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Aircraft Carrier Enterprise Sets Off On Final Journey - Direction Iran

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Today at noon Eastern, the storied aircraft carrier Enterprise, aka CVN-65, left its home port of Naval Station Norfolk one final time for its final voyage with a heading: Arabian Sea, aka Iran. There in a week it will join CVN 72 Lincoln and CVN 70 Vinson, as well as LHD 8 Makin Island, all of which are supporting any potential escalation of "hostilities" in the Persian Gulf region. As a reminder, back in January we learned that the Enterprise's final voyage will be in proximity to Iran, and in the meantime, the aircraft carrier held extended drills off the Florida coast to attack a "faux theocracy"  consisting of fundamentalist "Shahida" states. Why the Arabian Sea in about 7-10 days will be home to not two but three aircraft carriers and a big deck amphibious warfare ship is very much an open question, although we may have some thoughts. 

More:

Thousands of sailors will deploy today from Norfolk on the USS Enterprise for the last time on Sunday.

 

Nearly 5,500 Sailors aboard the ships of the Enterprise Carrier Strike Group (ENT CSG) are scheduled to deploy from Naval Stations Norfolk and Mayport, Fla., March 9, 11 and 12, to support operations with the U.S. Navys 5th and 6th Fleets.

 

The aircraft carrier USS Enterprise (CVN 65), commanded by Capt. William C. Hamilton Jr., will depart from Naval Station Norfolk for the ships 22nd and final deployment March 11.  

CVN 65 will not be alone:

After the Enterprise leaves Sunday, three Norfolk-based guided-missile destroyers will head out Monday — the USS Porter, USS Nitze and USS James E. Williams.

 

The strike group is commanded by Rear Adm. Ted Carter Jr.

 

Carrier Air Wing 1, based at Naval Air Station Oceana in Virginia Beach, will be embarked aboard the Enterprise.

 

The Enterprise was launched September 24, 1960, by Newport News Shipbuilding and Drydock Co. and commissioned November 25, 1961.

 

Its record of high-profile service began with the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962. Since then, it has served in countless missions around the world.

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The aircraft squadrons of CVW 1 embarked aboard Enterprise are: Strike Fighter Squadron (VFA) 11 Red Rippers, VFA 136 Knighthawks, VFA 211 Fighting Checkmates, Marine Fighter Attack Squadron (VMFA) 251 Thunderbolts, Carrier Airborne Early Warning Squadron (VAW) 123 Screwtops, Carrier Tactical Electronic Warfare Squadron (VAQ) 137 Rooks, Fleet Logistics Support Squadron (VRC) 40 Rawhides, and Helicopter Anti-submarine Squadron (HSL) 11 Dragon Slayers.

Some pictures released minutes ago from Enterprise's final deployment:

Finally, this is how congested the Arabian Sea looks right about now, where two carriers and one assault ship are currently located, via Stratfor.

 

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Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:18 | 2245601 Missiondweller
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Please don't be disrespectful to our troops.

 

Its one thing to attack the President or COngress who make policy, its another thing to attack these people who putting their ass on the line, many so they can get an education throug the GI Bill.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:26 | 2245623 Orly
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Hear here!

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 20:53 | 2246086 Jendrzejczyk
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Orly,

     You are one of the smartest and most respected members of the ZH community and I want to stand with you and salute the troops, but I can't. We're not far from the Vietnam era spitting on the returning troops and that makes me sick too.

     Every one of us is to blame for allowing our government to send them off to kill. We should be spitting on ourselves.

 

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 23:40 | 2246328 FeralSerf
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I don't think most of us here are "allowing our government to send them off to kill."  We don't have a fucking thing to say about it anymore and it pisses me off.  Our "representives" ignore us.  If we refuse to pay our taxes, the IRS just takes everything we have and may even jail us indefinitely.  If we march or demonstrate, we get pepper sprayed or much worse.  How can we stop them?

The government no longer has "the consent of the governed" as far as I'm concerned.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 23:32 | 2246319 Cathartes Aura
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If you continue to cheer those who enlist to die for the corporate military industrial complex, you will be encouraging their deaths, and the deaths of all the other humans in nationstates worldwide.

stop with the war mongering, and tell yourselves the truth about why these people are killing in "your name" globally.

what will it take for people to wake up???

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:32 | 2245631 Conrad Murray
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Why should anyone excuse them for enabling the policies of their masters? I doubt you would be so willing to defend the SS troops(and no, not the heartless pieces of shit from the Marines that were flying their flag).

If they united and marched on NY/DC in order to upend the system of Central Planning that makes college uaffordable, they would get respect. Going out to murder foreign people, while hiding behind the curtain of wanting to go to college(ostensibly, and ironically, to become "enlightened" or wiser) makes them so far below despicable, I don't think there's a word for it.

