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"Adolf Merkel": Presenting The Greek Gratitude For The 50% Debt Haircut
One would think that considering that their debt, or rather about 60% of it, was haircut over the past 2 days, the Greeks would be grateful to Germany who not only orchestrated this transaction over the vocal protests of her French vertically challenged counterpart, but effectively has pledged a substantial portion of German GDP to preserve not only the Greek welfare state but soon that of all the other European countries. One would be wrong.
The Mail reports:
Greeks angry at the fate of the euro are comparing the German government with the Nazis who occupied the country in the Second World War.
Newspaper cartoons have presented modern-day German officials dressed in Nazi uniform, and a street poster depicts Chancellor Angela Merkel dressed as an officer in Hitler’s regime accompanied with the words: ‘Public nuisance.’
She wears a swastika armband bearing the EU stars logo on the outside.
The backlash has been provoked by Germany’s role in driving through painful measures to stop Greece’s debt crisis from spiralling out of control
It gets worse:
Opposition parties blasted the landmark agreement, with conservatives warning it condemned the country to ‘nine more years of collapse and poverty’.
But it is the fury of ordinary Greeks which is raising eyebrows.
Greek government officials who agreed to the belt-tightening moves have been portrayed in cartoons giving the Nazi ‘Sieg Heil’ salute.
Greek finance minister Evangelos Venizelos is a regular target in the liberal daily Eleftherotypia and is often shown in cartoons making a Nazi salute.
One shows a German soldier watching over Venizelos as he barks at a Greek citizen to pay more taxes.
In another cartoon, a young Greek answers a German soldier asking why there were no names on a list of Greece’s newly formed labour reserve, saying: ‘They are empty as you exterminated the Communists, the Jews, the homosexuals, the gipsies and the crazies last time.’
And the most ominous sign is that we already are seeing animosity between ordinary people on both sides of the table, people who are part of the proverbial 99%, and who have nothing to do with the disgusting arrangements at the top whose only purpose is to enrich the already uber-rich.
And German visitors flocking to ancient tourist sites are being met with a hostile welcome from some Greeks.
If that last one isn't very concerning, re-read it enough times until it is.
And while geographical proximity between Greece and Germany may be a redeeming feature to what are already preambles to outright aggression, when will geography no longer matter: when the Greek "experiment" moves to Portugal? To Belgium? To France? Is it time to start plant more trees in the Ardennes forest?
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...institutionalized.
Once you get used to Grade D meat, it's hard to go back
Greece should be shown the door.
(BE HAPPY TO)
and told to fuck off.
(FUCK YOU)
+ 1.4 Trillion to the "tell Greece to fuck off" strategy.
And you too!
I've just finished the tome "2000 years of french finance minister history" and throughout the entirety of 3451 pages I never found the term "friendly French finance minister." I'm rereading just in case I missed it...
listen...the Greeks just want to hang around all day and night eating, drinking and partying....never working. Is this not the utopian ideal that man has yearned for since time immemorial - the garden of Eden in fact!!! We must strive to shelter these wonderful Greek creatures....just as if we found a family of unicorns frolicking in fields of pixie dust flowers?
Not at all like those filthy Germans who insist on getting their hands dirty and studying things day in and day out. How disgusting....it makes me sick.
Save the Greek fairies I say!
Träumen für die Rückkehr des Dritten Reiches. Wo sind sie Adolf Hitler
Seriously, you don't know where he is? He's doing a stint as a singer:
http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/103390/hitler-sings
? Wozu den ? Bundestag voll davon ( minus "Abweichler ") ....
BTW - "Wo ist der Adolf Schickelgruber" ....
When you ask a ressurection of the director of the show ( a real Messiah ):
Wo ist Fritz Thyssen ?!?!
I say put the Greeks and the banksters in the Coliseum for an all out gladiatorial fight to the death. I'd bet on the Greeks if I didn't think NATO airstrikes would arrive to wipe out the angry mobs. The problem I see is that the 99 percenters need their own airforce - or at least arm us all with SAMs.
How dare they insult the Holy Merkel! Shocking. I guess Angela and Sarkozy are keeping Greece in the euro zone out of the kindness of their hearts. They're such softies.
