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ABC Reports Russian Troops Have Arrived In Syria, Russia Denies

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Earlier today, Al Arabiya made waves in the energy market following reports that a Russian ship carrying special forces had arrived in the Syrian port of Tartus, previously demonstrated here to be a key strategic asset in the Mediterranean. This news was promptly denied by RIA, which said that "there were no Russian military ships off Syria coast" and that the Iman ship is a tanker which is merely conducting resource support functions. Furthermore, according to the Russian Ministry of Defense, the crew of Iman consists solely of "civilian personnel, which is being guarded." That may or may not be the case, but has not stopped ABC from blasting, minutes ago, a headline that "Russian anti-terror troops arrive in Syria" a development that a "United Nations Security Council source told ABC News was "a bomb" certain to have serious repercussions." Which begs the question: is everyone now dead set on having war in Syria, and by proxy, Iran?

From ABC:

Russia, one of President Bashar al-Assad's strongest allies despite international condemnation of the government's violent crackdown on the country's uprising, has repeatedly blocked the United Nations Security Council's attempts to halt the violence, accusing the U.S. and its allies of trying to start another war.


Now the Russian Black Sea fleet's Iman tanker has arrived in the Syrian port of Tartus on the Mediterranean Sea with an anti-terror squad from the Russian Marines aboard according to the Interfax news agency. The Assad government has insisted it is fighting a terrorist insurgency.


The Iman replaced another Russian ship "which had been sent to Syria for demonstrating (sic) the Russian presence in the turbulent region and possible evacuation of Russian citizens," the Black Sea Fleet told Interfax.

Here is where ABC's report gets a little screwy:

RIA Novosti, a news outlet with strong ties to the Kremlin, trumpeted the news in a banner headline that appeared only on its Arabic language website. The Russian embassy to the U.S. and to the U.N. had no comment, saying they have "no particular information on" the arrival of a Russian anti-terrorism squad to Syria.

Actually no, here is what RIA did say about the development, google translated: (original can be found here)

Defense Ministry denied the information circulated a number of media that the coast of Syria are ostensibly Russian warships.


"No Russian warships, performing tasks from the shores of Syria, no. In the Syrian port of Tartus 10 days of the ship auxiliary fleet tanker" Iman "which performs the tasks logistics - the replenishment of fuel and food - of the Black Sea and Northern Fleets, which provides security shipping in the Gulf of Aden anti-piracy ", - told RIA Novosti representative of management information and the Defense Ministry.


Previously, some Russian and foreign media reported that the Black Sea Fleet tanker "Iman" on board which is a group of Marines, ostensibly to perform combat missions off the coast of Syria.

ITAR-TASS denied as well.

Which is rather odd - one would imagine that when reporting on such potential warmongering scenarios fact-checking would be rather important. It appears not.

Either way, ABC continues:

Last week Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Russia had no plans to send troops to Syria.


"As for the question whether I consider it necessary to confront the United States in Syria and ensure our military presence there… in order to take part in military actions -- no. I believe this would be against Russia's national interests," Lavrov told lawmakers, according to RIA Novosti.

So... Buy crude or yes? Because it has been a whopping 48 hours since we heard anything from Israel ever since its security council proceeded to give the go ahead in a 8-6 vote to attack Iran.


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Mon, 03/19/2012 - 15:50 | 2270728 Comay Mierda
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Red Swan

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 15:51 | 2270735 navy62802
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Anti-matter swan ...

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 15:55 | 2270747 nope-1004
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The US needs oil.  Russia and China need oil and, at the same time, are dumping UST's.  Petro "reserve dollar" at risk.

The rest is all smoke and mirriors - probably labeled soon as "humanitarian".

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 15:55 | 2270762 Spanish Lizard
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last chart I saw on Chinese treasuries sales it looked like they were trying to dump all UST's within 14 months.  It was actually a story here on ZH.  Maybe they know of a time frame that we dont?

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 16:08 | 2270813 economics9698
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There is only four ways the world can go;

1.  Inflation-collapse.

2.  Deflation-collapse.

3.  Austerity-eating rats for decades.

4.  War.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 16:14 | 2270832 exi1ed0ne
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I'm going with all of the above.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 17:06 | 2270957 hedgeless_horseman
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Just four years ago I was facinated to learn that the Russian phrase for, "to distract from invasion," is, "ZUMME3R OLYMPIKZ."

Who will pay attention to Syria during the excitement and pagentry of London 2012

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 17:10 | 2270982 BLOTTO
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Queen's Jubilee, (Royals everyday in the news. Last week Harry - this week Kate.)

American Presidential elections...


LARGE $ still to be made and heavy dose of symbolism

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 17:26 | 2271004 hedgeless_horseman
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Let the Russkies have their fun playing around in the hot sand...