You can praise useful idiots and tools all you want. I will not.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:44 | 2245688 jwoop66
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What do your parents do for a living?

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 18:23 | 2245790 dwdollar
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I did 4 years in the chAir Force after 9/11. I'm man enough to admit I was duped. There's some good people in the military. There's also a lot of Omega males pretending to be Alpha males. It's easy to be brave when you're obeying your masters and doing their bidding. It's much harder to be brave and to rise against them. Not much different than the civilian males I guess. I don't pretend to be any different, I just say what I believe to be the truth.

Truth is a bitch sometimes.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 20:16 | 2246019 New_Meat
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civilian carreer?

military career?

civilian career?

military career?

Oh, shit, I'll compromise!

;-)

- Ned

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 14:02 | 2247806 aerojet
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Not much different because the military pulls from the same population.  Being in or out of the military doesn't change anything except in your mind.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 18:16 | 2245784 Hedgetard55
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Conrad,

 

     Go fuck yourself.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:31 | 2245640 FeralSerf
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They're big boys and girls.   They should know by now that America is not doing this to defend America or "American values".   No one if forcing them to join the military anymore.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 20:19 | 2246027 New_Meat
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"No one if forcing them to join the military anymore."

nor has it been for a lotta' years.  And the demographic data are not what the three-letter media tell.

- Ned

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 20:33 | 2246059 toady
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The point that is missed, not just by you, but this whole thread, is that there are 2 different recruits. One is the gung-ho, ra-ra that signed up on 9/11, and the other is the down-n-out, no other option, unemployed slacker.

The gung-ho crowd gets what they want, the slackers get to eat.

I can feel some sympathy for the slackers trying to eat, but the gung-ho can go to hell.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 23:35 | 2246322 Cathartes Aura
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no sympathy for anyone who volunteers to kill innocents for money.

none.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 14:05 | 2247812 aerojet
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And yet, despite their particular levels of laziness or lust for violence, all are willing followers who display very little true creativity, so there's that.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:33 | 2245643 Dugald
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Well said Missiondweller,

If you have not manned the wall, you have not earned the right to throw shit at service personnel..

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 19:47 | 2245967 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Dugald bleated:

If you have not manned the wall, you have not earned the right to throw shit at service personnel..

Bullshit. If they're engaging in a war of aggression as mercenaries in service to a foreign power, and doing so in the name of my country under the orders of marionettes that laugh at the constitution, I'll throw as much shit as I like.

Your ignorant jingoist comment is analogous to saying, "if you've never worked as a concentration camp guard, you have no right to criticize them." It's fucking bullshit, Bubba.

What they're doing is pissing on the graves of every man and woman that died defending the constitution. If they want my respect, they can do it by shooting down the Israeli attack.

 

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 01:56 | 2246491 mkkby
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Bullshit.  These idiots know they are not defending their country.  They don't deserve our respect.  We need to make it shameful to follow orders to kill people so a banker or oil exec can have his bonus.  Fight on US soil next time it's invaded, or tell you traitor in chief to go shove it.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 14:05 | 2247814 aerojet
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That's what you have been conditioned to believe.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:46 | 2245691 Yardfarmer
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" many so they can get education throug the GI Bill." are you kidding? i think you're in the wrong forum.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 18:08 | 2245758 ChrisFromMorningside
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Seriously, right? How DARE anyone challenge my right to kill other people and bomb the shit out of a nation. Fuck, don't you understand that I need freebies from the government?

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 20:07 | 2246005 alien-IQ
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Perhaps we attack the troops because they make policy possible through their servile acceptance of criminal orders?

What if we declared a war...and nobody showed up?

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 21:10 | 2246115 Debt-Is-Not-Money
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"What if we declared a war...and nobody showed up?"

The last constitutionally declared war was WW2!

About 15 years ago your suggestion was tried out by Michael New. It didn't end so well for him.

Shit flows downhill. We must get to the top of the hill and decapitate those who are there. There is no other way to stop the shit.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 14:07 | 2247825 aerojet
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I forget who said it, but it was something like "you can always get half the poor to wage war on the other half."  Understand, that by poor, I refer to anyone who is in the lower 99.5% of the economic "system" which includes me.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:50 | 2245707 Totentänzerlied
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Last time I checked we have neither a conscript military nor any form of draft, so each and every one of them chose to be there, and each will make a choice to follow orders. Sorry, no excuses.

 

 

 

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 17:55 | 2248694 potlatch
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I do not think "war" means what you think it means.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 16:36 | 2245471 Seize Mars
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Enterprise sets sail to her destiny: false flag attack target.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 16:40 | 2245487 scatterbrains
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If I were a sailor on board and noticed that most of the aircraft appeared to be in various stages of disrepair I'd start shitting bricks.