On a totally serious note did you know that HUGO BOSS designed the NAZI & SS uniforms that were worn in WW2. No wonder their uniforms were so fashionable.
http://www.nytimes.com/1997/08/15/business/hugo-boss-acknowledges-link-t...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Boss
Yeah, when you "rely on the kindness of strangers", it's best not to piss them off too much. However, it's true that when you owe the bank $10,000, they own you, but when you owe the banks $530 billion dollars, you own them....
Jede Einigung ist besser als keine Einigung“, heißt es von Analysten der Commerzbank. „Daher war die initiale Reaktion des Devisenmarktes logischerweise eine Aufwärtsbewegung von Euro-Dollar.
Die Deutschen müssen Lernen, einfach nicht mehr beim großen "Wettpissen" mitzumachen!
Jede Einigung ist besser als keine Einigung“, heißt es von Analysten der Commerzbank. „Daher war die initiale Reaktion des Devisenmarktes logischerweise eine Aufwärtsbewegung von Euro-Dollar.
translated in ENGLISH means: Each agreement is better than no agreement", it is stated by the analysts of Commerzbank. "Why was the initial reaction of the foreign exchange market logically an upward movement of dollar .
WHY THE FUCK IS EVERYBODY FUCKING JUNKING THE GERMAN COMMENT. LET ME GUESS BECAUSE ITS GERMAN YOU THINK IT IS SOMETHING ANTI-SEMETIC. yOU JEWS & ZIONISTS SHOULD FUCK OFF!
Perhaps because this is an English speaking web site and other languages are not encouraged?
Nope - ZeroHedgers r definately capable to work it out. But he defecate in the chan, and has no clue about the german language. ( Except a couple of words from the reprints of nazi posters he boght in his club ).
Sudden_Debt speaks at least 5 languages, and doesn't need to fake ....
Du kannst mi an Moors kleien ...
BECAUSE YOU'RE TELEPROMPTING SECOND HAND STATEMENT OF TPTB.
Drop the caps.
Let's frame this all country simple: if the roles were suddenly in alter-world terms reversed, Greece would take a hot steamy nutty shit on Germany instead of extending a bailout.
As it stands, the inverted Stockholm Syndrome dynamic between Germany and Greece points to Greece not merely doing anything to get out of this mess scottfree, but with as much blood money extracted from their partners as possible: the classic gold digger gambit in full effect.
I'd feel sorry for Germany if they did a better job of cutting their losses and getting the hell out of this Eurozone mess only to turn around and WIN the WAR by buying it all up with strong Marks, rather than preserving this tenuous global status quo.
Diseased Gratitude, or lack thereof, is a Bottomless Motherfucker!
Guys, get real for fuck's sake!
The reason Frau Merkel is financing the fund and begging China for money is NOT to bail out Greece. Frau Merkel and the EU don't give a shit about Greece. The fund is being put together to rescue a faltering globalist/fascist union. Nothing else. 'Bailing out' Greece is means to an end - to rescue the dream of a European superstate run by bankers and paper pushers in Brussels.
From the Greek point of view, Frau Merkel might as well be increasing spending for an occupying army. And that's exactly what it is. Greece needs go leave the EU and the Euro and declare that any debts in that shitty currency are null and void.
Bullseye! There ain't such a thing as Germany. The same fuckers on the both side of the pond ...
German Keiser is an swiss jerk ... Holly father of the Universal Scam, Josef Ackermann the 1st. He's so fuckin' german that Bernak popped him a half a trillion of forfeited FRNs to short the shit out of Europe and Germans. Mission accomplished !
Suckhozy (sp?) is a Magyar name
That's the point! Even back then, it was rather interest instead of nations, but nowadays it is only so much more clear that there is a class united among all nations, creating supra-national entities to divert power from nations and retain the general public of nations as hostage by indeptedness. Once the world population rises, there will be noone to rise against, all virtualized and redirected to impersonal, artificial entities.
German firms are making a ton of money under the current currency regime. Go it alone and their business model out is priced out of profitability. Self-interest, not generosity. Also, Germany wants to lead Europe, a thwarted ambition.
Ever looked up, who those German companies belong to. Not the German workers, profits are siphoned off by capital, and that is not German.
Germany was doing pretty well under its own currency before the euro, as I recall.
Indeed nothing short of a globalist financial anschluss, a coup de main.
I don't know, part of me think it's funny when Germans get the "Nazi card" played on them. Seriously, no German born since 1940 has any connection or any responsibility for what Hitler and the Nazis did, but they can't and never will be able to get away from people playing the "Nazi card" on them.
