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And In The Category For Biggest Conspiracy Theory We Have....
Two and a half years after consistently and methodically exposing one conspiracy after another (and by the way, once it is proven to be a fact, it is no longer a conspiracy), we were stunned to find that the biggest conspiracy theory is none other than... Zero Hedge. "Zero Hedge, for example, is one that lots of hedge funds look at, lots of money managers look at, and the guy that runs it has their ear. Now I'm not saying that he is not doing his own proprietary work, but, people like to plant stories in there. [cue ominous silence]." TA DUN DUN.
Gee - one does learn something new every day.
And now, back to planting malicious rumors and vile, incorrect stories of ponzi schemes, broken markets, deranged vacuum tubes, plundered tungsten bars, BLS data manipulation, collapsing Nielsen ratings, hyperinflationary obsessive-compulsive printing habits, global central planner intervention and what not.
Also, to anyone who still doesn't get it, please send your dodecatuple secret "plant" stories to plant@zerohedge[.]com along with your payment made in physical gold Zimbabwean dollars, to be delivered to our paper street headquarters. We certainly would prefer it if the drop man is Bank of America's James Mahoney.
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Don'cha love how they're always on the right side of the trade? Make a call today and change your mind tomorrow. Magic! To bad everyone who listened gets ass fucked, but hey, hey be smart traderz
Really can't stand watching them, surprised I caught today's comments. They use TA, and mix short term, long term investment strategies and throw in some half cocked fundamentals. It's pure horseshit.
+1
It's merely a massive disconnect -- they fundamentally don't understand what ZH is *saying*. They have no frame of reference to analytic thought, which is independent from rumors-in-the-pit. They don't understand the nature of ponzi. They can't fathom an end-of-the-line with regards to "traditional" speculation, and similarly don't understand that their "investing" is, itself, mere speculation.
All interviews end with, "So, Super-Guest-Guy, what should I buy?" OMG. If it doesn't fit on a bumper sticker, it doesn't fit in their brain.
"...their "investing" is, itself, mere speculation..."
Well put. Investing requires a long time horizon.....these guys all have the attention span of a ferret on speed.
Agree with you, I might would add that the reason for this lack of understanding is not because of intellect, DNA, or anything else, except that it is the chosen thing to do, usually by default.
+1, Very good point.
On the "generous" side, they choose to not think the unthinkable. How very human, it is difficult to fault them for that. On the "less-generous" side, they are paid to present a predetermined message. I'm sure both elements are in-play.
Not to worry. Their "frame-of-reference" will be corrected forthwith.
Dont' watch Fast Money ever since they fired Dylan Ratiganfor telling the truth on air. Whitehouse probably threatened government subsidy to MSNBC and press rights to whitehouse briefings for saying what everyone already feels.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIcqb9hHQ3E
Ironic that one of their own (Dylan Ratigan) defected and is now spreading the truth while they support the status quo spinning.
I was not aware that they canned Dylan. Just goes to show you. In the end, unless we prove ourselves useful to their purpose, they will just as soon put a bullet in our heads.
You WILL NOT win you crooked theives. "Bank" on it.
Know your history before they censor Internet.
First they canned Eliot Spitzer, NY governor at the time. sure call girls. but he was the guy with state power who could have sued the banksters into oblivion. corrupt institutions pointing finguers at personal morality? then they put a legally blind guy as a figure head while TARP passes by.
Then they canned Dylan Ratigan to shut him up about TARP and Fed's scams.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhfvE9bNls4&feature=related
Then MSNBC bribed Cenk Uygor to say what they want him to say, and he resignedback to his internet show. They replaced him with race baiter Al Sharpton.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x7o0sNrulg&feature=relmfu
They are all liars on wall st's house of ponzi, but small fries are sacrificed to keep the big boys in play. But there are many small fries now on the internet spilling the beans. Just look at Bank of America personally attacking Henry Blodget from Business Insider of having been banned from securities when Bank of America got TARP I and II and more. Max Keiser too probably got caught or lost money from front running that didn't pan out, but now he is out there telling everyone that the whole system is corrupt albeit through RT (Russia Today).
Then they booted Dominique Strass-Kahn out of IMF with US picked Christine Lagarde around the time IMF was warning about the debt ceiling.
Then they booted S&P's CEO Devon Sharma who downgraded US debt and replaced with Shittybank COO.
Today they arrested protesters at one of the most liberal cities in US, San Francisco.