 

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:14 | 2245582 noob
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premeditated, huh?

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 18:15 | 2248742 The Heart
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+1

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:37 | 2245664 Thomas Jefferson
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Its too expensive to remediate the asbestos problem on the USS Enterprise.  Where have I heard this before?

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 22:18 | 2246237 benb
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Yes, but first lets find out who took out three insurance policies on that same carrier.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 08:54 | 2246838 prole
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Mr. Silverstien-- You have a check for 4 Billion Dollars in the Lobby -- Mr. Silverstein?

Wed, 03/14/2012 - 01:36 | 2253108 geekgrrl
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Pull it.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 18:44 | 2245824 Iconoclast
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Bingo

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 16:36 | 2245472 Below Zero
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Are they going to transfer the nuclear reactors aboard the USS Enterprise to Iran before mothballing the ship?

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 16:42 | 2245498 a growing concern
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Nope.  They'll be polluting those waters from the bottom of the sea floor for the next several centuries.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:44 | 2245687 knukles
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Teach the Godless Ragheads to Fuck with Jesus Christ and America
         -some republican candidate

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:57 | 2245725 Conrad Murray
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Or Barack Hussein Obama, the Peace Prize president.

Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Libya, Sudan, Uganda, etc. And he's only getting warmed up for Syria and Iran. Doin a heck of a job, Browny.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 18:23 | 2245794 ChrisFromMorningside
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They're not getting "warmed up" for Syria. They're already in Syria.

(Bloomberg: Syria Detains 13 French Officers in Homs http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-03-05/syria-detains-13-french-officer...)

You forgot Yemen. Yemen is where the U.S. killed U.S. citizen Anwar Al-Awlaki for being a propagandist, then killed his U.S.-born son two weeks later for being the son of a propagandist, in drone attacks.

You also forget that the U.S. performed drone attacks on militants in Somalia last year.

Many of you talk about World War III "starting soon." It already started. We are in the opening phases. Germany and Japan began an ambitious imperial expansion and resource-grabbing endeavor in the mid 30s in Eastern Europe and the Asia-Pacific region respectively. It was years before they stepped on the toes of Britain and the U.S. By then, the Allies realized the Axis had gotten too big for its britches and was a challenge to their own economic stability and growth. Right now we're in this initial phase. The U.S.-U.K.-Israel Axis is in a period of imperial expansion and resource grabbing. Iran will be the tipping point. Iran will be the point where our imperial expansion begins to legitimately threaten China and Russia and the other emerging economies in the Asia-Pacific region.

 

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 18:41 | 2245817 CompassionateFascist
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Also southern Phillippines, where a Muslim uprising against the Manila regime has been sparking on and off since about 1903; last week ObamaDrones killed some of the movement's leaders.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 21:15 | 2246126 Debt-Is-Not-Money
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"You forgot Yemen. Yemen is where the U.S. killed U.S. citizen Anwar Al-Awlaki for being a propagandist, then killed his U.S.-born son two weeks later for being the son of a propagandist, in drone attacks."

Yemen was where the USS Cole was attacked by a rubber raft! LOL

Who fired the Exocet missile?

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 18:18 | 2245787 Hedgetard55
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knuckles,

 

     Fuck you.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 17:57 | 2248699 potlatch
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If that becomes the narrative the servants are told, I shall be consterned, really I shall.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 16:59 | 2245545 NeoRandian
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I think dumping the reactors into the gulf is part of the attack.

 

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 16:38 | 2245476 Manthong
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 "Carrier Strike Group"

They're going over for some baseball, right?

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:00 | 2245547 MsCreant
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Nah, they are labor unions and they plan to picket.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:29 | 2245628 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Lucky Strike Green Has Gone to War.

http://www.antiqueadvertising.com/to-war.jpg

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:49 | 2245699 knukles
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Unions!  They'll get theirs!
An announcement of 4 new carriers upon which to begin construction Immediately.
One to replace the sunk Enterprise
One extra for good measure to scare the piss out of them ragheads who wipe their ass with their hands in the caves in Tora Bora.
One for Montana
One for just plain good measure to prove that America's unionized labor can sill bar none build the best shit for killing in the whole fucking world.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:56 | 2245721 knukles
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And now, I'll take some questions.
Yes, Miss Shitforbrains from Pabulum Broadcasting.
Sir, what will this mean for the deficit?
Who the fuck knows or cares Ms. Shitforbrains, there can't be a deficit as there's no budget.  

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:57 | 2245723 MsCreant
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I left a message for you on a different thread. You left me one...

