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Aircraft Carrier CVN-77 Parks Next Door To Syria Just As US Urges Americans To Leave Country "Immediately"
Yesterday we reported that the Arab League (with European and US support) are preparing to institute a no fly zone over Syria. Today, we get an escalation which confirms we may be on the edge. Just out from CBS: "The U.S. Embassy in Damascus urged its citizens in Syria to depart "immediately," and Turkey's foreign ministry urged Turkish pilgrims to opt for flights to return home from Saudi Arabia to avoid traveling through Syria." But probably the most damning evidence that the "western world" is about to do the unthinkable and invade Syria, and in the process force Iran to retaliate, is the weekly naval update from Stratfor, which always has some very interesting if always controversial view on geopolitics, where we find that for the first time in many months, CVN 77 George H.W. Bush has left its traditional theater of operations just off the Straits of Hormuz, a critical choke point, where it traditionally accompanies the Stennis, and has parked... right next to Syria.
From Stratfor:
And from CBS:
"The U.S. Embassy continues to urge U.S. citizens in Syria to depart immediately while commercial transportation is available," said a statement issued to the American community in Syria Wednesday and posted on the Embassy's website. "The number of airlines serving Syria has decreased significantly since the summer, while many of those airlines remaining have reduced their number of flights."
The warning followed an announcement in Washington this week that Ambassador Robert Ford would not return to Syria this month as planned, indicating concerns over his safety.
The Obama administration quietly pulled Ford out of Syria last month, citing credible personal threats against him.
The Turkish foreign ministry on Wednesday urged Turkish pilgrims to opt for flights to return home from Saudi Arabia and avoid traveling through Syria for security reasons.
The warning came two days after Syrian soldiers opened fire on at least two buses carrying Turkish citizens, witnesses and officials said, apparent retaliation for Turkey's criticism of Assad. The Turks were returning from Saudi Arabia after performing the annual Muslim pilgrimage to Mecca in Saudi Arabia.
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For all I know it could just be propaganda like it was in Lybia.
Chances are...
hmmmmmm
If i was sitting in Assads chair , i would see the carrier on my doorstep as saying I best kill off all the OWS dirty hippy and muzzie types RIGHT FUKIN NOW.
Cleary once the NWO says you got to go you can't deal anymore.
Peace through superior firepower!
Good. Its been a whole few months since we've had a new war.
These Mid-East despots are just dropping like flies.
"We are not a war with Islam--" Barky, Cairo, 2009
This is just one of the reasons that the majority of republicans, almost all independents and some democrats are hoping that Ron Paul doesn't get CHEATED out of running for President. I am an American and I don't want this to happen. I'm tired of innocent lives being taken and being seen as a murderer. The majority has lost control.
You and me both. I've had enough. I have three kids to worry about and these idiots are escalating WWIII. This sure isn't the country I grew up in. We certainly lost our way somewhere.
This whole situation has made me curious about Syrian Anti Aircraft Missle Defenses. It is hard to get a real sense for how capable they are. Having found they can't compete in the air with Israel, they have done like Russia and staked their money on AA Missle defenses.
The missile line up does not include the top Russian missiles like mobile S-300 as far as I can tell. There are some modern Russian short range systems for point defense. But they seem flush with static older Russian radars and missle batteries. These are easy targets and will die in the first hours.
I just wonder if Russia has sold some decent mobile systems and they have kept it quiet. In today's world, only a mobile system both missile and radars has a chance. You gotta set up shoot fast and get away fast.
There is little doubt that Iran was denied S-300 by Russia and I expect Syria was also denied. The west put enormous pressure on Russia to not sell S-300 to Iran. Israel called S-300 a game changer and a reason for military action if that system started to show up in Iran.
My best guess is Syria is basically open to air attack. They might knock down the odd attacker, but at a level that would not be significant to the attackers. So, let the games begin!
Iran has had the S-300 for about 3 years now.
Search: "Pirates Hi-Jack Russian ship and S-300's are missing" Or check this out. Isreal was trying to stop the transaction. See, Russia could not directly sell the S-300 to Iran so they claimed the loaded ship was taken by pirates and the "cargo" has been missing ever since.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/6170926/Arctic-Sea-was-carrying-missiles-to-Iran-new-report-suggests.html
***So, let the games begin!***
Right on! I say if these buggers don't want democracy and freedom, we bomb the crap out of them until they do!!
Hope they are not deployed long on a vessel with toilet issues: http://gizmodo.com/5859717/toilet-trouble-on-navy-carrier-leaves-5000-sailors-doing-the-pee-pee-dance
Ha! Ha! Pretty good stuff. I know all about that. When I was in the Navy and we were at battle stations for gunnery support missions we could not leave our station for hours. The good old Navy issue bucket served the purpose. And the junior man got to empty it over the side after secure from battle stations!
That may be where the old navy saying "Put a hole in a bucket and fuck it" came from?
War --> Obama's re-election --> Change we can believe in
Well said. Too bad the sheeple can't see through Dorian.
War is Working Obama 2012
nice compliment to those coexist bumber stickers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=wcW_Ygs6hm0
Reports are the Russians are sending some Navy to a Syrian port.