You can't call this "free" market. You can't call this democracy or constitutional republic. This is people in power covering shit up.
WOW ... Dylan on TRUTH serum ...
Dylan, Dylan, and Dylan. He spits hot fire man.
you're too close mon!!!
Wow. Getting fired for THAT is like a badge of honor.
I hope the guy can get some Streisand effect out of this.
Actually that is a clip from his show now. I can't find any video of the one where he is yelling at Susan Krakower (co-creator of Fast Money), but heres what happened back in 2009.
The video of him ranting at a producer on commercial break also isn't helping matters over at CNBC.
He then accuses Krakower of never addressing his concerns in private:
Sadly, the video hasn't yet been posted on YouTube. But as soon as it is, we'll be sure to post it here.
BOOHYAH BITCHEZ!
Subterfuge bitchez!
Ya think? ;-)
Oh NO !!!! Zero Hedge has become Fox News..
No, Fox is controlled opposition. I've been reading the Hedge almost two years now (yes, account is only a week old. It took me awhile to sign up.) and not once have I thought of this place being co-opted. Although, if GS doing God's work then Tyler must be doing the work of the devil. So is this site controlled by the devil? hmmmm
Zorba forgot to print ' sarc ' after post
If your memory is as good as mine then I pity you.
LOL! They are all the sae fool. They all has Saudi Arabian money big time included their parent companies. Fox, CNN, Disney/ABC, GE/Comcast/NBC even CBS/Viacom. The Saudis are close with other tribe and I am not talking Shiites.
TV is for morons or Hope & Change arse l*cke*s. Full time 24x7 propaganda.
WAIT A DAMNED MINUTE! You mean I'm SUPPOSED to plant stories here? Sheesh, it used to be the old Yahoo finance board until the Fast Money hosts crowded us out of there....
Damn Tyler, you been ruffling feathers huh?
In the dark cave that conceals the monstrous evil deeds of the Wall St scum the lighthouse that is Zero Hedge really,really pisses off the super villains.
Another EPIC ZH WIN!!!
Great work Tyler!
Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts(?) of Banksters? The ZeroHedge knows...Bwahahahaha! :>D
Tyler is schooling the economists as always
Is there a person left in this country that believes CNBC over Zerohedge? I would be fucking shocked to meet an intelligent person who believes the MSM.
Yes, lots of them, unfortunately. I know many people who are smart, in their area of expertise, successful, etc., and believe everything they read in the NY Times and see on cnbc. They just don't get why their portfolios are plummeting. They are buying the dips. They are sure that gold will crash soon because Glenn Beck likes it and they hate Glenn Beck. My dad, with 3 million in his portfolio 3 months ago, told me, I don't like to think about money when I warned him that the markets would be tanking this summer. Now he has 2.5 million. Soon he may have a lot less.
I guess my point is that you can be smart in some limited way, but still be totally asleep to what's going on in the world.
That is not just a guess --- it is a fact in the overwhelming majority of cases. Supposedly "intelligent" doctors, engineers, attorneys and other professionals who are just as clueless (if not more so) when it comes to financial and monetary matters as your average bag lady.
On second thought, nix that --- at least the bag lady has street smarts, which most of the former do not.
Hey I resemble that remark, that is I am an engineer. I did put 20% of my portfolio into PMs a few years ago. Guess that makes me stupid because I didn't go 100%. I did however, cash out of my 401Ks in 2007 around 13.5K on the DOW and went all cash until I bought my PMS in 2008. Oh ya, we are just clueless and you trader fucks that make nothing but paper and push it around are so smart.
Hope you like your gold, I like mine. But I wouldn't have to have so much of it if Wall-Street and DC weren't so fucking corrupt and full of supposedly "intelligent" traders, politicians, bankers, and lobbyists. I would rather have a world full of hard-working doctors and engineers making REAL shit that we all like such as computers, iPads, software, cars, energy technologies, and just about every other fucking thing in our lives you take for granted... Oh ya, let's just fucking outsource all that to India and China because we can all sit around and pretend we are wealthy with paper notes and blocks of yellow metal.
Don't go bashing engineers or doctors. Attorneys on the other hand I don't mind you bashing them so much.
"energy technologies"
All the rest is bullshit.
;)
I think you may have taken my comments out of context and/or otherwise misinterpreted them.
