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And In The Category For Biggest Conspiracy Theory We Have....
Two and a half years after consistently and methodically exposing one conspiracy after another (and by the way, once it is proven to be a fact, it is no longer a conspiracy), we were stunned to find that the biggest conspiracy theory is none other than... Zero Hedge. "Zero Hedge, for example, is one that lots of hedge funds look at, lots of money managers look at, and the guy that runs it has their ear. Now I'm not saying that he is not doing his own proprietary work, but, people like to plant stories in there. [cue ominous silence]." TA DUN DUN.
Gee - one does learn something new every day.
And now, back to planting malicious rumors and vile, incorrect stories of ponzi schemes, broken markets, deranged vacuum tubes, plundered tungsten bars, BLS data manipulation, collapsing Nielsen ratings, hyperinflationary obsessive-compulsive printing habits, global central planner intervention and what not.
Also, to anyone who still doesn't get it, please send your dodecatuple secret "plant" stories to plant@zerohedge[.]com along with your payment made in physical gold Zimbabwean dollars, to be delivered to our paper street headquarters. We certainly would prefer it if the drop man is Bank of America's James Mahoney.
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CNBC has reached a new point of desperation. Zero Hedge has more credibility than CNBC can ever hope to have.
CNBC Front Page: Bove: I Changed My Mind, Buy the Bank Stocks Now
Freaking priceless.
How is that guy not living in a tent after Lehman?
truth does not need to be believed.
truth washes out drama and emotion and noise and leaves only admiration.
Need a Bloomberg chart of zerohedge growth vs. cnbc for the past three years.
CNBC would say its not sustainable and that ZH is in a bubble. Parabolic growth "bitches" ...
Strangely their claim would be right. ZH growth is limitted in a similar fashion to a gold-backed currency. You cannot have the money supply grow to more gold than is backed and ZH cannot grow to a size larger than its audience, which is of course the human population and any "aliens" with the technology to be able to tune in... ;-)
CNBC has hit a "soft patch" (like quicksand).
I like the one about the zero hedge warehouse filled with decks of cards containing bankster photographs and their last known home address.
Excellent replacement for currency if SHTF?
Are we going to get a separate tab for the Plant stories?
Traction, Bitchez!
Congrats Tyler. This proves what many of us have know for some time.
ZH identifies critical issues, shapes debate and moves markets.
That BAC is blaming you for a 55% drop in the stock this year is the highest level of respect you could get.
bk
If only ZH would get their spotlight off'n us, why we could grow the US Economy like in daze of olde! :>D
zh is rubber and they're phlegm. whatever they say bounces off zh and sticks to them.
I know you are but what am I?
It's so clear, so easy to see the propoganda now, thanks to contrast created
by bloggers, especally Tyler and company (WB !)
It won't be long before they up the attack against blogging with regulation and gunpoint kidnapping, then
the fight is on (the street).
Keep up the awesome work, whoever you are.
stants house got moved to boa they been calling me everyday last week. we been never late and over pay 100 bucks[ as our org contract said we could. hassle the good ones to re finance and get them off the books lol. riding them down in flames. i own two others out right
Sun Tzu must be very proud of you.
"Mark Twain and I are in very much the same position. We have to put things in such a way as to make people who would otherwise hang us, believe we are joking."
-- George Bernard Shaw
Zero Hedge, a conspiracy to expose the lies of sociopathic con men!
This sums it all up when it comes to CNBC and any sort of creditably. Everybody on ZH should send this link to the morons on Fast Money and to Cramer and put this in the subject line... "Remember this ??"
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-march-9-2009/in-cramer-we-trust
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zh is a rubber and they're jizm, whatever they accuse zh of sticks to the the ass crack of their joo-day-ism.
Cash for gold is a conspiracy engineered by Bernanke to persuade the public to give up their gold. There. I said it.
Presstitutes, commence babbling!
Well done Tyler, at last the real debate starts in Clowndom...
The last guy to speak (yes I watched all of it) says (para-phrase) 'the mortgage put-backs are probably 20-50Billion'...ummm, so this is where this started with BoA bullshitting about put-backs based on some seriously goofy junior analyst which was exposed by TylerCo and they think they are slamming the blogosfear when in fact, they now agree. Belatedly.
