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Amazon Slides After Missing Revenues Expectations, Guides Much Lower

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Amazon slides 10% after hours as it reports much weaker revenues of $17.43 billion on expectations of $18.26 billion. EPS are not really comparable but appear to beat EPS of $0.16 on Exp. of $0.38. This may not be apples to apples. More importantly, the company guides Q1 to Operating Loss of $200MM to Income of income of $100MM, on Wall Street Consensus of $268MM, and guides to Q1 revenue of just $120-$13.4 billion on Estimates of $13.4 billion: pretty wide range there... This is merely the latst time that the company has disappointed materially, yet Wall Street keeps giving it the benefit of the doubt, on hopes that the Kindle will finally become an iPad-like device. How much longer? Yet the take home message is that the US consumer, contrary to rumors otherwise, is actually not doing all that well.

The good news: operating margin doubles from Q3's 0.7%. The bad news: operating margin is 1.5%:

Amazon number of employees: up, up and away, at 56,200; this compares to 33,700 a year ago.

AMZN After hours:

Full release:, Inc. (NASDAQ:AMZN - News) today announced financial results for its fourth quarter ended December 31, 2011.

Operating cash flow increased 12% to $3.90 billion for the trailing twelve months, compared with $3.50 billion for the trailing twelve months ended December 31, 2010. Free cash flow decreased 17% to $2.09 billion for the trailing twelve months, compared with $2.52 billion for the trailing twelve months ended December 31, 2010.

Common shares outstanding plus shares underlying stock-based awards totaled 468 million on December 31, 2011, compared with 465 million a year ago.

Net sales increased 35% to $17.43 billion in the fourth quarter, compared with $12.95 billion in fourth quarter 2010. Excluding the $101 million favorable impact from year-over-year changes in foreign exchange rates throughout the quarter, net sales would have grown 34% compared with fourth quarter 2010.

Operating income was $260 million in the fourth quarter, compared with $474 million in fourth quarter 2010. The favorable impact from year-over-year changes in foreign exchange rates throughout the quarter on operating income was $5 million.

Net income decreased 58% to $177 million in the fourth quarter, or $0.38 per diluted share, compared with net income of $416 million, or $0.91 per diluted share, in fourth quarter 2010.

“We are grateful to the millions of customers who purchased the Kindle Fire and Kindle e-reader devices this holiday season, making Kindle our bestselling product across both the U.S. and Europe,” said Jeff Bezos, founder and CEO of “Our millions of third-party sellers had a tremendous holiday season with 65% unit growth and now represent 36% of total units sold.”

Full Year 2011

Net sales increased 41% to $48.08 billion, compared with $34.20 billion in 2010. Excluding the $1.09 billion favorable impact from year-over-year changes in foreign exchange rates throughout the year, net sales would have grown 37% compared with 2010.

Operating income decreased 39% to $862 million, compared with $1.41 billion in 2010. The favorable impact from year-over-year changes in foreign exchange rates throughout the year on operating income was $53 million.

Net income decreased 45% to $631 million in 2011, or $1.37 per diluted share, compared with net income of $1.15 billion, or $2.53 per diluted share, in 2010.


