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ADP Jobs At 5-Month High, Beating Expectations For 3rd Month In A Row
It was the best of times, it was the worst of times. A dramatic beat by the ADP jobs number at 201k vs expectations of 140k is the third month in a row of beating expectations for jobs and the highest add of jobs in 5 months. QE-off? Good is bad? Well there is some bad is good in here too - the manufacturing industry only added 3000 jobs. Perhaps, rather ironically, the rise in jobs is due to the election providing a stimulus - someone has to do all that fact-checking and empty-chair-lifting.
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Service jobs soar. Well, I guess someone has to process all those subprime auto loans, not to mention student loans.................
Yep. More people who used to work in manufacturing or decent-paying service jobs fall off the extended benefits cliff after 2-years and take a McJob with no benes and run-up the plastic. Bullish.
Waiting for the revisions.....
Due to sharp rise in outplacement specialists, welfare administrators and career counselors.
Hurray ! More burger flipping private sector jobs added. Economy is back to booming. Buy Buy Buy... Buy with all hands. Shop till you drop.
The downside only 3000 MFGing jobs. That would mean McDonalds, Burger King and Wendys combined hired only 3000 fry cooks. Damn.
Who is buying all them burgers?
Copper burglers.....the ones that didn't get electrocuted.
ihedgemyhedges
More like Nursing aid jobs. Nursing homes always have a high turnover with each jobs counted as "new".
That and they are expanding as younger people choose to place Mater and Pater in someone elses hands.
In some case it is justified, in others they just don't want their lifestyle interrupted by old farts puttering about.
That's an interesting point. My mom works in a nursing home (or assisted living facility, whatever they're calling it these days) - she says the turnover among the non-nursing staff is damn-near 100% annually. So if I read this currectly, that's no new net jobs created over the course of a year, but according to ADP that's 100% new jobs added over the same time period.
Ain't statistics grand?
Utterly ASTOUNDING, that these figures are JUST now arriving 60 days before we re-elect the MASTER.
Anyone find these increases smelling like Luccio Brazzi?.
I call BULLSHIT.
Are you really this fucking retarded? Say what you will about the numbers themselves, but ADP is a private company, unless Obama has moles at ADP cranking out bogus numbers, these are the numbers. They won't necessarily correlate to NFPs but they ARE ADP's numbers. Take the tin foil hat off and get a fucking clue.
Mean Reversion
Are you really this fucking retarded?
No, but you seem to be clueless.
Are YOU?................what is PRIVATE in this fascist regime, get your head out of your ass.
Companies fear this man, and they know paybacks are HELL.You think the numbers are real?.
Just 60 days prior to the election, and all of a sudden, ALL is peachy keen?.
They may have reported the numbers GIVEN to them, are they REAL?.
Good Lord man wake up.
Would you like fries with that?
Interesting. Since ABC took a steak in the web-site the data has been increasingly, massaged, shall we say. For example ZH conveniently forgot to post the advance initial claims number today which according to the BLS came in at 356,000 which is a real beat and sequentially down from last week's advance number of 374,000. Doesn't fit the current narrative I suppose. In sum all "news" anymore is just propaganda so be careful how you let the things you see shape your opinion especially when you remember things that you haven't seen but should have like today's advance initial claims number.
PLASMA TEE VEE! HERE I COME!!
Initial claims just out at 365K. QE off and futures are up?
Now, how about those plans to unwind that balance sheet?
Yea and I'm Huckleberry Fin.
The McRecovery continues.
Should be good for QE hopeium however.
PMs down on ADP; up on Draghi; looks like the cartel is trying to screw us with a limp dick.
A tad OT............ But have you seen the Billionaire obese Aussie bitch, telling working class folks that they should happily accept pay cuts, from $15.00 an hour, because African moners are making $2.00 an hour?.
AMAZING, how the uber wealthy can lose their humanity, as long as their entire lives are solid GOLD,and they will never have to ever worry about ANYTHING this side of the grave?.
God I hate Liberals mindsets.
The I have mine club,screw the little guy.
Recall that during the Krushchev and Brezhnev years the Soviet Union had 100% employment. We know this because they told us it was true.
Chief_Illiniwek
Dude, in the seventies Sixty minutes did a segment about some American welfare recepient bitching how bad it was here and he moved to the Soviet Union.
When he discovered he would be put to work for those meager government bennies, he high tailed it straight back to the loving arms of the good old USA.
I can beleive 100% forced employment.
