Kushner Is "Senior Official" Who Ordered Flynn To Contact Russia

Tyler Durden's picture

When commenting on the Flynn plea deal with Mueller, we said that while hardly evidence of collusion between Trump and Russia, especially since all events took place after the election, the real question is who was the "senior member of the transition team" that instructed Flynn to call Russia. Now, according to Bloomberg's Eli Lake we may have the answer: none other than Jared Kushner, who as Lake says, "could be one of the next dominoes to fall."

According to the Bloomberg report, "one of Flynn’s lies to the FBI was when he said that he never asked Russia's ambassador to Washington, Sergey Kislyak, to delay the vote for the U.N. Security Council resolution. The indictment released today from the office of special prosecutor Robert Mueller describes this lie: "On or about December 22, 2016, Flynn did not ask the Russian Ambassador to delay the vote on or defeat a pending United Nations Security Council resolution." At the time, the U.N. Security Council resolution on Israeli settlements was a big deal. Even though the Obama administration had less than a month left in office, the president instructed his ambassador to the United Nations to abstain from a resolution, breaking a precedent that went back to 1980 when it came to one-sided anti-Israel resolutions at the U.N.

This was the context of Kushner's instruction to Flynn last December. One transition official at the time said Kushner called Flynn to tell him he needed to get every foreign minister or ambassador from a country on the U.N. Security Council to delay or vote against the resolution. Much of this appeared to be coordinated also with Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu, whose envoys shared their own intelligence about the Obama administration's lobbying efforts to get member stats to support the resolution with the Trump transition team.  

As Lake correctly notes, "for now it's unclear what to make of all of this" especially since th most important part of a case is missing: motive.

We also know from Flynn's "statement of the offense" that he lied to FBI agents as the bureau was investigating Russia's meddling in the 2016 election and any links between Russia and the Trump campaign in this period. Nonetheless, nothing in the Flynn plea sheds any light on whether the Trump campaign actually colluded with Russia to influence the election.

Here there are two possibilities: one bad for Trump, and one innocuous. As ABC News reported on Friday, Flynn is prepared to tell Mueller's team that Trump had instructed him to make contact with Russia during the campaign itself.

"If those contacts involved the emails the U.S. intelligence community charges Russia stole from leading Democrats, then Mueller will have uncovered evidence of actual collusion between the president and a foreign adversary during the election. Impeachment could then be in the cards."

That's the bad case. But, Lake concedes, it's also possible that the Justice Department became interested in Flynn's initial conversation with Kislyak on other, less explosive grounds.

One leading theory pushed Friday by Democrats involves a violation of a 1799 statute known as the Logan Act. A relic of the John Adams administration, this discredited law makes it illegal for a private U.S. citizen to undermine the foreign policy of a sitting president in contact with a foreign power. No American has ever been successfully prosecuted under that law.

This path is likely a dead end: some conservatives urged the George W. Bush administration to prosecute former House speaker Nancy Pelosi under the Logan Act in 2007 when she visited the Syrian dictator, Bashar al-Assad, when the White House was trying to isolate him. Nothing ever came of that.

Still, a Logan Act investigation would explain the bureau's interest in Flynn's conversations about the U.N. Security Council resolution on Israel. This is what Senator Dianne Feinstein, the ranking Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee, said on Friday: "This shows a Trump associate negotiating with the Russians against U.S. policy and interests before Donald Trump took office and after it was announced that Russia had interfered in our election. That’s a stunning revelation and could be a violation of the Logan Act, which forbids unauthorized U.S. citizens from negotiating with a foreign power."

If that is the extent of Mueller's charges, it's nothing and Trump walks away scott free. As Lake notes, "if that's all there is, then the whispers of collusion will look foolish. Nonetheless, it may be enough to take out not only Flynn, but also the man who married the president's daughter."

Of course, if Kushner is the last casualty of all this, it is likely safe to say that not many tears will be shed.

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homiegot's picture

Kushner is expendable. Fuck em.

DescendantofthePatriots's picture

Get him out of there. He's a swamp rat.

tmosley's picture

"contacting foreign powers" is a part of his fucking job, and he would have been negligent if he had failed to do so. Contact is NOT collusion.

Synoia's picture

Collusion is not a crime. It has to get to Conspiracy to be a crime.

ne-tiger's picture

Never understand why you could not contact foreigners, did Reagan\n do much worse?

hedgeless_horseman's picture

 

Waiting for Texas Governor, Greg Abbott, and Sheldon Adelson to be indicted under the Logan Act for negotiating with Israel.

Any minute now...

...yep...

Any minute....

