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Aircraft Carrier CVN-77 Parks Next Door To Syria Just As US Urges Americans To Leave Country "Immediately"
Yesterday we reported that the Arab League (with European and US support) are preparing to institute a no fly zone over Syria. Today, we get an escalation which confirms we may be on the edge. Just out from CBS: "The U.S. Embassy in Damascus urged its citizens in Syria to depart "immediately," and Turkey's foreign ministry urged Turkish pilgrims to opt for flights to return home from Saudi Arabia to avoid traveling through Syria." But probably the most damning evidence that the "western world" is about to do the unthinkable and invade Syria, and in the process force Iran to retaliate, is the weekly naval update from Stratfor, which always has some very interesting if always controversial view on geopolitics, where we find that for the first time in many months, CVN 77 George H.W. Bush has left its traditional theater of operations just off the Straits of Hormuz, a critical choke point, where it traditionally accompanies the Stennis, and has parked... right next to Syria.
From Stratfor:
And from CBS:
"The U.S. Embassy continues to urge U.S. citizens in Syria to depart immediately while commercial transportation is available," said a statement issued to the American community in Syria Wednesday and posted on the Embassy's website. "The number of airlines serving Syria has decreased significantly since the summer, while many of those airlines remaining have reduced their number of flights."
The warning followed an announcement in Washington this week that Ambassador Robert Ford would not return to Syria this month as planned, indicating concerns over his safety.
The Obama administration quietly pulled Ford out of Syria last month, citing credible personal threats against him.
The Turkish foreign ministry on Wednesday urged Turkish pilgrims to opt for flights to return home from Saudi Arabia and avoid traveling through Syria for security reasons.
The warning came two days after Syrian soldiers opened fire on at least two buses carrying Turkish citizens, witnesses and officials said, apparent retaliation for Turkey's criticism of Assad. The Turks were returning from Saudi Arabia after performing the annual Muslim pilgrimage to Mecca in Saudi Arabia.
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Its not the heat, its the stupidity. Beam me up, Scotty.
As a former member of the military...this just makes me sick to my stomach....
So you're not going to break out your ear necklace and wear it again in celebration? You probably burned shitters anyways, you fucking limp wrist pogey.
Hey, LFMayor, I know you...
...I can't remember your name, but you played that young guy (Tom Cruise's character whilst young and hopelessly brainwashed/naive) in Born on The Fourth of July, Bitchez.
378,000 bpd of which they export 130,000
Russia is repointing its missles as we speak.
sharpening them?
The "repointing" takes but a few minutes...
We may now expect many "tourists" to catch a Sunburn.
CVN: glug - glug - glug.
I wouldn't worry about where Russia's missiles are pointed . I'm almost certain they don't work nor anyone elses for that matter. The U.S has already developed the technology to render them inoperable or at the very least inaccurate. Pleeaase!
Oh spacecadet, do praytell what technology we have to shoot down the Moskit/Sunburn. Ram guns? A subsonic missle to target a mach 2-3 missile? Pleeeeeeease. Clueless.
phyuckyiu, Every weapons system has a computer lurking somewhere behind it. Take my word for it, it's easier to knock an incoming ICBM off course with a few key strokes than to catch a 30 ought 6 between your teeth.
I would imagine computer sabotage is an equal opportunity employer. Meaning we are as vulnerable as anyone else. Witness a water pump shutting down in Illinois this week, and they had to backtrack that it was outside forces (can't let the sheeple know how vulnerable they really are). As far as I know the Moskit/Sunburn are fire and forget, but I suppose we'll find out soon.
Put a Russky GPS Rocket-Homing widget in Barky's underwear, quick! He won't be changing it since Reggie quit.
If only people understood the real meaning of this comment :)
Let's see how the Russians respond. You wonder whether the Chinese and Russians are just 'playing the game' for short term stability or if they really get that they are the long-term targets! When do they say enough or do they just wait for the inevitable US invasion of Pakistan to say 'enough.' We do live in interesting times, kind of like a mixture of 1914 and 1939.
It's a good time for a distraction!