...come summer, America's representatives will once again be focused on  American assets.


Mon, 03/19/2012 - 19:31 | 2271306 CompassionateFascist
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That appears to be a bottle of water. As for the Empire's effort to break the Shia Crescent by overthrowing Assad - and thus cut off Hezbollah from Iran - it's not going well at all, Russian Marines or no. And failure in Syria predicts to the eventual outcome of the upcoming Isramerican attack on Iran as well: a devastating defeat, leading to the collapse of the Zionist entity in Palestine, a global run on the dollar, DollarCollapse, debt-Ponzi collapse, and Civil War in America. No Worries. These things happen from time to time.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 20:46 | 2271523 Cathartes Aura
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psshh, vodka + energy drink, all the kool kids do it.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 22:23 | 2271831 TruthInSunshine
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From The New York Times, the proud sponsor, vis-a-vis double agent posing as journalistic enabler Judith Miller, of the Iraq War catastrophe, so take it for what you will:

By and

Published: March 19, 2012

WASHINGTON — A classified war simulation held this month to assess the repercussions of an Israeli attack on Iran forecasts that the strike would lead to a wider regional war, which could draw in the United States...

US War Game Sees Perils of Israeli Strike on Iran

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 22:48 | 2271907 goldfish1
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oh, that's Presidential material alright...

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 19:34 | 2271314 azzhatter
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George has a little pup tent going in his khakis

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 21:33 | 2271681 CrashisOptimistic
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George is in good shape.  Probably weighs less than 85% of ZH comment posters and can bicycle 25 miles in less time than 90%.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 21:39 | 2271698 moondog
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...and still a piece of neo-con garbage.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 10:39 | 2273089 Altavoz-de-Verdad
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....and a fugitive war criminal.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 20:25 | 2271457 NeoRandian
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Pretty sure London 2012 will be the perfect opportunity to launch a false flag to lure UK?America into a another few wars for Israel.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 22:07 | 2271783 Bicycle Repairman
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No one mixes politics with the Olympics.  /s

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 22:11 | 2271798 palmereldritch
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Don't worry the all-seeing eye kid-friendly London 2012 Illuminati inspired Olympic surveillance mascots will be on the case.

(It appears that they may also be gay as well.)

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:25 | 2272029 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Since the Olympics are being held in London, they should make Gatso burning a competitive event.


Tue, 03/20/2012 - 01:27 | 2272299 Cathartes Aura
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someone else posted a link to an interesting promo vid of the 2012 Olympics, a few days ago here, but I don't remember who/where. . . still, the logo is pretty. . . um. . . controversial? ^^

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 16:22 | 2270867's picture
Fire and Ice


Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I've tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice,
I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
Is also great
And would suffice.

Robert Frost
Mon, 03/19/2012 - 16:28 | 2270874 Fukushima Sam
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I'm pretty sure if Frost were alive today he would either be writing greeting cards or selling derivatives.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 16:47 | 2270936's picture

Well it's hard to say, isn't it?

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 18:31 | 2270947 The Big Ching-aso
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I hope Syrians like drunks, vodka, and guys in knee-high boots jumping around dance floors.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 20:24 | 2271453 Orly
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In case you haven't noticed, the Russian Marines ain't no "Royal Guard," holmes.

Get a frikkin' grip, willya?  They'd choke you just looking at you.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 21:33 | 2271679 The Big Ching-aso
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"They'd choke you just looking at you."

And you're just talking about the women.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 20:39 | 2271501 Jendrzejczyk
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Do you have pictures of me?

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 21:35 | 2271686 The Big Ching-aso
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Not yet.   But no doubt NSA does.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 22:08 | 2271789 Jendrzejczyk
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Yeah, they showed them to my wife already. At least it was a bear I was dancing with, and not another woman.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 18:38 | 2271149 Red Heeler
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He'd be farming, which ain't a bad thing to be doing right now.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 18:39 | 2271152 Optimusprime
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A truly idiotic comment.  Quality, not quantity.  Frost very clear on this.

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 04:35 | 2272467 Clashfan
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Frost is a bit dark for greeting cards.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 17:43 | 2271044 algol_dog
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War is the most efficient means to correction, and consequentially, resumption of normality ...

Always put your money on war ~

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:10 | 2271957 longdong silver
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it shall be war.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 18:20 | 2271103 TheFourthStooge-ing
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From TFA:

one would imagine that when reporting on such potential warmongering scenarios fact-checking would be rather important. It appears not.

ABC, like the rest of the corporate owned news media (CONmedia), is not engaged in reporting. What they are doing is repeating. They're given a script to read, and they read it.


Mon, 03/19/2012 - 18:54 | 2271195 Cathartes Aura
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certainly seems to be the trend nowadays, scripted reading. . .  *nods*

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 16:36 | 2270893 vast-dom
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at least when unleaded crosses $5 at the pump Obummer can use all of this as yet another one of his innumerable bullshit excuses. oh oil....