They have no shame, no credibility and they are giving ZH publicity...1 out of 3 ain't bad!
Wouldnt it still be a conspiracy even after you prove it a fact. It just wouldnt be a theory anymore. Just a conspiracy.
Yeah, I had the same thought and got junked for it. :)
The lady doth protest too much...
The near ad-hominem attack is the best they can do. I dont even think they wanted to, looked forced.
Im still wondering what this big money there is behind ZH.
Sounds like its all over except for the shouting.
What did Ghandi say? "First the ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they attack you. Then you win." or something like that.
Tyler, this stuff about you and us is nothing like the old days....they were actually deroogaatoorry, CNBC duds. This crapolla about planting conspiracies is like SPY Vs SPY...all mad. And funny if you really think about it.
Hall of Mirrors bitchez!
So Tyler NOW we know who's 'behind' you...haha Whos the ZH hater?
Why would you even acknowledge CNBC, Tyler? You're above that (or so I thought).
Hubris is a terrible thing...
We are never above having a laugh at the expense of human stupidity.
A Citigroup executive will be running your site in a week.
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former - Albert Einstein
lol
If ya couldn't laugh, ya'd have to cry!
On a brighte rnote....this little tiff from CNBS has prompted some of the better comments from our fellow conspirators here...of course here we have a TV show that permits every single 'guest' to tout his book and they say stories are planted here? One of the funniest lines of the year....amazing.
Darn it, if only the Stupid would move the price of AU/AG even higher!
Big fund out of Asia selling huge amounts AUD and NZD . Looks like risk off trade is kicking in. Nikkei down going to 1.00% negative.
Somthing is up...and it is bad sh*t
.....are you planting or speaking the truth....I heard a rumor stories are being planted here....for example there was one recent example concerning a ridiculous story that BofA was insolvent...
not be spreading any rumors here, but i heard that Jerry "the king" Lawler has a 10" schlong.....please do not repeat this or pass it along to anyone else....ok, shhh, its top secret.
now back to your regularly "planted" blogs from ZH....!!!
Jerry is a fucking liar.
Shirley, I don't suppose you'd want to divulge how you know?
Today's rally seemed contrived to me, but so have all of them this month other than just technical buy's on oversold conditions. Futures down too. I'm only in PM's and shorts right now so yeah, I lean to the bear side. Thanks for the currencies update.
I hit a few more bear trades today...and I had all bear trades before plus a stack of physical PMs. Black swans all over the place. Seems to me there's only one place to be.
And, yes, I'm in on the conspiracy. After all, I've been to Bielefeld.
Well we had a hard rally on lighter than average (average being the big moves over the last few weeks) volume. You've probably got some short covering going on, bottom feeders coming in, general lack of selling conviction (for the day), and HFT algos that don't really give a rat's ass which way the market moves as long as it is moving. The interesting thing is that, logically, if you wanted a QE announcement on Friday as so many seem to expect, you want the market lower by Jackson Hole... we'll see how it plays out.
At least now we've cleared technical oversold conditions so we could push through quite hard to the downside before we reach the oversold levels we saw two weeks ago.
and the war has started..... won't take long before other clowns will start blaming ZH.
i am just a dumb hillbilly who bought gold and silver now i learned ive been scamed by zh. my toothless self will be here in the morn for more scam. but i will have my gun aimed at the monitor just incase tyler trys it again
I trusted you guys. Now I find out you are schills ruining my chance at a prosperous future and are CAUSING the unpalpable pain?
You Bastards! I mean...Friends.
you left out...."Oh My God! You Killed Kenny!" before "You Bastards!"
Funny, while covering the earthquake today, one of the commentators mentioned that some of the CNBC offices at Goldman Sachs were shut down...how funny is that...If you can't listen to CNBC and look through their lies, just don't watch. Many of these people will have to answer for peddlling LIES.
Love ya Tyler, BRAVO, BRAVO!!! and THANK YOU ALWAYS for your wonderful perfect soulful precious muckraking heart!!!!