They pretend to pay us; we pretend to work.
I used to do that, until they wanted me to do 3 other peoples work but didn't want to pretend to pay me 3 time more. Then it seemed like too much work!
on the day of the dnc idiot fest.. did anyone really think the news would reflect reality? not on zh for sure.
We all sit here and wait for the manipulated data to actually show some truth. There has got to be a psychological term for this. Insanity?
fonzannoon
"There has got to be a psychological term for this"
Drug induced lethargy. It ain't like Men are watching Oprah in the am.
I started checking espn more than I used too. I am pretty psyched for the NFL. I can slowly feel my head sinking further into the sand everyday. If that was their plan it is working. Why do I need to get called paranoid by my family all the time when I can just talk about what a wonderful comeback story Jeter is?
you think jeter is a prepper????
I think Jeter will be fine. I found it funny when Schilling busted out that he lost mil in gold coins in the bankruptcy process. The guy was smart enough to have 5 mil in gold coins and too stupid to not have a boating accident.
fonzannoon
"when I can just talk about what a wonderful comeback story Jeter is?"
Who?
I always find it odd that people can stuff their brains with essentially meaningless stats but can't read a book or rationally discuss the state of modern politics.
I consider that a man's brain originally is like a little empty attic, and you have to stock it with such furniture as you choose. A fool takes in all the lumber of every sort that he comes across, so that the knowledge which might be useful to him gets crowded out, or at best is jumbled up with a lot of other things, so that he has a difficulty in laying his hands upon it.
Sherlock Holmes
Sardonic +1
Im raising the B.S. flag
Wait for the readjusted fraudulent stats and your `unexpected` takeaway.
Bullshit is bullish however.
Cheers
i just dont even turn my trading screen on anymore. Your not gonna get anything that resembles reality until oct or nov. Not until the election can anyone even hope this "market" truly is one. until then.. they need to just make it half days. just shut it down. You cant tell me theres a money manager alive thats thinking oh i gotta go long cause things are so good. Hope your happy destroying the integrity of entire global markets Ben. Your legacy lives on..Hope you sleep well.
"Trust me, the jobs are coming"
Bill Clinton
That raise, however? Or relief for the middle and lower classes, well.....that ain't coming.
But Bill sure is!
he meant blow jobs
Ramp Jobs ! Election only weeks away.
...and they DID come (and he too)
That's what he told Monica before the stain hit the blue dress
'The jobs are coming'...yea when they start packing the FEMA forced labor camps.
http://weknowawesome.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/clinton-obama-jobs-5...
Service Jobs increased significantly due to government hiring of THOUSANDS of new IRS, TSA, etc. who now require additional SERVICE by PROSTITUTES, both MALE, FEMALE and the IN BETWEENS (aka Tweens). All of the new Service Jobs are POSITIONS in the prostitute industry.
never ceases to amaze me that bullshit news is bullish and real news is.......real news? that's why I check out zero hedge everyday
Its so political now I do not trust any numbers other than the amount of money in my wallet...subprime loans are back for cars...more people on foodstamps..deficit hit 16 trillion and not a peep out of the MSM.....but we are kicking ass on Abortion....
The most annoying part is when this thing goes, all we will hear is
"We didn't see it coming, who could of known"
PLUS, PLUS, PLUS, PLUS, PLUS....
Yep Deep79 and they'll have set it up to say 'Behold, its all YOUR fault, people of america, you put in 'hated whitey repub' and its his fault I hope youre happy with yourselves ruining our work when we had it all fixed'.
Watch and see.
Us Boomer's are already used to it all being our fault so join the club.
....and the war on the middle class is going exceptionally well...
Unemployed? Enroll as drone pilot. You'll make a killing.
NFP will come in hot (Bruce Krasting made this call after looking at SS numbers). Wall street will sell off since they will believe QE3 is off the table.
I respectfully disagree. Ben has hinted in his statements all summer that he knows the employment numbers are bogus and that he does not base QE decisions on the employment numbers.
I am sure Ben does not use the employment numbers. He only checks the thickness of Jamie Dimon's wallet when deciding QE3. But the perception of Wall Street will be it is of the table.
I don't want to be pessimistic but I just don't believe these bullshit numbers. And even if there are jobs added, they are probably part-time and/or low paying.
Anybody with two eyes and a pulse could tell you we are in a grinding depression. I mean, it's just obvious everywhere you look.
CNBC host to Faber: "Are you bullish on anything?"