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 16:10 | 2270818 Randall Cabot
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The jew supremacists at ABC should be thrown in jail for incitement of war for israel's benefit.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 16:37 | 2270902 bobola
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Last week you ran a thread on the new NSA building in Utah - operation 'Stellar Wind.'

Have you heard of this new exec order;

"...On March 16th, President Obama signed a new Executive Order which expands upon a prior order issued in 1950 for Disaster Preparedness, and gives the office of the President complete control over all the resources in the United States in times of war or emergency.

The National Defense Resources Preparedness order gives the Executive Branch the power to control and allocate energy, production, transportation, food, and even water resources by decree under the auspices of national defense and national security.  The order is not limited to wartime implementation, as one of the order's functions includes the command and control of resources in peacetime determinations..."

NPR's Fresh Air ran a piece a few days ago on drones in the USA whereby Obama recently signed an aviation bill requiring the Federal Aviation Administration to make plans to integrate drones into American airspace.

Time to clean the Y2K bunker and restock it..?? Anyone else hear of similar stuff..??

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 16:40 | 2270913 dick cheneys ghost
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2 hour Intel Hub podcast on the executive order....

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 17:08 | 2270984 SilverRhino
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Static defenses are an invitation to defeat.  Stay prepped, stay MOBILE.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 18:31 | 2271133 Dave Thomas
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Hey Mac,

Turn that frown upside down, field a drone of your very own!

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 19:26 | 2271295 Dugald
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News Flash........Whitehouse under constant attack by explosive carrying private drones.

President baffled by level of public dissasisfaction, calls for enquiry..

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 21:07 | 2271603 TheFourthStooge-ing
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For some strange reason, I think dropping bags of dog shit on the front steps would be more appropriate. I mean, that's just funny. Could you imagine official government mouthpieces trying to frame it as a serious terrist threat? Paper bags full of dog crap?



Tue, 03/20/2012 - 04:36 | 2272468 Clashfan
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Yes, it's all over PP.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 16:40 | 2270910 vast-dom
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yeah and don't forget that every time you use Google you are using Jew tech, amongst innumerable other examples. The racism here of late is really low-grade lame.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 16:51 | 2270945 Poofter Priest
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There is actually 'high grade' racism ?

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 17:06 | 2270975 vast-dom
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it's especially shitty racism of late by especially inane posters....high-grade would be subtler but thankfully we haven't had much of that so I guess lame is good in this context :)

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 18:44 | 2271170 Max Hunter
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I thought Jews were a religion. Oh wait.. they are so special.. it's pretty much what ever the situation calls for..

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 20:36 | 2271488 NeoRandian
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Not even a religion. How can there be atheist jews if it is a religion? Jews are just this group of business people who go from country to country, pretend to assimilate into the culture, then trick the populations there into making money for them. 

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 17:06 | 2270981 john39
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what race are we talking about?  the white Europeans living in Israel?  something odd here...    white on white racism? 

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 17:49 | 2271061 vast-dom
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Pogrom and such. Troll feeding time over.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 18:35 | 2271143 msamour
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Are we talking about the same racism that says Goyim are not human, and will serve the Jewish masters as the Jewish masters see fit? I have nothing against Jewish people, I have a friend who's a Rabbi, but you must admit there are some very sick, and twisted racist Jews out there that believe they are the chosen people of God, and everyone else are animals. have you read the Talmud regarding the place of the Goyim? I've read some passages. It is very disturbing. In my opinion the Talmud is no better than the Qumran when it comes to racism, but then it all depends who wrote which version, and for what reason.

Get over it, there are racists in every cultures, and every countries. People of Israel are not special, they shit, they piss, and they bleed like the rest of us. Time to quit the holocaust crap.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 20:17 | 2271425 Ned Zeppelin
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Similar passages in the Quran read as to the inferiority of Jews and Christians alike.  Old books have silly things to say.  We should rise above all this nonsense somehow.

But agree unlikely anytime soon.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 20:56 | 2271548 NeoRandian
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Actually, the 'religion' of the Jews is voluntary and exists only to pacify those Jews who might otherwise feel guilty about manipulating financial and legal systems to deprive others of life liberty and property. The Talmud speaks of Goyim as animals because the method of the jew is to train other persons, like animals, into behaving in ways that benefit the jew.

I don't know your Rabbi friend, but due to past experiences, I'd be skeptical of any friendly jew. I once lived with one, thought he was a good person, then realized that he would frequently take advantage of me and his other roommates in 'accidental' and seemingly non-malevolent ways. Like a cashier who *always* forgets to give you correct change, while pretending to be absent minded to avoid blame when you call him out on it.. When he made the comment that 'People who rob a house and don't get caught shouldn't be considered bad because they put a lot of effort into making it a success," I knew that he, and others like him, were just doing long cons. 