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 18:44 | 2245821 knukles
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Ms. C, I responded. 
The thread is backing up against the right margin.
Can continue at my next comment below the one I just left...be easier to read.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 16:37 | 2245477 Park city skier
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March 20 2003, iraq was invaded.  march/april 2012 iran ? just like clock work due to temp.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:17 | 2245597 jwoop66
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The best temps over there are from Oct - April.  After that it is godawful hot!

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:17 | 2245598 TBT or not TBT
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The US military operates just fine at night.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:48 | 2245635 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Some of them even sneak out of their compounds at 3AM and...

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 18:54 | 2245845 NumberNone
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Some even sneak into their own bases and kill their comrades for their own motives.  Something about the story in Afghanistan fucking stinks.  I will be curious to hear all the facts.

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/fort-hood-shooting-army-doctor-leaves-12-dead/story?id=9007938 

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 18:59 | 2245857 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Do you have a degree in Two Wrongs Make a Right?

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 20:02 | 2245990 NumberNone
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Don't be a presumptive ass and think that I'm condoning the action as some sort of revenge.  I'm saying that we don't know what the hell happened.  All we know is that a soldier walked off a base, shot a bunch of people, burned their bodies, and walked back to the base and turned himself in.  Seems very calculated.

What if the gunman was Muslim? Does that matter?

What if he did it in response to an honor killing?  What if the families murdered someone that he was close to and did it in an extremely malicious fashion?  Setting fire to the women is common.  Does that matter?

http://www.rawa.org/temp/runews/2012/02/29/brutal-honor-killing-of-an-innocent-girl-by-strongmen.html

Could be the guy was just Johnny Good Christian who snapped and wanted to fuck up a bunch of people.  The events are going through the government spin filter.  Will be interesting what it spits out. 

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 20:05 | 2246000 CrockettAlmanac.com
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It sure as hell looks like you're tying yourself up in knots trying to condone that action.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 00:17 | 2246388 Calmyourself
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Is that what that read like to you CA, bullshit.. Looks like your ignoring perfectly sound reason so you can spout off about the evils you perceive.  The Stan sucks for them, us, everybody, now go picket the White house with a baby killer sign..

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 01:00 | 2246449 CrockettAlmanac.com
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The perp returned to his base and confessed. There is no mystery Muslim at fault. But please feel free to continue spinning disjointed conspiracy theories. I could use a laugh.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 17:59 | 2248709 potlatch
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How curiosity gets turned into condoning, is a secret trick you will have to teach me.  I don't see any condoning here.\

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 14:13 | 2247850 aerojet
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What if, like the asshole who shot up Ft. Hood, he's just one of the many thousands of ticking timebomb sociopaths that the military manufactures?  Every person alive can only stand so much horseshit before they crack.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:37 | 2245662 Debt-Is-Not-Money
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New Moon is 3-22-12, one day after the Spring Equinox.

If "they" are going to do anything my money is on 3-21-12.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:43 | 2245683 TBT or not TBT
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Not enough time to prep an invasion, but a take down of the air defenses plus destroying the entrances and exits, power and heat exchange systems of the nuclear facilities can be organized quickly. The Pentagon war games this stuff. They've been prepping such action continuously.

As to moon or no moon, the US military is better off with NO MOON, for commando type operations. US special forces and even marines/rangers etc have the advantage, by far, in the blackest conditions.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 01:03 | 2246455 CrockettAlmanac.com
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The recently retired chief of Mossad says you are wrong. So does the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs. Both say that an attack on Iran would be a mistake. Neither wants to see their people hurt by an unnecessary conflict.

But you know better than them and you're brave enough to risk the lives of US and Israeli soldiers and civilians alike. You're quite a guy.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 18:02 | 2248720 potlatch
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woah.  the generals said a war would be a mistake?  well, that certainly is a game changer.  Important info, that!  What's that?  Some book also says to beat swoards into plowshares?  Next thing you are going to tell me, is that Jimmy Carter is not actually overseeing CIA operations at a retail level via election monitoring.  Come on!  -- GOB Bluth

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 14:15 | 2247857 aerojet
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I don't think they can do it. I think the assault on Bin Laden's compound in Pakistan stressed their capabilities to the max.  Unless it's a suicide mission for all the spec ops folks involved, they aren't going there. 

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:58 | 2245727 knukles
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Dude, that's my sobreity date....