So Russian Navy in port, U.S. Navy further out to sea. The oligarchs pushing for civil war through funding, legitimizing, providing weapons, etc inside Syria.
Plus we have Iran, where even the ex head of the Mossad says attacking Iran is the stupidest thing he's ever heard.
The heads of state under control of the oligarchy are looking more reminiscent of an undead marionette than the character from 'The Gunstringer' kinect game itself.
If the 99 percent around the world chanted 'Glass-Steagall'.
The oligarchy within the 1 percent....or the 1 percent within the 1 percent (or even another level of 1 percent within)....would run and hide. The jig would be up, and the getting out while the getting is good window would be closing fast.
Syria, Libya, Iran,etc...is not about freedom. These are imperial quests.
what better way to cure unemployment, than bringing back the draft! beer of course!
So many posts, so little knowledge.
Seriously...... So conspiracy theories aside, is anyone bout to make a short play on Brent?..... I would, if it weren't for all the very recent talk on commodities taking a hit.....also the market in general is plunging...
How self-referential.
Anything to detract from Corzine having to plead the 5th; over and over and over and over.......
Don't forget Holder and Fast & Furious...
Thanksgiving Day Line up:
Cowboys/Dolphins
Packers/Lions
49ERS/Ravens
Syrians/"Arab League"
It is rather unfortunate how the book 1984 has become an instruction manual, and not a work of fiction.
All one needs to do is look at the Department of Defense. In the not so distant past, it was aptly called the Department of War.
In my opinion, if we become involved in a war with Iran, that will most likely be the last war we will be involved in.
One question I have had for a long though is:
Will Armageddon happen because of prophecy in the Bible, works of Nostradamus, and ancient religions foresaw it?
Or, will Armageddon happen because those in "charge" BELIEVE it must happen, and are doing all they can to make it happen?
That's a question I always ask myself too.
If we become involved.. in any way shape or form in a "war" with Iran, it's game over. I have been mining data points on communications between China, Russia, North Korea and Iran and the picture dosen't look good. Just pray for the best but expect the worst at this point.
WWIII for certain. I'm not trying to fear mongor or scare people, but that is the path that we have decided to take. Armegeddon? no, but our lives as we know it would be changed forever but not nessisarily the end of the world, just yours. I warned readers last night in a post the there will be a "no fly zone" declared over Syria, France and the Arab Nations just made it official today so NATO will commence an air raid attack in the name of a Humanitarian mission.
I think we have been brought to this point because ultimately, we are meer spectators of things on the Grand Chess board we call earth. There are powers that be that run the show, and it's not about money, it's about power and their influance over the unwashed masses.
There is an illusion on the surface of things that function around us from day to day, it's all perception, the truth is just under the surface.. litterally.
TPTB, are playing God with the human animal. 700 billion and counting.
Take care and have a nice Holiday.
1984 is the red playbook. Brave New World is the blue playbook. Atlas Shrugged is my playbook. It's the only dystopian novel with a happy ending.
Yes - I also like "Battlefield Earth" by L. Ron Hubbard.
So many similarities between Rand and Hubbard.
Hubbard was a human being though. MS Rand was a god damned animal at her best , at her worst she was the incarnation of satan on earth.
I can't believe people eat up her bullshit puke.
Yeah, I don't know. Not to try to pick the creepiest charlatan, but Hubbard's proclivity for little boys was pretty creepy.
Rand wanted people to follow their own dreams and live their own lives. Since you oppose her then you must want others to tell you what to do. So I'm telling you to stuff a sock in it. Now I'm happy and you're happy.
Actually, the game plan is written out in Brzezinski's The Grand Chessboard and the PNAC document (which, I believe, is now superseded by the same basic "we must go to war" document from the "left").
Armageddon will happen in order to reset things. It's a pretty straight-forward concept- mass distraction in order to bury the evidence, a hail-Mary last attempt by TPTB in hope that they can rise again after the dust settles: mass suicide. And when the dust settles, well, a new "messiah," a new paradigm handed down by another sect of authoritarians. Rinse and repeat, until... until Mother Nature hits the time-out buzzer and ushers in the Grand Tilling operation, the next glacial period descends. At this point we get to learn how to draw on cave walls all over again :-)
War is a Racket by Smedley Butler
Why we fightself fulfilling prophecy!
Ive only read about it happening on an 'individual' level, I do believe nations can manifest it as well.
I am sure Obama knows all to well that nothing stokes nationalism like a [new] war and rarely does a sitting President in the midst of a war get voted out. Also, will defocus the world for at least 48 hours from failing banks, countries, bond auctions, jobs plans etc...
Problem is (for him) that people are sick of it. We are sick and fucking tired of it!
"people are sick of it."
Unfortunately those people don't live in the US.
'We'?
You and I and most of ZH might be tired of it, but our goldfish-like fellow citizens seem to just eat it up.
Why are these guys trying to show Ron Paul's right? I thought nobody liked him.
In this day and age, war is very difficult to implement. The ability to inflict untold damage is limited to surgical strikes and their attendant collateral damage. Not your grandfather's carpet bombing.Which is probably a good thing, but then it makes you wonder about the cost of "policing".