Yep, I've been reading since the early days and owe Tyler a ton when it comes to the knowledge gleaned. Thanks Tyler you big bad meanie you!
Silly CNBS
Just don't get it, do ya?
psst, so tyler, who's paying for your billion $$ server in your super secret off-shore mega conspiracy think-tank complex? we'll keep it on the down low
OMG! You have ears? Who knew! The biggest CONspiracy are the talking heads.
Nothing but three CNBC stooges wanting to be a Tyler Durden. Who signs your check bitchez? Oh that's right, Jeffery Immelt does. What would you expect coming from the lips of the fascist CNBC cheerleaders? Maybe It's time to look in the mirror and just admit you have been wrong all along and if it wasn't for the FED bailing all you bitchez out you would have been gone a long time ago with all the worthless advice you feed everybody each and every day...Tell Steve I hope he has fun trout fishing with Ben in Jackson hole and tell Cramer he is nothing more then a propped up windbag...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUkbdjetlY8
Congratulations Tyler is all I got to say about this...
Way to go, ZH. This site is very popular in the biz.
Re: Fast Money... the show is difficult to watch. Like someone else mentioned they always seem to be on the right side of the trade, even if they called it wrong the day before, they're somehow right the next. It was better back when Rattigan was running the show and guys like Macke were on... at least then was it entertaining and every now and then informative.
the day Rattigan left, i turned it off, and never watched it again...!!!
Gold Zimbabwean dollars. Classic!
great site but you lost me with the spam/gold unwind trade yesterday. Considering I just got 3 tacos for $1 at del taco, yes gold is overpriced, in terms of food. Just imagine if oil supply ever got cut off, about 5 billion can immediately kiss their ass goodbye. If that has even a 1% chance of happening, you want to be long Mountain House #10 cans, not gold.
Everyone KNOWS ya cain't eat coffee grounds!
1st they run-down blogett and zero-hedge as mere bloggers - then they start using the points that they raise i think they ended advising to short BAC
Tyler and staff are having a huge, positive impact on the world it is making guardians of the status quo jealous and uncomfortable.
I often check ZH on Bloomberg, every now and then they seem to omit some of the more compelling posts. Just thought I'd mention it.
The Bloomberg terminals have the twitter feed which starts with "TWT_" and they also have the main ZH site. I can't say that I've noticed missing any new events on ZH after setting up a news alert, but its always possible...
Yeah, but not ALL ZH'ers have the same privileges (Oops, was I supposed to NOT say something about that?)
CNBS is a bunch of jackasses, 24-7-365. Just show us the numbers, and make the case. But they never do.
If CNBS really cared to inform its watchers of what's relevant in the financial world, they'd be hitting the key financial driver, with solid data, of the current situation 24-7-365: global debt. Every story should revolve around that central theme. PERIOD. Everything else is ancillary.
Tyler and ZH provide the numbers and make a case. And with the data, one can make his/her own conclusions.
CNBS is a dinosaur propped up by the status quo.
i am so sick of zh pushing simon black and phoenix on us, they suck tehyre scum, stop the pushing of crap
I really love CD's posts, he's the star contributor in my book! I don't mind Simon Black. I'm disgusted by the Phoenix crap.
Get in the 21st century. Us 21st centurions have developed the means of not reading things that we find unpleasant. It's called free will.
What ever happened to that Mad Hedgefundtrader guy? Anyway glad he decided not to continue posting at ZH, whose commenters were not sufficiently appreciative of his inconoclast views.
Talk about planting stories:
Nasdaq Could Drop to 2000 on Jackson Hole DisappointmentIt's right on CNBC's homepage.
That'd be the pot calling the kettle black my friends.
If CNBC turns out to be correct, can we get the SEC to "probe" them?
I've been reading Zerohedge since spring 2009. Always true but never tradable lol
If only ZH had recommended PM you knot-head.
well that's not a trade, not even an investment.
something else & better.
... well that's not a trade, not even an investment.
How so? How do PMs not qualify as a trade? How do PMs not qualify as an investment?
they qualify as both, but at the moment they are a kind of storage.
in a good way, until someone important is even able to raise interest rates bwahaha.