 

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-20/oy-vey-now-seven-flags-over-tex...

carni's picture

Every day I disappoint myself in thinking that Russiagate couldn't get any dumber

synergize's picture

Kushner is fine - stop the jew hating on this site. We're on the same side - jews MADE this country!

Earl of Chiswick's picture

"This was the context of Kushner's instruction to Flynn last December"

Scar Bro's picture

Hmmm.

Wasn't all this meant to be the other way around? I'm pretty sure it was Trump who was going to have a special prosecutor look into Hillary's emails.... and here we are a year later and the exact opposite is taking place.

I feel more than a little bit sick with this shit.

 

BennyBoy's picture

 

What other foreign gov people did Trump/Flynn/Kushner talk to?

I bet more than Russians. And I also bet its not even against the law.

Why aren't those contacts being looked into?

knukles's picture

Please keep digging.
We'll find more shite on the Dems real quick

It all happened after the election

The Dims have no sense of unintended consequences.

Occident Mortal's picture

SO....

The evidence that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia to steal the election boils down to a single meeting??

A MEETING THAT HAPPENED AFTER THE ELECTION?

Nice work boneheads.

This has got to be the dumbest bunch of politicians on the planet.

Whoa Dammit's picture

It looks like Flynn fell on his sword to protect Kushner. Then he got fired for his effort. Then he got indicted. Kinda feel sorry for the guy.

Escrava Isaura's picture

I think there’s something very disturbing about being a Hedger.

You tell me. Article:

….the U.N. Security Council resolution on Israeli settlements was a big deal. Even though the Obama administration had less than a month left in office, the president (Obama) instructed his ambassador to the United Nations to abstain from a resolution, breaking a precedent that went back to 1980 when it came to one-sided anti-Israel resolutions at the U.N. 

Then came Trump:

 One transition official at the time said Kushner called Flynn to tell him he needed to get every foreign minister or ambassador from a country on the U.N. Security Council to delay or vote against the resolution.

So are the Hedgers supporters of the Jewish people and the great nation of Israel?
Or, are the Hedgers, not all, of course, too lazy to read the article?

It can’t be both, right?

 

eclectic syncretist's picture

Well....Harvey Weinstein's a disaster, Jared Kushner's a disaster, you're pretty much a disaster, and the list goes on. Draw your own conclusions.

Escrava Isaura's picture

Kushner does what Trump tells him to do.

Try your propaganda someplace else.

 

 

NiggaPleeze's picture

 

Yeah, he doesn't get it.  All of the "kings" surrounded by all of those (((court advisers))) are puppet kings.

"This shows a Trump associate negotiating with the Russians against U.S. policy".

Selling out their host country time and again for century on end to advance tribal supremacism:  Joos will be Joos.

bobcatz's picture

(((They))) conquered everyone in politics. https://goo.gl/bFYusM

TungstenBars's picture

You guys should just call out jews when they are up to their shananigans instead of using those braces.

Bes's picture

Logan Act (1799) 

"Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

    This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects. "

MEFOBILLS's picture

Kushner does what Trump tells him to do

 

Maybe not.  Robert David Steele thinks that Kushner was run by the Trumps as part of a Mossad (war by deception) operation.  Another case is Marc Mezvinsky who was run by Chelsea Clinton.

NSA intercepts could prove if Mossad was trying to capture these families.  Steele wants to mine NSA to see if indeed a Chabad Lubavitcher was married off to Trump family as deception.  William Binney formerly of NSA also has recommended mining the data to prove Russian collusion narrative is BS.

The data is available to prove or disprove if Kushner is an agent.  Trump does seem to bend over backwards for Zion though, and he probably had to learn this early on due to real-estate dealings in New York.



 


Escrava Isaura's picture

Obviously that you should know better than the average Hedger but you opt not to.

There are mainly three reasons why Christians and Muslims hate Jews:

1) Historical, which 99% of the population has no clue and because the little that they know has been  very distorted by the Christians starting at the 4th century, when Christianity became a religion of the oppressor. This is when the friction with the Jews took off.

2) The Christians hate Jews because they hate everyone different. They hated the Indians. They hate blacks, minorities, Asians, foreigners, women, gays, atheists, and so on.

3) And, because the Jews became the best at academia and professional fields. Also, Jews facilitated financial transactions way before the Greek and Roman Empire, meaning the Jews became the bankers of the world. Now the white capitalists Christians are mad and angry because they have fallen behind, with only themselves to blame, because Christians are bigots. Christians don’t want to deal or help every part of society.

Also, Christians bought into this myth that they are good people, but they are not. The first Catholics were good people, because they learn to live under the gospels.

Today’s Christians are a fucking joke.  

