Canada Kills Plan To Buy Boeing Super Hornet Jets Amid Growing Trade Feud

Tyler Durden's picture

The growing trade feud between the US and Canada escalated overnight when Ottawa announced it was scrapping a plan to buy 18 F-18 Boeing Super Hornet fighter jets amid a deepening dispute with the U.S. aerospace company, Reuters reported. In a snub to the US, Canada's Liberal government will instead announce that intends to acquire a used fleet of older Australia F-18 jets, the same kind of plane Canada currently operates.

The unexpected decision demonstrates Ottawa’s anger at a recent decision by Boeing to launch a trade challenge against Canadian planemaker Bombardier which Beoing accuses of dumping airliners on the American market. It also puts into question the future of Boeing’s military sales in Canada, which however is a two-edged sword: Boeing says its commercial and defense operations in Canada support more than 17,000 Canadian jobs.

The trade spat comes as Canada and Mexico are locked into increasingly acrimonious negotiations with the United States over the NAFTA trade pact.

The Liberal Party of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau initially said in late 2016 it wanted the Boeing jets as a stopgap measure until it could launch a competition for a permanent fleet to replace Canada’s ageing CF-18 jets. But as relations with Boeing deteriorated, Ottawa slammed the firm for not acting as a trusted partner and began looking at the Australian jets.

Sensing an opportunity to grab market share, Australia’s Defense Department said Canada lodged a formal expression of interest for “a number” of Australia’s F/A-18 Classic Hornets on Sept. 29, in a statement emailed to Reuters.

“Defence is continuing to assist Canada in regards to their EOI,” the statement added, without disclosing a price or any other details. Two sources also said Australian military officials had been in Ottawa late last month for talks. One source said that by buying the Australian fleet, Canada would save money as well as avoid the need to train its pilots on a new aircraft or spend money on a new supply chain. Officials had previously said that if the purchase went ahead, some of the Australian aircraft would be used for spare parts.

It will be interesting if Canada escalates the trade war in the near future: the country is due to officially announce the requirements for its new fighter fleet in early 2019, kicking off an open competition. One potential contender is Lockheed Martin F-35 fighter, which Trudeau initially said he would not buy because it was too expensive. The government has since softened its line, saying the plane would be allowed to compete. In light of the feud with Boeing, however, Canada may end up opting for European alternatives instead.

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spastic_colon's picture

still somehow the desperation to get futures green today will persist and BA will still be up since it is in the top 5 dow weightings..........literally not one dow component is up pre-market yet futures are pushing higher.

E.F. Mutton's picture

They can drop flowers and welfare checks on incoming immigrants using much cheaper aircraft

Laowei Gweilo's picture

Trudea announcing this now because of how embarrased he was in China

what kind of retard tries to tie gender rights to trade in China?

and WHAT kinda of retard starts a fight over how many damn photographers he can bring into photo ops? (again, in CHI-NA)

i mean, I know he basically never even had a job until he was 37 years old, and just skipped around temporary gigs after spending 9 years earning an undergrad, but even a retard should know better than that -_-

justins love of selfies, photo ops, and symbolic gender/native/etc rights truly know no bounds

spastic_colon's picture

this is very symptomatic of the liberal insecurities and malformed social ability; which is why they should not be in positions to try and influence groups of people in a leadership role; obummer was a perfect example, the constant stomping of his feet and juvenile tantrums when he didnt get his way were an embarassment to a nation that supposedly prides itself on strength and power.

ParkAveFlasher's picture

Both of those guys taking it hard from Soros doesn't help either.

Pure Evil's picture

Canada eh..............America's Vagina Hat.

shitshitshit's picture

They could get better at this game by purchasing a few sukhois or migs...

gmrpeabody's picture

Canada has an air force..?

IH8OBAMA's picture

What does Canada need with fighter jets?  Who are they going to attack or, more importantly, who would attack them?  Canada just thinks they need the same toys the rest of the world has.  They don't.

Shropshire Lad's picture

Canada can attack whoever NATO tells them to -- including sovereign government forces like in Syria.

jaxville's picture

  ...Or bomb civilians in Serbia.   Oh wait! They already did that.

The Terrible Sweal's picture

Canada helped wreck NATO wreck the most successful ckintry in Africa and open Europe to millions of Soros recruits.

Justin Case's picture

Ya a better deal for tax payers, planes that can actually fly. Better yet get the Russian T-50. That would make the merican MIC pee pee their depends. Like when Britain told Avro to can the Arrow project and then sent all the engineers to merica. That's why they have what they have today, thanks to Germans and Canadian engineers.