One could also make the argument that once Iran see that the US, allies and the Arab Leauge isn't bluffing and takes Syria out they may be more inclined to co-operate. One could also make the argument that this is a false flag event to draw Iran into the war therefore enabling the US and arab coalition (plus Isreal) to retaliate without directly confronting China and Russia.
Isreali's got within 40 kms of Damascus in '73 and the only reason they halted was that Russia said they would enter the war - both the Israli's and the US believed then Russia would. Expect the Russians at the very least arm Assad.
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2011/11/syria-and-other-wars-without-end/248944/
Saddam cooperated by letting inspectors into all parts of Iraq and destroying arms on live TV. That just got him killed. Gaddafi cooperated by ending Libya's nuclear program. That just got him killed.
You think any carnage in Syria is going to make Iran roll over? It will make them spend every last dollar on weapons.
Russia and the Iranians love this shit. So you suffer through some airstrikes and the price of your main export skyrockets lining your and your nations coffers. Sounds like a plan.
When gas goes to 10$ a gallon, that's when the real American class warfare starts. If half the population is idled, the bullets begin.
Obama sure is working hard to win another peace prize. They are made of .999 Gold are they not?
Gold plated baubles for a tin pot dictator.
Green gold? Do they actually fall for that?
Yep. And they serve blue oranges for brunch as well.
Totally worth quietly starting a war, and then publicly ending it for some internationally awarded bling.
They should make it out of zinc to better represent our fiat system
Metals are too valuable these days.
How about glass?
At best he deserves gold-plated tungsten.
They hate us for our freedom...to bomb the living shit out of any and every country we damn well please, whenever we damn well please to do so.
God Bless Amerikkka!
A thousand points of light....
"They hate us for our freedom" - I've always liked that particular line. As if a shepherd in northern Afghanistan would give a goat shit about the freedom of people in north America.
You've not witnessed the media footage of angry throngs of goat farmers burning copies of the Magna Carta & Bill of Rights?
and Time Magazine - but good on 'em for that.
But that footage was shot in DC, and those goat farmers (look more like goat fuckers to me) were members of the US Congress, the Supreme Court, and the Executive branches of the US gubbermint.
ssssh. that's their line to get middle/lower class and overzealous boys and girls to sign up for the machine.
It's kind of like LARPing, I guess. Only they're not fighting dragons and sorcerers: they're fighting terrorists and freedom haters.
"As if a shepherd in northern Afghanistan would give a goat shit about the freedom of people in north America."
About like cattle rancher's in North America could give a shit about a goat shepherd in N. Afghnistan.
A light shall come from the east..."
Let's hope it does not come from a nuclear explosion...
Check out my girl in Damascus, Mirna Nazzour.
Bullish for the euro/usd
Particularly if it's coordinated with a Merkel capitulation ("push print now" IM to her pen-pal Sarkozy)...
Would be mega-bullish for the oil/gold ratio.
like the iraq war, which was instigated by zionists largely (project for the new american century), these obama wars to knock off islamic authoritarians will result in further opposition to israel as, over time, the governments of egypt, libya, syria, and associated fallout become more representative of the violent hatred of israel that the peoples of these nations feel.
Possibly, but there is evidence both AQ and the Muslim Brotherhood are employees of the CIA/MI-6. MI-6 inherited them (MB) after WW2. During the war, they worked for Hitler behind British lines in Egypt. The Brits used them to counter the rowdy Zionists before 1948. Of course, the CIA uses AQ anywhere a gun-hand is needed, from the halls of afghanistan to the shores of tripoli.
Imperial strategy would be to use them to destabilize, divide and conquer these potentates in order to grab their banking assets: so much vig is being thrown away! Remember, good ole' Mo gave up his nukes, but not his plan to issue gold-backed oil dinars. For the good of Goldman and the City, he had to go... Maybe if he's quick about it, Bashar can make the hidden landing strip before Barky fires a Hellfire up his ass. Word is, Barky likes playing Predator.
I'm embarrassed to be linked with these warmongers in any way. I will not deny my country but rather assert that the war criminals holding office are not Americans. They are traitors plain and simple.