Edit: To add an example, the Jews got their own nation and named it Israel. Well, the Jews originally were the tribe of Judah that broke with the other tribes of Israel to found the nation of Judah. Thousands of years later they return to the land and name it Israel, because it probably garnered more sympathy than naming it Judah would have.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 17:51 | 2271065 gezza65
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Just a technicality but the vast majority of European Jewry is Ashkenazi which is a mixture of Turkic, Tartaric, Mongoloid, Ameroid and Gypsy ethnicities.  As such they cannot be classified as European.  This would be the equivalent of classifying a European born and raised in China as being Chinese.  Utterly absurd.


Mon, 03/19/2012 - 18:08 | 2271085 john39
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take someone's special or privileged classification away, and watch them rage...

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 19:49 | 2271352 Totentänzerlied
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The Ashkenazim are Central and Eastern European Jews. Ashkenaz means Germany, and that is where they first settled when entering the region.

You present as fact the unfounded claim that they were Turkic, Tartaric, Mongoloid, Ameroid, and Gypsy. You are obviously referring to the Kazar hypothesis, which while intriguing, has no supporting evidence.

They were middle eastern, eventually living in the mediterranean and levantine, and finally in Europe.

Further, it is not at all the equivalent of claiming that the ethnicity of a first-generation immigrant (one born of immigrant parents) is that accorded the so-called "natives". The Ashkenaz community began between 1000 and 1600 years ago. At generational intervals of 25 years, this corresponds to between 40 and 64 generations.

The real issue is that you have conflated "European" with an ethnicity, such as Turkic. There is no European ethnicity, the so-called "native" populations of each nation in Europe are comprised of anywhere from a handful to many tens of ethnicities. If you use "European" as an ethnicity, no, Jews are not European, and neither is anyone else.

The same applies to China. There is no Chinese ethnicity. There are hundreds of ethnicities among the population of China, some of which do not even wish to be considered "Chinese". This is true of America obviously, Mexico, which is home to dozens of ethnic groups, and Russia too. The list goes on and on.

Utterly absurd indeed.

You people never cease to crack me up with your inability to devise and stick to a human taxonomic system with which to classify groups of people for the purpose of identifying those to hate, scorn, and blame. Perhaps learning population genetics would be beneficial.

Using the term Zionist is a much better option, as it refers to a readily identifiable - if very heterogeneous - group.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 21:37 | 2271695 gezza65
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The "Khazar hypothesis" is that what you call it these days.  No supporting evidence?  I have read plenty.

So a group of individuals who settle in a geographical region but do not mix with the native population and retain their genetic structure throughout the centuries are exactly the same inidividuals as the native population?  You really are ignorant.

Furthermore I did not refer to European as an ethnicity.  The term "European" was used in the context of the myriad individual ethnicities that comprise the family of "European" peoples.  You exhibit an inability to comprehend simple concepts.  Perhaps English is your second language?

Where did I exhibit hate or scorn?  I leave that for likes of individuals such as yourself.

Oh, yes, the term "Zionist" the new and approved term for the world's most persecuted people, ROTFL.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 22:44 | 2271896 putaipan
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i've always suggested the use of kenennites... not sure how to spell it

properly but i'm not referring to folks from cannan...  who dat? -

the bavarian british masonic jesuit sabaatian zionist .001% mfer's!

or failing that- beelzububba's would do.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 17:53 | 2271069 Randall Cabot
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You jew supremacists can be amusing, you defend jew supremacism by calling others racist:

"I believe in our moral and intellectual superiority, in our capacity to serve as a model for the redemption of the human race. This belief of mine is based on my knowledge of the Jewish people, not some mystical faith; the glory of the divine presence is within us, in our hearts, and not outside of us."

 (Hertzberg, Arthur. The Zionist State. Jewish Publication Society, 1997, p. 94)



Mon, 03/19/2012 - 18:33 | 2271139 LasVegasDave
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Nice;  quote one guy and he speaks for all the Yids.

thats like quoting your stupid ass, then stating "all _______ are dumb, racist pig fuckers."

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 19:05 | 2271233 vast-dom
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Precisely. One Jew asshole that you quote means what exactly? It means the poster is a racist. Chum for trolls done.


There's infinite hick dumbass racist quotes every millisecond, if only they were actually quotable. 

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 20:24 | 2271449 Randall Cabot
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That "One Jew asshole" was David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister of Israel.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 20:59 | 2271567 Likstane
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Why do you keep on, after saying chumming for trolls is done?