I was not bashing attorneys, doctors or engineers for their professions themselves (although engineers are a notoriously humorless bunch), nor for what they do in their professions, but merely stating that they are just as clueless and just as willing to be led by the sociopathic power elite as anyone else when it comes to matters OUTSIDE of those professions --- for having compartmentalized intelligence, as it were, as you had earlier implied.
PS: I am not a trader in any way, shape or form.
Generally speaking akak I think you're right.
Every engineer I've ever met with the exception of a few are getting chewed up by: the money masters, trading accounts, shitty custodians front running IRA & 401k accounts, income properties, HFT algos. The old rules don't apply anymore and it isn't the same market.
Most feel like they've made it, time to kick back, watch; football, american idol, internet pron. (maybe all three). Nobody wants to confront the elephant in the room.
I talk about financial markets at work/socially, 90% of people are uncomfortable talking about it at any depth. It's just another form of arrested development.
Whenever I hear Au/Ag are in bubbles I just think back to how many people I know own precious metals. Doctors, lawyers, engineers, airline pilots, retirees. Can count on one hand.
Pigs get slaughtered, shearing sheep was so 2007.
the engineers I know...all of us were talking about this shit before the internet existed. Hell, back in like 1995 I said that the only way out was printing money. Were you even potty trained then?
Engineers are by nature long term strategists.
Traders/ wall st workers are salesmen and by nature short term flippers.
Lawyers are by nature bureaucrats good at lying.
Chinese Premier is an engineer. He is looking to advance China as dominant superpower over next 100 years.
Obama is a lawyer. He is looking to lie his way into power with bunch of red tape with his name on it.
Wall st traders don't care what happens to traded securities after they get the yearly commission or bonus.
Choose your leaders carefully. When you choose based on personality, looks, and speech, that's all you get.
+10.
Anyone who who watches TV is a moron. They are enabling the system/elites who are fvvking the stupid TV viewer over. Dumb sheeple.
I think it must be said that having "financial smarts" & making lots of monies doesn't make anyone more intelligent overall - just more wealthy.
of course, wealth is revered in our out-of-balance world, disproportionately so - but there are some (apparently) wealthy posters here who still don't get the basics on how nation states are assembled / stripped for parts, nor do these folk seem to care about the whole nest that's being shat in - as long as they has the precious & can get the perks, why look closely at the insane mess? "compartmentalized" indeed!
PS: not a trader either - I just like to skim the threads for sanity gems, heh.
The old saying" Follow the money" brings one to truth. which is a scarce commodity (to use a financial expression.)
And beyond that, people who are too busy with their professional lives to seek truth, are as guilty of negligence as those who neglect their children for the same reasons.
I do think perhaps you mis-read akak's post. You will find that there are many of us on here who are not traders. Not only that, but the zerohedge community in general has the utmost respect for people who are hard-working productive individuals across various industries. Furthermore, the Wall-Street and DC which is "corrupt and full of supposedly 'intelligent' traders, politicians, bankers, and lobbyists" is that which this entire website was created to expose. Buddy, the "traders" who are here are on your side.
What akak was saying (I believe) is that when it comes to politics and economics/finance, many people who are smart and perhaps academic and well-read in other disciplines, do not delve beyond what the MSM presents them on subjects pertaining to the economy and government. I think he was trying to say that "smart" in one discipline does not translate to another. I'm not a doctor, so when I get sick I don't try to self-medicate, I seek an "expert". Many people view the main stream media as an "expert" source of information on investing, and are therefore misguided. What is amazing is that otherwise intelligent people will fail to look into their statements and question them, as they would look into the background of a doctor before they are operated on.
I wonder if perhaps you haven't been around ZH for long. You'll find that comments can sound harsh and cold, but that comes with the territory. What you expect commenters' intent to be may not be what they are actually saying.
Thank you AustriAnnie, and you are exactly correct in your interpretation of my post, which was NOT meant as a slam at doctors, attorneys or engineers per se, but merely used them as examples of how people can be intelligent and knowledgeable in a specific area of expertise, and ignorant and gullible in other realms such as politics and financial matters. This is generally true of EVERYONE, not just those particular professions --- it is just that such highly-educated and "successful" people are often held up by the average person as implicitly intelligent in all aspects of life, when that is rarely the case.
Segmentation Fault! -- Just kidding -- from one crazed Software Engineer!
Never understood how people spend a lifetime building up a nest egg only to toss it away to some momo stock or entrust it with someone they barely know, rarely contacts them is and likely some 20 something coked up punk ass kid trying to be the next gekko.