May we also know what you call the leader of Syria who has killed so many of his own countrymen recently? Do we like him, or do we despise him more than President Obama (I really need some guidance; I'm not capable of deciding on my own)?
Can we let that be the new standard please: how many of your own citizens you kill? But who gets the 'fail' prize and our criticism - the one who kills the most, or the one who kills the fewest?
I don't concern myself with Syria. It's none of my business.
Hi Richard, maybe if you concerned yourself more with making America a country worth having children in, rather than ensuring that our school year is cut to 10 days a year since we are broke, people might listen to you.
Gotta love the junks on 'making America a country worth having children in'. LULZ.
America is not broke. We have simply evolved different criteria for what things are worth spending money on. An educated child is never going to be as effective a weapon as a new fighter jet. Guess what gets funded. And doesn't the world already have enough kids? Why should we fund schools and encourage people to have more kids? Fewer kids means more stuff for us, right?? (Who do you suppose is pushing that agenda? The newly marrieds?)
But I digress. I simply asked who we are rooting for - the one who kills the most of his citizens or the one who kills the least. So far, no answer.
I vote against you and I hope you lose in all your endeavors. Stop deceiving people. Give me back my country and get your hand out of my pocket.
How quickly we forget...
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-10-03/yemen-drone-strike-shows-carefu...
What crap , WE don't seem to care how many of THEIR cits WE kill as long as we bring freedom to the ones left after our butcher bill is paid in oil or gold or whatever.
Yeah, lets add them uip. Assad could slaighter 1000s for years and not get close to our freedom operations not to mention our embargoes of the past.
lose fail utter.
Why can't we settle this by putting Obama and Assad in a small room and let them fight it out. Just the two of them. I suggest the only weapons allowed are hand grenades. Win-Win.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-23/russia-prepares-to-destroy-u-s-...
It's just posturing, leverage, using the missile shield as a bargaining chip to secure Russias cooperation regarding Iran. I wouldn't worry about. The Russians can't even build a decent car.
The United States Armed Forces is now full of limp wristers, and their aircraft carriers have no working toilets. I wouldn't worry about it. The U.S. hasn't built a decent car in 40 years.
That is because America doesn't build cars. America doesn't even want cars they want bombs and blood and death and to be molested by their own government. How much does one B2 bomber cost in cars?
We have gone full sheep stupid as a nation and I guess there is no turning back.
Oh well, bring on the Ruskies: http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/report-russia-warships-to-enter-...
Stimulus! We need more stimulus...PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT PRINT
haven't we all been told (as subtly as a turd in a punchbowl) that war is good for the economy? This deployment is nothing but bullish for banks.
When all else fails they take you to war....so much for the civilized 21st century.
Is Barry going to go all in with this distraction by actually loading up the teleprompter with more hard words like "corpsman"?
He pronounced it corpse-man, didn't he? Was it a Freudian slip? Does he want more corpse-men?
Will someone light the fuse to all this eschatology. I missed my last ride,
Jewish businessmen are lining up at the Syria border to help "rebuild" the country after the "kinetic" conflict.
Flying carpetbaggers.
Finally! All my life I have been waiting for this moment, namely the complete and utter military annihilation of one of the last standing enemies of America and Israel.
There's only North Korea, Iran, and maybe Yemen left in the Axis of Evil now, to the great despair of unpatriotic libertarians and communists.
Bottom line is this: our enemies should beware of the wrath of God's chosen people.
Don't leave out Russia and China. If we have a military confrontation with Iran, both will likely back the Iranians.
There's only North Korea, Iran and maybe Yemen without a usury Central Bank
fixed it for you
Yep, Libya just got smoked.
They thought they could keep on keepin' on without having to abide by the fractional reserve banking extortion racket.
Thanks for proving once again that patriotism and religion are far more dangerous drugs than alcohol and narcotics.
At least the narcotics abuser and alcoholic come down to sanity when the drug wears off. Unfortunately, the patriotic/religious drug abusers never come off their high unless a stray thought or glimpse of reality is allowed to enter their brain. Hence the need for 24/7/365 Reich-wing radio programs to keep the stooges hypnotized.
