American Anger: 58% Say Are "Furious About America's Politics" Compared To 49% In January, 37% Support #OWS

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The Arab Spring, which yesterday claimed its first brutal televized murder, confirming that the new regime is unfortunately in no way more civilized or humane than the old one, is slowly gaining ever more traction, and those in power who think they are immune from the basest of human emotions like Gadaffi thought, even in so-called civilized countries, may be surprised to discover otherwise. According to a new AP-GfK poll, 37% of respondents back "Occupy Wall Street" and its various offshoot variants. As can be expected, "A majority of those protest supporters are Democrats, but the anger about politics in general is much more widespread, the poll indicates." What is more disturbing is that nearly two thirds of respondents are openly expressing anger with everything that is wrong in America, even if they can't quite place their affiliation with either the Tea-Party of the #OWS movement. "58 percent say they are furious about America's politics. The number of angry people is growing as deep reservoirs of resentment grip the country." The number was 49% in January - in other words it is rising with meteoric speed. And with the topic of Marxism lately quite prevalent if for purely intellectual masturbation purposes, perhaps the practical implications of Marxist "discontent" should also be considered, and the defining question becomes what will be the tipping point beyond which silent protest and peaceful occupation morphs into something far worse.

As for the actual broad sentiment, we couldn't agree more with the following statement:

"They've got reasons to be upset, they've got reasons to protest, but they're protesting against the wrong people," Jan Jarrell, 54, a retired school custodian from Leesville, S.C., says of the New York demonstrators. "They need to go to Washington, to Congress and the White House. They're the ones coming up with all the rules."

The following will come as no surprise to those who have been following the two core discontentment movements over the past years:

While the troubled economy is at the root of anger at both government and business leaders, there's a key difference. Tea party activists generally argue that government is the problem, and they advocate for free markets. The Wall Street protesters generally say that government can provide some solutions and the free market has run amok.


Of the Americans who support the Wall Street protests, 64 percent in the poll are Democrats, while 22 percent are independents and just 14 percent are Republicans. The protest backers are more likely to approve of President Barack Obama and more likely to disapprove of Congress than are people who don't support the demonstrations.


More generally, many more Americans - 58 percent - say they are furious about the country's politics than did in January, when 49 percent said they felt that way. What's more, nearly nine in 10 say they are frustrated with politics and nearly the same say they are disappointed, findings that suggest people are deeply resentful of the political bickering over such basic government responsibilities as passing a federal budget and raising the nation's debt limit.

And as Ron Paul loosely paraphrased, at the last GOP debate, another democrat before him, "it's the economy, stupid"


The protesters cite the economic crisis as a key reason for their unhappiness. The unemployment rate hovers around 9 percent nationally. Many homeowners owe more than their homes are worth. Foreclosures are rampant. And many young people - the key demographic of the protesters - can't find jobs or live on their own.

"They all have college educations, and some have advanced degrees, and they're unemployed?" says Alice Dunlap, 63, a retired speech language pathologist from Alexandria, Va. She supports the protests because, she says, anger lingers at those who profited while the nation's economy tanked.


"We all got ripped off by Wall Street, and we continue to be ripped off by Wall Street," she says. "You can look at my portfolio, if you like."


The poll found that most protest supporters do not blame Obama for the economic crisis. Sixty-eight percent say former President George W. Bush deserves "almost all" or "a lot but not all" of the blame. Just 15 percent say Obama deserves that much blame. Nearly six in 10 protest supporters blame Republicans in Congress for the nation's economic problems, and 21 percent blame congressional Democrats.


Six in 10 protest supporters trust Democrats more than Republicans to create jobs.


Most people who support the protests - like most people who don't - actually report good financial situations in their own households.

So who is the "minority" that has been targeted by the 99%? Or is it really 99.999% as BusinessWeek analyzes some of the finer nuances in what is now a full blow "poor vs rich" class war.

A better way of thinking about the Occupy Wall Street Movement, though, is to look at what happens at the very top, in the rareified upper reaches of hedge fund land. In his investigation of investment bank bonus payments for 2008, New York attorney general (and now governor) Andrew Cuomo, found that 774 employees of the top 5 investment banks took home close to $4.2 billionin bonuses. That report prompted extensive bonus rage. But here’s a more stunning number to compare it with: for the same year, the top 25 hedge fund managers reaped $10.6 billion in gains, according to Insitutional Investor’s AR Magazine. Let’s set those numbers down again:

  • 774 investment bankers: $4.2 billion
  • 25 top hedge fund managers: $11.6 billion

There’s more: in 2009, the top 25 hedge fund managers made $25.3 billion, and in 2010 it was $22 billion.


Measured as a proportion of the people in the top 1%, financial types might not be the biggest part. Move up to the very top, and the the share of those finance is absolutely huge. Maybe “We Are The 99.999%” is a more accurate sign, but Wall Street is the right spot for the protests. We may not be sure of just who makes up the top 1%, but who’s at the pinnacle is clear.