Shropshire Lad's picture

Are you referring to the F-35 Turkey?

Justin Case's picture

Ya the trillion dollar hanger queen.

Antifaschistische's picture

I'm struggling with this one.

Help me out, "As the Canadian Prime Minister we need fighter jets because we may need to defend ourselves against ___________"

At the same time they are allowing themselves to be invaded by immigrants with no restraint.

SilverRhino's picture

The US just needs to grab everything from Lake Superior and all provinces west.   It's ridiculous that these idiots in Toronto are fucking up so much wilderness. 

Laowei Gweilo's picture

well, the fighter jets are for 3 strategic reasons.

1. let's Canada contribute to UN missions (e.g. bombing the same countries as everyone else gets Canada goodwill with them)

2. let's Canada better patrol the 'North', and prove sovereignty, over areas which other countries do not recognize as Canadian -- there are significant parts of Canada that Russia or US still claim as their own. if Canada can't patrol it regularly, whether with dog sleds or fighter jets, Canada loses its ability to show that its sovereign land should it ever became a legal battle.

3. just general MAD .... if shit ever  does it the fan, it wouldn't be a bad idea to at least have some rusty second hand F18s lying around lol

superyankee's picture

“Liberal Tears” has a whole new meaning after Justin Trudeau.

Trudeau’s finance minister failed to disclose millions in shares of his family’s pension business, while tabling pension legislation that increased his own share value.

This is a socialist government which protects politically connected cronies. I miss Stephen Harper

silverer's picture

Canada should buy the T50 PAK FA jets from Russia. Great airplanes, lower price.

FX223's picture

The thing is...we are broke, our gov sold off all the rest of the gold in desperation, economy here is fucked (for the real working people) and our shemale priminister has put us so deep in debt (last 2 years) that he's off to China to kneel in front of his Chinese bulls and do what he does best.

We can't come up with the deposit on the jets so no deal.

FrankDrakman's picture

C'mon, now. Justnot had enough principles to ask the Chinese to wear a condom before they fucked us over in a trade deal, and Li told him "Bareback or nothing". So, it's nothing, which is actually a better deal for Canadians. What do we need from China? Cheap toys? More poisonous baby formula? More fentanyl?

"Free trade deals" between nations of widely disparate national incomes and values silently erode the middle class in the more advanced nation. That's happened in both Canada and the USA from Nafta. I'd be so much happier if Justnot were to throw the Mexicans under the bus and advance a true free trade deal with the US.

BullyBearish's picture

Xi, "all your wood are mine"...

Justin Case's picture

Buying Merican products made in China. There are hundreds of merican corporations making cheap shit for mericans that clamour for it with their credit cards.

RedBaron616's picture

Saab Gripen, the new Model E, would be the best bang for the Canadian buck!

CRM114's picture

Single engine.

Want to patrol the Canadian Arctic with only one engine?

east of eden's picture

Modified General Electric, sold to the Swedes under contract, that has had thousands and thousands of flying hours in F-16's.

It can be changed out in 20 minutes. 

 

bluez's picture

The French are offering them a really great deal on their Dassalt Rafale twin-engine, canard delta wing, multirole fighter aircraft. It's really a generation 4+ plane and it just works. Might need special engines for the cold weather, but it's solid.

CRM114's picture

The Rafale, to be assembled in Canada (which Dassault have offered) would be the best bet in my opinion.

p.s. How cold do you think it is at 40,000 ft? (Answer: -56)

yarpos's picture

at least they would be able to read the instructions

CRM114's picture

Two engines is a critical requirement for long range fighter patrols over remote areas. Nobody uses F16s, or any other single engined aircraft, for that role. The Norwegians, who fly F16s on intercepts, always hand over shadowing to twin engined fighters from the US/UK beyond a certain range from shore for just that reason. If your last engine goes, you will likely die about 75% of the year. I know, I used to fly those missions. Lots of stuff becomes critical at that distance. Had the air conditioning fail to full cold one winter's night, and it wouldn't turn off either. Longest hour and a half of my life recovering to base. Had to scrape the ice off the inside of the canopy to see to land.

Justin Case's picture

As a bonus they can fly too, unlike the super duper F-35 that has killed moar pilots than enemies. Over a trillion tax payer's dollars spent on a plane that is only great to look at in the hanger.

taketheredpill's picture

 

 

Awesome decision. Canada should take the money saved and spend it on Russian SAMs.  Or Education / Health Care.

F U USA!!