Slavery should be the same, but unfortunately that part of civilization has not yet caught up. Slave labor is the most potent economic force there is. That includes of course those who control the capital that controls the slaves ... use your imagination to locate the epicenter of slavery.
Those who control the government control the slaves. The slaves give the government the sanction of the victim.
Government is the problem. Capital is necessary for life and liberty.
Capital is agnostic. Those who control slave labor through their control of capital are not. Capital does not require slave labor in theory or in fact.
Government is only part of the problem.
Would a voluntary society be perfect? Of course not. But giving over control of your life to those who have no concern for you is suicide.
Government is the problem.
Waters off Syria might be gettin' a bit crowded...:
This was four days ago, are we actually late to the party?
http://nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/International/19-Nov-2011/Russian-warships-enter-Syrian-waters-to-prevent-NATO-attack-report
Russian warships have entered Syrian territorial waters in an aggressive move designed to prevent any NATO-led attack on the country under the guise of a “humanitarian intervention”.
prevent any NATO-led attack on the country under the guise of a “humanitarian intervention”.
Naw! That's never happened before! </sarc> I keep telling the folks on the "Left" that they're only helping to facilitate war by encouraging "humanitarian intervention."
I think the most up to date terms are "responsibility to act", and "responsibility to protect", thinly veiled 2011 euphesmisms for, let's bomb the crap out em' and call it just.
Hey Guys relax.. the sailors just wanted to take a dump. Their Toilets are not working and they are really stressed out
http://hamptonroads.com/2011/11/toilet-troubles-add-sailors-deployment-stress-carrier
Sailors really are stupid. How hard can it be to piss off the side? Shit on a piece of cardboard and fling it.
Do you know why they have Marines in the Navy?
Because sheep are too obvious.
You guys need to get your head on straight. It is either us or them, (even more so as things get short). This is the beginning (and maybe the end) of the Resource Wars.
And if we are going to take out "consumers", we take out the ones who have vowed our destruction over and over and over again.
Unfortunately, Obummer ain't up to it. He is a wannabe.
But fortutnately, once Tel Aviv gets bombed with biological and chemical weapons, things will be out of Obummer's hands. And much of the cockroach horde in South Lebanon, Syria, and Iran will be either ashes or glowing a healthy radioactive red.
It had to happen, better sooner than later, when we will be weaker because of the Ponzi Excesses which have depleted our wealth as well as our expertise.
Grow a pair, you whiners who dream of being had both ways.
Thou shalt not kill.
Isn't there supposed to be one of these * after that?
I mean, it's not like that phrase was etched in stone anywhere, right?
Uh-huh!
Define "kill."
* from Pastoral Musings on Semantical Tactics to Loosen Previously Firmly Held Beliefs; Volume II
Kill: see government.
Well, if you could think beyond your short <blank> you'd have to raise the follow-on question: and after the coveted resources (O-I-L) run out, then what?
This strategy is little different than that of the crack addict.
Funny thing is is that I tend to agree with the various fundamentalists. At some point you've got to stick to the fundamentals lest you end up in this shit-mess that occurred because we've allowed ourselves to believe that we can perpetually grow on this here finite planet. Problem is, most of the fundamentalism also comes with BS baggage (always the case with vertical authoritarian societies).
An American aircraft carrier parked right next to a Russian naval base...at a time when the RF is threatening outright military retaliation in response to NATO interference in Syria and has stated they will blow up the European "missile defense shield" if the US continues to freeze them out of the process, which it appears that is exactly what DC intends to do.
shrewd.
so what happens when Turkish NATO F-16s, in an attempt to enforce this no fly zone, get shot down by missiles from Russian warships? will NATO loose face and withdraw, or will they retaliate and turn the middle east into an even worse clusterfuck than it currently is.
it would appear that the PTB's running western civilization are just itching to get a lot of people killed, as common sense dictates this situation is best left to Syrians to sort out internally and does not require any outside involvement from anybody else...
yet sadly here we are...again.
Common sense would say this isn't about Syria....
Russia won't lash out at Europe. Europe is its key energy customer. Ooh, wait! I can see a twist here... Europe ain't going to allow itself to be put in this situation, and here's why:
1) Russia can retreat and sit on its energy stocks.
2) Europe's people, w/o energy, will become totally unglued, thereby turning Europe into a NWO nightmare.
On point #2 I'm thinking that Europeans aren't going to tolerate any more propaganda. That is, I doubt that the "leaders" there could fabricate any reason to stir the populace to war: people will know why their energy is cut off should That happen.
Knowing the Russian expertise they'll probably shoot down F-16s belonging to the Royal Hellenic Air Force!
Knowing the US expertise they'll probably knock down and Iranian airliner and say the Russians did it.
I'm gonna laugh when some of that war and destruction fires back on all the warmongering scum in the US.
America today is like Japan in the 30s. Bunch of fanatics thinking that America is better then anyone else and imposing the will of America is civilizing the world. (but I guess that's true for every country who start wars)
It's always the innocent who suffer.
Define innocent.
Looks like the house of Saud has been promising to buy as much worthless fiat so that their Western partners can do all the dirty work of disposing of inconveniences.