  • During the nine-week holiday period ending December 31, 2011, Kindle unit sales, including both the Kindle Fire and e-reader devices, increased 177% over the same period last year.
  • Kindle Fire is the #1 bestselling, most gifted, and most wished for product across the millions of items available on since its introduction 17 weeks ago.
  • Amazon launched Kindle Stores at and Kindle moved to the top of the bestseller list on launch day in both countries and held the top spot this holiday season. The new Kindle was also the bestselling product on, and
  • announced the Kindle Owners’ Lending Library, a benefit of Prime membership that offers over 80,000 books to borrow for free – including over 100 current and former New York Times bestsellers – as frequently as a book a month, with no due dates.
  • Kindle Direct Publishing (KDP) announced KDP Select, an annual fund of at least $6 million dedicated to independent authors and publishers who participate in the Kindle Owners’ Lending Library. In December alone, customers borrowed 295,000 KDP Select titles, and KDP Select has helped grow the total library selection of books by over 16X.
  • Amazon continued to expand its catalog of title offerings for Prime Instant Video, announcing licensing agreements with Twentieth Century Fox Television Distribution, which added the popular FOX and FX television shows Glee and Sons of Anarchy, and Disney-ABC Television, which added popular television shows including Lost and Grey’s Anatomy. These deals bring the total number of Prime Instant Videos to more than 13,000 movies and TV shows from partners such as CBS, Fox, NBCUniversal, Sony, Warner Bros., PBS, ABC-Disney and many more.
  • The number of videos purchased or rented from Amazon Instant Video and the number of Amazon Instant Video customers both more than doubled year-over-year in the fourth quarter. In addition, the number of Prime Instant Video streams increased nearly 300% in the fourth quarter compared to the third quarter.
  • Amazon Appstore for Android customers nearly tripled in the fourth quarter compared to the third quarter. In addition, customers downloaded more apps from the Amazon Appstore during the fourth quarter than they had during all previous quarters combined.
  • North America segment sales, representing the Company’s U.S. and Canadian sites, were $9.90 billion, up 37% from fourth quarter 2010.
  • International segment sales, representing the Company’s U.K., German, Japanese, French, Chinese, Italian and Spanish sites, were $7.53 billion, up 31% from fourth quarter 2010. Excluding the favorable impact from year-over-year changes in foreign exchange rates throughout the quarter, sales grew 29%.
  • Worldwide Media sales grew 15% to $6.01 billion. Excluding the favorable impact from year-over-year changes in foreign exchange rates throughout the quarter, sales grew 14%.
  • Worldwide Electronics and Other General Merchandise sales grew 48% to $10.91 billion. Excluding the favorable impact from year-over-year changes in foreign exchange rates throughout the quarter, sales grew 47%.
  • Amazon Web Services (AWS) announced the launch of its new South America (Sao Paulo) Region and U.S. West (Oregon) Region, bringing the total to eight geographic regions worldwide to which the company has deployed its global cloud computing services.
  • AWS announced the launch of Amazon DynamoDB, a fully managed NoSQL database service that provides extremely fast and predictable performance with seamless scalability. With a few clicks in the AWS Management Console, customers can launch a new Amazon DynamoDB database table, scale up or down their request capacity for the table without downtime or performance degradation, and gain visibility into resource utilization and performance metrics.
  • AWS announced that customers can now run their Microsoft Windows Server applications within the AWS Free Usage Tier – a program designed to help new AWS customers get started in the cloud. Developers and businesses with Windows Server applications can take advantage of 750 hours of Amazon Elastic Compute Cloud (Amazon EC2) Micro Instance usage per month, at no charge for a one-year period.

Financial Guidance

The following forward-looking statements reflect’s expectations as of January 31, 2012. Our results are inherently unpredictable and may be materially affected by many factors, such as fluctuations in foreign exchange rates, changes in global economic conditions and consumer spending, world events, the rate of growth of the Internet and online commerce and the various factors detailed below.

First Quarter 2012 Guidance

  • Net sales are expected to be between $12.0 billion and $13.4 billion, or to grow between 22% and 36% compared with first quarter 2011.
  • Operating income (loss) is expected to be between $(200) million and $100 million, or between 162% decline and 69% decline compared with first quarter 2011.
  • This guidance includes approximately $200 million for stock-based compensation and amortization of intangible assets, and it assumes, among other things, that no additional business acquisitions or investments are concluded and that there are no further revisions to stock-based compensation estimates.

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Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:07 | 2114179 The trend is yo...
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Bullish...this should be good for a pop tomorrow

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:16 | 2114226 TheGameIsRigged
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I agree...BUY BUY BUY!!!  


Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:23 | 2114253 I Am Not a Copp...
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Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:38 | 2114316 Alex Kintner
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The word's out. Your union buddies are talking. Get me in at a 45 degree angle and I mean all the way in! Slash and burn, buy everything you can get up to 22. Then call me. When I get the sonofabitch who leaked this I'm gonna kill him! I'm gonna tear his eyeballs out, I'm gonna suck his skull!!
Tue, 01/31/2012 - 18:26 | 2114510 Vampyroteuthis ...
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Yes Mr Gecko!

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:07 | 2114182 prains
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How much longer?


til the facebook ipo

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:11 | 2114204 Zero Govt
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Facebook IPO ?

That'll be a fab top marker

everyone ready to short i hope... 'Bombs Away'

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:20 | 2114240 _ConanTheLibert...
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Facebook reminds me very much of the tech bubble. It's supposed to be worth $100 billion? I don't think so. I consider social media a hype for the sheeple.