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 20:59 | 2271569 NeoRandian
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Jews and the Jewish media frequently use Ahmedinajad's mistranslated quote 'wipe israel off the map' as justification that Iran must be             bombed to smitherines.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 19:57 | 2271374 Totentänzerlied
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Yeah they could at least try to learn their history before making illogical and factually incosistent claims. Low-grade is an understatement.

If you think I'm opposing the "racists" as such, junk away. But, you are wrong. Being illogical and factually inconsistent is a disservice to the cause of revisionist history - a worthy cause - and so you are only harming yourselves.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 21:45 | 2271715 gezza65
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Oh, yes, so low grade that I'm surprised you feel the need to refute the claims at all.  I must surmise that it is just the "good citizen" in you.  How exceptionally noble minded of you.  Bravo Sir!  Bravo!


Tue, 03/20/2012 - 08:07 | 2272632 Bringin It
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Hey Toten-numbnuts it is you who is illogical and factually incosistent.

Instead of spouting self-serving garbage, why not try educating yourself for a change?


  • Published 00:00 21.03.08
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Shattering a 'national mythology' The Jewish people was never dispersed and never exiled, declares Prof. Shlomo Sand in his startling new book. Furthermore, it is more likely that the Palestinians, and not the Jews, have descended from ancient Judaic peoples

Shattering a 'national mythology' - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News

Ashkenaz are Kahzars who converted enmass.  Meaning, they have no ancestral claim to the land.  Sorry fool.  Suck it up.

Sorry to have to call you a fool, but that's what you get when you're so pompus and wrong to boot.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 19:21 | 2271282 American34
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What do you get when you combine the Russian Red Swan, the Chinese Yellow Swan and the US Black Swan??? The Ultimate of ALL Swans! Thats right, the GERMAN SWAN which can only be defeated by the rest of the world combined!

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 19:32 | 2271310 Dugald
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Mon, 03/19/2012 - 21:02 | 2271582 chipshot
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.....finally a real anglo germanic nordic slavic enemy with tanks jets missles to test our metal...not some camel ridding sand jiggers....should be a real ripping good time...bammy and the NWO just took dictatory control of U.S. planning, distribution and manufacturing for this one. a chess move or the real deal?

<sarc off>

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 15:53 | 2270740 nope-1004
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Chicom Swan 

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 15:52 | 2270741 stickyfingers
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Dead Swan

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 15:53 | 2270753 Gully Foyle
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In Europe and America, there's a growing feeling of hysteria
Conditioned to respond to all the threats
In the rhetorical speeches of the Soviets
Mr. Krushchev said we will bury you
I don't subscribe to this point of view
It would be such an ignorant thing to do
If the Russians love their children too

How can I save my little boy from Oppenheimer's deadly toy
There is no monopoly in common sense
On either side of the political fence
We share the same biology
Regardless of ideology
Believe me when I say to you
I hope the Russians love their children too

There is no historical precedent
To put the words in the mouth of the President
There's no such thing as a winnable war
It's a lie we don't believe anymore
Mr. Reagan says we will protect you
I don't subscribe to this point of view
Believe me when I say to you
I hope the Russians love their children too

We share the same biology
Regardless of ideology
What might save us, me, and you
Is if the Russians love their children too

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 16:08 | 2270812 Shitters_Full
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Can we leave Sting the fuck out of this?  Start quoting Bono and I'll get this thing going myself.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 16:45 | 2270928 ptoemmes
Mon, 03/19/2012 - 18:29 | 2271128 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Made for TV:

"I'm afraid of the Russians.
I can't sleep at night.
So afraid of the Russians,
afraid we've got to fight."

"Spies everywhere, spies everywhere..."


Tue, 03/20/2012 - 03:03 | 2272407 monkeyboy
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Well what about Bowie's - I'm Afraid of Americans?

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 19:18 | 2271272 Cathartes Aura
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hahahhh, Sting.

who was in the POLICE, was signed by Miles Copeland the 3rd, whose parents were in the CIA & BritIntell, and who ran a record label called "I.R.S." - fast forward a few decades, Gordon the ex-skool-teacher is worth over £160million.

/conspiracy lulz

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 20:21 | 2271442 Ned Zeppelin
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Yeah well you write "Roxanne" then.  Sumner simply had the innate ability to write and sing a good pop song, a trait that has inexplicably paid handsomely since Elvis. 

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 20:59 | 2271564 Cathartes Aura
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sorry, I had the unpleasure of "meeting" his majesty a few times, and there's a reason folks who have refer to him as "Stink"

but I will add, Stewart Copeland (drummer) is a pure gentleman, and I do love his drumming. . .

(and do not get me started on Bono *wink*)

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 08:18 | 2272658 Bringin It
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Hey NZ - Here's another 'Pop hit' for you.  Made bazillions for the 'song writer'.  Who knew the ex-Mrs. Mark Rich had such ahem .. talent?  Or was this just a way to give the ex-Mrs a pat on the touche for successfully negotiating the pardon with Slick Willie?