What a joke, US/EU will take action against authoritarian leaders stomping protests and revolution, but will be blind, deaf, dumb, and hypocritical when it comes to themselves.
By the way, who's going to pay for another war that we don't want?
Yes, Stratfor “always has some very interesting if always controversial views on geopolitics,” not the least of which George Friedman never details anything that reflects adversely on Israel. “Controversial” is the most complimentary term for Stratfor I’ve ever heard: warmonger is far more accurate.
Even more damaging to the site’s credibility is its open advocacy of war with Iran – positioning America’s soldiers as cannon fodder for Israel’s aggressive resource plundering and border expansion in the Middle East – no man, woman, child or soldier to be spared except their own - of course.
It is George Friedman (as Stratfor), as many will remember, who has called for Obama to bomb Iran before the 2012 elections as a winning re-election strategy. Is Syria the prelude?
Here are the startling paragraphs in Friedman’s analysis:
“If Obama were to use foreign policy to enhance his political standing through decisive action, and achieve some positive results in relations with foreign governments, the one place he could do it would be Iran… Obama has avoided overt military action against Iran, so a confrontation with Iran would require a deliberate shift in the U.S. stance, which would require a justification.
“The most obvious justification would be to claim that Iran is about to construct a nuclear device. Whether or not this is true would be immaterial…. Nor would the claim be a lie. Defining what it means to almost possess nuclear weapons is nearly a metaphysical discussion. It requires merely a shift in definitions and assumptions…” (from The War Recovery, by David Broder, The Washington Post 2010
We've been changing a lot of definitions lately, haven't we?
Yea, I've been observing this phenomenon with awe. It's amazing how big of an impact the literary structuralists have had on modern discourse.
Here's my take. It started with the academic left trying to find a way to fool/confuse that part of the electorate that the Bamster termed the clingers (middel America). The left needed to fool middle America into voting for the left because the left couldn't get their vote by being open and honest (McGovern anyone).
The right then picked up on the game, and blew the left away. I think it was Rush Limbaugh who needs to get the credit for this. It is actually Rush's talent and the talk radio crowd that's responsible for the right being so successful.
The side effect of talk radio has been not only to show the shallowness/stupidity/absurdity of the left, but has also reduced the left to tantrums of vulgarity, abuse, outright racism, bigotry, mysogeny and all the rest of the really nasty behavior that the left has historically accused to right of practicing.
And the unintended consequence has been the implosion of the main stream media implosion and loss of credibility. They couldn't even spin the OWS into a Tea Party like movement. How sad was that:)
Stratfor/Friedman is a zionist NWO tool.
He is also an idiot; he claims US will rule the world for another century and face an alliance of Mexico and Turkey in yr 2050.
Ha. Wrong on both accounts. If EU crumbles, as is the verdict of the day, watch a multi lateral nationalist resurgence tear Europe and expedite both jews and muslims out of Europe.
Imagine that, no new Turkish Empire, rather muslims & jews can suabble over their holy gravel pit in the desert all they want and forever right back at home in that pit that they so profess to love and want to be in.
Theologically speaking: jews and muslims have everything and certainly the most important thing in common: "The Lord God Is One" - whereas Christians are of a different opinion: "Father, Son & Holy Spirit Are One" ....
Isn't it odd then, how both jews & muslims so often seem to have Christians by the balls - while they fight each other without end? Shouldn't the logical alliance be between jews & muslims against Christians? Theologically & Intellectually speaking, of course.
Stratfor/Friedman and every other zionist & NWO tool of course simply aims to co-opt Christians for their agenda.
Don't be fooled. Don't let them. Boycott them and all their media, corporations and corrupt political institutions.
RON PAUL 2012.
If anything, a Christian and Muslim alliance against the Jews would make more sense since they have more in common. You know what would be fun? An alliance of Christians ,Jews and Muslims verses Buddhists, Satanists and Atheists.
for the record, zionism is a secular movement, unlike judaism
The preparations are underway ...
http://www.wavy.com/dpp/military/increased-flight-operations-at-oceana
VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. (AP) - Navy squadrons based at Naval Air Station Oceana will be conducting heavier than normal flight operations beginning Nov. 28 for about one week.
The increase in flight operations is to support future deployments and training, a news release from NAS Oceana said.
Field Carrier Landing Practices (FCLP) will be conducted primarily at Naval Auxiliary Landing Field Fentress throughout the day and night.
However, some FCLPs will be conducted at NAS Oceana to accommodate the necessary training prior to the temporary closure of NALF Fentress.
The runway at NALF Fentress will be closed to fixed-wing air operations beginning Dec. 5 for about nine months to allow for necessary repairs and upgrades.
I think Obama's delusions of grandeur and ever precipitating ratings may just override his unwillingness to harm other Muslims.
Ron Paul 2012
never voted a sitting president out of office during war time
wilson
fdr
bush #43
???
The war party has lost at least twice:
Truman out. Stevenson loses. Ike in. Korean War ends 1953.
LBJ chooses not to run. Humphrey loses. Nixon finally ends Vietnam War in 1973.