...especially given the Jews' relentless and skillful use of the victim card. It's an enviable talent to be able to exploit others while playing the victim.
In the words of W. C. Fields, "Never gve a sucker an even break."
Hey, if the Jackboots fit... oh wait, was this supposed to be a reply to Elvisdog's comment? I'm not so sure.
There are two ends of the Auschwitz batton ... TPTB r flexible of using them against the german population.
Statement: German Industry con American Allies won the war.
German populace fed with the crumbs, beaten on the head every time they wanted some democratic changes, beaten in the head and balls with that Auschwitz stick, and had just ONE Chancelor who helped them from ethernal bashing.
It was a nice time, pretty much all over the world. I enjoyed it very much, and noone can ever take it away.
Soylent Green bargain:
I'd like to trade the rest of my life for two weeks in the seventies ...
The Greeks have resorted to critiquing Halloween costumes now?!
Perhaps, but what did you expect? The Greeks are anarchist, untamed, a satyr culture living for the day.
Henry Kissinger and NWO set out to conquer and tame the greeks a couple of generations ago - with "cunning means" like language and loans. Hasn't worked so well.
THAT'S WHAT YOU GET - when you go nation-building around the world !!!
Leave other people and nations alone. Let people live the way they want. All people and nations have a right to be different - to not subscribe to US existentialism, i.e. simple dualistic choices of consumption: coke or pepsi, Len or Letterman, Democrats or republicans.
So yeah - "a substantial portion of German GDP to preserve not only the Greek welfare state but soon that of all the other European countries. One would be wrong..." -
INDEED ONE COULD BE WRONG - ON SEVERAL ACCOUNTS -
FIRST - BY STICKING ONE's NOSE (and guns and drones and fiat loans) wWHERE IT DOESN'T BELONG -
SECOND - BY INSISTING EVERYONE ELSE CONFORMS TO ONE'S OWN PERSONAL PERVERSIONS (in this case US Hegemony, militarism, competition & consumption)
THIRD - BY THROWING IN NORTHERN EUROPE WITH SOUTHERN EUROPE - NORTHERN EUROPE (except UK) IS IN FAR BETTER CONDITION THAN U.S. (but to a UK RAG)
QUIT INTERFERING, INTERVENING, OCCUPYING, RIGGING WITH DETB
GO HOME YANKEE - GO HOME - YANKEE GO HOME
LOOK AT YOUR OWN DIVISIONS, CHAOS & DECLINE - AND FIX THAT
GET IT - ???
Soon the EU distraction won't work anymore - US will be forced to look in the mirror.
Shhhh....Europe is the issue...all's well here in good old aMerica. No concerns about ever rising energy costs, ever weakening dollar, ever greater bailouts to the greatest among us, .01% interest on savings?, and complete lies from OMB budgetary madness.
Nope, nothing to worry bout cause corporations are making big cashola (though repatriating as little as possible while continuing to automate, "technomate", and outsource) and stocks are always a buy, buy, buy. The nation state foundations upon which all corps are built will soon not be a problem as corps will be extranational entities entirely untaxed and liable for / accountable to none.
I don't understand why Greece doesn'just t default and switch back to the Drachma. Sure it'd be painful at the beginning, but it would be better in the long-run.
Because then G-Pap won't get his promised sinecure (a la Tony Blair) with JP Morgan as an 'advisor' and retire a multi-multi-millionaire.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/1575247/Tony-Blair-to-ea...
I agree. Totally sick and disreputable. In my active career I met people of all nationalities. My impression of the Greeks was that they had a disproportionate number of thieves and liars.
A nation of ingrates.
Thats not sick - this is sick
Ode to JOY Euro Babes
www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HdFTOl8uiE
Walter Carlos was a pioneer. He did that with a tiny fraction of the tech they used to land a man on the moon. I suppose Wendy Carlos was a sort of pioneer too, yet, well, I don't wish to judge or anything, but...y'know.
Zero Hedge ought be more particular about who they have writing for them, the quality is on the decent and far off the descent. Not funny even.
with five hundred replies it's still aload of garbage and appeals to an ever increasing purile readership.
She is pretty on that dress.
That uniform is sacred and honourable, Merkel doesn't deserve to wear such a wonderful clothing. Seig Heil! Long live the Reich
When I see those cheeky 'come to bed' eyes and then the uniform as well - I *totally would*. Rowrr.