That and they just don't want to know. Example. My mother was in banking for 50 years. She retired as treasurer of the bank. She's 86 and still on the board of directors. Worried about her retirement fund. Heavily into bonds. Will not listen. I quit talking about that. Although she does ask about gold from time to time she owns none.
Why does "new" appear next to my name? I've been around for quite awhile.
if you refresh your page Dave, you'll get "old" fast !
ZH runs a delicate balance. The commenter array on this site is 15X better than anywhere else. The articles themselves are important mostly to prompt the comment explosion, which often is rightly spent calling the article author an idiot.
Now, don't misunderstand. About 70% of comments are useless youtube links to pointless music or guys pimping their own site. But 30% of the comments are solid and provide top quality perspective.
And if they go beyond 3 paragraphs, they are not read.
Who loves ya, baby...
PS Promise I wont fuck it up again..
I can't say what needs to be said in 3 paragraphs or less...
Look at what the cat dragged in.... :)
Very funny.
Your last sentence.
LOL
It is the super-short one-liners that my eye routinely skips over, because they seldom have any worthwhile insight/content. Longer text generally (NOT ALWAYS) correlates with thoughtfulness and non-triviality.
Call it the Laffer curve of posting...
I do agree, 2-3 paragraphs at most, properly structured will typically have the highest quality of content...
Agreed! Not to be a worrypuss, but I do sometimes wonder about the increase in profile. Tyler, keep the fact checking high - the worst thing for what I see as a courageous truth movement in ZH is to lose credibility, or worse be pulled in for trumped up liable. The truth, as they say, will set you free.
Godspeed!
That is stupid. I've been following this site since a few months after it started and I can say with out a doubt that more correct and accurate "reporting" comes from this site. Sure one can call you a conspiracy junkie but like you said, once it's true it ain't a conspiracy no mo.
Hmm, I thought once it is proven it's no longer Conspiracy Theory, but conspiracy FACT. Still a conspiracy once proven. Can someone point me to a definition that shows that a conspiracy once revealed and proven as fact is no longer a conspiracy?
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/conspiracy
Any time two or more people consider committing an illegal act it is a conspiracy. The attack on September 11, for example, was a conspiracy because obviously more than one person was involved no matter which interpretation of events one accepts.
Right or to use a less charged example, Enron was a conspiracy to commit fraud. It's still a conspiracy even though it's now a known fact. That was my point.
NOT ...
Two or more may verbally conspire to commit an act, but the conspiracy does not rise to illegality until one of the conspirators takes a concrete step to further the scheme.
Then, all are guilty of conspiracy to commit whatever.
The law is often used when little evidence is available to prove a drug or fraud charge.
Theorem -- from Wolfram MathWorld"A theorem is a statement that can be demonstrated to be true by accepted mathematical operations and arguments. In general, a theorem is an embodiment of some general principle that makes it part of a larger theory. The process of showing a theorem to be correct is called a proof.
Although not absolutely standard, the Greeks distinguished between "problems" (roughly, the construction of various figures) and "theorems" (establishing the properties of said figures; Heath 1956, pp. 252, 262, and 264).
According to the Nobel Prize-winning physicist Richard Feynman (1985), any theorem, no matter how difficult to prove in the first place, is viewed as "trivial" by mathematicians once it has been proven. Therefore, there are exactly two types of mathematical objects: trivial ones, and those which have not yet been proven.
The late mathematician P. Erd?s has often been associated with the observation that "a mathematician is a machine for converting coffee into theorems" (e.g., Hoffman 1998, p. 7). However, this characterization appears to be due to his friend, Alfred Rényi (MacTutor, Malkevitch). This thought was developed further by Erd?s' friend and Hungarian mathematician Paul Turán, who suggested that weak coffee was suitable "only for lemmas" (MacTutor, Malkevitch).
R. Graham has estimated that upwards of mathematical theorems are published each year (Hoffman 1998, p. 204)."
SEE ALSO: Axiom, Axiomatic System, Corollary, Deep Theorem, Porism, Lemma, Metatheorem, Postulate, Principle, Problem, Proof, Proposition, Tautology, Trivial
Erdos also took amphetamines. Once, when he was confined to a hospital bed and could not get his amphetamines, he discovered that he became just like a normal person. He was unable to do creative mathematical work.
Thanks for the mathematical humor. I guess drinking coffee made dried coffee crystals would lead to corollaries. Incidently, I am unable to prove the truth or falsity of your last sentence. At least I now know why France has produced so many great mathematicians.