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:26 | 2114272 HD
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What? A glorified message board isn't worth 100 billion?

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 18:35 | 2114533 The trend is yo...
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It's worth more. Let me explain.  All those teens and recent college grads that are the primary users on a day to day basis tell the whole world when the wkae up with a hangover (advertisers like Bayer will market aspirin and excederin to them), then they tell the world about the massive dump they took or are about to take (Kimberly clark will advertise to them for totiet tissue), later in the day they will tell us how hungry they are (MCD & CMG),  after a mid day nap we get a little reality on hw they need to find a job ( and finally they give up and go drinking again (Inbev, coors, whoever)....ADVERTISING BABY!  NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF THE SCHWARTZ!

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:27 | 2114281 qussl3
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When the world is one big dumbfuckistan dont underestimate human stupidity.

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:33 | 2114302 SheepDog-One
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But what about FARMVILLE! Imagine the bumper crops we'll get to stave off inflation!

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:45 | 2114336 LeBalance
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Fade that book.

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 18:14 | 2114470 Ag1761
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But it's our only hope for growth, it must be worth $100B.

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 20:27 | 2114866 Taint Boil
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"If you're not paying for something, you're not the customer; you're the product being sold".

Credit to->blue_beetle

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:16 | 2114227 BLOTTO
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They are conditioning the herd sheep this week for the facebook IPO with the story of Zuckerbergs friend who made the $400,000,000 mistake by 'walking away from it.'

Sheep will think: Geeez, i dont want to make that same mistake and will buy up the stock...


Tue, 01/31/2012 - 21:31 | 2115077 Clueless Economist
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is Zuckerman Jewish?

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:20 | 2114183 Cult_of_Reason
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The stock is down by only 9% in AH


The stock is "ridiculously cheap" with a negative P/E

Strong Buy on any pullback!


Tue, 01/31/2012 - 20:19 | 2114847 Taint Boil
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Bought a Kindle and I downloaded one book for $10, then I went to Pirate Bay and downloaded torrent for a lifetime (500 +/-) of books for free (and illegal of course). I will probably never buy a book again – thanks Kindle


Right or wrong …..  Well you decide. You would be crazy to pay for anything that you can download off the net. But I also have downloaded movies and never made it to the end because it was so bad and if I would have paid for it I would have been pissed.


If you are in the business of selling books, music or movies … good luck.

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:09 | 2114191 LongSoupLine
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This MUST mean people are more wealthy and now leaving cyberspace to go back to brick and mortar...bullish!!

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:11 | 2114203 CvlDobd
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Wed, 02/01/2012 - 08:21 | 2115823 flattrader
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I shopped Amazon for a particular type of chromatic tuner.  The prices were all over the place.  Walked my laptop into the local music store which carried what I wanted.  The owner and I negotiated a price which was in the middle of the Amazon listed prices and about $10 bucks lower than what the store was selling it for.  I told him I preferred to buy local.  He was happy I bothered.

Thannks Amazon for getting me a discount.  Add that to your negative EPS.

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:09 | 2114194 CvlDobd
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I can't put into words how stupid all this shit is. Who fucking cares? This shit is so fake.


Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:09 | 2114195 Cdad
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Say goodbye to the XRT tomorrow.  That should set a nice crap know, before it is revealed that Average Joe's are getting fired right and left again, and the ISM ISn't.  

Hope all the guys who window dressed today have the skills to move into the curtain business...

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:58 | 2114387 Cdad
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My confused on crap ETFs...that would be the RTH that has almost 7% of its holdings in AMZN.  As well, the XLY holds a buttload of AMZN, too.

Should be a great day in consumer descretionary bubble land tomorrow.

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 21:11 | 2115012 WonderDawg
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Please let XRT tank tomorrow. I've got March puts that are bleeding and need some help. Hopefully this will bring a needed dose of reality.

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 18:54 | 2114586 Randall Cabot
Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:14 | 2114202 Dr. Engali
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Wall street analysis:

This news is clearly priced in and we will see accelerated growth in the second half. We recommend buying on any pull back. Bullish full steam ahead.

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:24 | 2114259 battle axe
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Wait a minute, is that an Iceberg ahead? 

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 18:08 | 2114431 TuesdayBen
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If Zucker is Deutsche for ice.

