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30 Year Prices At Highest Yield Since August 2011

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As has been noted all this week, starting with Monday's 3 Year auction which printed at the highest yield in 5 months, the $12 billion 30 Year Bond did not surprise, and at a yield of 3.381%, just inside of the When Issued 3.385%, it priced at the highest yield since August 2011, or just days after the US downgrade. The Bid To Cover was 2.70, on top of the TTM average of 2.68. Take downs were a carbon copy of February, coming at 14.7%, 29.0% and 56.3% for Directs, Indirect and, of course, Dealers. Does the yield have a ways to go? Oh yes - back in February 2011 the 30 Year priced at 4.75%, and then the slow steady decline commenced. What happens next? Will the US need another downgrade for yields to paradoxically slide? Or will the Fed truly leave the UST curve untouched by phasing out its market subsidization? Hardly: as a reminder, here is where we stand: $1 trillion in bond issuance in the next 10 months, and $100 billion in bond sales by China in December (with the latest TIC data pending). Forget stocks, and keep your eyes glued to the bond market. Things are starting to get interesting, especially for the Fed whose DV01 of $2Bn means that every basis point rise in yields means less P and more L. But the scariest implication: recall why the Fed wanted low rates - to spur mortgages and refis. It seems that Bernanke has finally given up on this. The only mandate left now is to blow the NASDAPPLE bubble to 2000 levels. At which point everyone can retire with paper profits. Until the cash profit taking begins of course. Then... it will be someone else' problem.

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Wed, 03/14/2012 - 13:16 | 2254904 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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<-----Bonds collapse first

<-----Stocks collapse first

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 13:18 | 2254921 economics1996
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Bonds first when people realize the CDS are worthless.

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 13:22 | 2254950 donsluck
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CDS may turn out to be a very profitable (and risky) bet IF the counterparties are bailed out. CDS coverage and ECB margin calls are two other reasons PMs are down. This is temporary.

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 13:40 | 2255017 TruthInSunshine
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If The Bernank can't lid 30 yr tnotes at 3.415%, he has minutes left.

That was the contract he signed with the Luciferians when applied for the job, and his signature is authenticated as valid (in puppy blood).


Molech is not happy, Dr. Ben S. Bernanke; you pledged your allegiance to the 46' Owl during a human effigy ceremony, and you shall now come to terms with your fine print in the contract with the dark forces for whom you've worked.


Let this be a lesson to all; never sell your soul, because it will be collected ultimately.

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 13:47 | 2255038 chinaguy
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Wed, 03/14/2012 - 13:52 | 2255081 clones2
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Lower bond prices mean higher rates and higher deficits which equal more money printing... and higher equity prices.

I see no reason why this won't be the case for the short to mid-term...until it doesn't...

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 13:53 | 2255082 clones2
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Pretty sure this is the first step to inflation followed by deflationary collapse...

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 14:03 | 2255121 Manthong
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"cash profit taking"

I can't remember the last time I heard that term used.

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 15:06 | 2255332 earleflorida
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a mushroom cloud collapsing - a bad moon arising  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeZm7KQJT1o

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 16:58 | 2255776 VanceEva1
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Wed, 03/14/2012 - 13:21 | 2254945 resurger
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thats a tuff choice LH

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 13:27 | 2254957 Contra_Man
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TBT-NYSE ($US) or HTD-TSX ($CAN)... humm

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 13:24 | 2254960 Conman
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Given that this ponzi market must go on forever, and the fed can do whatever they want becase theres only temporary inflation what do you think.

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 14:04 | 2255123 SheepDog-One
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'The Ponzi must go on forever' is not a given at all, bottom line what theyre doing is monetizing the debt before they collapse the country....judging by the amount of monetization already done, the time is up.

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 14:13 | 2255142 kito
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sheepie, are you changing colors on me? you know the only monetzing over the past 8 months has been in the form of promises...and even those promises have run dry..


But the scariest implication: recall why the Fed wanted low rates - to spur mortgages and refis. It seems that Bernanke has finally given up on this.

poor bill gross, bitchslapped time and time again by ben....