I think that the Japanese are the chosen ones, but I'll take a Jew over a Muslim any day of the week.
Yemen went bye-bye-bye today. - Ned
"Bottom line is this: our enemies should beware of the wrath of God's chosen people."
This is sarcasm, isn't it?
Syrian protest groups were being interviewed in London earlier this week by foreign secretary William Haig. He said on a radio interview that as yet no group had been `officualy recognised` by `word leaders`.
Pretty obvious he was checking to see who will let Lord Rothchild open a central bank on behalf of the Syrian people to launder freshly printed USD for Oil.
Got to choose your puppets carefuly.
Syrian has no oil, dude.
Which Syrian?
The swarthy looking one
they stuck their dip-stick in and came up with shit.
Next stop Iran... Pyschopaths vs physhopaths
It's the innocent who will suffer.
You mean sanctions on medicine, baby formula, refined petroleum, potato chips and iPads doesn't hurt only the regime?
The Califate and the One are one. Like Rush likes to say, don't doubt me on this.:)
BUY GOLD NOW!!!
One of these days, Sunburn anti-ship missiles will be launched and a couple of aircraft carriers will be sent to Davy jones's Locker.
Yes. This has been every navy's dirty little secret since the Falklands war. Of course if you can maintain a large enough stand-off distance and keep your patrols up, this can be mitigated, but if whoever manages to light up two or three antiship missles at once at a carrier in range, we'll see history get written on many different pages.
This isn't an easy thing to do, but the probability of success is well above zero, and given the value of a carrier asset, it makes for a very interesting risk analysis problem.
The troops we pull outta Iraq gotta go somewhere.
Yeah they don't want those troops back in the US where they get to deal with the economic realities the rest of us are dealing with. Then the troops might end up joining the OWS movement.
We could put them to work picking fruit and row-crops out here in the Pacific Northwest. Agri-business says not enough Mexicans to do it.
Lots of negociating failing to deliver results around the world. War is simply negociation by other means.
Seriously? WTF, I thought our prez was going to be differnt than Bush......oh wait, forgot he's just a sock puppet.........
we're ready after latests tests in Afghanistan!http://www.break.com/index/javelin-missile-misfire-in-afghanistan-2225837
Is anyone stating to feel like German citizens in 1936 or 37..
Seriously WHAT THE FUCK??? This president just decides to go into Libya without prior concent or even a reach around for the congress and now we are amassing an armada off the Syrian coast.. NO TALKING OR ANYTHING..
Is this what the German citizens felt like as Hitler's panzer's rolled into the Rhineland and into Poland??
So when do we go for Operation Barbarosa and finally take Stalingrad..
Robert
conspiracy theories are theories no longer... the NWO is in plain view now, and they no longer care to hide it. fight now people, or the future for your children will be just as predicted by Orwell in 1984.
Too late. Boots and faces.
...and/or Revelation.
Give me back the Berlin wall
give me Stalin and St Paul
I've seen the future, brother:
it is murder.
The administration knows that if they do Syria as a prelude to Iran, the mainstream media will back it all the way. In fact, they will back Obama all the way to reelection. So, actually, this is all about reelection? You better believe it.
"This president..." - you mean Mr. Nobel Prince Of Peace...?
or "Mr. Nobel Prince Of Persia" ;)
Actually, I believe we are in the late '38 to mid '39 range myself...
"The radio station at Gleiwitz was attacked and as of 4 am this morning we're shooting back"
ah yes, fond memories, those. I'm so much older now. don't think my uniform will fit anymore.....
Yep. He read Adolf's book.
Yep. He read Adolf's book.
Obama makes no decisions, he's a figurehead that simply does what he's told.
You know what pisses me off is all those fucking liberal hypocrites who sit back and say nothing. It's okay to them if Obummer bombs brown people but if Bush bombs brown people then there are parades and protests. Remember "no blood for oil",and "not in my name"? For the record it is not okay by me if we bomb anybody. I'm sick of us sticking our nose in every body elses business. If their main export was broccoli we sure as hell wouldn't be bombing them. Fucking liberal hypocrites.