Time to move out bitchez!
libertarian86.blogspot.com
Look at the positions and movements of all those on that map... looks like we're moving assets to protect/defend allies as though someone believed WWIII was about to break out.
We are surrounding China.
We should just dig a hole to there.
It's be cheaper, result in more shovel ready jobs, and result in far less carnage.
#WinningTheFutureJohnCorzineInnonenceProject
Topplefest 2011 rocks on.
Earthquake just hit Japan...
Just who are the Americans who want right away another Middle Eastern War? Why it’s the same warmongers who led us to Iraq. A piece from Gary Kamiya of Salon explains. Here is an excerpt:
THE BOYS WHO CRY "HOLOCAUST":
The same neocon hawks who lied us into Iraq are using the ultimate argument-stopper to push war with Iran | November 22, 2011
We’ve been through this before. As one of the most disastrous wars in our history is coming to an inglorious end, the same neoconservative hawks who dreamed it up are agitating for a new war that would make Iraq look like the invasion of Grenada — and using the ultimate trump card in American politics to silence debate over it.
When hawks begin beating the drums for war in the Middle East, Israel is usually a big reason why. That was true in the run-up to the war in Iraq, and it is doubly true with the current hysteria over Iran. Despite disingenuous claims to the contrary, the only reason the U.S. is even talking about war with Iran is Israel. As the invaluable M.J. Rosenberg, who knows the working of the Israel lobby as only a former card-carrying member can, notes, “It is impossible to find a single politician or journalist advocating war with Iran who is not a neocon or an AIPAC cutout. (They’re often both.)”
Ever since the International Atomic Energy Agency released its overhyped, old-news report on Iran’s nuclear program, Israel’s amen corner in the U.S. has been loudly calling for war…
http://www.salon.com/2011/11/22/the_boys_who_cry_holocaust/
And you know what the funny thing is. The shiite religion has always respected the Jewish religion. There is no other place in whole North Africa or Middle East where the Jews can live their religion so free and unharmed as in Iran.
They are still there the Jews of Persia, they are free to go to Israel if they want. Nobobdy is holding them back but they prefer to stay where they are because they are an accepted part of Iran. Shame on the fascist goverment of Israel.
So you think itler was wrong? You cannot just eliminate one of them. The whole group has to be accommodated or else the shitcocks will hide behind the 'good' ones.
And as the slogan refers to; on a long enough timeline everyone's survival rate drops to zero.
If you are up to no good, nepotistic practices, corner and control economies in order to push your zionist agenda, enslave 300+ million people, you know, all the good stuff, altruism and some such arguments.
Then you should be subject to a shortened timeline with all the trimmings!
Tyler is right!
Interestingly, one of those Persian Jewish families was that of Economist Nouriel Roubini, whose family was in the Oriental rug trade. He describes his early life as follows: "I was born into a relatively orthodox Jewish family in Iran, lived in Israel and Turkey, and then moved to Italy as a child. By the age of six, instead of going to a yeshiva, I went to a secular Jewish school where I interacted with kids from all sorts of different backgrounds. Had I gone to an Orthodox Jewish school, I would perhaps be orthodox now and may have never become a Global Nomad.” Roubini lived in Italy from 1962-1983; he speaks English, Italian, Hebrew, and Persian.
The Israelis can barely support themselves. People give the Actual state of Israel way too much credit. I think this is much bigger than them. Life in Israel is living in a constant state of paranoia and fear. They put alot of thought and effort into not getting blown up. This is not saying that there are not Jewish bankers and their Roman Catholic/Jesuit masters trying to create a NWO but Israel? Come on now. Leave the kids alone.
Hey cadet. Do you know how to read a chart? If so take a lookie here:
http://oi41.tinypic.com/2hfi2oj.jpg
Where is israel in the picture? Sweet spot right? How much $$ was stolen from the US to get them there? None you say? But then how did it get in this sweet spot? What did it sell? Deception? What does it make this tiny cuntry?
Where did Rummies $2.3 trillion go? Mars?
Iran testing ICBM's
With Iran testing ICBM's and being at the cusp of having nuclear weapons, we still only hear news about how the terrible Israelis and the big bad USA are threatening the poor peaceful Iranians. The Iranians in times past have repeatedly threatened both Israel and the US with attack, and the US and Israel have just stood by and done nothing. We have allowed the Iranians to build their weapons, and now we will reap our just rewards.
You don't let a maniac who is loading a pistol with bullets, and who is repeatedly stating, "Once I load this pistol, I am going to blow your brains out," to finish loading before you do something to stop him.... That is not if you wish to survive. But that is exactly what the US and Israel has done.
The Iranians are within a hairs breathe of being finished with their weapons. So what should our response be? More equivocating? More wishful thinking? Or should we take their threats at face value and do something before it is too late?
And for the record, we have deployed almost no forces to the Middle East, most of our Task Forces are in port, or otherwise detailed. Our Commander in Chief (sic) has deployed just enough forces in the area to get our tails kicked. So if the SHTF we will have high initial casualties, and only after a period of time will we be able to respond. And we can thank our Illustrious Leader for this.
I know I will be junked for this post, as the greatest majority of posts to Zero Hedge have been consistently anti-Semitic for quite some time, but I just get tired of all the Anti-American and Anti-Jewish hype, distortions, and plain out-and-out lies.