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:12 | 2114207 Robot Traders Mom
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I guess Amerikans have enough disposable income to buy an ipad over a kindle...


Makes sense.

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:24 | 2114261 LongSoupLine
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"Duh!  Of course they're buying iPads...people have to eat afterall." - Dudley

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:13 | 2114210 Alex Kintner
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Well then, better get your 'Go Girl' before Amazon goes belly up.

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:13 | 2114213 sheeple2012
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never fear, momo tarder and his brethren will have this back to 200 by end of Feb.

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:14 | 2114215 SloMoe
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Seems to me that Amazon has missed the last, what, six quarters or so?


And the pig still goes up...

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:25 | 2114265 SloMoe
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Hopefully, one of the "analysts" on the earnings call will ask how many of those wonderful Kindle Fires sold boomeranged their way back to Mr. Bozos...

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:15 | 2114225 AC_Doctor
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This company is operating at pencil dick margins.  Downgrades coming in for AMZN tomorrow?

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:18 | 2114237 CvlDobd
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Which is bullish as it shows the resilience of American companies to remain profitable through good and bad times. Imagine when bond money comes back into stocks and people are really rich. Margins will get fat again! AMZN to $300!

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:27 | 2114280 adr
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Profit no longer matters, only revenue. Facebook could make a profit of $.15 but as long as revenue runs in the couple hundred billion range the stock will be close to $500 a share in no time. If the fraudorporation Priceline can be $550 a share, Facebook could be $1500 based on the only fundamental that matters, TOTAL PAPER BULLSHIT.

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:17 | 2114230 Panafrican Funk...
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I guess I'm just continuously bothered by the apeshit P/E this thing trades at.  I know we trade in a market where fundamentals don't matter, but come the fuck on.  

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 18:07 | 2114430 Lucius Corneliu...
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At least AMZN has solid sales and sales growth.  Plus a lot of the free cash flow is invested back into the business.  They are more interested in expanding market share than reporting a bottom line profit, IMHO.

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 18:22 | 2114495 Rainman
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142 times earnings...what could go wrong ?

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 18:13 | 2114236 Contra_Man
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  • Worldwide Electronics and Other General Merchandise sales grew 48% to $10.91 billion. Excluding the favorable impact from year-over-year changes in foreign exchange rates throughout the quarter, sales grew 47%.

By half? Wow! Who else been doin' $10.91 Bills worth of amazing international machine buying? So add another $11B into the faux international and dark f/x, multi-national "Duties Paid" - but little to no corporate taxes paid, eps and share buy-back stock pumping Bankster accounts in the Cayman. 

Another day, another 0.38 cents for the Shareholders this quarter.  Priceless Earnings (P/E) multiple indeed!


Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:18 | 2114239 slaughterer
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Watch how they spin this in the CC>  

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:22 | 2114249 adr
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Who would have thought selling millions of product at a loss would be bad for earnings? Amazon is the Walmart of e-commerce. Trying to put everyone else out of business so they can raise prices later, then profit. Amazon is one of the worst run corporations out there. Ever try to deal with them? You almost want to blow your brains out. Just like navigating their terrible site. $17 billion in revenue and they lose millions!!! Imagine how many jobs could have been saved if that $17 billion was spent at brick and mortar stores.

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 18:12 | 2114455 bdc63
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I love shopping at Amazon.  I've never had any issues with them.  75% of my Christmas shopping was done through Amazon this year.

What I HATE is the mall.

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 18:57 | 2114592 NotApplicable
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I actually had to call customer support because the web interface failed to let me fix payment info on all parts of an order that was split into three orders (it only let me fix one part). Guess what? I got a native English speaker who not only understood the problem as I described it, they were able to fix it within two minutes.

This happened a week before Christmas, their busiest time, yet I was only on the phone for no more than five minutes. Honestly, it's the best customer service I've had in years. I was shocked.

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:23 | 2114251 Dapper Dan
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Stocks headed for best January in 21st century

Jan 31 3:05pm:

U.S. stocks traded in a narrow range Tuesday, after worse-than-expected U.S. housing and manufacturing data tempered the modest enthusiasm over Europe's progress on a new fiscal pact. More

Sounds so good when the MSM phrases things this way!

Best January in the 21st century!   oh for the love of God!

