'
I can't twist the truth it knows no regulation
Handful of senators don't pass legislation
And marches alone can't bring integration
When human respect is disintegratin'
This whole crazy world is just too frustratin'

And you tell me
Over and over and over again my friend
Ah, you don't believe
We're on the eve of destruction

Think of all the hate there is in Red China
Then take a look around to Selma, Alabama
You may leave here for four days in space
But when you return it's the same old place
The pounding of the drums, the pride and disgrace
You can bury your dead but don't leave a trace
Hate your next door neighbor but don't forget to say grace

And tell me
Over and over and over and over again my friend
You don't believe
We're on the eve of destruction
Mmm, no, no, you don't believe
We're on the eve of destruction

P F Sloan 1964, Barry McGuire vocals.

Stuck on Zero's picture

If I'm not mistaken the US lost the last cold war to Russia. Now they have a small government and free economy and we have the be communists government and socialist economy.

TBT or not TBT's picture

The problem the Chinese have, besides massive malinvestment on a scale never imagined, is the hangover from the one child policy. They’re graying at warp factor 7.

YUNOSELL's picture

"We need to do something about this unfair trade balance deficit" says Trump

"We have now just allocated an additional $800 billion to our military" in next freaking breath

A) Yeah we really have the money for this when we keep getting ever more in debt, and B) Nice subtle threat!

a Smudge by any other name's picture

The overall question as put by this piece is adequately answered with a big fat NO. It doesn't matter if Americans either don't care or have given up caring, the fact is we're on our own, government doesn't represent us and government has no reason to listen to us. That's a done deal. The question is ironic given our rulers handed our IP, manufacturing capability and freaking General Motors itself to China. This isn't lost on anybody who ever wore Carhartts to work instead of a business suit.

NoDebt's picture

There's always plenty of money for war.  So, yes.

 

davinci7_gis's picture

I agree there will be war, but the US doesn't have a "greatest" generation to fight for it like we had in WW2.  My gut feeling is that the national pride the Chinese people have will overtake the apathatic attitute of our young people today and the US will not win a war with China.  I hope I am wrong.

TBT or not TBT's picture

The war with China is already won. They made a lot of great stuff for us destroying themselves in the process and received in return...promises. Old age is sweeping them away. Unless they go all Mao again, except this time killing off the decrepit. Confucian that ain’t.

FreeShitter's picture

Hey pat just name "them".....you can do it.

Yukon Cornholius's picture

Pat thinks Korea and Vietnam were about muh communism. Just let him have his retired Green Beret moment.

Son of Captain Nemo's picture

Speaking of wars of choice and the "debts" they incur given the last 16 years alone...

Hope this helps (http://www.unz.com/tsaker/israel-saudi-arabia-setting-preconditions-for-...)

Wouldn't want to be an active duty American jumping from one cauldron in the South China Sea to one in Eastern Europe to one in the Middle East.

At this stage you know you'll die in combat in one of the first of the 3 places they send you to, so you might as well cut your losses and exact your revenge by burning down your "own House" in Washington D.C. that made your abject failure everywhere else "possible" in order to save you the trouble!

Just sayin.

Son of Captain Nemo's picture

CONUS getting "shellaced" when USD meets it's inevitable fate like this (https://www.rt.com/business/410138-putin-northern-sea-route/)!...

Son of Captain Nemo's picture

Is America Really 'Up' For A Second Cold War?

By the way Patrick the "Cold War" left the station after the coup in Ukraine during Russia's Sochi Winter Games and the total defeat of the U.S. military in Syria!

With $24 trillion in debt + $155 trillion in unfunded liability behind it It's "HOT" from here on out should we choose to up the ante anymore than we already have!

BigJim's picture

As long as the rest of the world keeps paying for oil with $'s, and as long as their bought-and-paid-for governments buy US government debt, the deficits, debt, and "unfunded" liabilities are completely irrelevant.

Son of Captain Nemo's picture

BJ

That's the problem it's all coming to a very "ABRUPT END"!

In case you hadn't read this one yet - http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-24/its-huge-story-china-launching-...

It's a "club" that includes the PRC, Russian Federation and Iran that holds the "energy card" and the United States and it's ever worthless $$$ failing miserably in it's attempt to control that "energy" AIN'T IN IT!!!

Son of Captain Nemo's picture

Special delivery!...

From Russia with love (https://southfront.org/nuclear-powered-submarine-prince-vladimir-was-flo...)