@Manzilla, 18 weeks and 4 days is not a few months after Zerohedge started. I am a member for 1 year and 38 weeks and I never thought that i signed up a few months after it started.
However, I agree with you that ZH has been prophetic and more accurate than anything else.
I lurked here for like 2 years before registering. Im sure others have as well. So hard to think of the right name...
I think the commenters were much better before I joined lol.
I lurked for about 6 months before someones comment poised me off so bad I had to register....then never got to even respond to it. But there have been plenty more since then.
glad I registered tho. Love this place! I laugh, I cry, I need sedatives because of it but love it none the less :)
what do you mean pointless? some of the music links, are pretty damn good.
I dont come here for music links. I have never clicked one. For me they are worthless, irrelevant, and take up space, like obstacles to get to content. Take it somewhere else I say. And FWIW I love music and have written more than my share as a high school rock star.
All work and no play...
Bullish! :)
They were trying lump zh in with that crook at BI. They spill shit daily.
saw that show and had a chuckle at that statement.
can I plant a story? about hedge funds giving me loads of money? for doing nothing? that'd be sweet. I'll cut you your 20% TD.
Sounds like they're jealous that so many take zerohedge seriously while laughing at CNBC.
Zerohedge is plugged into reality you dopey sheeple - deal with it bitchezzzzz!!
The reality right now is that futures for tomorrow are red. ZH better plant a story quick. Those futures will be green tomorrow morning. That is almost a guarantee. That seems to be the way it happens every day lately.
I'm just amazed how Tyler caused that earthquake today. I did not feel it but my wife did down in the Financial District. They evacuated her building, thinking it was something going on with the construction at the World Trade site. I think it was just evil emanating from the Goldman building.
That should be: Zerohedge is plugged into "reality"...
Tyler is actually Bernanke??? No way, I don't believe that.
Did you ever see the second Planet of the Apes movie? Just picture a scene where Bernanke removes his face and it turns out that he is Tyler Durden. God bless the bomb.
"Get your stinking paws off me you damn dirty banker!"
"This is a madhouse! A MADHOUSE!"
+ Like
Ever seen Tyler and The Bernank in the same place at the same time? Just sayin'... </sarc>
He told us you were going to say that. Come with us sir.
LMAO -- well-played.
Tyler is the 2nd gunman on the grassy knoll!!
LOL!!!...he's Timmah???
If Tyler Durden were to punch you in the face you would have an overwhelming urge to thank him.
Stay suspicious, my friend.
I don't often take the pulse of the socio-economic world...but when I do, I prefer ZH ;-)
Stay solvent my friends.
Got Silver?
Got Gold?
Got Cor-Bon / Double Tap / Speer Gold Dot?
Then you are LIQUID!!!
*golf clap...well done.
He is DB Cooper. Parlayed that $200k into a new website...
Uh, actually he is the 3rd....the FBI planted that story about there only being 2.....
i am not tyler durden
I friggin knew it. I'm going back to watching cnbc for the real news.
This is so fucknig pathetic!
I apologize but I have to confess that I have been turning on CNBC for about 3 minutes before work each morning. I had to look at that heinous bag known as BQ when she was 9 months pregnant. I thought that was disgusting. Now you tune in and you have to see that rotten pig MCC with her muzzle and horse face. I can't even look at her. I'm afraid I'm going to turn into Lot's wife.
As difficult as it is to look at these rejects it is much harder to listen to them. The stupidity is on a level that is not to be believed. If anybody sees that Andrew Ross Sorkin please kick him in the balls.
You know what they say about people with 3 names.
They all have girlfriends on the side.
.....any wonder why those CNBC folks took exception to ZH?????????
....not that I do not concur with you.....
Hold your horses there, pardner! Michelle CC happens to be a GREAT and BRAVE reporter. Lest you've forgotten, she had the GUTS to stand on a HIGH-RISE BALCONY to report the demonstrations in Athens. Did she quit when a wisp of ACTUAL TEARGAS wafted up that way? Hell no! She put on a GASMASK and FORGED ON without skipping a WORD of wirecopy.
Talk about worldly... Michelle had her finger on the PULSE of none other than ROME, boldly securing a one-on-one interview with her CABDRIVER to tell anxious viewers how REAL ITALIANS FEEL.
