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Fri, 10/14/2011 - 10:38 | 1773507 GeneMarchbanks
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Bonjourno Italy!

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 10:40 | 1773517 imaginalis
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Are they searching for evidence?

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 10:54 | 1773592 Comay Mierda
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people are rising up all over the world. time to start a war to divert attention. keep your eyes on Israel and Iran over the next two weeks

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 11:00 | 1773627 Max Hunter
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Well.. Obviously riots are priced in... It's going to take gun fire to make a difference.. I guess..

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 11:10 | 1773693 Mike2756
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I think they want him, lol. Mussolini'd anyone?

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 10:40 | 1773522 Storch
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Stimulus package for pick pockets

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 10:44 | 1773549 Oh regional Indian
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Gene, perhaps for today your handle can read:

GeneMarchOntheBanks.

ORI

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 10:47 | 1773555 GeneMarchbanks
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A sensible suggestion. If only the GREEN market understood the deeper meaning of Italian youth throwing rubbish on the garbage.

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 10:39 | 1773512 Lone Mad Minute...
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Quick, this is a buying opportunity. A short pull back and bam! Go long!

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 10:53 | 1773591 GeneMarchbanks
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I see what you did there. Clever.

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 10:41 | 1773529 alien-IQ
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I love this.

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 10:43 | 1773538 Lord Welligton
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Beats #occupy

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 10:45 | 1773551 Cash_is_Trash
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occupy will come to this

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 10:49 | 1773572 goldfreak
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the italianas hava tha biggere balls no?

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 12:56 | 1774271 prole
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Si.

Did you see the numbers in that one shot of the march? Impressive they were.

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 10:52 | 1773584 Lord Welligton
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I have my doubts.

I am certainly not one of the 1%.

But I am absolutely certain I am not one of the 99% "Collective".

It seems to mean that someone is behind #occupy.

Who gave them the right to co-opt the 99%?

Why has it taken so long to come up with any ideas on the way forward?

Will a manifesto be presented as a fait accompli?

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 10:57 | 1773610 GeneMarchbanks
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You mean a corporate financed movement against corporations is suspect? You, sir, are paranoid. Get meds.

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 10:58 | 1773613 Lord Welligton
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Silly me.

I'll get straight onto it.

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 11:04 | 1773648 disabledvet
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Not if there are spelling errors.

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 11:11 | 1773696 Lord Welligton
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Spelling errors?

I'm shocked ...... shocked I tell you.

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 11:15 | 1773720 JOYFUL
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Bravo! Spoken as a true Aristocrat....let us dismiss both this rabble, and the commerciantes whom they seek to despose!  We are the forgotten element, the disinterested party who may uniquely rise above the petty squabbles of the factions and their hired men!

"I mistrust the judgement of every man in a case in which his own wishes are concerned." Arthur Wellesley, Lord Wellington.

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 11:23 | 1773788 Lord Welligton
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Wellington was right.

Still, if you are happy to be co-opted into the 99% carry on.

I have a suspicion you will be disappointed.

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 11:32 | 1773835 deeznutz
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Unless you live off of capital and not income from a 9-5 job, you are indeed part of the 99%. The bankers are fucking you too.

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 11:44 | 1773910 Lord Welligton
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I think you will find that pensioners, who are not dependent on the State, live off capital.

You might also find that many in 9-5 jobs are saving (capital) for their retirement.

I'm no defender of Wall Street but I don't think #occupy will achieve much.

And if it does it will be someone else's agenda.

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 11:36 | 1773861 flattrader
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Disappointed more so than now?  I'm shocked!!!

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 11:46 | 1773923 Lord Welligton
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Where are the policy proscriptions?

Is it too difficult for #occupy to say "Glass-Steagall "?

And if not that then what?

 

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 12:06 | 1774039 flattrader
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Many have said just that along with End the Fed, Prosecute Financial Terrorits, etc...

It's clear you are only paying selective attention to what the MSM puts in front of you.

Typical.

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 13:11 | 1774341 Lord Welligton
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It's clear you are only paying selective attention to what the MSM puts in front of you.

Incorrect.

 

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 12:37 | 1774195 augie
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@ wellington

Please read this without your mind personalizing anything that is stated.

Please regard All the labels your mind will attribute to what is stated (liberal/conservative, capitalist/socialist, business/anti-business) as LABELS that only serve TBTB to exploit our divisions and maintain power.

Please consider 10% of the world controls 82% of the wealth within the world and try to see that FACT through the eyes of someone who never went to college.

See how they can easily be manipulated to spout off marxist nonsense alienating further support of a true nation wide movement towards ethical behavior in government/buisiness/society?

Here's some answers which given what i have said may or may not be of use to you. 

Who gave them the right to co-opt the 99%? 

No one did the title just stuck around day 5

Why has it taken so long to come up with any ideas on the way forward?

Demands are suggested through a general assembly of all who care to participate. Direct Democracy is very time consuming and those gracious enough to stay there full time make every effort to keep the discussion positive which makes things even more time consuming as there are many points of process to keep things civil. 

Will a manifesto be presented as a fait accompli?

http://occupywallst.org/ This is their UN-CO-OPTED website.

http://occupywallst.org/article/September_Revolution/ and this is their agenda. 