All mass-media comes from the top down these days and is infused with purpose, subliminal or other as in this case.

Stop talking up the pretty chains the Massa's dresed you up in.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 20:03 | 2271390 vato poco
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Fuck Stingaling and the pompous horse he rode in on. If he wants to 'call attention to the world's problems', let him move to ZImbabwe or SA and take up farming. Pretty sure that headlines of "Sting and family raped & butchered by native South Africans of indeterminate race!" would do the job much better than wordy songs. ("Hey everybody look at me/I gots a big vocabulary/I care for the poor and the rainforests and shit/but I live in Mayfair and the Upper East side because do as I say not as I do, that's why.')

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 21:02 | 2271581 Cathartes Aura
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tax exile with numerous residences, including a massive estate in Wiltshire.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 15:57 | 2270770 fightthepower
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World War 3 bitches!

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 16:06 | 2270804 AL_SWEARENGEN

The cocksuckers in their brilliance will name it 'Humanitarian World Effort 3.'

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 16:10 | 2270821 Normalcy Bias
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Operation World Freedom!

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 16:31 | 2270882 francis_sawyer
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Operation Iranian Oil Freedom...

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 18:31 | 2271132 TheFourthStooge-ing
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O.I.L. - Operation Iranian Liberation


Mon, 03/19/2012 - 19:37 | 2271324 azzhatter
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Operation Save the petrodollar

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 22:45 | 2271882 akak
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Operation "WEEZ WANTS IT ALL!"

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:35 | 2272066 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Operation Made Me Laugh Blobbing Up But Hey Bear With It Eternal Naturism


Mon, 03/19/2012 - 16:15 | 2270834 czarangelus
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Third Global Kinetic Military Action


Sponsored by Goldman Sachs

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 16:29 | 2270877 Greyhat
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"Sponsored by Goldman Sachs"

Contradictio in adiecto :)

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 19:41 | 2271336 memyselfiu
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"Sponsored by Goldman Sachs via Federal Reserve window"

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 16:08 | 2270814 Sudden Debt
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Command and conquer! Yuri's revenge!

Best game ever...

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 17:36 | 2271031 Alien Harvest
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Mon, 03/19/2012 - 19:42 | 2271338 memyselfiu
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I am speechless as well...

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 18:01 | 2270827 Normalcy Bias
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But, won't it distract people from the economic recovery?

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 21:06 | 2271597 NeoRandian
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Well, it will spare the media from having to invent stories about how everything will be better soon. I wonder if there were such narratives during the great depression.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 16:42 | 2270918 johnQpublic
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i can see by your coat my friend, you're from the other side, just one thing i gotta know, can you tell me please, the one

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 16:59 | 2270960 Silver Pullet
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"who won?"

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 21:16 | 2271633 Money 4 Nothing
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The Elites.. again.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 16:46 | 2270932 ACP
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We'll see how much impact it has. The NY Fed has the rest of the building it used to rent, plus 400 traders to keep this market ramped. Not to mention the fact that they can't possibly run out of cash to ramp equities/suppress commodities because money to them is an infinitely renewable resource.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 15:58 | 2270738 redpill
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We can't "save" the Syrians, and anything we do to try is likely to make things worse.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 16:02 | 2270788 Dr. Engali
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You're operating under the assumption that we are trying to save them. We are more than likely trying to save them from the heavy burden of their gold and oil. We will provide them with some pretty green fiat. It's still green isn't it?

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 16:12 | 2270815 redpill
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I get the score, and obviously so do the oligarchs, but the only way to ever hope of getting it stopped is to do whatever you can to pull the wool off the eyes of the average American.  Saying something like "based upon our history in the region, if you stop and think about it anything we do in Syria is probably going to make things worse" gets very few objections these days, and begs the follow-up of, "why do we support politicians who continue these sorts of actions?"  That second question, however, which tries to connect an obvious truth to a logical voter response, only gets confuzzled stares as people try and fail to fit such a position into the red team vs. blue team paradigm box.  Lots of work to be done.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 16:16 | 2270839 Al Huxley
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"why do we support politicians who continue these sorts of actions?"


Because even when people vote for candidates who claim to oppose these actions, they change their tune as soon as elected.  Every 2 years it's going to be about change, and every 2 years it's just more of the same.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 16:43 | 2270923 AnAnonymous
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If only US citizens living in the US of A had guns to fight their treacherous government.

Alas, US citizens of A have forsaken stacking guns. They have all forgotten about it. They believe their government propaganda.

And now, now, US citizens living in the mecca of US citizenism, the US of A, are left helpless.