LeonardoFibonacci
Apparently your last ass kicking, didn't stick too well. And anyway is there really any good Aryan blood left in Deutsheland ? Didn't the Russians excel at sperm donation to your wives and daughters when your daddy couldn't hold the line anymore ?
What a fuckiing loser.
Didn't WB do a Merkel Dominatrix thing already?
I have these images in my head that won't go away.
I bet a BAC share that Sarkozy is currently jerking off over that cover page.
Nice!
Does anybody remember that Telly Savalas movie where he was a Greek partisan fighting the Germans, with his very sexy (female) cousin/partisan operative?? One hell of a movie.
Escape to Athena?
YES! I remember watching it on the local low-power UHF station one night as a troubled teen, I tell you, the best scene was when the lady partisan had a mission to skin dive to find some German missile thingy underwater, and she emerged out of the water glistening from head to toe--- HOT HOT HOT!
Stephanie Powers. Stirrer of longings amongst teenage boys everywhere, back in the day.
"Look! there's another U-boat with the periscope up!"
Uuuf- Silva Koscina ??? Long time ....
Biting the hand that feeds you...not recommended.
Biting the hand that feeds you ... recommended
If you are a turkey
Great perspective, everybody is reflexively killing the Greeks without really analyzing the "haircut" they got. They'll still be in an austere deflationary spiral 'til kingdom come because they gave in to the Eurozone's Offer The Peripheral Economies Can't Refuse.
Exactly, there's absolutely no reason why they shouldn't pull an Iceland.
Maastricht Treaty says...
"Don't Feed The Animals"
Feed one zombie beast (i.e. government or bank) and more come to feast.
So why haven't any of the US banks taken haircuts even after paulson said "everyone gets a haircut"
Was that hank paulson? I would avoid that kind of haircut by all means.
The exemptions were on the 4th page of his bailout proposal, which got stuck in the copier.
He's really sorry about that.
The stock market boomed during hitlers years
Yeah, because he threw out the bankers and nullified Germany's debt.
I'm thinking about doing the same in my own personal life...
As a matter of fact, he burned the bankers
But you're missing the big picture. After he fixed all germanys economic problems and brought wealth and stability and pretty prancing blonde unicorns that shit gulden marks he...... Lost!!!!
Haha sucks to be the losing side.... Bitchez>:) Jesse Owens should have been enough to show him his thesis blew chunks! Haha!!
He also didn't have the military might of America (ie. nukes).
Yes he did, USA kidnapped or bribed all the German Scientists. In fact Atomic bomb was developped by a group of German scientist. Go figure. If Hitler had his way, he would have had all the nukes and USA would be scorched earth right now!
So Fibz don't push your luck!
Yes, and during WW2 the american industrialists ( big industry ) openly supported the 3rd Reich in oh so many ways.
LeonardoFibonacci
Yeah. All those german JEWS. German JEWISH scientists, every one.
P.S. Hitler did have his way. A two-front war, a pact with his pal Stalin. Your revisionist history still smells of vomit.
Oh yeah, the vomit from the last Nazi soldier that died in the Gulag.
Are you sure your grandmother wasn't a Russian sperm recipient ? Your should check out your DNA and make certain it has no Russky or Hebrew contamination. If so, then a three micron filter could help out.
Fibz is misinformed. The Red Army had the Wermacht on the run. Ike arrived in '44 just in time to prevent Stalin from going all the way to the Atlantic wall. Look it up. Nukes irrelevant in European Theater of WWII.
Stalin at the Atlantic wall would have meant nukes in Erope.
Jesus people. Murdering bankers obviously did not solve the problem.
In all honestly I find it repulsive that you speak of it in such grand terms. Just sickening.
You forgot to type /sarc off
Are you implying there was a connection between Wall Street and the rise of Adolph Hitler? There is no way Henry Ford, the Krupps, Warburgs, Lindberg or GM would agree with you.
Don't forget Brown Brothers Harriman and Prescott Bush.
No chance. The other fag brothers Dulles neither.
FDR died to soon. At least he could fry the ass of Prescott Bush for treason.
( And all of the mofos who helped to murder a half a million of Americans for profit ).
The irony being these pieces of shit called policymakers threatening war as a result of not preserving the euro have now created a deeper divide and animosity because of their greedy efforts to keep the social class genocide going-- can't wait when they'll face judgement for their actions.
Hitler would be very envious of what has transpired in the EU.