Right ....
tsk no longtime lurkers allowed ?
who remembers that goldman666 guy anyways ?
or Cheeky Bastard
or the other 4 or 5 guys that used to post here and were sharp as hell
and lets be honest, macro themes are not very tradeable as far as clean entries and exits. I work with a kid who has some kind of vendetta against this place because he lost money shorting stocks about a year back. Losers are always someone elses fault...
they did have some neat pair trades that were neat-o tho.
I had to google Weis, never heard of him because I do not watch that channel. This guy reccommended JPM in April at $ 46. and change.
Interesting that they went out of their way to discredit everyone but themselves.
you just know old sue has the zh twitter feed on the side of her bloomberg. that's what she's looking at on her on-air laptop when no-one can see the screen. use your mojo on her TD!
Lovin it. Must have kick 'em right in the squids.
If CNBC was doing their job they'd of already been reporting the BAC stuff instead of tut-tutting others for scooping them (again) and doing their job for them. And JPM oughta be paying ZH big money for getting BAC cheaper (split evenly among all the commenters who chimed in, course).
(CNBC ratings: not over 61,000 viewers 25-54 yo in prime time [on 8-22], and they've been pretty consistently in the cellar, like, for-evaah)
This sort of thing just adds to the ZH brand. I'm seeing links to ZH in all kinds of places. Gold isn't the only thing going parabolic.
Even the Roubini thing just adds to ZH mystique. The Addage is that one should never pick a fight unless you think the opponent is bigger than you are, otherwise it diminishes you and is a waste of time. If they are picking a fight with ZH, it means they think the Tylers and ZH are top dog. Spot on, bitchez!
Roubini used to have a great site that attracted a lot of intelligent comment. But then, for some reason, he killed it. I never understood why except that I believe it had something to do with Larry Summers having a financial interest in RGE. Strange though.
I'm surprised CNBC didn't name Chumbawamba. Anyone who truly knows ZH knows about Chumba--that would have established their bona fides. You never see TD signing his posts, "I am Tyler Durden".
Outed myself on Facebook. When voices of dissent are threatned - yeah you know:
And In The Category For Biggest Conspiracy Theory We Have.... | ZeroHedge
www.zerohedge.com
Two and a half years after consistently and methodically exposing one conspiracy after another (and by the way, once it is proven to be a fact, it is no longer a conspiracy), we were stunned to find that the biggest conspiracy th
I'm proud to have donated to Zero Hedge!
Me too
Damn they pulled the video
Would it really make a difference to anyone if stories were posted with disclaimers a la Fast Money? No doubt commentators are doing their best to manipulate securities for profit, but isn't that the American Criminal-Banker way?
curses foiled again
I'd like to plant a kiss on Michelle Lee. I think she could be so warm and cuddlely on a cold winter night.
#1 The Asian chick used to be thinner and hotter.
#2 Any advertising is good advertising.
#3 "The first rule of fight club is..."
#4 see #3.
we do actually "GET IT" as well as the fact that its on CNBC a unit owned by GE - you know - the puppet master's job czar Jeff I-melt who uses the show as a propoganda megaphone for bullishness (in China that is).
It's "old media" vs "new media".
The old are threatened, and like a cornered rat they strike in desperation. CNBS lost the war when they totally, totally missed the boat on the crisis. Every day they rolled out empty suits all joining in the same conspiracy "we're in late innings with this" "we're down today, but is this the bottom", "it's all rumors".....and on and on. When Cramer got raosted by John Stewart they should have listened up. But they didn't.
Now they're an empty, discredited shell who lost the message. They've been exposed as just a long running informercial on how to get rich quick (hint: if you pay me first)
And "blog" is scoffed at like its an affliction.
Those fucking cretins.
ZERO FUCKING HEDGE!!!! +the national debt clock. Bin laden(Yeah Right, LOL) could have did America a HUGE favor and just flew those four planes into the CN-BULLSHIT-C studio. Rewind 1 year ago, karen finermans largest holding-yep, BOA. Tyler, you fucking rock.