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 16:16 | 2255627 Practical Irrat...
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But the scariest implication: recall why the Fed wanted low rates - to spur mortgages and refis. It seems that Bernanke has finally given up on this.

I'll take the contrary view: Headlines on media sites all blowing up with scary "Rates are going to rise! Now is the time for a new mortgage." talk is just there to scare mom and pop into refi and/or buy right now. The Fed has to prop up those Spring mortgage numbers somehow and force some construction.  Bernanke can't afford to let the rates get too high or risk other problems.


Wed, 03/14/2012 - 13:29 | 2254986 battle axe
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Very good LH, I hit Green arrow as much as I could...Bonds will go boom big.

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 13:32 | 2255001 Gubbmint Cheese
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If bonds collapse, the cost of servicing the debt skyrockets - a 1% increse in rates costs $150B in additional debt servicing.. good luck with that.

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 14:50 | 2255266 TruthInSunshine
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Oh what a web they've weaved!

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 13:39 | 2255026 Silver Bug
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The bond market is one of the BIGGEST Bubbles in history. People are completly insane if they think they are all going to be paid back.



Wed, 03/14/2012 - 14:03 | 2255118 Bastiat009
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Nobody invests directly into that market. Banks do it with money that belongs to poor suckers or money that was just given to them by the Fed. No one in this market cares if they will get their money back. In the meantime, they enjoy the monthly return and buy real stuff with it.

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 14:41 | 2255247 Non Passaran
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Of course. Everyone is backed by their CB. Everything is perfect!
A perfect scenario for PMs, though. As a commenter above observed, this is "peak insanity". Enjoy it while it lasts. Next avalanche of money could take us straight to high inflation. Now is good time to buy.

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 13:18 | 2254906 SheepDog-One
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So FED still successfully monetizing the debt then.

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 13:20 | 2254928 donsluck
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Perhaps, but temporarily the rising interest is poison to the PM market. Who knows how long the "temporary" will last. This is a PM buying opportunity.

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 13:37 | 2255019 scatterbrains
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even with so many recent paper longs trapped under water and before they spike margins up their ass ?  Or do you mean wait for the climatic sell first ?


Wed, 03/14/2012 - 13:50 | 2255070 donsluck
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Unfortunatly I don't think you can time anything with that degree of accuracy. My plan is to wait until the prices turn for a couple of days then buy.

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 13:17 | 2254915 LiquidityandLunacy
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Im doing a good job of reverse monetizing my money into PMs and Sandwiches.

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 13:18 | 2254923 SheepDog-One
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Little Debbies keep well long term.

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 13:18 | 2254922 Antifederalist
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Houston, we have a problem.......

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 13:23 | 2254953 ableman28
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The frequent references to Chinese and Russian sales of US Treasury paper aren't completely clear.  Both of those countries hold a combination of short and long maturities.  If the Chinese and Russians have been selling older long term maturities they may simply be motivated to cash in on original vs. current market value of paper issued at 5%.  Current returns on 30 year paper sold prior to 2009 are, depending on the date of the original issue, phenomenal.


Wed, 03/14/2012 - 13:43 | 2255040 HurricaneSeason
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China's total U.S. treasury holdings went down $100 billion in 1 year. They used to buy $30 billion a month in mortgage backed securities and treasuries(prior to the big bang) and that pretty much was equal to our annual deficit at $360 billion. Now they're trying to sell the same junk we're selling when they need to be buying $100 billion a month. Russia has the same plan.

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 13:19 | 2254924 Bastiat009
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The Fed is doing a fantastic job. US banks are strong and the US$ is robust. Gold is crashing and the US government can borrow and spend as much money as it wants to help friends in need. The Fed is like a good doctor saving very sick friends. You can't blame a doctor for not saving people who are not his patients. The Fed saves a few bankers. That's what it's for. Great job Ben. I wish I was one of your friends.

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 13:20 | 2254932 Sutton
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Bill Gross is really long I think.

After being really short last year when 10's were near 4%.

He's on the outs with Ben after his critical missives about Ben's madness.