In EU-dictatorship's daily propaganda it's called "stabeeletee and prospeeretee". And because according to the Baghdad Bob's office in Brussels euro has been so massive success the european people NEED MORE of the same with DEEPER integration. And thanks to the head of europonzi Mr Rehn Germany will soon have a few more mouths to feed as Croatia and a few other eastern european countries want to join the "union".
TPTB will not face judgement they are smarter than that they have not been in trouble for the last 200 years since the last beheading ( that will not happen again), but please everyone keep living with that thing called HOPE, every day they live like kings and we don't so I would say it's working out just fine for them, now go back to work pay your taxes breath in the chem trails and do as your told . Question can you name one thing you can do these days without getting permission first (besides sex) take your time , no hurry , so now do you realise the worst type of slave is the one that thinks he is free
ouch
The citizens of Greece never wanted to join the EU in the first place. Should not have been admitted either.
They should be glad to be in the EU! At least now their money keeps it value and politicians are now obliged to tell their people what a poor job they did. In the past they just devalued the drachme and kept playing their debt games.
"At least now their money keeps it value"
That was the only function of the Euro. It shifted speculation from currencies to sovereign debt. And the result is far more destructive.
Martin Armstrong says the euro was doomed to fail because each country could issue debt, so instead of currency risk we have debt risk. The debt of each eurozone country is a risk proxy for currency strength/weakness.
Most people have most of their money tied up in their homes and pensions ... which are not keeping their value.
Greeks. They're not even Europeans.
Admitting Greece into the EU was almost as idiotic as the (thankfully, failed) attempt to admit Turkey.
Wait, wait, wait! Bulgaria, Croatia and Serbia are on the list to enter euro. I hope this miserable experiment will end for good before that.
Serbia knows better. They would sooner join Russia.
And most of the other countries that were begging to get in to the Euro, like the Baltics, were/are in FAR better shape than the Greeks ever were. Anyone still on the "waiting list" should be thanking whatever Lord they believe in! And yet they let those unappreciative Greek bastards in anyway. You think they are rioting and lashing out now?? Just wait until a REAL depression hits them, on its way REGARDLESS of how things go down elsewhere, and we'll see just how far Greece can actually sink into chaos....
Yes, things will get worse for Greece before they get better. Getiing better is a LONG WAY OFF.
The greeks had to be in the EU because it had to have the same members as the Roman empire, it the same thin but fast forward 2000 years
The Roman empire had real leadership every now and then.
Well they WERE occupied by Turks for centuries...
The citizens of Germany never wanted to join the EU in the first place. Should not have been admitted either.
“The average government job pays almost three times the average private-sector job. The national railroad has annual revenues of 100 million euros against an annual wage bill of 400 million, plus 300 million euros in other expenses. The average state railroad employee earns 65,000 euros a year."
"The long-term picture was far bleaker. In addition to its roughly $400 billion (and growing) of outstanding government debt, the Greek number crunchers had just figured out that their government owed another $800 billion or more in pensions. Add it all up and you got about $1.2 trillion, or more than a quarter-million dollars for every working Greek."
http://www.vanityfair.com/business/features/2010/10/greeks-bearing-bonds...
Ain't austerity a bitch...
But DANG isnt it bullish due to more certainty to print fiat??
tactics and response courtesy OWS
An OWS response would look more like magic marker on a torn piece of cardboard...
..."hey fool!, thats my house your rippin up to make your funky ass sign!"
I live in greece, and most of the people are clueless of what is going on and who is to blame. The media doesnt help. I agree we should be shown the door and told to fuck off.
We are clueless here too. There is nothing anyone can say or do to change this. Angry people are going to make funny Nazi posters. Obama has his share too.
If everyone ignored nationality and focused on TBTF corporations, now we might have something. Let them get cold receptions while on vacation in Europe. Let them get run out of everywhere they try to go. Let them be the stars of Nazi posters. But no one gets it.
Unfortunately, or rather realistically, people will get it when the fiat ponzi falls apart.
+1 MsCreant
Don't worry as many people are clueless everywhere. Too busy watching the skank-ardashians and football...but soon when the Euro goes, then the dollar and the ATM's go on strike, poeple everywhere will get a free and intensive crash course on monetary theory and basics economics. Stay Tuned.... should be a whole lotta' fun!
... just to mention that about focus:
"Salvation" of Germany is the new "left" Chancellor - Peer Steinbrück .
How would you like Hank Paulson as POTUS ?