Good job TD...You know you have arrived when the spoke holes at CNBC tout your analysis as conspiratorial.
What's great about this site is that it contains the universe of unwashed perspectives. I'm at the point that I look to ZH for breaking news and not CNBC any longer.
Ah yes, it was inevitable. Attack the guys like Zerohedge and S&P for daring to tell the truth, ban short selling, suspend mark to market, dump oil out of the SPR, blah, blah, it just goes on and on.
In the end, truth and markets always win. Keep up the great work ZH!
Is CNBC an[sic] msm whore?
HELL F%CKING YEAH!
+1 BUZZ
YEN
Shit, they found us! What to do... run for cover or gang up and beat them?
The post TARP, post big bailout world is a different place. It's hard to trust anything these zombie banks say because by all rights, and given a free market, they should all be dead and gone. The Federal Reserve's and Washington's reaction to 9-15-08 massacre at Lehman put us in a new reality where disinformation in the financial press is the norm. Silly attempts by the MSM to discredit alternative news and opinion outlets such as ZH are pathetic. When it comes to credibility, I would trust the Zh community far more than the MSM propaganda merchants.
Congratulations. Much better than the MSNBC headline "the rebels broke into the Gahdaffi family compound. None of the family were there." Yesterday MSNBC reported "one Gahdaffi son was sitting in a hotel lobby; he hadn't been captured by rebels after all." Does MSNBC even bother to read what they write?
Tyler(s),
While I know you work your asses off, the recipe is simple -- Purveyors of Truth is, eventually, the place to be.
Your success, in that context, is testament to the sad state of affairs, and I wholeheartedly congratulate you.
Gold to Armstrong's $12K, bitchez.
Another milestone acheivement
BRAVO TYLER.
I read the site everyday.
The CNBC's guy looks like a white shit blaspheming
I just want to plant something between Karen Finerman's legs.
OK, that was tasteless. So sue me, but, know this, the wicked thoughts of one man sitting alone in a room with a computer on the internet is not - by definition - a conspiracy.
Rather, it is inspired art.
LOL....FNE your Avatar looks like you have looked up a few dresses in your time ;-)
When I was a kid, not but 4 or 5, my Mom owned a dress shop, and I got spanked more than once for peeking up, however after a good spankn' I'd always get a boner...It made me only want to continue my behavior.
funniest fucking thing I've read all day.
And keep an eye out for Yves - great analysis on Naked Capitalism even if I don't always agree.
As a fan of ZH from the early days, i can honestly say i have never been prouder.
Shape the debate, don't buy into it, has been the constant since the beginning days on blogspot.com
Between this and the Globe&Mail, it would appear that the debate is indeed being shaped.
Who would have thought that one hyperventilating manic blogger could have changed ones world.....bastard.
To all the Tylers...Thank you.
ZH proving every day that not every conspiracy is a theory.
Anytime you can rattle them enough to make them resort to inuendo and name calling, your doing a good job.
TD, your doing a GREAT job.
I'm not money smart, only have little PM, got a10yr old computer, and am just a man in the country. Been reading this blog for a few months and have learned to respect a lot of you folks including Tyler. Brothers, I thank you for what I have learned from this place.
Have to agree, but there's still NO WAY I would want to get involved in options/forex trading!
This will be a 1000 posts +
Missed it by that much.
Glitch??
In I also always try to plant my story here. And guess what? It works ;)
Congratulations, Tyler! Two pieces of large scale free publicity within a week!! Why would BAC care one bit about an irrelivant "blog-a-sphere" if the truth were not be reporting? They know that we know and now anyone that has a brain will begin following ALL the news site listed in their report. I see a flood a coming!!
Time to get some more servers!
well, the fight is truly on !
Will the real Tyler Durden please introduce me to Pink Floyd?
Zero Hedge is now on the map and nothing good has ever come of it.
You did it, you touched a nerve, you changed the conversation, time to sell the site, take a vacation and start a new site after the no-comp clause expires.
just try and plant someting here . you will get your ass handed to you. nobody believes anything. they cant verify
Funny and true LOL
I have a Skunk under My deck "V" ???