Still, exactly which part of the financial world is pulling in the most money is something that’s worth thinking about closely. The focus of popular anger, and of proposals for reform, have been mainly banks and bankers. But if the most outsized compensation is not, ultimately, in the big investment banks but at the hedge funds, it’s not clear that reforming the bank reform will markedly change this distribution—or resolve the central complaint of the protests.

All very good observations... and all quite moot. When the tipping point is reached, we doubt the unleashed codex of vigilante mob justice will care much to look at whether occupant of XXX Crown Lane in Greenwich put down $999,999.00 on their 1040 or added a few extra zeroes.

Just ask the Bolsheviks... Or Gaddafi.

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anony's picture

Boy ain't that sumthin"?   They're furious.  But not enough to throw out their own members in the Senate, and the House. are they?

Much Ado about nuthin', Sound and Fury signifying nuthin'.

The voters are more and more responsible for the past and ongoing crises the longer and longer they keep the same men and women in power.

They know nothing!


john39's picture

well maybe they are pissed because they have begun to realize that throwing out the current bums does no good as the next set of bums immediately picks up where the last set left off....  banker whores.

anony's picture

Don't expect miracles. If they don't throw out the old incumbents, the newbies don't stand a chance.

Schumer, Frank, (Dodd got it in the neck finally), Kennedy, Boxer, Waxman, MCconnell, Hatch, Byrd, and all the others who spent 20-40 years did all the damage, and the ones remaining will still win reelection.

It won't be accomplished in one cycle,  ESPECIALLY if the Ya-hoos keep those men and women in office.

They must be gotten rid of then the newbies can change the paradigm.

Seer's picture

Gee, nothing like loading it up with Dems.  Your party hat is showing!

All you people who vote for ANY clown (which would be anyone runnnig) ARE THE PROBLEM.  You all just encourage this fucking behavior.

buyingsterling's picture

You're not going to vote for Ron Paul if you have the chance?

yabyum's picture

You play by the rules, work hard, do everthing thr right way, and you get sodomized by the powerful 1%. Yes, I would say we are pissed.

anony's picture

Like they care if you are pissed.  The only thing that will make them change is when they FEAR you.  THAT's what you have to do to make them care.

Got any stragedy to do that?

coded language's picture

Yup. Stop letting them scare you. Fear freezes the brain and survival instincts take over. Logic and rational thinking are thrown out the window.

Return to your own source of strength and personal power and start thinking for yourself (I know many already do on this site). A place to start could be removing anger and resentment from the past, healing old wounds.

Get away from the programming used through mainstream media, movies , video  games, etc.

Start interacting and being involved with other people in a respectful and meaningful way.

Seer's picture

Yup.  They won't know what to do when we no longer build all their shit and grow their food for them.  It's like a big fucking strike.  We should just all walk away from the system.  What are they going to do?  They have no concept of how to react in such instances.  If they try to force us then their hand is played and they open themselves up to annihilation.

Careful, however, because 2/3 of the world's population lives on $3/day or less.  We TOO are, by comparison, The Rich: won't behoove anyone to flaunt any wealth.

iDealMeat's picture

Follow them home..  Then mail them a picture of their house..


expect us.

yabyum's picture

What department of the government are you from?? I Have played my life in the system, by the law, why do you want to egg us on? Who are you?

krispkritter's picture

Can you buy KY with an EBT card?

mynhair's picture


But you can't buy CONgress.  They have standards.

UP Forester's picture

Even if all the EBT cards say JPMorgan on the back?

JLee2027's picture

The reactions against Washington will coalesce as the economy futher erodes.

mayhem_korner's picture

Yes, but Washington is getting its defenses up...

NOTW777's picture

Do not be deceived, God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. Galatians 6:7

Paul Bogdanich's picture

"A man reaps what he sows."

If only that were true in a single lifetime.  I notice Reagan passed in peace and with respect as will Kissinger, Greenspan and other criminals too numerous to mention.

CompassionateFascist's picture

You ignorant F^^K: Reagan freed hundreds of millions of people from neo-slavery: Communist corporate states using Berlin Walls, Iron Curtains and Gulags. Yeah, I know, you're too young to remember and a product of the current Ministry of Dumbing Out and Demoralization, aka the Dept. of Education. The 2 Jews? Even a broken clock is right twice a day.  

Seer's picture

Oh, yeah, right, Reagan single-handedly defeated the Soviet Empire!

Your dumb-ass commie-haters' story is so fraught with holes that you could drive the 1st Marine Division through it.

If the Soviet System was so crappy, as people suggest (and I TOTALLY agree), then how the fuck could it have taken over the world?  Bad systems do NOT work, and therefore they cannot survive!

We were all played by the MIC.  It was about controlling the US population more than "defeating communism."

The Soviet Union collapsed due to its own incompetency (as a system): yes, the US helped it over-spend its way to its death, but this was inevitable, and given the debt legacy (not to mention MIC) that the US was saddled with, I'd hardly claim that the US "won" this "war:" sorry, the books aren't closed yet (still pumping money into several former Soviet satellite countries to protect nukes).   This will be the same fate of the US, just as it has and always will be for EVERY empire.