Sheeple here buys the shit, and swallows it, without comment ...
Peer Steinbrück attended Bilderberg this year ... so he is obviously their favourite to take over from Merkel.
Asked in interview, if Germany should pay for debt overloaded EU countries, his answer was: Of course Germany has to pay.
He is the typical socialist ass, who likes to spend others people money.
BlueDonkey, we have met the enemy and they is us. Pogo
Yep, the Greeks are gonna go right back to their jobs and crank out GDP, happy that their pensions are now cut 50%....
Heck, they'll probably even work harder now.
BUWAHAHAHAHAHAH
People around the world will actually become more lazy and unwilling to work as a result of this debt overhang. No one wants to be working for bankers anymore.
I agree, but by their standards and the contracts that they crafted with the assistance of their legal teams - the common man or woman owns practically nothing and will get beaten back down to where he/she belongs according to their philosophy. Of course they also control police and the military to protect their status
THEY are the problem and unless the common man and woman get rid of the shackles and beats them back, there is NEITHER HOPE NOR CHANGE.
The system and the framework they created is never to benefit anyone but THEM.
Guillotine Time!
+ 1, that was pretty funny.
This is anger displacement since the real winners of this fraudulent fiasco are the well covered and out of public sight bankers and billionaires and not ordinary Germans or even the puppet "leaders' responsible for this decision.
But anger displacement is to be expected when anger is eating away at you. If you don't vent...you suffer.
An unfortunate act of violence will come of this, and that act will be used to further distract attention from the real winners of this fraud and allow the police to get even more brutal with the people.
It almost feels like someone wants this to get violently out of control.
"It almost feels like someone wants this to get violently out of control."
Ding...ding...ding! Somebody give the man a cookie!
+ 52100 Steel!
They are uneducated and overpaid. They work in unefficient systems only being unefficient to be able to hire ppl into the public sector. They are southern european and they want our money.
They think they are working hard. Truth is they had amazing lives. No wonder they always scored high on happiness polls. FFS they dont work much, they were relatively well paid, the cost of living was fairly low too.
The good times are over, but of course... ripping peoples living standards easily in half is brutal. Some one has got to get the blame. As of now it is Merkel. If all the shit there is gets into the fan it will be Turkey and I am sure those thugs will bring their guns to the party. They are already waving their dicks all over the eastern med area.Showdown in Cyprus?... This can get messy. Very messy. Worst part, the probability of that happening is definately not zero.
what are u saying ... greek is going to invade turkey? not a chance ... not in your lifetime ... (may be mine) ... ;-)... lol... go listen to Dick Trump ... he is on cnn...
No, the Turks.
Wasn't it a wait and see as far as who is taking the haircut? Several posts yesterday alluded to the idea that it may in fact be the Greek Pension funds taking the haircut. If that is the case, why the fuck should the Greeks be grateful to the Germansl? It is entirely possible that the Greek retirees are going to be funding this haircut, not the Germans.
In fact, why are the Germans even in the negotiating room if this is the case? Seems like a sovereign issue to me.
Those aren't German visitors, they are German Developers. Perhaps the surveying equipment is drawing ire.
The Greeks cheated to join the Euro.
No good deed goes unpunished.
Is there a word for gratitude in Greek?
No but there is a word for obtuse in English, definition: you.
No matter which side you are on, this is getting scary.
Don't feel scared. Feel determined.
@ monopoly
Scary it is. Buy some gold. Maybe a gun and some ammo.
You "... just had a near-life experience." - TD
GO GREECE!
(and with this, i mean the greek population, not "their" gov, "their" fucking banks, nor "my" gov, "my" fucking banks)
(and yup, german here)
if i may you could have clarified ... german - not a nazi ... and yes, germany doesnt possess monopoly on nazism...there is plenty of nazis of all kind of nationalities ... you could see seeds even here on zh as unbelievable that may sound...
Totally right! They really are everywhere. Here's a quick list of Nazi's
1. Ghandi
2. Marcus Garvey
3. Henry Ford
4. The entire cast of "Whoville" in The Grinch That Stole Christmas.
Arschloch!
I'd tap a frauline sporting the 'stika.
Put her in a tight-waisted dirndl and she can pin on all the swastikas she wants.
Germans and other alike didn't do it for the Greeks, they did for themselves and their crony friends! Looting at its best folks! Western bond holders are being made whole! Uniform cartoon si correct! Unfortunately!