Say, does Michelle emanate SAVOIR FAIRE or what? The answer, of course, is FUCKIN' A she does! Not only has she MASTERED the Bartiromo PRO-SLUR-DRAWL of pronouncing 'ess' as 'ESH', but how about that time she didn't treat a DEMOCRAT very DISMISSIVELY?
CNBC's Michelle CC: a WALL STREET REPORTER's Wall Street reporter!
Now now, it takes over 20 years for a Progressive/Socialist to become so heavily dain-bramaged! :>D
'First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.'
Mohandas Gandhi
Word!
Word up!
+1 for relevant user name :P
lol, CNBS calling other people irresponsible.
That's probably the best compliment they could have given you, Tyler.
Also, how do I plant stories here? I want to put in one about Bernanke's intimate encounters with the whole cast of Animal Farm.
Are you reporting from the Jacks On Hole?
I thought it was the Jackson Ho?
Jack's Sore Hole --- and all of us are Jack.
Yes, definitely a compliment. These are some of the same idiots that didn't see the financial crisis coming. I wish each one of them had to put up their trading records then nobody would watch this crap.
Well if hedge funds really have their ear pressed here, why are they doing so shitty? 2 and 20 to get kicked in the nuts for returns?
Don't take it bad: you got free advertising on CNBC, right next to Yves Smith, and they acknowldged that lots of hedge funds look at ZH. Hard to get a better compliment IMHO
That is pretty cool. I couldn't actually watch the clip. Every time I hear Karen Finerman speak I can't take a shit for four days. I just can't take the risk. Thanks for letting me know what the clip was about.
TMI, but it just had the opposite effect on me.
the fdic headline was misleading today, they don't care about that?
Zero Hedge - outed as the information leaking arm of the Illuminati? Tyler the real master, Soros just a mere puppet? Who knew?
Zero Hedge - outed as the information leaking arm of the Illuminati? Tyler the real master, Soros just a mere puppet? Who knew?
The only time I watch CNBC is when someone links to a clip of their program. They are a worthless, cheerleading, group of shills that have caused the destruction of so much wealth.
No the wealth has already been destroyed - they just direct the animals into killing zones.
Time to take this blog to the next level. May i propose "Zero hedge+socgen type leverage"
Clever
"Truth is more stranger than fiction"
~Mark Twain
T. D., thank you for this clip from the new "alternative media"! Tuco
"Nowadays the truth is a conspiracy theory." Dr. Paul Craig Roberts
Can you imagine the shit storm that will hit when CNBC finds out about Tyler and Erin Burnett's weekend rendezvous at Richard Branson's private island?
Word around the campfire is "there are pictures of them looking at BAC charts together and laughing".
More to come I'm sure...
I guess Erin wanted to look down and see something that wasn't flat, for once.
Those poor souls are just now taking Marc Fabers advice - don't trust anybody.
PS if BoA could somehow offload its debt on Ireland, we will be happy to take it - we like that sort of thing.
Bring on the debt gimps.
Still waiting for the imminent hyperinflation that has been (consisntently wrongly) predicted for the last three years...
What do you propose as an alternative? Deflationary collapse? Or perhaps an old British favorite (said in a jowly yet sage voice) "we will somehow muddle through"?
Junked? Why? Why not respond anonymous junker?
I tend not to make predictions because the economy can be pretty... unpredictable.
Here's some food for thought though:
http://www.cepr.net/index.php/blogs/beat-the-press/alan-greenspan-insist...
I will read your link and thanks for responding.
As to not making predictions does that mean you have no market position whatsoever, not even cash? Isn't any position other than a zero net worth in essence a call on the market one way or the other? I mean if one buys AAPL then one assumes you are bullish on AAPL?
I'm not asking for time-frames, just a general idea of what you think the alternative is. As to get piled on, well that's pretty much what happens once we hit "save". Unless of course you post something really bland and boring.
Okay, I don't find hyperinflation very likely at all, so I don't have a problem holding cash, happy? I find a stagant economy a la the way of Japan but not as deflationary/disinflationary more likely over the next few years. And even if there was hyperinflation, it's not going to have anything to do wtih QE1 or QE2.
How is buying 70% of your own debt yourself good for holding cash. And yes we will be like Japan for a few years till the riots start, then we will look quite different. Enjoy your State Fair.
Plus this place is literally the biggest circle jerk I have almost ever seen in my life (infowars is the only place that is worse), I don't exactly want to get piled on.
Then your willingness to participate in it says just what exactly about you?