I now know exactly where some of the ZH money comes from: me. I'd delayed contributing to Tyler's band of enlightened despots for far too long! So tonight, after viewing the outrageous comments on the CNBC clip, I decided to flip a monetary finger to the CNBC zombies who slowly eat the brains of their viewers, and toss a nano-sized money bomb to ZH.
Thanks to Tyler and the host of contributors and posters (even the bad ones) I am a much wiser investor and preparer for whatever manure is rapidly approaching the fan blades.
Tyler, thanks again for causing the kind of mayhem you do. I'm not a joiner, but for Fight Club I make an exception.
zero hedge...we'll help you out!
HA.
Scotch on screen!
In a round about way, these clowns just threw fuel on the fire even though they were trying to make a positive case here. BofA is toast...
Tyler, so it is you responsible for their collapse? Naughty Tyler.
I would prefer that the "fast money" people on TV say NOTHING. I never seen such concentrated dialectic bullshit.
All I hear is crickets,
Suspend FASB, allow banks to count MBS and CDOs as Tier 1 reserve assets...need we say more? Reserves are PAST accumulation of wealth, not FUTURE. 9:1 my white ass!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4zyjLyBp64
IFester
Why are they looking at camera so persistently and aggressively instead of looking at each other?
Another spin doctor recipe?
Talking heads can't face the truth and hold their shit together on TV at the same time.
So, they face the cameras and lie.
Persistently and with meaning.
CUT!!! I'm NOT feelin' the love! Emote more, ya jerks -- show some hate already!
CNBC getting less eyeballs, ZH getting more.
CNBC shrills part of GE- Tarp money bailout recipient, and tax evader extrodinaire with plenty of pay-off lobby contribution money to Obummer.
nice job by melissa lee to try to descredit blodgett and the blogosphere
we should get our news from cnbc, right? the very same cnbc that's run by GE with the CEO of GE whispering in Obama's ear
yeah. cnbc first. yeah
CNBC is solely for Buffet to troll for ass.
Apart from running on the lounge tv of country clubs across America, the channels a joke to professionals. Even Roubini would rather be on Bberg, where Brennan and the others cream when shots of Obama show up watching their sycophantic shows.
The ass on CNBC used to be better looking.
@e_goldstein
You would not be copyright infringing on my avatar are you ?
Good job I assure you nobody knows what it is.
Carry on
Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it. ~Gandhi
Thank you and congratulations, Tyler.
India Outsourcing Converges With IPhone Apps
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/print/2011-08-23/india-s-next-outsource-market-converges-with-iphone-apps-tech.html
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-23/fed-made-state-street-profitable-as-money-fund-middleman-in-08.html
Fed Made State Street Profitable as Middleman
European Bank Job ‘Bloodbath’ Surpasses 40,000
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/print/2011-08-23/european-bank-job-bloodbath-surpasses-40-000-as-ubs-cuts-workforce-by-5-.html
Buy your IAPPS bitchezz and support India. Yea Americans love their phones alright and will be broke forver and ever.
Never has Main Street been so broke and Corporate America so rich.
Oh stop! Their being paid well to dismantle the USA, Their just doing their job. Hater.
The Bad Guy.
I wouldn't buy Mahoney's chum with fake counterfeit FRNs.
This is fucking unbelievable!!!! This govt is literally trying to crush all media who oppose the ponzi scheme and people who are telling the truth! This govt is nothing more than thuggery. Whats next?
Free speech is no more. Triangulation by both sides.
We were not born to be serfs.
What's next you ask?
The repeal of Private Property.
Patriots being labled "Enemies of the State" via DHS MIAC report
Laws against Farmers raising dust and stopping the private farm from producing via S 511 and S 510
Texas public school children being taught Muslim fundementals via Rick Perry right now
Protesting taxes or flying the Giddion Flag marks you as being a domestic enemy.
Buying ammunition or survival gear at your local Army Navy as your store clerk is on the phone with DHS listing all your purchaces and reporting if you paid with cash.
Having your house raided without a warrent
DHS interviewing your employer if you have Nationalistic tendencies
The list goes on, so you tell me.. What's next in your minds eye?
The Bad Guy.