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 09:56 | 2246973 goldfish1
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Vernal Equinox date:

March 20, 2012 at:

01:14 for those in Eastern Daylight Savings Time


Vernal Equinox dates according to time zones:

http://www.archaeoastronomy.com/2012.shtml

 

New Moon date:

March 22, 2012 at:

09:37 for those in Eastern Daylight Savings Time

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:38 | 2245668 TBT or not TBT
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Look up "NVD".   The thermal ones available now to civilians in the US will even show the residual warmth from recent footprints, and the recent generation classic NVDs are pretty astonishing.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 23:56 | 2246347 Cathartes Aura
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March 20 is the Vernal Equinox, sun at zero degrees Aries, god of war.

March 22 new moon (maximum darkness) at 2degrees Aries.

planets also in Aries, Mercury (communications, messages), retrograde (so "mis-communications"); Uranus, sudden events, that precipitate changes, both outer and inner awareness, traditionally referred to as "awakenings to truths"

and then Pluto, death, destruction, endings, in Capricorn, sign of what is believed in made real (religion, nationstates, also Father, etc.) which is in square to all this - squares are tension, forces that get released through actions.  Aries acts, no forethought, just acts.

yeah, I know, fucking astrology,* eye roll*. . . but just looking at the archetypes here, rather interesting. . . Enterprise should be in the area in eleven days, hmm?

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 02:30 | 2246511 Oh regional Indian
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noice noice, in a sad sad way.... hey, did you ever notice the clear and present Fukushima Prediction on March 4th?

Re-membering as the day rolled by...

ori

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 21:56 | 2249317 Cathartes Aura
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hey V ~

just paid a re-visit to that post, to see what was actually written. . . while I wasn't specific, planets did mark an event, eh.  I don't think in terms of "predictions" - I leave that to those who believe they can - but I do watch patterns, and charts, and pay attention. . . there are so many variables at play, and the way I understand "astrology" is that events happen "to" entities with co-responding aspects - so it's not so easy to accurately predict a when & where (with individuals it is easier to isolate events, as you have a natal chart to work from) in global events, as which charts would one apply to?

still, we do know that "they" are prone to use specific calendar days as *dog whistles* to each other, to pay attention, to reward, to frighten, etc. - watching those days, which are old "holy" days for any number of belief systems, recycled, co-opted, etc. - we can anticipate events sometimes, but predict?  who knows. . .

and, with that being said, last year had some important days, and shifts, for many globally. . . I believe this year will have more unfolding from patterns, particularly as Uranus in Aries and Pluto in Capricorn come to square off - June will be an exact square, and there will be more, as the squares stays close through 2016. . . and of course, other planets get added to the mix(es) over the months - again, who's to say what outcomes await?

as above, so below, as within, so without

hope all goes well with you!  peace my friend.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 16:38 | 2245479 spiral_eyes
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I believe the U.S. strategy of sanctions and threats is to try and provoke an Arab spring event in Iran a la 2009. Given that this strategy seems like it will obvious fail, I think America will end up with egg on its face, as everything else seems off limits. They can't start a war, especially now China and Pakistan have hinted at offering support to Iran! America is too overstretched, too deeply in debt, etc. Israel is too cowardly to do it without American support.

There are two wildcards:

1/ Paul Krugman. Yes, the people in Washington may be so desperate for better economic numbers that they will be willing to start a war in the name of aggregate demand.

2/ The PNAC people. America's primacy is fading, so Washington may choose to gamble and stake its future on one final push to smash Eurasia beneath Washington's will, in a desperate attempt to retain petrodollar supremacy. I think this would be doomed to failure due to America's lack of manpower, dependency on foreign goods and resources, etc, but some of the neocons (e.g. Krauthammer) may be so ideologically tied to the era of American primacy they will support literally any policy that will extend it

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:25 | 2245619 TBT or not TBT
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Obummer, the former lecturer on how to get power, the Alinskyite, would stop at nothing to get a second term, including playing the "Rally around the president" card.

If he and the machiavellic anti-american sickos around him think that will work, we will get an actual hot war against the regime in Iran, or lots of brinksmanship and posturing just shy of that, with the Obama-loving media playing it to his favor.

The prize, folks, is the ability to destroy the meaning of the Constitution with the next round of Supreme Court appointments. I mean, if the Supremes don't destroy it this summer by perverting the Commerce Clause to authorize Tyranny.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 18:05 | 2245745 Conrad Murray
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The prize, folks, is the ability to destroy the meaning of the Constitution with the next round of Supreme Court appointments

Exactly. This doesn't get anywhere near enough discussion. Good to see others are watching. Cheers.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 19:44 | 2245961 Vic Vinegar
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To Conrad Murray, a/k/a, one of the most complex people to comment on a site full of complex people:

What discussion are we supposed to have, buddy?  You know reality as most people see it lies in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvj6zdWLUuk

Good to see others are watching.