Well, liberals aren't against war in general, only when it's someone else doing it.
Too bad Ron Paul has no chance since he at least understands our destructive foreign policy.
I think Ron Paul has more of a chance than you think. That's why they try to muzzel him in the debates.
I hope to God you are right.
Hope and Change!
That's not a dig on Dr. Paul, just cold water.
one day they may wake up to the reality, the amrkn president has no say, or power, he merely delivers the messages.
the garbled speech of the last one, the teleprompter this one uses. . . all clues, if you let them sink in.
Wow. Took the pill dincha? There's more stupid people supporting Oblahblah's wars then stupid people sitting back saying nothing. Fuck i wish you yanks would give up the left right farce. You;d get a lot more done.
Well , at least there is a chance the lib turds will be against some war at some fukin point in time.
Now the pugs/cons , they seem to be for every war unless obama starts it and then after it is "won"bwhhhhaaaaa they are falling all over themselves to attend every fuukin parade and celebration.
give me a break.
Morals are as a fart in the wind to these criminals.
Why don't the pugs/cons get in the streets and stop this thing? BWHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
i kill somtimes!
I firmly believe that Syria is the gateway to Iran--the key objective. Sick reality.
Xcehn...spot on!! Syria is but an annoying country in the way to the ultimate prize, Iran. Once the US and her allies have secured Syrian airspace it'll be much easier for them to fly sorties in and out of Iran when that war begins....however, you have to somehow bring Syria to it's knees while China and Russia are watching and hope that they don't get involved...otherwise you will never make it to Iran...Yes, it is all clear now.
"you have to somehow bring Syria to it's knees while China and Russia are watching and hope that they don't get involved..."
I disagree - I think Ahmedinejad's "tens of thousands of suicide jihadists" are far more dangerous than China and russia combined...
- after all, isn't that what we have learned - or perhaps not - that even empires and their mighty armies can do nothing to prevent the strikes of asymetrical warfare a.k.a. guerilla and terrorist attacks?
I think we have to somehow get everybody to hope that we can take the US back from the Federal & military industrial and bankster complex - and get everybody out to vote in the GOP primaries for the only man who understands the stakes and the solution: no more empire and interventions and nation-building.
RON PAUL 2012
Instituting a no fly zone is a colossally stupid idea but the reality is that Iran would have no way to retaliate.
The US says they are going to protect Syrian citizens - how and where does Iran retaliate against that.
In fact the only possible legitimate reason for doing a no fly zone at this time is to send a message to Iran.
Meanwhile in Russia...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rhESdfIlAO8
(Please watch. Hiarious and short. Russians hate Pharaohbama too now?)
EVERYONE MUST WATCH THIS. IT IS HILARIOUS.
Titor right again.
Syria/Iran/Hezbollah vs Arab countries imposing the no fly zone...
Titor :
The Arab countries appear to have weapons of mass destruction. Do they use them against America?
Not against America but they are used against each other.
http://www.huliq.com/10282/military-draft-plans-standby-us-if-nation-nee...
Military draft plans on standby in U.S. if the nation needs more troopshttp://defense.aol.com/2011/11/02/hasc-hearing-joint-chiefs/
Joint Chiefs Predict Grim Future If Super Committee Fails, Sequestration HappensIf the Super Committee fails to make the budget cuts required by law -- something almost everyone here now believes is likely -- that will be really, really bad for the U.S. military.
The head of the largest service, and the Joint Chief with the most combat service, Gen. Ray Odierno, said the sequestration cuts "would be catastrophic for the military" and could endanger the all-volunteer force sequestration cuts. No one said the "draft" word but nothing worries an old Army man more than a return to the draft, especially in a time of austerity.
Titor :
Was a lot of the US 18-24 age group killed in the war because of a draft?
Yes.
Sorry to burst yer bubble, but Titor is a psy-op by the people planning the crap you're sitting in.
Maybe Iran has staged some crap in Syria as a sort of Sword of Damocles for when Israel attacks their nuclear infrastructure?