  

Internet-is-Beast's picture

No, you personally are fucking joke, whether you are a man or a woman. Normally I feel sympathy when people gang up on you--even though you are always wrong--just because I tend to feel sympathy for the underdog. In your case, since it is clear that you are beyond redemption, I will henceforth join the fray. I hope you are democratic in your hatred of religion and look forward to see hate language directed toward the other two Abrahamic religions as well.

Escrava Isaura's picture

Internet-is-Beast: I tend to feel sympathy for the underdog…….

First, you should focus on the facts and not pick side.

I’ll give you another example of the hypocrisy of the conservatives, but I can give many more.

If you ask the liberals that supported Hillary, 53% of the liberals believe that the sexual allegations against her husband are credible.

If you ask the conservatives that supported Trump, 6% believe that the sexual allegations against Trump are credible.

Bill Clinton cases there were 3 women. Trump over 20 women.

So, do conservatives respect women voices?

No, they don’t.

Unless if it’s one of their daughters, I guess.

 

 

Scar Bro's picture

So Kushner pushed Flynn into contacting the Russians to save the jews (so they can fuck another nation) before Trump was sworn in. And now everyone's getting fucked.....just because Israel did not want to wait 1 month! If they'd have shut up for a fucking month, this wouldn't be happening. Now we'll find out who's idea it was to lie about it too. Kushner?

I mean, that is the one good thing Obama did. Fuck Israel. 

NiggaPleeze's picture

 

An interesting RT article on the topic:

Conscious Reviver's picture

Thanks Scar Bro, Nigga Pleeze and Yasha Levine (of all people) for the clearest view so far in the thread on this "scandal".

I have no tears to shed for Flynn. He's an Iran hater. America needs to leave Iran alone or lose the WWIII that the anti-Iranian policy on behalf of the (((tail that wags the dog)))  will lead to.

Give Jared the boot.

 

NiggaPleeze's picture

 

Another layer to the onion:  (((Kushner))) was motivated by (((NutAndYahoo))) to use his power to advance (((Israeli))) interests (not that (((Kushner))) would need much prodding to act for his beloved (((motherland)))).  So we have a foreign (((leader))) telling the President-elect how to conduct international relations.

Of court that's not "collusion".  Taking orders from (((Israel))) is ... wait for it ... "democracy".

Conscious Reviver's picture

Boom! Out of the park Nigga. Well done.

Somehow the beat down of America has advanced to the point that colluding with Israel to direct foreign policy is not a crime, but business as usual.

And all the posters who put something up before the Nigga and Scar Bro sussed it out are sleep walking in their indoctrinated state. Damn, even Yasha Levine, where ever she is, can figure it out.

Thank you Yasha.

jeff montanye's picture

and speaking of israel's beat down of america, for a concise view of the history of the war on terror from the yinon plan to the war on syria, see this or read the book associated with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot-D8exQOJI

pippi68's picture

What does this have to do with "meddling in the election" exactly? How is any of this related to "collusion" to throw the election to Trump? The UN resolution is immaterial to the investigation's purpose. Yet the parties who were actively colluding with Russia and the Ukraine (Podesta Group, Clinton Foundation) throughout the election are ignored. To me this all points to the fact that the FBI really doesn't want their money-making corruption games to get shut down. McCabe is a dirty cop. Mueller seems very corrupt as well. Weapons for drugs is clearly highly profitable.

Escrava Isaura's picture

Listen, no one, including me knows all the reasons, and what they know about Trump’s shoddy dealings and tax evasions.

But one thing we know: Trump constantly blamed the establishment and exposes its failures.

So now it’s payback time, because Trump doesn’t have a clean record himself. To the contrary.

 

FreeNewEnergy's picture

Escrava, you're either a masochist or just bored with flogging your dolphin.

Either way, you're the #1 contrary indicator on this site.

One favor: could you please recommend some stocks so I can short them?

Sanity Bear's picture

how about we don't accept your false premise and furthermore did your mom?

andrewp111's picture

The Obama Administration probably staged its reversal of policy on Israel and its snap sanctions on Russia in order to trap the Trump people into working behind the scenes to undermine Obama's policy. The Obama Spooks (Brennan, Clapper) knew that Trump's people were all under 24/7 surveilance. It was a setup designed to get a Logan Act violation. Obama's spooks are very good at what they do, and Obama himself was probably a spook once too.

jeff montanye's picture

i think you made an unintentional pun.

some (not i) would say he is one still.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=spook

Escrava Isaura's picture

I think Trump is right in talking to Russia and building the wall. Everything else Trump is wrong.

Trumps MAGA will be a total failure, and here’s why; and with a comparison.