Watching means what, exactly?  Not trolling, just curious as to what you mean.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 10:28 | 2247069 i-dog
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The SCOTlUS is already stacked with a majority of luciferians. There will be no decisions favourable to "the people" from this court.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 16:39 | 2245486 NeoRandian
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Recall that big luxury cruise ship that recent hit some random something and sunk? So does the public, whose consciousness is now sufficiently prepped to accept a giant ship hitting a big something by accident and sinking, without asking too many "Why in the hell How in the hell could this have happened to a modern ship?"

Of course, this event won't be blamed on a coke sniffing pilot, but Iran for failing to clean up the mines that CIA/Mossad placed in the path of the enterprise. As the carrier sinks, the orders will be given to scramble the jets on a retaliatory strike or emergency landing into Iran, where the pilots will be shot down and taken as prisoner, ensuring that we will have to invade to recover them. 

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 18:50 | 2245837 my puppy for prez
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You could be a successful screenwriter.....except your plot lines wouldn't make it past the owners of Hollywood...

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 16:54 | 2245489 New World Chaos
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Israel will vaporize it with a nuclear torpedo.  USS Liberty on steroids.  This will save us from the massive expense of decomissioning its 8 reactors.  The banksters have a better use for that money:  They will preserve the ponzi for another couple hours so they can buy solid gold toilets in their bug-out bunkers.  The Iranians will eat fallout for the next million years as punishment for not taking worthless Rothschild paper in exchange for their oil when they switch over their payment systems next week. 

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 16:42 | 2245491 Sudden Debt
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Taxdollars wel waisted....

Let's hope not to many of the sailors die for the smokescreen coverup...

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 18:05 | 2245595 noob
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or from a Sunburn
(tho i doubt the sailors are privy to the gag) 

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 16:43 | 2245496 I am Jobe
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And Amerika will continue to talk about human rights violation all around the world.

Sheeples are too busy with Snookie and crap and don;t even know where Iran is? Now you can call Amerikan's too inbred.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 20:54 | 2246090 francis_sawyer
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Obama is working on his NCAA Brackets at the moment...

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 22:18 | 2246236 NoClueSneaker
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Shit, who cares- decline in Europe is worse. All the fuckin' brain flushed away, all the balls dried off, all the deads rotating more than the walking zombies.

Half a billion in kinda Gitmo-Matrix- and they luv it !!!

 

Bring it on, Uncle Sam, push the fuckin' button ... Choosen Kocks & Aborted Again should have their ball ...

 

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 16:42 | 2245497 BW
Sun, 03/11/2012 - 16:51 | 2245514 Ahmeexnal
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That's got to be a joke.

The USVI is where the power elite have their bunkers for when TSHTF.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 16:54 | 2245525 a growing concern
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I've been to St. Croix, and I highly recommend it, especially if you're a fan of drinking lots of rum.  That being said, I don't think it's a sophisticated enough place to see a bunch of power elites bailing out there.  Unless they really like rum.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:28 | 2245562 tickhound
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Frederickstead at sunset, bitchez.  Its the Corona commercial with suspect weed.

But on the subject... Its got an oil refinery, plenty of land/farm/food, don't forget the casino. A leeward side dock can handle any large USS cruise liners.  Arid to tropical climates... Some pretty self sustaining digs if you ask me.   

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:41 | 2245675 FeralSerf
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Well off the beaten path too and big enough to have water.  I hear the refinery has been shut down.  Real estate looks cheap, especially the empty condos.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:53 | 2245713 tickhound
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Ya know?  We should start a commune.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:09 | 2245566 Normalcy Bias
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Yeah, because when TSHTF, nothing says safety like being surrounded 10-to-1 by pissed-off machete wielding Rastas with NOTHING to lose...

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:43 | 2245682 trav7777
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it doesn't matter if they have anything to lose or not

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:12 | 2245575 BigJim
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The power elite don't want a bunch of big-government types breathing down THEIR necks, obviously.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 22:19 | 2246239 NoClueSneaker
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2 l8 ...

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 16:46 | 2245502 YuropeanImbecille
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They finally understood that they need a lot of boats. I hope they attack on Wednesday so I have time to get some coke & popcorn and watch the massive "Shock & Awe 2.0" pm Wednesday morning CET.

I know war is not good, but these people have been doing covert operations (Jihad) here in the EUSSR for about 2 decades now, sadly we are pussies and can not go after themselves.

I think 2 million iraqis died in both gulf wars, I hope this escalates to a burning inferno and takes the whole region down. If the US war machine accepts foreign nationals to join in, I will leave my well paid job behind and join in to have a chance at killing these freaking bastards.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:10 | 2245568 HelluvaEngineer
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Holy shit.  You went full retard.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:38 | 2245667 whaleoil
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Well, part of his handle is "Imbecille"

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 18:02 | 2245738 knukles
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And just to ensure closure, the other half is European.
Jesus....