Faber: "I'm bullish on the end collapse."
Never truer words spoken.
Continuing claims and "Initial claims" were both revised up but as usual the M/S whores won't report on that! Because all is well in the land of " Part Time Jobs" !
Part time and temps....
It's harvest time and back to school time so all the cafeteria workers are back on the job.
With 12.8 million unemployed, a +201k print is sad. Particularly since Krugman is yelling WOOT!
http://confoundedinterest.wordpress.com/2012/09/06/initial-jobless-claims-fall-to-january-2012-levels-adp-surprises-at-201k-but-unemployed-stands-at-12-8-million/
With 12.8 million unemployed
What happened to the other 3.5 million, and the record 46 million on welfare and SNAP cards?.
Damn that Kenyan is SLICK.
good morning america.. We hope you enjoy a +1.50 up crude fuck job on nothing but a futures algo ramp..have a wonderful day. Regards. Central planners.
It's getting close to November. Anyone expect anything different?
Look at FedEx and UPS for the traffic. The White house is putting pressure on the rating agencies and statistical organizations.
all staged election theatre.. did anyone expect anyone different? the script is so obvious.
I fully expect a 7.9% or lower unemployment rate announcement tomorrow.
Service-providing sector - +185,000 !!!!!
By golly the Gipper must be rolling in his grave!! only took 27 years for his plan to be a success!!!
Don't we all miss those feel good "gipper" speeches?
I'm still waiting to be trickled down upon.
Are you kidding? We're trickled down upon daily... With some sort of brown, maloderous material... Not what you're waiting for?
It appears (at least in the greater Boston area) that things are booming. From what I hear, buyers are chomping at the bit at any home that comes on the market for less than say $600,000 in the western suburbs (anywhere between Route 128 & 495), rents in most of eastern mass are also at record highs (the same or more than in the NYC metro area) and stores are jam packed. Maybe it is because of back to school & college but things seem busier than right before Christmas. My rent went up by $250 to just under $2,000 a month when my lease was renewed.. It doesn't matter how many jobs but what they pay. Here it really is very hard for a single person making say less than $80,000 a year and in the NYC metro region $120,000 for a single person is considered lower middle class.
It appears (at least in the greater Boston area) that things are booming. From what I hear, buyers are chomping at the bit at any home that comes on the market for less than say $600,000 in the western suburbs (anywhere between Route 128 & 495), rents in most of eastern mass are also at record highs (the same or more than in the NYC metro area) and stores are jam packed. Maybe it is because of back to school & college but things seem busier than right before Christmas. My rent went up by $250 to just under $2,000 a month when my lease was renewed.. It doesn't matter how many jobs but what they pay. Here it really is very hard for a single person making say less than $80,000 a year and in the NYC metro region $120,000 for a single person is considered lower middle class.
I've analyzed more than 30 years of profit and jobs numbers. There are no periods of hiring rising while the rate of profit growth is declining...
Regression to the mean will be resuming shortly.
I think it's all attributable to hiring by the police state.
They'll need a lot of extra fascists to fire those 750 million hollow point bullets the DHS bought.
Obama finally did it. Just in the nick of time before the election. Imagine that.
http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/080212-620795-skip-pink-slips-defense-contractors-told.htm?ven=outbraincp,OutBrainCP
This is the most CORRUPT SOB to ever inhabit these shores.
Breaking the Law yet, AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is reason enough for the employees to NOT VOTE FOR HIM.
It's useless. The numbers are bogus. The fix is in. Throw in the towel.
True story. College age son got a "job" this summer at a national clothing store chain. Hired in June. Ten hours of "training". On the schedule exactly 3 X from June - August. "On-call" 5 x -- but no work hours ensued. They "over-hired". Suspect many of these "jobs" are of similar nature. Low wage, no hours, total scam.
Watching the DNC convention last evening was an ephipany. Screw conservative principles. Screw children and grandchildren. Who cares about the next generation? Line up with every other interest group and get some NOW. Tax every dime of the 1%. Don't stop there. Tax every dime of everyone that has private sector income. QE economic entitlements to infinity. Won't be here when the bills come due anyway. Free ivy-league college educations for all! Free healthcare! Free housing! Free contraception! Abortions for the underclass! More subsidies! Get one of the "Obama Recovery" jobs that won't require you work any hours. Don't pay taxes -- get foodstamps.
It's beginning to look like the rational choice for those who couldn't care less about the "future". NOW is the time.