If you look at Hitler, Hitler was a POLITICAL FASCIST, meaning, Hitler cares about jobs so he spent heavily on Germany. Hitler wasn’t looking for profits, for the economic side. Hitler even created another currency to bypass the German Mark. Hitler cared about the welfare of the German people, such as in job creation (military buildup, Volkswagen, autobahn), public healthcare, and public education. Even land had no rights. Land to be expropriate for public utilities.

Trump is the opposite. TRUMP IS AN ECONOMIC FASCIST.

Hitler did favor usury and government to benefit the state, meaning the German people.

Trump favors usury and privatization to benefit private power, meaning the wealth Americans.

That’s why I believe US economy will be in a worse shape under Trump than when Obama left.

And use you as the reference point after Trump’s first term.

And not anyone’s propaganda.

 

Scar Bro's picture

Iwas thinking that but the Logan act itself is not a serious law. Why go through the trouble? And it wasnt the violation of the Logan act but lying about it that has become the issue.

Galahad Threepwood's picture

Fuck Israel. 

 

They are not our friends

4freedom78's picture

Let’s see in next elections if are just the politician dumbs

Majestic12's picture

More "look at the shiny object, sheeple..."

While the Chabad-Lubavitch cult stages the "end times" holy war play that is leading to the NWO "solution"...

Wake up folks...its Rothschilds/Rockefeller puppet strings and these idiots think you will be distracted enough to actually engage in this mental masturbation circle jerk bullshit.

Are you?

WillyGroper's picture

yup.

they managed to imprison Brendon O'Connell in NZ.

maybe ol' matt lauer planned to intervene on his behalf.

peddling-fiction's picture

+12:17

It's theatre, but lots of folks are gonna die.

Conscious Reviver's picture

Majestic12 and peddling-fiction you are on the list too.

So now it is Scar Bro, Nigga Pleeze, Majestic12, peddling-fiction and Yasha Levine where ever she is who have eyes that see. Congratulations. I'm particularly happy about Yasha Levine. Maybe there's hope for us all after all. Maybe she's hot?

peddling-fiction's picture

Well we got to die someday, somehow.

It is about how you live, and your choices that makes the difference.

You have to be righteous to be a great person.

No fear and seek the Holy Spirit with virtue and faith.

MarsInScorpio's picture

I'm just joining the party today . . .

It escapes me why none of the lawyers for the people being persecuted (yes, persecuted) by Mueller haven't gone to court to nullify his actions since they fall completely outside of his mandate.

We all know his charter is to investigate Trump-Russian collusion affecting the outcome of the 2016 election. He has no charter whatsoever to delve into anything not connected to the election - therefore, these charges exceed his authority as a special counsel.

Mueller is nothing but a Stalinesque inquisitor. Anyone with enough sense to know what day of the week it is in their locality (had to be that specific to front-run the idiot trolls who will post about how it can be one day in one time zone and another day in another time zone . . . lunatics) knows that is exactly what we have on our hands in Mueller.

To begin with, Mueller is a criminal himself. He was the bag-man dropping off the paperwork for the Uranium One deal at the Moscow airport when he carried them in a diplomatic pouch. That's just one of a dozen I could list.

However, the real crux of the legal argument is this, and I'm using an incredible simplified illustration to present the situation in a manner anyone can understand:

A building inspector has police powers. He/she/it can arrest individuals, get search warrants, etc.

Now then, can a building inspector launch a probe into a bank laundering money? No? Why not?

Because that is beyond the legal charter of his/her/its authority. The building inspector can investigate violations of the building codes, and that's it. Having investigative police powers is not a blank check to investigate anything the building inspector feels like investigating.

Mueller is exactly like the building inspector; his authority was created by writ from the deputy attorney general to investigate collusion between the Trump campaign and agents of the Russian government. What happened before, or after, the election is outside the writ authorizing his existence.

What we have here is nothing less than a Stalinesque Totalitarian Grand Inquisitor. He is a wild man, a sub-human animal whose psychotic sociopathic mental illness is an exact replica of the mental illness that swept Europe during the Inquisition, or that swept France in the 1789 revolution, where the blood flowed down the streets like rainwater after a storm.

Both of Mueller's indictments are outside his writ of authority, in fact, it appears everything he is doing is outside of his writ of authority. As I said, he is a wild animal seeking the blood of any prey he can find.

This is probably too complex for the ordinary citizen to comprehend, and of course, the Malicious Seditious Media will run as fast as they can, as far as they can, away from it.

Unfortunately, that leaves us with nothing but the lawyers and the judges.

In so may ways, the fate of the present USA lies in their hands. If ever there was a reason to divorce our states from the federal government through secession, this is one of the most obvious.

The federal government is nothing less than a wholesale criminal syndicate. Mueller is its current hit-man. There is no justice under the law, because there is no law any longer. There are only animals seeking whom they can devour.

Who will cage these animals?