Can someone please remind me again why we let these 3rd world Greek monkey's in the EU?!
Because they hired GS to help them crook their books and make them look more attractive? The PR campaign worked!
Who told GS to plant this Trojan Horse?
walküre
Who told GS to plant this Trojan Horse?
Goldman wasn't wearing a Trojan when they gave Europe the horse....
"We"? "They"? You think this is about populations, dumbass?
Are you trying to tell me they like being in the EMU and benefited from it? Next you're gonna tell me most germans like being in the EMU, and benefited from it?
Fuck the EMU.
To have a disposable buffer against the Turks.
But I have been overly confused before these current media heating campaigns. Any greek around no defends their argument and their demand for internationally more than competitive wages and pensions with the elite traditionally robbing them. Only that noone of that public has on the democratic path tried to change anything. The advantages of the Euro with their government ordered fiscal sleeping pills must long have debased their culture and pride.
But those media campaigns only show their fear: There is political will, to take the haircut and let the public anger drive them into independence instead of being lynched by the masses. And only in the opposition, even the finance minister is pushing these buttons. What this Greek political elite does not understand, the markets watch their reaction and first defaulting on capital markets, then defaulting on Europe will bring along a loooong future of distrust and problems to access capital markets. And they cannot truly believe, they maintain anything close to their standard of living without access to global capital markets, be they direct or indirect.
Because you were 4rth world amoibas.
GS dollar swaps.
Dear Bokkenrijder
Should I assume by your prose, that you are one of those 1st world “monkey’s”, from where I’m guessing that education is a sparse privilege, since your comedic attempt which is your moronic question, shows the depth of your myopic ignorance in all its glory.
I know, how about educating yourself on matters that you have no more grasp than you do regarding your own flatulence instead of engaging in observations, which are clearly out of your reach.
While you are at it you could try and read about Greek history, the evolution of their political system throughout the numerous wars of the past two centuries, along with the way it shaped their social structure, instead of reading s*it from tabloids like the daily mail or bild.de, who present their important headlines between Kim Kardashian’s t*ts, about a Greek as*hole who decided to make a dumb poster.
That goes for the rest of the apes in this forum, who find it sensible to stereotype the entirety of the Greek societal entity throughout every socioeconomic layer, including their lower social classes who went from partial disfranchisement, to total financial a*s-raping, while forced to make due with 300 euro before taxes.
Maybe if some prejudiced oafs in here removed their c*cks from each other's pharynxes and gain some objective perspective instead of regurgitating the same myopic sh*t induced by their ape-like pack mentality, would see that the Greeks are simply getting f*cked because they have been doing what every single society in the civilized world has been doing since the inception of democracy, that is to elect administrations who have managed to gain power and ultimately proved corrupted because of the single stable variable which is the human nature.
And regarding the perpetuation of Germany’s role as an altruist saint, you should ponder what would happen when all the peripheral zombie economies eventually go bankrupt, when the “politicians” are unable to print more air that is, since German economy relies heavily on foreign exports, and there’s a finite amount of bmw. Mercs and military equipment that can be sold to German citizens, one would think.
To conclude; I fully agree that Greeks' anger is misplaced, considering that like them, the German people are also sacrificed for the over-experimentation of Europe’s political class and their banking brethren, who I imagine that they gave no f*ck about whatever consequences their actions would carry, as long as their overly exuberant bonuses kept coming through the pipeline.
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There are actual educational sources in them Internets, in case you are wondering about the anthropological genetics and the populational origins of the now uber-bastardized to oblivion Europe.
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Since you already described the greek side.... here's a short summary of the german side - and i mean the german population.
Before EMU: High savings, high wages, rich livestandard, very strong social net (actually, so strong that i'd consider it overblown)
EMU - just 5 years later: No savings, low wages, 2nd world livestandard, social net in practice cut down below legal existential miniumum (kept legal via theory only)
So basically, germany went from rich to mini-china in 5 years.
Yup, was a rapidfire bloodbath.... but since germans tend to have a conformist mentality, only massdemonstrations of hundredthousands of people happened, just short of reaching critical mass (if germany were france, the country would now be burned down, and berlin painted in blood).
And Greeks produce what product I have ever used? Bullshit? Lies?
What was the significance of Greece in the wars of the last two centuries? - Others had to rescue them from Turks and then from Nazis and then from Communists and the Greeks did ?? to help anyone else or even themselves?