Will the real maniac please step forward?
One has only to read Justin Raimondo’s recent take on the now infamous 2001 Netanyahu leaked tape, BiBi Unmasked Caught on Tape, to know what the Israelis really think of us, and who the butchers really are, at home and abroad.
In 2001, Bibi Netanyahu paid a condolence call on a group of Israeli settlers in the village of Ofra, widows whose husbands had been killed in the Intifada: the videotaped conversation has just been leaked, and broadcast by Israel’s Channel 10, and it is a blockbuster. At one point, Bibi is telling the widows that the Palestinians “think they will break us,” but don’t worry, ladies, Bibi has a plan:
“To hit them. Not just one blow, but blows that are so painful that the price will be too heavy to be borne. The price is not too heavy to be borne, now. A broad attack on the Palestinian Authority. To bring them to the point of being afraid that everything is collapsing…
“Woman: Wait a moment, but then the world will say ‘how come you’re conquering again?’
“Netanyahu: The world won’t say a thing. The world will say we’re defending.
“Woman: Aren’t you afraid of the world, Bibi?
“Netanyahu: Especially today, with America. I know what America is. America is something that can easily be moved. Moved to the right direction.”
A child speaks up, and, surprisingly articulate, avers: “They say they’re for us, but, it’s like…”
Yes, even the children are little ideologues. Today that boy is a teenager on the verge of adulthood, and likely a fervent supporter of Israel’s ultra-rightist government, led by Bibi, who, back then, quickly assured him: “They won’t get in our way.” The child, hardliner that he was and no doubt still is, seemed doubtful: “On the other hand,” the kid ventured, “if we do some something, then they…”
That’s when Bibi really let his hair down:
“So let’s say they say something. So they said it! They said it! 80% of the Americans support us. It’s absurd. We have that kind of support…. Look. That administration [Clinton] was extremely pro-Palestinian. I wasn’t afraid to maneuver there. I was not afraid to clash with Clinton.” …
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2010/07/18/bibi-unmasked/print/
"but I just get tired of all the Anti-American and Anti-Jewish hype, distortions, and plain out-and-out lies."
Short tolerance threshold, eh?
Oh, but poor you, only having to suffer barrages of words. Meanwhile US and Israel continue to fucking slaughter people.
You get junked because if we wanted to hear this propaganda SHIT we'd turn on MSM.
Go talk to a shrink to work out YOUR problems. Meanwhile people like myself have to shell fucking money to these warmongers: yeah, why the FUCK do I have to work to support Israel? I'm not thinking that the founders of MY Constitution had this in mind at all!
No, I won't give you the satisfaction of accumulating "war wounds" (junks). Suffice it to say: fuck off.
why the FUCK do I have to work to support Israel?
Because you don't like them remember? Not in my backyard.
Your delusions are not worth a junk.
However you may want to investigate the actual process needed to build a weapn and the means that are in place NOW to monitor said completion.
what you are seeing and reading here is neither anti-american nor anti-jewish. what you are seeing is a bunch of people from all over the world that have woken up from the long stuper of misinformation, disinformation and propaganda. they realize they've been lied to and they are rightly and justifiably pissed off. the fact that israel has been the grand beneficiary of the propaganda and wars has been but a sad footnote that is now becoming a glaring headline.
no more wars for israel. no more aid to israel. no more apologizing for israel. no more accepting israels lies. and if that means the end of israel as we know it...then so be it. good riddance.
get used to it.
This is not anti-Israel: Just Facts: USS LIBERTY
http://www.gtr5.com/
...The Iranians in times past have repeatedly threatened both Israel and the US with attack, and the US and Israel have just stood by and done nothing.
I have no liking for the Iranian regime, but they have never threatened either the US or Israel except in retaliation if they themselves are attacked.
Peddle your lies elsewhere, warmongering filth.
This is totally bullish for Activision/Treyarch.
Things do change, Nov. 12, 2011 Bush and Stennis Pass Through the Strait of Hormuz,
http://www.strategypage.com/military_photos/20111118215541.aspx
Wow! Bush? You mean that fucker is still in the picture? You just can't kill zombies, can you?
Can you imagine a foreign power parading two LSTs in the Gulf of Mexico? Think we'd feel provoked?
(LST....Large Slow Target)
You want to know what's realy going on, follow this guy on Asia Times online.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/MK24Ak01.html
Very good link. He writes just what I'm thinking too.
Pepe is the man. One of the few reporters out there who can be trusted to give you the REAL picture of what's going on.
Some great posts. Wish I had time to read all of them but I need to go fill the gas tanks and buy some more ammo.
nothing like more dead american bodies to protect the american way of life of "cheap" perpetual oil.....the plutocrats got a good obedient waterboy when they hired the indonesian citizen for president....(and yes i know that syria has minimal oil)
www.obamacrimes.com
If there is hope, it lies in the proles. If they could become conscious of their own strength, they would have no need to conspire. History does not matter to them.
I just want to puke, what short memories the liberal demorat's have. If this was bush whacker sitting up to strike, there would be all out media war, blog war hitting the fan.