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 23:57 | 2246354 Ahmeexnal
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chuckles: i'm sure "they" are now hiring top comedians to come up with these trollsters' names.

 

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:19 | 2245605 goldfish1
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If the US war machine accepts foreign nationals to join in, I will leave my well paid job behind

Suure you will, brave ewok. Why are you talking? If you're looking for a shill job, the iq requirement is 90+.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 18:14 | 2245778 Conrad Murray
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That's no ordinary Ewok, that's Pedobear. Luckily for him, while a shill job requires a 90+ IQ, the dream job of Pedobears everywhere, TSA Agent, demands an IQ below 75. So, as much fun as it would be to see another degenerate die for the profit of the MIC, I guess we'll have to settle for chuckling at the sheep who allow their children to be enchancedly patted down by this drool-stained downy.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 16:47 | 2245507 Curtis LeMay
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Go Big E!

Jeezuz, she's HUGE...

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 16:51 | 2245516 bugs_
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and the fastest cvn according to some - she can move

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:52 | 2245711 Yardfarmer
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Holy shit.  You went full retard.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 19:44 | 2245963 ChrisFromMorningside
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You killed it bro. It was funny the first time.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 16:50 | 2245510 alien-IQ
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Final journey indeed.

To be rechristened the USS Sacrificial Lamb.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:21 | 2245613 NuYawkFrankie
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... or USS Gurgle Gurgle Glug Glug

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 16:50 | 2245511 americanspirit
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Hard to miss.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:08 | 2245563 Wakanda
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Easy to hit.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 16:51 | 2245519 wandstrasse
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weapons are there to create peace, wars are there to protect freedom, bankers are there to help the economy. Any more questions? No? Thank you for listening.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 18:06 | 2245748 MolotovCockhead
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And the congress is there to make sure that the president don't step out of line. The president is there to tell the truth! The judiciary is there to dish out justice......hahhaaa....erkk..ker....kerk...I am choking...

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 03:48 | 2246624 geekgrrl
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ROFL!!! I've got tears here. OMFG. That is so funny.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 23:27 | 2249517 geekgrrl
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Seriously, dude. That's the best laugh I've had in a year. Kudos and thanks!

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 16:53 | 2245521 Fish Gone Bad
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I am thinking there is going to be some screaming.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 16:53 | 2245523 AgShaman
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I do not endorse this POA.

P.S. I love the Chevy Volt

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 16:55 | 2245531 Jason T
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We neeed the oil.  It's either money or military and we have no money, so..  

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:30 | 2245636 TBT or not TBT
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Actually, the euro-peons need it worse. Most oil consumed in the US comes from the western hemisphere, by a long shot. The euro-weenies have welfare states, but no militaries to speak of. Japan kinda imports ALL of its oil. Similar deal there, with even worse demographics and economic prospects, even WITH the oil still arriving regularly.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:00 | 2245532 Elwood P Suggins
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Maybe we'll get lucky and the Iranians will sink it and save us the cost of putting it in mothballs.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:05 | 2245557 cristo
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i"m shure that's the plan

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 16:56 | 2245535 Amish Hacker
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Sarc is definitely OFF when I say, "Safe home" to all our troops. I only hope that whatever cause they are being sent to defend is worthy of their valor.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:11 | 2245570 kito
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i learned to play chess by following the moves of our foreign policy/military leaders....masterful execution....too bad our servicemen and women are the chess pieces.....its also too bad ron paul won't have a chance to throw away the board....

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:18 | 2245600 AN0NYM0US
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I heard a report on BBC earlier this morning talking about the solider that went into a bunch of Afgan civilian's homes and started firing - the knob went on and on about how much stress our troops are under and how this poor fellow obviously had some sort of a break down.  He went on to express how this might damage the image of our troops in the eyes of the folks they are liberating.  Other than the body count no mention of the people who were killed and whether they were men, women and/or children. 

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:24 | 2245618 goldfish1
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no mention of the people who were killed

People? They're not people. They're not even collateral damage. /s

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:36 | 2245657 DavidPierre
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U.S. soldier kills 16 Afghan civilians, Karzai says From Sara Sidner, CNN updated 12:14 PM EDT, Sun March 11, 2012

Kabul, Afghanistan (CNN) — An American soldier left his base in Afghanistan and went from house to house in two villages, killing 16 people in their homes, Afghan officials told CNN Sunday.

The dead include nine children and three women, plus five wounded.  “The murdering of innocent people intentionally by an American soldier is an act of terror that is unforgivable,” Karzai said.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 18:09 | 2245764 Totentänzerlied
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So when do the Afghans demand we hand over I'll-bomb-ya unconditionally, reject our offer, form an alliance with Canada, invade liberate us, then find I'll-bomb-ya hiding out in a luxuy villa in Mexico 10 years later?