Knowing US citizens' deep committment to truth, justice and freedom, no doubt, if they had only one 9mm for one hundred of them, they would charge the government and end the politicians scheme.

One has to remember that politicians in US citizenism do not rule with the consent of the governed.

They draw their authority from themselves. Nothing else.

Draftsmen running the wilderness, trying to capture US citizens to feed the army roster.


Mon, 03/19/2012 - 16:52 | 2270949 redpill
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It's obvious why the establishment is giddy about a Romney candidacy.  They'll own both horses in the race, and we'll see this same sick refrain played out again for another X years.


Mon, 03/19/2012 - 17:08 | 2270985 AnAnonymous
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In US citizenism, the elite is no leader, they are managers.

Those wars are by popular will. People who think that the US citizen elite can push the war genie back into the bottle, are in for a shocking discovery.

There is domestic pressure in the US. The US People want wars and the opportunities that go with.

Any politician who will deny that pressure, well, better to have a trustworthy security network because time will run short on him or her.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 19:08 | 2271241 Big Corked Boots
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We want war? Wow. I miss the good old days - y'know, when US citizens just blobbed up.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 19:23 | 2271288 Cathartes Aura
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no doubt you do - things are moving pretty fast these days tho'

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 19:43 | 2271339 CompassionateFascist
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Somewhere in China, there is a dog yet uneaten by Anonymous.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 21:46 | 2271720 Cathartes Aura
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I know this will be unpopular, but I enjoy AnAn's messages. . . he's quite droll and often very subtle with his humour - but I understand how those who want to identify as "US citizens" would find the words irritating. . . he's inspired some great replies though.

while addressing "trolls" - not everyone who takes a stance against the general grain of the majority here is a troll - aren't trolls just there to hijack discussions or threads?  some of the obvious "hamy" or "robo" ones certainly do that job well. . . simply putting up a dissenting note to the majority harmonising helps to open up the posts to other ideas outside the echo chamber, prevents in-breeding y'know. . .

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:43 | 2272097 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Cathartes Aura said:

I know this will be unpopular, but I enjoy AnAn's messages. . . he's quite droll and often very subtle with his humour - but I understand how those who want to identify as "US citizens" would find the words irritating. . . he's inspired some great replies though.

I agree with you. I'm actually becoming fascinated by his theory of historical propagandized economic resource extractionary depletionism as an ideology of global domination, also known as US citizenism. There are a few points that I'm not quite clear on and I'm hoping that I can overcome, as a US of A citizen, my surroundings of US citizenism in order to facilitate a better understanding.


Tue, 03/20/2012 - 01:38 | 2272314 Cathartes Aura
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yes I had you and akak in mind when I mentioned "great replies" - riffing on posts is fun when it's actually witty, not just abusive. . .

I note AnAn has been turning around his votes, getting more ups than just auto-downs. . . but then, I'm weird that way, pattern recognition and observation stuffs. . . must be hanging with the hennies too much. . . hey, happy vernal equinox, all stations go!

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 22:52 | 2271911 akak
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Somewhere in China (potentially, anyway), there is an unshat spot of roadside just waiting for a squatting Chinese citizenism citizen.  But it is not their fault -- publicly shitting, spiting and picking their noses is simply their eternal nature.  Oh, and the blobbing-up --- never forget about chinese citizenism blobbing-up.


I am the Great Stoolman Mousy Tongue, conquerer of Tibet and murderer of tens of millions of my own citizens (making me the greatest human monster in all of world history), and I approve this message.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:46 | 2272109 TheFourthStooge-ing
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US citizenism is blobbing up from the ground like a bubbling crude. It is very much like Jed Clampettism.


Tue, 03/20/2012 - 00:15 | 2272170 akak
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And Automatonistic Running Dog Chinese Citizenism Algebraic Coconutism.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 16:32 | 2270891 Dr. Engali
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Yeah I a'm aware you know the deal RP. I had a conversation with a client this morning who kept going on about how he is worried about Obummer getting reelected and how he will go for broke. Then he talked about the republican field. Mentioned everybody but Ron Paul. When I started telling him I'm a Ron Paul supporter and why, he responded " yeah I like Ron Paul too but..... ". I have conversations all the time with republicans and democrats both. It drives me nuttier than I already am.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 16:35 | 2270895 redpill
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"And that," I said to my grandchildren who grew up in a world of chaos, "is how the world went to hell."

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 21:42 | 2271663 tickhound
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There's some good stuff/comments above...

We're given a false choice from the beginning.  By the time we cast our vote for President, the vote is irrelevant.

It has to start pre-primary, on both sides.  A complete and total rejection of establishment politics and economics.  Which has to, and most likely will, coincide with the rejection of what we dub now as 'mainstream media.'  With current talking heads demonized to the point of taboo. 