Fact is that the average american does not want war!! Do not fuck with us and we won't fuck with you. Obummer talked the left idiot's into his hope and change b.s.
How well has that worked out for us here people?
The world is fracturing finacially, food cost have risen 40%, obummer care will bankrupt small business and decrease quality health care. Should we keep adding here?
Hope, hope and change!!
Time to re-start this m-fer. I'm sick of paying for this b.s.
Ps, I takes 2 carriers to have prolonged 24/7 bombing capability.
Iran risk off.*
*excluding back swan
Iran can be bombed from Europe, particularly if Turkey cooperates. And since it was their citizen's bus that was hosed by the Syrian military I'm thinking that's two thumbs up.
Turkey has changed. They will not allow a flyover
The Turkish Air Force has about 200 modern F-16s. More than enough to devestate Iran's AF. They've also got the F-35 on order.
That does not mean they are on our side.
It will not be prolonged if we wish to try to take out their nukes.
not at all.
Report: US & Arab States Set To Impose No Fly Zone Over Syria
Iran Attack Dominates GOP Debate Sponsored by Neocon Institute
Iran says it will not hesitate to shut down Strait of Hormuz and ground global economy to a halt.
Well, Iran has been "a few years" away from developing nuclear capability since 1984 and still will be in 2030. The likelihood of war in the foreseeable future is therefore probably approximately zero.
This is no more about disarmament than it was with Iraq. It's just a pretext: oil; Israel.
No, it's because Iran has no nukes that likelihood of war is approximately 100%
5.9 Magnitude quake off Fukushima.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=37.3736,141.5099%28M5.9+-+Near+t...
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/story/2011-11-23/japan-earthquake-112...
Global Incident Map has the Japan quake at 6.1 - and FIVE consecutive quakes in B.C. ranging from 4.0 - 4.5.
http://quakes.globalincidentmap.com/
So this is this week's version of the end of "X".
I wonder what next week's version of the end of "X" will be.
You won't have to wait till next week, you will know on Friday. Syria is not Greece.
I took a couple of thousand out of the bank yesterday and I bought some canned food and plenty of candy and chocolate. Should be a wonderful Xmas.
nothing like getting your RDA of BPA's!
Bullish for popcorn, beer, and potassium iodide.
“Victory! Victory! On to the dance!”
The Victory Ball
(Alfred Noyes)
The cymbals crash and the dancers walk
With long silk stockings and arms of chalk.
Butterfly skirts and white breasts bare
And shadows of dead men watching ‘em there.
Shadows of dead men stand by the wall
Watching the fun of the Victory Ball.
They do not reproach, because they know
If they're forgotten, it's better so.
Under the dancing feet are the graves
Dazzling, motley, long, white waves,
Brushed by the palm-fronds, grapple and whirl
Ox-eyed matron, and slim white girl.
Fat, wet bodies go waddling by,
Girdled with satin, though God knows why;
Gripped by satyrs in white and black,
With a fat white hand on the fat white back.
See, there is one child fresh from school,
Learning the ropes as the old hands rule.
God, how the dead men chuckle again,
As she begs for a dose of the best cocaine.
“What do you think we should find,” said the shade
When the last shot echoed and peace was made?”
“Christ,” laughed the fleshless jaws of a friend,
I thought they'd be praying for worlds to mend,
“Making earth better or something silly
Like whitewashing hair or Piccadilly.
They've a sense of humour, these women of ours,
These exquisite lilies, these fresh, young flowers!”
“Pish,” said a statesman standing near,
“I'm glad they keep busy, their thoughts elsewhere!
We mustn't reproach ‘em, they're young, you see.”
“Ah,” said the dead men. “So were we!”
Victory! Victory! On to the dance!
Back to the jungle, the new beasts prance!
God, how the dead men grin by the wall,
Watching the fun of the Victory Ball.
Haaretz, yesterday:
Obama aide: End of Assad regime will serve severe blow to Iran
National Security Advisor Tom Donilon says no option off the table in dealing with Iran's nuclear program, adding that Islamic Republic's isolation is causing rifts in Tehran regime.
By Natasha Mozgovaya
The toppling of Syrian President Bashar Assad's regime would serve a serious blow to Iran and would serve to further isolate the Islamic Republic, a top U.S. official said on Tuesday, adding that change in Syria was "inevitable."
President Barack Obama's National Security Advisor Tom Donilon, speaking a day after the United States announced new measures against Iran over its nuclear program, said that "end of the Assad regime would constitute Iran’s greatest setback in the region yet—a strategic blow that will further shift the balance of power in the region against Iran."
http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/obama-aide-end-of-assad-regime-will-serve-severe-blow-to-iran-1.397144
no options off the table...no options off the table...no options off.....
Looks to me like the spring the US will have all its flattops ready for a large war. The cycling of the ships indicates the spring is go time.
Looks to me like the spring the US will have all its flattops ready for a large war. The cycling of the ships indicates the spring is go time.
There is more that can be pulled out of mothballs.
Carriers are used for a variety of ways, one classic method is to park it within some tinpot country and show that it alone has more power than the nation's entire pipsqueak military.