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:26 | 2114273 Irish66
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Have a cocktail it reads better

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:27 | 2114277 monopoly
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OK, lets do the math. Earnings of .38 cents. Negative first quarter, lets give them a growth multiple of 25. Full year earnings of a $1.50 with growth allowed. I get a stock price of.......$37.50!! Might be a bit of downside here. :)

Any questions?

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:30 | 2114291 qussl3
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So many better options than to be a short in this monkey algo market.

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:48 | 2114351 sheeple2012
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Cramer said it's ok to have a PEG of 2X, because... well, just because... so I get $75

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:30 | 2114293 adr
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Ha, accurate valuation!!! The stock market hasn't used that in like 50 years.

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:36 | 2114296 Contra_Man
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Any answers?

...came up with a similar $36 target

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:41 | 2114310 PicassoInActions
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so far i can see that this forum bashes every single company we have... are there any company that ZHers prefer( besides gold papers?)


Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:41 | 2114325 Tyler Durden
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The forum would probably agree that every asset is attractive at the right price but not at bloated, unjustified valuations.

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:48 | 2114346 PicassoInActions
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i hear you, tough we still have to be reasonable from the situation we are , not from illusionally what if ... what if there is no FED reserve, no obama, no manipulation..... 

While i totaly agreey in principals we have reality and with current criminals it won't change anytime soon. So i guess we have to deal with that , or work around.

Wed, 02/01/2012 - 01:06 | 2115555 walküre
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what if.. the entire market is a whole bunch of Enrons, Worldcoms, Bear Stearns and Lehmans?

accounting standards? valuations? don't matter until you get caught.

Wed, 02/01/2012 - 02:46 | 2115657 prains
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don't forget MF Global

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:49 | 2114352 CvlDobd
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Not to be a complete suck up but, exactly.

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 19:02 | 2114610 MachoMan
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"there aren't bad investments, just bad prices"

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:48 | 2114350 earleflorida
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yeah,... equities that make money the old-fashion-way, they earn it with their brains - not by spinning a web of deceit, masked by an ex-anti repellent!

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:55 | 2114369 PicassoInActions
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did not know i can put a vote to my self... cool, at least i will have one positive vs rednecks.

Can we see who leaves which votes , so we can send a russian cleaning team?

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:59 | 2114399 Zenseless
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When I saw the writing on the wall I bought EZCorp (pawn shop operator, symbol EZPW) in mid-2009.  Though it's fallen a bit recently on MSM hopium for an improving economy, I'm pretty happy thus far.  At 10X trailing EPS, I'd much rather own this than a dog like AMZN.

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 18:09 | 2114443 PicassoInActions
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i am sure if you bought amazon in 2009 or for that matter any company, you would be ok now.

I don't play stocks, so dunno much about them ( mostly forex and options) but we do need to support some american companies. Soon we will have only dollar stores.

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 19:03 | 2114613 I am a Man I am...
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Broken record here:  Apple kicks ass and is cheap, Amazon is way fucking over priced.  You are correct that many people on this board only appreciate one asset, and that's gold.  But there are several on here that believe there are many ways to make money that is still considered investing, and it's not betting which way the euro, the 10 year treasury, the USD, or the yen is going to trade next fucking week (goldman sachs bullshit).

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 19:37 | 2114736 monopoly
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Whoa there Picasso. Wrong. There are many good companies out there. I like Amazon. I buy from them, get great service and good customer support.  There is a great company that makes....Burritos. NFLX does a good job and probably not to far off at 90 or so. But we did bash it at 280. Understand we think the valuations are put together during the Little Teacup ride at Disney Land. You bet we knock these companies.

Give us a fair price and we will buy them. Don't piss on us because we tell it like it is. Please go to MSM for the "real truth" if you do not like what you hear at this site. Or, stay with us, evaluate posts, make your own decisions and....learn.

Have a great night.

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:41 | 2114326 Babushka
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Sorry completely of topic, but I am listening to BBC everyday as a background noise and there almost no peep about National Strike in Belgium. All politician where landing on Air Force strip and picked up by military helicopters in order to attend to Euro Summit...


(Reuters) - Belgium's first general strike in almost two decades brought parts of the country to a halt on Monday in an anti-austerity protest aimed at the new government and at EU leaders meeting in Brussels.