One outlet cheers an insurance company as it bashes Obamacare, the other plays to those 'evil insurance companies' - Meanwhile we watch our premiums rise, as the insurance companies BITCH about a 10% jump in a week following O-care's passage.  And I have to sit with people at work who argue about these false choices ALL FUCKING DAY.  Right now, this country deserves what it gets.

Should we make it there... 2012 is an election already over.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 21:10 | 2271614 NeoRandian
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Today in a restaurant I overhead this question, "So is Obama the president of Hawai, too?"

This was from an adult. And spoken in perfect english. Not a tourist or a high schooler. 

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 22:28 | 2271841 tickhound
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The reason many US Americans can't find the United States on a map is because they don't have access to maps, as in the Iraq and South Africa like such as. 

World Peace.

Thank you.


now what we are REALLY AFRAID to know, is how many judges and viewers at home actually LIKED her answer.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 22:55 | 2271921 Sisyphus
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I gave you a green. That's one gem of a response, Sir/Ma'am! I wonder how many people can identify the source. Brilliant.

You should have had 200 greenies by now.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:10 | 2271939 akak
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That braindead beauty queen with all her mindless babbling about "US Americans, and such as" eerily reminds me of our chinese citizenism dishwasher friend AnAnonymouse and his equally inane jabber about "US Citizenism" and the supposed eternal nature thereof.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 23:38 | 2272077 tickhound
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ya know, its an observation worth mentioning

Tue, 03/20/2012 - 03:28 | 2272422 geekgrrl
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<shakes head>

OK. This is exhibit A that we do not live in a meritocracy.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 17:15 | 2270998 Blotsky
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With the way things are going green doesnt sound to bad...

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 16:10 | 2270820 Sudden Debt
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We shouldn't....
But still...
Maybe only one nuke?

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 16:11 | 2270825 redpill
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you mean tactical kinetic nuclear activity?

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 16:29 | 2270879 resurger
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Blow Nukes in the air and EMP the entire world...

make it fair FFS!



Mon, 03/19/2012 - 17:00 | 2270961 Ms. Erable
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It could be sold to the populace on the nightly news as 'an uncontrolled fission reaction testing energy output for peaceful purposes'. That'll get the enviromentalist nutjobs solidly behind it, the pro-nuke power reactionaries agreeing to it, and no one in either camp any the wiser about exactly what the hell just happened.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 21:12 | 2271621 NeoRandian
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Why don't you just let a disgruntled, ptsd, drunk, rogue, soldier march into syria with a suitcase nuke? 

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 19:44 | 2271345 memyselfiu
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If the Syrians really had any oil, they would have already been 'saved'

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 15:51 | 2270739 Cyrano de Bivouac
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The American sheeple are being groomed for war as usual.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 16:00 | 2270777 t_kAyk
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grooming is no longer required.  when the war bell rings, the sheep go all 'pavlov's dog' and start foaming at the mouth. 

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 16:18 | 2270849 Motorhead
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Absolutely.  The grooming began years ago.  The US being at war is as common place as, well, the US being at war.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 16:24 | 2270868 redpill
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You sound like a terrorist.  We've always been at war with Eastasia.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 16:30 | 2270872 Motorhead
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Huh?  Oh, yeah, sorry, that incursion into Grenada kept popping into my mind.  The dental profession in the U.S. has never been the same since.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 16:31 | 2270883 redpill
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That's a bit better.  Take your soma, and if you see something, say something.


Mon, 03/19/2012 - 16:32 | 2270888 Motorhead
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I will as soon as I find Eastasia on the map.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 16:41 | 2270917 redpill
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lol @ the red arrows in this thread, someone at the Department of War, er "Defense" must be surfing the web today.

Mon, 03/19/2012 - 17:03 | 2270971 Dr. Acula
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Maybe they are from patriots who still love their country. USA is not perfect, but it is a shining exemplar of freedom compared to some of the cesspools that litter the world.


Mon, 03/19/2012 - 17:18 | 2270990 redpill
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 I see, so opposing bombing other countries excludes one from being a patriot?  How many brown people does one need to advocate the killing of in order to be considered patriotic?  All of them?  Just to be sure?  What's so patriotic about endless undeclared unconstitutional war that kills our soldiers and doesn't make us safer, exactly?  What is patriotic about sending our kids to die in pointless wars? 

How about patriots that want the US government to abide by its own Constitution instead of being a war mongering empire that slaughters innocents and assassinates whomever they want abroad with aerial drones without so much as asking our elected body of representatives if it's ok?

How about patriots that don't want to commit our troops to so many multiple tours of duty in pointless wars that they snap and go on killing sprees?  How about patriots that don't want to see another generation of veterans come home scarred, maimed, and broken for absolutely nothing?  Do you still beileve that bombing or invading Iran is going to make us safer?

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