He likes to be in the middle. Playing catcher.
Ouch...
I HATE YOU GUYS!!! CAN I JOIN YOUR ClUb?
You don't want to belong to any club that would have you as a member....
Britonomist, re your link, the writer could be Bernanke himself, saying QE isn't inflationary. When you pay "retail" for the most putrid and worthless garbage the banks will happily hand you, that is grossly inflationary, regardless the stat you apply. Such is the argument.
*yawn*
Yet another troll.
This place is where you can say what you think and the worst thing that can happen to you is some down arrows. You don't think there will be hyperinflation... that is fine, but provide some evidence as to why you think it will not happen. The case has been thoroughly presented as to why it could (though there is a strong argument for deflation as well). This is fight club, take your position, defend it, don't just come in here and say, "you are all stupid because you think hyperinflation is going to happen... oh and you all jerk each other."
State your position and defend it. Fight club bitch.
yeah you do
Here ya go: http://www.godlikeproductions.com/
De'nada!
Where did Tyler say hyperinflation was imminent (especially three years ago, before the blogspot blog was even opened)?
And what set of circumstances do YOU think we would have to see for hyperinflation to occur?
Also funny that you haven't noticed that those playing the "imminent hyperinflation" trade for the past three years are up at least several-fold over where they started. I have certainly gained a great deal of purchasing power by holding non-dilutable currency.
Or are you just sniping because you have nothing better to do, and are a tiny, tiny man with very little self esteem?
Are you kidding, this whole blog is just pointless sniping, conspiracist bullshit (seriously the truther crap during the death of Binladen was almost sickening) as well as sensationalist whining about 'hyperinflationary monetary easing' and constant articles from moronic austrian theorists with no credibility. This is where all the finance tough guys come to revel in doomsday speak (not that they don't have a financial interest to anyway). Also, they made money because doing the "imminent hyperinflation" trade results in investing in assets that also typically happen to rise in proportion to a worsening or stagnating economy.
I think we just found the latest incarnation of WilliamtheBastard/LongJuanWilliam/TexasGunslinger/LibertariansforProsperity, and five or six other names which I cannot at the moment recall.
In case you are NOT that same troll, Brit, then your outrageous and hate-filled blanket generalizations regarding those who challenge and call out the corrupt and failing power elite --- those you slur as "doomers" --- have been proven wrong again and again, as those so-called "doomers" have been proven right, and have thereby profited by taking those financial positions that you mainstream, pro-Establishment sheep have derided as "risky", "speculative" and "Armageddonist". I guess facing reality and acknowledging it for what it truly is is just as unpopular as it was in Cassandra's time --- and Cassandra's prophecies were invariably proven to be correct by subsequent events.
See look at this, this is exactly what I'm talking about, you guys are ridiculously dramatic, you're living in some bizarro heroic fantasy, the throthing at the mouth rambling comments are indistinguishable from the typical comments at infowars. And anyone that takes a contrary position is a plant for the establishment or some bullshit like that. No, just because I don't see any technical reason for hyperinflation in the near future doesn't make me a pro-Establishment sheep, get a fucking grip.
And no, I'm not a troll, nor am I 'williamthebastard' or any of those other guys. Have fun sticking it to the man.
Yes, you are a troll. If you want to stop being a troll, leave, and never return. Your "observations" aren't wanted here by ANYONE.
It's funny, the latest incarnation of the libtroll that was (perhaps first) known as Red Neck Repugnicant called me all sorts of words menaing crazy for noticing that he was the same guy as his earlier user names. Then he nailed himself to the wall by referencing a conversation we had had when he was using an earlier username AND forgetting to log in as his other user name to give himself props.
If we are "paranoid", it is because we are, in fact, under attack by at least two name changing trolls. The fact that you are talking about "three years" of whatever here at ZH, while your user name is only four months old makes you appear to be one of them.
But seriously, get out. You're not wanted.
I've been reading this blog for ages since I like to try and get a balanced perspective by reading a diversity of viewpoints (something pretty much entierly alien to this place, you know, not being massively one sided). I very rarely comment on blogs, but the ridiculously arrogant and circlejerkish tone of this place has lit a fuse for me today and I feel at least SOMEONE should have the audacity to buck the trend and actually have a CONTRARY opinion for once, hence me commenting. I don't know how to prove this is my first account other than to have the mods check, you can also just search my name on the blogosphere and you'll probably see comments from this username on other blogs from years ago.