As good a theory as any also has Saddam's lost CBR materials trucked north to Syria right before the shit left the horse in '03. The Chinless Dentist might be exhibiting signs of cute ideas using that stuff and needs to be reminded to settle down.
Now we'll move a rook up here to shield the bishop as he sets up for a check...
Mighty difficult to ignore those three ( at least) Russian nuclear subs in the eastern Med. That's one big carrier.
War and death...the greatest show on Earth, bitchez!!
Well, I guess we can't let those automatic military cuts happen now...
Who wants to bet Paul Krugman is riding shootgun in the first B2 bomber over Damascus?
I'll take that bet. you think that fat fuck Krugman would put his Chicken Hawk loving ass on the line for a war he supports??? You are on fucking drugs Timmay...
Sure he would, he wants to personally validate the "Keynesian" effect of growth through death and destruction.
ROFL You got me there Timmay...
GOD PLEASE LET THE AIR FORCE PAYLOAD SPECIALIST ACCIDENTALLY LOAD HIS CHICKEN HAWK ASS INTO THE BOMB RACKS..
Please please please please...
Robert
The obvious solution to the western debt crisis is to have central monetary authors inflate away the problem. This solution has been limited by food and energy price inflation. While the US does not need to import it's food, it does it's energy. This problem is of course solved by complete western control of the middle east
Or you could print and then accept a lower standard of living. It's not written in stone that you all get a Mcmansion and 3 cars.
Wrong, we could cut opec by 50% if the demorat's and obummer would get out of the way with nat gas. Fact..........
Don't get too excited folks.
Moving "assets on the board" is sometimes effective diplomacy to PREVENT conflict and win without a fight.
Remember Sun Tzu.
Sun Tzu would never stretch his supply lines like the US has done and he would not pursue endless conflict without a definite goal.
Supply lines? You are aware that our supplies and reach are global, right?
For the moment we are still a global military power.
The cost of delivering a gallon of gasoline to our troops in Afghanistan is $100.
"The skillful soldier does not raise a second levy, neither are his supply-wagons loaded more than twice." -- Sun Tzu, The Art of War
I think our recent past shows we can leave the Sun out of this , we are not in the same solar system.
Our top mil is infested with political hacks and fools. It's an affirmative action disaster zone.
Wrong, but correct in spirit. It's actually $400 per gallon: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/63407-400gallon-gas-another-c...
$400 of fiat is literally nothing
Particularly if thet $400 is defending the ultimate backstop of the USD, the requirement to own it to buy oil.
Sunzi didn't have LM and co
And the Bosnia, Libya, Egypt fly over thing has has worked well for years without putting boots on the ground...just how provoked Iran will feel is the wild card
WTF do you know about Bosnia? In the weapon storage sites I inspected there, 100,000+ M-70s packed in cosmoline along with damn near any other weapons you can think of (including Thompsons, MP5s, Milans), just waiting for the occupying forces to leave, and just like after Tito's demise, a thousand years of religiousity will burst forth yet again.
Libya is fully tribal. They're also just waiting for the spot-light to turn on someone else, and kill each other until equilibrium is reached.
As far as I'm concerned, we have no business being anywhere outside the lines drawn on a map that denote "our borders." It's either that, or continue wallowing in shit "enjoying" the steepening decline in living standards.
"Prevent conflict"? I've got an idea! How about the U.S. and Israel mind their own fucking business? That will "prevent conflict" and in the process innocent civilians and military personnel don't have to die.
Chubbar, civilians are dying by the thousands in Syria right now.
The theat of force may save lives. Moving a carrier makes a huge statement without any commitment. The cost is low and the benefits could be very high (in saved lives).
maybe its smart, maybe its not but your comment is silly and meaningless.
Personaly, I have no idea if civilians are really being killed or not in Syria. For all I know it could just be propaganda like it was in Lybia.
Right now I assume that specials forces and local groups with forein backing are instigating violence in the country as to force the Syrian governement to respond with force. So "civilians are dying by the thousands" might actualy be "armed people fighting and dieing"