Tough being like everyone else.

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 13:23 | 2254954 knukles
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Do you know how to spell "whiplash", Bill?
You do?
Of course, we all knew you did.


Wed, 03/14/2012 - 13:20 | 2254933 gjp
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No problem.  The Fed (and their dealer friends) will just fund the deficit with all that AAPL stock they've been buying.

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 13:24 | 2254946 Cognitive Dissonance
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To hear former Fed governor Larry Meyer tell us (starting at 11:30 in the clip). 

"With respect to inflation, any central bank can control inflation. That's kindergarten stuff. You raise rates enough, you bring down inflation."


Then what happens to the US gvt debt service obligations Larry?

ZIRP was, and remains, the last bullet in the Fed's gun Larry. I dare you, I double dare you, to raise interest rates and stop printing.

Go ahead. I'll wait.



Wed, 03/14/2012 - 13:24 | 2254963 donsluck
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Funny. Kindergarten stuff, don't forget to hold hands crossing the street, and always share.

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 13:30 | 2254991 knukles
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Hold the boat, dude!
No second order, ancillary, direct or indirect, casual or implied let alone down right fucking no nonsense sure as the sun rises in the East and Goldman will fuck you over (They don't even leave a chicken feather up your butt and cry fowl, anymore you slobbeing muppet.) there is nothing other than the uber narrow idological syllogistic logic that "if there is inflation, it can be controlled".
Kid's shit simple.
(As in "Trust me, I'm in advertising", said Don Draper)

Jesus Cog, don't ask for so much from the all seeing wise intellectual altruistic people who in part have such a significant influence upon the very destiny of mankind.  

Find your place in the corner and sit quietly.

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 13:49 | 2255068 Cognitive Dissonance
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Sorry. My bad.

Won't happen again.......today. :>)

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 13:43 | 2255035 bobola
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"With respect to inflation, any central bank can control inflation. That's kindergarten stuff. You raise rates enough, you bring down inflation."

I love the fact that he and Summers share the same first name.

New term - we've been 'Larried'.........

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 14:19 | 2255163 roadhazard
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Or if it's a really bad screw up a, "Frasier Crane."

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 13:43 | 2255037 GeneMarchbanks
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'ZIRP was, and remains, the last bullet in the Fed's gun Larry.'

Notional GDP targetting is next, ask Romer. Then, it's over... maybe.

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 13:58 | 2255090 Cognitive Dissonance
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I agree that there are several tricks that remain up their sleeve and that they will try them all. But their ability to hide the exponential problem from "We The People" is rapidly ending. Even my most stubbornly dense clients are finally coming to that realization.

Watch the clip from the beginning. Even "Joe" and "Lies-man" are recognizing that the Fed is not the savior of the world and that something stinks at the Fed. Meyer admits that inflation of 4 or 5 % is unacceptable to the average Joe. Thus the reason they lie about inflation.

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 14:07 | 2255127 SheepDog-One
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They have NO other tricks except 'monetize the debt', thats all there is going on here at all.

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 14:20 | 2255170 Cognitive Dissonance
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Ultimately their 'trick' is to call the same trick many different names and to use several creative' methods to push the paper. That works well......until it no longer does. They manage perception, which in turn manages the faith and belief upon which the entire corrupt system rests. Remove this and the stinking edifice collapses.

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 13:25 | 2254965 CvlDobd
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Every day I am sure peak insanity has been reached and every day another comes along to prove me wrong.

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 13:25 | 2254969 JPM Hater001
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I'm going to need a urine test from the Yeilds please.

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 13:26 | 2254970 Village Smithy
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Be careful here. We've known for a while that one of the big factors holding treasury rates down was the uncertainty in Europe. That uncertainty hasn't changed in reality, only in the MSM wonderworld. If there is a mis-step in Europe yields will fall back quickly. Just sayin'.

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 13:26 | 2254974 Bastiat009
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And still not a word on the gold crash on this site which is like most media reporting only stories that fit into a narrative.

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 13:46 | 2255053 Sophist Economicus
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1.5% = crash?


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