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 18:11 | 2245770 MolotovCockhead
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Karzai is bullshiting!! To him the murder of civilians are collateral damage. He needs the US troops to guard his poppy field.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 22:22 | 2246245 NoClueSneaker
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Karzai said= cocksucker spat. Swallow , u Unocal bitch!!!!

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 18:53 | 2245840 Yardfarmer
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as if this doesn't happen all the time on a regular basis. they just want us to think that is some kid of aberration which it isn't. there are rules of engagement on paper. they generally don't exist in the field. what about all those wedding parties they've blown to smithereens. and the three a.m.raids on farmhouses and villages that killed scores of women and kids. no different. and what about Pat Tilman? how do you square that. you don't.take off the media colored blinders. WAR IS HELL. and what's it all for? UnoCal and Goldman Sachs. the first, second, third and last casualty of War is truth .the great shining lie. Ask Smedley Butler. Ask Pat Timan's mom. and then go weep for lost humanity.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 19:16 | 2245902 goldfish1
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US soldier kills 16 Afghans, deepening crisis

An American soldier opened fire on villagers near his base in southern Afghanistan Sunday and killed 16 civilians, according to President Hamid Karzai, who called it an "assassination" and furiously demanded an explanation from Washington. Nine children and three women were among the dead.

http://www.signsonsandiego.com/news/2012/mar/11/us-soldier-kills-16-afgh...

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 22:37 | 2246266 americanspirit
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Nine children. And he hauled them all into one place along with the women he killed and torched them. this is the unraveling of US aggression in Afghanistan. This is the end. there is nothing all those geniuses in DC can do about it. One soldier driven to madness changed the world.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 23:18 | 2246307 FeralSerf
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.

 

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 23:18 | 2246308 FeralSerf
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I can't help but wonder if this incident is related to the current Iran debacle.  It will, of course, get plenty of coverage in the Iranian media and stir up the Iranians that want war too.  Cui bono? Who would benefit from such a horrible act?

 

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 00:05 | 2246369 Ahmeexnal
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Yep, they could even add some more fireworks:

He torched the babies, then proceeded to eat them.

iRanian news agency

 

Seems like it's all orchestated so as to leave absolutely no other way out but full blown nuclear war.  Plywood tables to duck&cover under are about to sell like pancackes on eBay.

 

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 01:37 | 2246481 FeralSerf
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Just the story should be enough.  Real evidence is not necessary anymore.   A waste of money to investigate 9-11, I think was the Bush-Cheney excuse.

There's the Jews eat christian babies story that's been going around for a long while.  It affected german public opinion, I suppose.  The Jews deny it.  I know of no evidence either way.  I suspect it may not be true.

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 05:34 | 2246654 Moe Howard
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They do suck baby dick. Didn't a baby boy just die because the rabbi sucked the dick blood?

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:13 | 2245548 slewie the pi-rat
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i should get a copy of the "T0&E" soon...

fuking bilary won't pick-up my calls

again

about 30 years back i hired a guy who had just finished a hitch on the E

a few days later, he shows up with a complete set of blueprints for the ship

quite thick, and very wide

slewie is not a very tough boss...

we all spent a whole morning going over them with him

weed, coffee, and he showed us where he usta live eat, etc...

he told me i could have them, but i declined

...i was married to a treasonous woman...

Mon, 03/12/2012 - 00:07 | 2246371 Ahmeexnal
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a cable tv van just parked outside your house.

funny dat, no one on your street has cable.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:11 | 2245571 debtor of last ...
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A constant state of war. With some shooting now and then. Shooting with dollars, euro's and sometimes even with bullets. Or worse. Business as usual.

What shall i tell my 3 yr old daughter this time? Welcome to the Planet of the Apes? No, told her already when Greece defaulted for the seventh time.

The world is completely fucked up? Did that on the day Khadafi died. Any politicians here for a nice excuse?

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:16 | 2245592 Wakanda
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Just tell her you love her.  She'll figure out the rest.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:16 | 2245594 Normalcy Bias
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Well, there have been unconfirmed sightings of Dr. Zira at the White House...

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:34 | 2245656 TBT or not TBT
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That may have been the wookie, whose arrival to such heights is the logical end result of positive discrimination.

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:50 | 2245705 Normalcy Bias
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No comment. ; )

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 18:05 | 2245746 knukles
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You mean she's home from vacation!

Sun, 03/11/2012 - 17:12 | 2245573 toothpicker
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I hope they don't carry too much gold and silver. Wouldn't want a boating accident

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