 

Bill_Brasky_69er's picture

ORRR... Just not buy anything and let the U.S. defend it like it has for the past 100 years ... 

FrankDrakman's picture

You do realize that Canada was fighting in the first half of WWI, while America watched, and the first third of WWII, while America watched? You were like the sub who comes on in the second half, all fresh and clean, when everyone is exhausted from a brutal first half, and then proclaims "I won the game!". If not for the Canadian navy providing support and cover, and the Canadian merchant fleet carrying cargo under their protection, Britain might not have survived the period between Dunkirk and Pearl Harbour, and the world would be very different now. 

I like Americans, if not all their politicians, so this is a very personal insult: Fuck you.

Tachyon5321's picture

Canada was forced into the war when the UK declared war on Germany. Canadian foreign policy was controlled by the UK because legally Canada was a British dominion.   You fought because you were part of the British Empire.

 

 

ConfederateH's picture

Canada enslaved its young men and sent them off to fight and die in horrible deaths in two world wars for Israel.  The idiots in Canada who consider themselves morally superior to the rest of the planet didn't even get to have a say, but they are happy to primp themselves by virtue signalling about blacks enslaved by blacks, shipped to the new world on boats owned by jews, and then sold to jewish plantation owners by jews.  

You also ought to read up on war crimes and crimes against humanity that Canadians committed for the sake of the Yids.   Canadians never should have been in either war, nor should they have participated in the genocidal starvation of Germany, twice in 25 years.  Hell, invading the Yankees and allying with the South during the war of Northern Aggression would have made a lot more sense.  But then again, Canadians are unadulterated idiots.

Justin Case's picture

Speaking of woar crimes....... Nobody can beat merica, since WWII ended merica has killed moar than of all during WWII.

Bay of Pigs's picture

That can't be true. 20M Russians died in WWII alone. Numbers like that are unprecedented in human history.

ConfederateH's picture

20m MAY have died, maybe more, but the majority were holocausted by blood thirsty jews like Trotsky.  Stalin refused to sign the Geneva convention and claimed that Soviet POW's were traitors.  The Germans still treated them better that the commie yids treated German POW's.  Stalin lined up precious machine guns behind his troops and massacred any that tried to retreat.  Stalin purged all the countries he invaded (Poland, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Finland, Bessarabia) while Roosevelt and Churchill ignored and even helped cover up events like Katyn forest.

The sad saga goes on and on, but those Russians were the victims of Yids who had performed a coup in 1917 and then murdered the Tsar.

Beside, if you want to try to compare WWII war crimes that American Zio-puppets committed against Germans vs. those of Germans against Americans just compare POWS.  Germans were stripped of all Geneva convention rights when Eisenhower declared them disarmed combatants.

America has definitely been the #1 most loyal goy-cattle murderer for the yids, that is clear.   USA.  USA.  USA.

Justin Case's picture

I was going from memory, so I had to double check.

There have been 248 armed conflicts since WWII. US started 201 (81%), killing over 30 million so far. No arrests or reperations thus far.

Bay of Pigs's picture

Total WWII deaths were 50-80M.

I'm not defending any American conflict. Just disputing the number you claimed. Agreed, it's all very bad.

east of eden's picture

Tell me, what insitution, or government organization is spinning this bullshit, because who ever it is, they are your enemy.

Yog Soggoth's picture

Our biggest mistake is not removing all essence of the crown in colonial days. It can be done still. Yes, I think we should attack Canada and rename it Arctic America. Jail time for speaking French.

east of eden's picture

And I think a combined force of Canadians and other allies should attack America, clean it out, hang the traitors and fix what you do not seem to be ready, willing or even able to fix.

'Well armed militias', my arsehole. Cowards. You can't even take back your own government.

Justin Case's picture

Canada didn't have it's own constitution until 1982 when Pierre Trudeau brought home the Constitution for Canada. Quebec remains a country and the rest of Canada is a corporation, likw merica Inc

simpson seers's picture

The world would have been better off had britain not survived it's first week never mind ww1.

Try reading history Not written by the victors. Muricans can't win wars and canada has not done a lot more.

If it were not for russia you'd be speaking german now.........

LewisDodgson's picture

Canada fighting the wrong enemy in both wars. There is no honor in killing your brother.

east of eden's picture

'Brothers'. Do you mean the Germans. If so, I agree. But just ask any German what they think of Canadian soliders. They have the utmost respect for us.

aliens is here's picture

LMAO! How many soldiers did Canada sent to fight during WW 2? Not enought to defeat the Krauts and Japs.