Long ago we had Battleships firing on Syrian Artillery positions on live teevee. I remember the flash and then a few seconds later the thunder rolling on the beach some miles away.
There is going to be a fight for sure and it will have to be done soon.
It's interesting because we had syrian tanks in Desert Storms helping out... mostly... in front and ... maybe... made to go away here and there when no one is looking with a sabot or two.
And one day they'll just sit there, like a bunch of repo'd Hummers.
Nothing says "I'm stupid for shelling out lots of money I didn't have/I fucked my kids over by buying shit that they'll be paying for their entire lives" like a Hummer, or an aircraft carrier.
bring on the "love bombs" thanks, barry.
self deleted for idiocy
The USS John Corzine is steaming full speed of ahead, after its recent commissioning.
Here's video of the recent ceremony:
USS John Corzine Commissioningcan they close it green?
The only no fly zone i'm looking forward to is the one in the center of my table tomorrow...if it aint got no wings, it aint flyin... Nom, nom, nOm, nom, nom
Just send Tony Rezco back.
Freedom isn't free! It cost folks like you and me.
And if we don't all chip in, we'll never pay that bill.
Freedom isn't free! No there's a hefty fucking fee.
And if you don't throw in your buck o'five who will?
im gonna go have a beer in my broken down IROC sitting on blocks outside of my double wide.
good day.
Who needs congress and a jobs bill?
Jobs and magical ponies for everyone in 3, 2, 1...
Ooops, that was some hefty last minute selloff in the market.
Tyler,
If you have time check this one out.
Energy Shock: How Peak Oil Will Change Your Life http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5wSHSvIMro 13 minute micro doc, without a doubt my best one ever.
Body bags bitchez.
Body bags made in China for the jiblets of blown up American G.I.'s.
Though the U.S. is constantly advising people to leave various countries, the rest of the signals re Turkey, Arab League are pretty disturbing. Again I find myself disappointed in the mainstream media- this story which has massive, terrifying potential is nowhere to be seen on the NYT front page or the Globe and Mail.
Need to get into some oil....
double post~
Just Obama continuing Allah's work for the Muslim Brotherhood to consolidate power in the region.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_pgvMg9I5Y&feature=g-all&context=G197ccALTs1iiQAMAA
Uploaded by PressTVGlobalNews on Nov 23, 2011
http://www.presstv.com/Program/211686.html
Once again the International Atomic Energy Agency has expressed 'increasing concern' regarding Iran's nuclear activities.
In its most recent report, the UN nuclear watchdog said Tehran appears to be working to be working on the design of an Atomic bomb.
Based on its report, a new resolution has been passed against the Islamic Republic by the UN Security Councils IAEA board of governors.
Iran has dismissed the report calling it politically motivated. Before it was published, Iran called on the Agency to list its concerns with its nuclear program and promised a response to each issue. But the IAEA did not so.
The Agency's recurring demand is that Iran suspend uranium enrichment and put its nuclear program on hold indefinitely until the Agency is fully satisfied that Iran is not in pursuit of building a nuclear bomb.
Iran also says it has never deviated from IAEA protocol; it has allowed every kind of inspection and has offered more cooperation than any other member nations. Thus it sees no reason to suspend its activities.
In this program we will be looking at the IAEA's most recent report and the Iranian response to the accusations.
"Once again the International Atomic Energy Agency has expressed 'increasing concern' regarding Iran's nuclear activities."
Pot being stirred by neocon boot-licker Yukiya Amano (IAEA head). Amazing how the US managed to get this war-monger into position.
But, as was shown in the lead-up to (illegal) invasion of Iraq, concrete evidence isn't needed, only talk is required.
Besides, the fuckers have oil, and, Israel hates them. Reason enough to kill a bunch of people, don't you think?
Any 20 years now and Iran really will be 20 years away from "the bomb." Must get serious... in need of BIG distraction.
hmmm...
...what about egypt, tyler?
(paste fr The Tripoli Post - Libya News and Business):
As Egyptians were gathering Tuesday afternoon in Cairo's Tahrir Square for a mass protest and a 'million-man march' to put pressure on the military to speed up the transfer of power, it was not clear whether the ruling Supreme Council of the Armed Forces, SCAF, had accepted the government's resignation submitted Monday evening.
Meanwhile, Al Ahram has reported that the non-stop battle between protesters and Central Security Forces (CSF) in Tahrir Square seems to be intensifying in the square’s once-grassy central island that is surrounded by banners, most calling on the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces (SCAF) to hand over power to a civilian administration immediately.
remember the fuking "ObamaDoctrine" speech? will the marines be coming soon to a pyramid near you? stay tooned, indeed, BiCheZ!
I smell another Peace Prize... Peace all over you too, Pubama.
I'm pretty sure the George HW Bush is the same ship that has "cronic plumbing problems."
Right-on team Tyler.
It was never clearer to me how much Amerika has a death wish.
Take Syria for Israel and us Americans will be killed off by the thousands. Why you ask?
The Cost of Israel to Americans
http://mycatbirdseat.com/2011/11/the-cost-of-israel-to-americans/
Syria is will be liberated. But just like Egypt, the brotherhood will take over.
We're going to free the shit out of Syria