 

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 13:43 | 1774480 Lord Welligton
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Who gave them the right to co-opt the 99%? 

No one did the title just stuck around day 5

Incorrect.

http://occupywallst.org/article/99Percent/

From 29th August.

Why has it taken so long to come up with any ideas on the way forward?

Demands are suggested through a general assembly of all who care to participate. Direct Democracy is very time consuming and those gracious enough to stay there full time make every effort to keep the discussion positive which makes things even more time consuming as there are many points of process to keep things civil. 

"Demands are suggested through a general assembly"

No thanks. I have no desire to be part of a pre-determined collective.

"Direct Democracy is very time consuming"

Are there no educational facilities?

But of course you don't need them. You have the internet.

How long will it take before you arrive at policy proscriptions?

How long will it take before you decide what you want?

Is there any intention to declare what you want?

I find it difficult to believe that something that started on 14th of June, four months ago, is still without a coherent message.

 

 

 

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 14:17 | 1774602 augie
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I said please. You are clearly basing your assumptions on previously constructed archtypes. 

Keep asking questions though, I'm sure they'll get you real far. 

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 14:19 | 1774610 Lord Welligton
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Psychobabble.

No thanks.

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 20:22 | 1775834 damage
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I was under the impression the archetypes were pretty much static. Anything new is just the same archetype manifested in a different way or a different combination of archetypes.

But I'm not sure either.... does the collective unconscious assimilate new archetypes? I think it is just the same old archetypes being expressed.

Sun, 10/16/2011 - 11:54 | 1778801 augie
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The static nature of the archtype is the problem keeping us from seeing things as they truely are. Collective unconcious isn't an archtype it trancends archtypes. you get in touch with the collective unconcious when you lose all archtypes or labels or representative symbolism and just see what is.

 

hows that for psycho babel. 

Hah, it is so difficult to be hopeful. 

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 10:43 | 1773540 MrBoompi
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It truly will be a turning point in the US if there is vandalism or widespread violence.  The authorities are not going to stand for much more.  We could easily have another Kent State on our hands.  Then what?

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 10:57 | 1773608 Waffen
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Indeed the European police have a lot more patience for this.

American cops are trained to shoot first.

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 11:06 | 1773666 disabledvet
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Already have. They're called accidents.

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 11:10 | 1773669 oldman
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Mr Boo! mpi

We have been eating shit for so long in this country that another Kent State is inevitable. In Europe, the people I have talked to on the street are glad that we are at last getting in the street, but what passes for a big protest movement there, is everyday occurrence here. We are still the laughingstock for the rest of the world who believed our mythological independence.

If we have another Kent State---we are going to take some of those fuckers with when we go. This is not a game and if you want to live under the heels of the police or any other of the dogs of war---please stay out of the way

Old people remember              om

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 11:12 | 1773704 Mike2756
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Mmmm, more people have assault rifles now, likely to shoot back.

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 10:44 | 1773545 orangedrinkandchips
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"if you feel like a riot then don't you deny it....put your best foot forward" Black Crowes

 

Great song...kick his ass sea bass!!

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 10:46 | 1773553 bullonparade
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Shouldnt they hang on to their fruits and vegetables? Who knows they might be trading them as currency soon.

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 10:47 | 1773556 monopoly
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And maybe, just maybe it is beginning. We need 2 million to march on Washington. Otherwise, nothing changes.

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 10:52 | 1773587 LoneStarHog
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There needs to be a day where people march by hundreds of thousands to their respective State Capitol and - those who are close or can travel - march by several million on WaShitOn the same day. The numbers could be deafening and literally be in the tens of millions.

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 11:09 | 1773686 disabledvet
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What we need are Governors who say they're sick and tired of it. Their sons and daughters have been on the front line more than any other.

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 12:41 | 1774215 GottaBKiddn
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And then what? They marched, they demanded, and then what? You demand your rights, and if you don't get them, then what?

The only way to truly change a population, without bloodshed, is to inform them.

If marching in the street is the best you can do, at least wear a helmet.

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 10:58 | 1773611 Waffen
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worthless.. march on the fed.

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 10:47 | 1773559 Belarus
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the 99% really need to have a more concentrated effort for christs sake. There's no need to take to the streets: the poor should take credit out to buy food, the middle class should stockpile food and PM's, and everyone should take every dime they have out of too big to fails: which takes down the powers that be.

The resultant effect would be so much more powerful and the route from A - B would be SO MUCH EASIER. I have faith in people. It took them 30 + years to finally get to this point. They'll now catch on to my vision of taking money out of the system far faster as it begins to unravel. 

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 11:15 | 1773718 oldman
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Bel

When all we do is talk---this what we get----we could have organized a party, but we didn't. This thing has its own legs and doesn't know where it is going, but I'm going with it.

It is all that is left---no more talking                  om

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 12:30 | 1774145 flattrader
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Hey oldman,

 

Find a #OWS event and go.  COPS beating old people does not make good B roll.

I will be marching with Granarchy!!!, though I am a bit young for that.

Fri, 10/14/2011 - 15:37 | 1774927 oldman
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Flat,

You are right, and we are having a Granarchy----Elders chomping at the bit----trying to stop this shit

I'm off to this from here:                        http://moananui2011.org/

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The US wants to own everything without what it calls 'occupation'   time for an oldman to step up

om

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