Riddle me this: How come the CIA didn't even see the fall of the Soviet Union?  And yet here you are identifying the actions of a senile, abuser of the US Constitution, Edward Bernays blow-up doll of a washed up Hollywood actor as being THE reason?

Lech Walesa did more to shake up the Soviet grip than Reagan could ever have dreamed (assuming he really was serious about this rather than just helping POWER build up).

Your tale is an insult to intelligence and logic.

midtowng's picture

+1 for your ability to use basic logic. Something Reagan-worshippers lack for some reason

Rick64's picture

 Mr. Gorbachev tear down this wall. LOL 

dolly madison's picture

And why did Ronnie want an end to communism?  Was it for the people or for the banks who told him what to do?

buzzsaw99's picture

I prefer James 5:1


Come now, you rich, weep and howl for the miseries that are coming upon you...

mynhair's picture

If the EPA allows it.  God fergot that part.

gbresnahan's picture

IMHO the OWS protests are too fragmented.  Mainstream media ignores them, so it's like little circle jerks in every major city that largely go ignored.  Too bad we can't round up all the people from each city and send them to DC or NY.

Seer's picture

Come on, people!  The MSM NEVER sides with those challenging authority to which it is beholden!  To expect otherwise is to miss history's lessons.

Numbers don't count.  Further, revolutions are in the mind.  Once you see them materialize in the flesh it's just a formality.

The System's dead.  The "revolution" has ALREADY happened.

We are, in effect, marking this event for our own edification.  It's the tree falling in the woods thing: doesn't matter if anyone heard it, it STILL fell!

dolly madison's picture

IMHO the OWS protests are too fragmented.  Mainstream media ignores them, so it's like little circle jerks in every major city that largely go ignored.  Too bad we can't round up all the people from each city and send them to DC or NY.

And yet the number of people who support them keeps going up.

merchantratereview's picture

We're angry that we are in all these FAKE wars!



krispkritter's picture

The people dying are not FAKE, the people fighting them are not FAKE, the people who got us into them and the reasons they gave ARE FAKE...

mynhair's picture

"Fake wars"?  Tell that to the families of the dead soldiers.

Rainman's picture

The Bernank sock puppet Yellen is tipping off the QE 3, excuse.

Occupy the Fed !

ArkansasAngie's picture

dismantel it and put up a parking lot.

semperfi's picture

Easy Solution: Constitution verbatim

UP Forester's picture

Yeah, funny that when the Ballot Box is rigged, the Jury Box is filled with picked members, there is only one Box left.

And they contain Cu/Ni, Pb, Cu, fulminate of mercury and cordite.


How much more uptick in percentage points before the boiling point is reached?

semperfi's picture

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
- Thomas Jefferson

"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."  -Thomas Jefferson

Paul Bogdanich's picture

"what will be the tipping point beyond which silent protest and peaceful occupation morphs into something far worse."

This is unrealistic in this country unless the state steps up police action.  Baring that it will be settled reasonably civilly here.  I would not bet on the prospects in Greece, Spain or Italy though.  They have a history of radical change and they don't fear vast civil disturbance the way we do.     


UP Forester's picture

Maybe he meant Wii, or perhaps oui?

Paul Bogdanich's picture

You should have lived throgh the period 1966 through 1971 in America or at least have had the courtesy to have read about it.  Things only got really nasty in response to direct murder on the part of the police departments (particularlly the Chicago police) and the national guard in various states, except in the South where the violence was against the Feds enforcing the newly passed anti-discrimination laws.  By most standards though we (the American public) are pretty tame.  Nevertheless things did change and the violence was relatively minimal compared to the history of France, Italy, Spain and so on.   

falak pema's picture

until he really lost it all...WG, WH, VN and Bretton Woods. 

11b40's picture

and America lost....

mayhem_korner's picture

"what will be the tipping point beyond which silent protest and peaceful occupation morphs into something far worse."


Silent protests and peaceful occupations are as mythical as unfettered capitalism.  Protesters don't intend to be peaceful...

anony's picture

She's shooting for a heart attack.  That weight, blood pressure, and cholesterol level must be in the "Epic Fail", zone.

But yes, she isn't very attractive. Spiritually or physically.

She's got to be a real goddess to the Rosie O'donnell, and Roseanne Barr butch lesbians though.

Mentaliusanything's picture

In that vidio you see whats wrong, so very wrong with America.

Hillary this is your resposibility Baby - rules written for the position you now hold ...

 From the moment you are captured you have certain rights. Even before you are taken to a prisoner-of-war camp, these rights are in effect.

You must be humanely treated at all times.

Reprisals against you are not permitted. You cannot be punished for what somebody else has done.

You must be protected against insult or acts of violence by enemy military or civilians.

If you are wounded or sick, you are entitled to the same medical care as a member of the enemy's Army.

The enemy must clothe, feed, and shelter you.

You are a prisoner of war, not a criminal.

Shall I hold my breath that a charge for the War crime that was committed will ever be pushed by your bloated carcass-------- I would not waste my breath