And oh my... But they are packin these (http://www.mashpedia.com/RSM-56_Bulava) just in time to wish ALL OF U.S. a Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year!

webmatex's picture

China and Russ have some amazing tech for their budget but not much bang for the $800 billion defense budget buck.

They couldn't create a black hole so they invented the F35.

E.F. Mutton's picture

Put on some pajamas, have some cocoa, sign up for healthcare and fight the Chinese.

 

Mr. Pain's picture

The answer is in the history of the USA. We love war and death so yes, we will resist.

Sagnihc Nam's picture

We control China since we buy all their crap. If the stopped production today some other country would gladly do it tomorrow.

 

I woke up's picture

Yeah, other countries are just sitting on all the infrastructure to support manufacturing and they are waiting by the phone for your order

Agent P's picture

Believe it or not, we actually buy less than 20% of their crap.  

peddling-fiction's picture

Do you have a link to those stats?

peddling-fiction's picture

Thx.

18.3% of Chinese exports go the US of A.

falak pema's picture

A word of caution on these stats :

China exported 52 billion $ worth to France. I don't see that in these charts.

peddling-fiction's picture

+1 All official stats should be taken with a grain of salt.

Do you have a stat link?

Agent P's picture

"By 2049, the centennial of the triumph of Communist Revolution, China shall have become the first power on earth."

They'll become #1 and lots of people from other countries will try to immigrate there, and they'll have to build a huge wall to keep them out....

Government needs you to pay taxes's picture

Once that Silk Road gets built, all the niggers in Africa can come to China for a visit, maybe even stay forever.

davinci7_gis's picture

I hate to say this but the Chinese are the MOST prejudice of all people.  They will never let blacks or other minorities in...even if to be indentured servants.

Peacefulwarrior's picture

True Dat have witnessed this first hand, they won't even let a woman of color dance for them at a peeler bar.

Mr Hankey's picture

& that is why they are the Master Race.WT will be extinct& (((they ))) will be completely assimilated into the muddy hordes.

davinci7_gis's picture

You're exactly right and there will be guns on that wall keeping the rif-raf out!

I Write Code's picture

We are in two new cold wars, one against the "democrats" and another against the "republicans".

RedDwarf's picture

The world is now far to interconnected for a sustained cold war to be possible between major economic powers.

taketheredpill's picture

Blather.

And it's still a Democracy...ONE DOLLAR ONE VOTE.

 

Akzed's picture

May 11, 2017 06:53 AM

The Kushner family could have avoided the controversy they find themselves in over courting rich Chinese investors if they had only talked to Idaho Gov. Butch Otter.

Nicole Meyer is the sister of Jared Kushner, President Trump’s son-in-law and special adviser. Meyer pitched rich Chinese on investing in a New Jersey luxury development by the family-owned Kushner Cos. last week, and referred to her brother in making her appeal. The sales job came hours after Trump who campaigned criticizing China and promising to get tough on immigration signed the budget bill that reauthorized the program that gives foreign investors green cards if they invest a minimum $500,000 in projects that create jobs in the U.S.

~

This kinda thing pops up organically all the time, a perfectly natural development, woulda happened regardless of who Jared Kushner's father-in-law was.

Read more here: http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/letters-from...

 

lester1's picture

Apple to buy ROKU ?

falak pema's picture

In this age of Doctor Strangelove's legacy and its antidotal cry of "never again", war is not the solution.

Hubris killed Pax Americana it has lost its vision. The last fifty years are ample testimony to the corruption of the American dream and as consequence the loss of its political preeminence.

We now enter an age of multipolarity; riven  by tectonic divides of human construct between three land masses :

Asia where China will dominate; Europe/Africa where North controls South but for how long and how will the ethnic/cultural divide play out?; and the Americas which are far from being a common legacy; where North moves to multiracial-multicultural diversity in two decades and the SOuth trails like a multicultural relic lost in surrogate games of despotic bent. Will the North be able to refind its democratic flame. I don't see why not but after a period of painful reappraisal to refind the fire of its inception in a new mixed breed environment.

What binds humanity if anything? Will it be the eternal war of Troy repeated; glory to victor and humiliation to defeated?

If so, we head for perpetual Mordor. As the timeline of mythology says Man is not fit to be image of perfection; just a passing from reptile to mammal; evolution will move on to something more cyborgian.

If not we have resilience and can still be the best type of living organism, but we still have to find a new way out; based on the lessons of the past; of which "never again" has to be a paramount ethical and survivalist red line.

If we forget the past we repeat it. That is a given.