The rail network closed, buses and trams sat in depots, schools and shops shut and production stopped at the factories of many companies including carmakers Audi (VOWG_p.DE) and Volvo, Coca Cola (KO.N) and imaging group Agfa-Gevaert (AGFB.BR).

Charleroi Airport, a hub for Ryanair (RYA.I) and other low-cost carriers, was forced to cancel all flights due to union plans to block the access road.

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 21:20 | 2115037 WonderDawg
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Interesting, and not at all surprising that the MSM is ignoring it; they don't want to give the folks here in the US any ideas. They're feeling pretty good having punked OWS.

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 23:36 | 2115431 Treason Season
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FWIW Russia Today covered it though still appreciate the heads up Babushka

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:46 | 2114338 SmoothCoolSmoke
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Obviously, AMZN needs some of the TBTF banks accountants.   And hey!  How about that American consumer?!?!!?  Black Friday Baby.

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:52 | 2114360 MrBinkeyWhat
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WAIT, wait. Amazon is pretty much the last and only place I still actually shop (for things not recommended on Survivalblog). Even then I comparison shop.  Is this the END of capitalism as we THOUGHT we knew it?

I really want to know.

/no sarc

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:56 | 2114375 sheeple2012
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It's a good company, just not a $90 Billion company...

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:58 | 2114390 PicassoInActions
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tomorrow you will have gaybook ( facebook) with 100B evalution. Everything is relative.

90 B company comparring to FED printing is still an ok.

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 18:36 | 2114538 Vampyroteuthis ...
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Facebook is another good idea that will be trashed by Wall Street to make billions from the sheeple. Wall Street is on the rampage to destroy everything in its sight.

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 19:53 | 2114776 GNWT
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It's a good company, just not a $90 Billion company...


At 10 times earnings, rather than 100 that it is priced at, a "good" company, let's calculate, hmmm..


price of 17/share, FMV



Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:57 | 2114380 PicassoInActions
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i am sure, all those cry babies from this forum shop at amazon also.

We all do. Even gun ammunitions are cheaper on amazon than at their local pawn shops.

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 19:39 | 2114744 BurningFuld
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Dunno. Is this bad price for 500 AK rounds?

We tend to overpay for everything in Canada...or Amazon won't ship to Canada for this and that blah blah...but this is local and free shipping!


Tue, 01/31/2012 - 17:54 | 2114365 yogibear
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Rally Time!! Amazon needs to tailor more to Wall Street and Washington. That's where the money is. Main Street is going broke.

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 18:05 | 2114423 PicassoInActions
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Hey guys, any1 good with math?

CNBC has a slide show to the holders of US debt


i calculate based on what they present around 14 trillion, who got the rest?

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 18:20 | 2114479 devo
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I shorted this stock three days ago. It's just common sense. A astronimical P/E in this environment, massive corporate spending, a lame ipad clone, and low profit margins on each sale. It's disaster. This is a $50 stock wrapped in a $175 pipe dream.

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 18:21 | 2114490 bill1102inf
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All those poor 401Ks

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 19:17 | 2114663 rosebud
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new money or taken out of other stocks or whatever to buy this at the bargain it will be? anyone noticed how zynga shot up 2 dollars in the the last 3 weeks, Morgan Stanley manipulation?  

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 19:50 | 2114769 GNWT
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Anyone ever calculate Amazon's Gross Profit if they had to pay CA sales taxes?


Answer is a negative, and how long do you think this scam of a business will be around when the states need money from anyone and everywhere?


Their business model has always been to sell at a loss and make it up on volume!

Bezos and Madoff, birds of a feather.



Tue, 01/31/2012 - 21:38 | 2115101 devo
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If they sell everything at a loss no amount of volume will result in profit. I'd say their model is low margin/high volume. It's really vulnerable, which is why the p/e is unjustified. I would not want to own that stock at a price over $50.

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 20:52 | 2114945 oogs66
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That is only direct employees - what about the couriers :)

Wed, 02/01/2012 - 04:48 | 2115735 backwardation
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Goldman/FED can not let Facebook drop.  Cannot afford it to be new World Online IPO

Too early to let it go....even Ben wud buy facebook to keep the ponzi scheme up!!

That will also give boost to companies like Amazon for a while. Wud not short it in the first months as the elite needs it up!

Wed, 02/01/2012 - 05:36 | 2115746 BlackholeDivestment
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...chart looks like an Iranian mastectomy. Lol

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