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And Here Is What Draghi CAN Do, In His Own Words
For those stunned that the market is reacting as euphorically as it is to remarks which are basically a rehash of prior Draghi statements and are nothing new, or that bond yields are ripping in on the implicit threat that Draghi may reactivate the SMP, in the process further subordinating bondholders and cramming them down forcing even more selling, here is a sampling of previous Draghi statements explaining what he can do, and more importantly, what he is allowed to do under the existing European framework. Which is why we find it not very surprising that Draghi waited until all usual German suspects are on vacation and are thus unable to immediately issue a press release as to the structural limitations of what Draghi can do. Because when in doubt, ask this: does export-heavy Germany want a strong or a weak euro?
December 2011 - ECB Press Conference
Question: Why is it so impossible for the ECB to act like the other central banks, like the Federal Reserve System or the Bank of England? Why do you not act more directly to help European countries by buying up the debt on a massive scale?
Draghi: As I said before, we have a Treaty and the Treaty states what our primary mandate is, namely to maintain price stability. Also, the Treaty prohibits monetary financing. I am old enough to remember that, when this Treaty was written in the early 1990s, some of the countries around that table were actually doing what you suggest doing now, namely some of the central banks of these countries were financing the government expenditure of their governments through money creation, and the consequences were there for all of us to see. That is why, in a sense, this Treaty embodies the best tradition of the Deutsche Bundesbank, whereby monetary financing has always been prohibited.
Question: Mr Draghi, speaking in Parliament you also emphasized that the ECB would ensure price stability in both directions. Does that mean that there is a fear of deflation? My second question is, from a purely legal point of view, do you think there is any limitation on the ECB regarding the amount of government bonds that can be bought, as long as it can be justified on the basis of monetary policy considerations.
Draghi: At the present time we do not see a high probability of deflation. That is one point to keep in mind. The second point is, as I have said many times, that the purpose of the SMP is to reactivate the transmission channels of monetary policy. As I said in the statement to the European Parliament, the SMP is neither eternal nor infinite. We must keep this in mind and we do not want to circumvent Article 123 of the Treaty, which prohibits the monetary financing of governments.
And secondly, you have mentioned Article 123 in the Treaty. Would you consider active buying at around the time certain instruments are issued to be something that would be state financing, and would you regard that as being against ECB law?
Draghi: On the first issue, we are aware of the technical complexities that would arise with the SMP having an infinite size, but we will think about this. As for the other question, one can construct many different cases. But, as I said before, the key thing is that we should not try to circumvent the spirit of the Treaty. No matter what the legal trick is, I think what matters for the people and what matters for the confidence and credibility of the institution is the spirit of this provision of the Treaty.
2/9/12 - ECB Press Conference
Question: I also had a question on the EFSF. If the ECB were to transfer the bonds it has acquired under the SMP to the EFSF, would that be monetary financing?
Draghi: The EFSF is like a government. Giving money to governments is monetary financing.
h/t Wallstreetmane
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Does Germany want a Euro at this point, is the question.
Verpiss dich Draghi!
I'm guessing jack.....do I win something?
Greece is close to leave the Euro. Spain is suffering the consequences of the absence of monetary policy (will be missing the old "Peseta"?). Italy is being forced to pay more for daily funding. The austerity measures of these countries, without help from monetary policy, will make very difficult the economic recovery. The Euro is in danger.
Thank you for that report Capt. Obvious.
Every time I see these ugly Euro notes in my wallett I need to vommit!
You can give them to me.
buy gold! ... (and learn to spell)
"you go with the euro you got."
Its more of the peripheral elites wanting the Euro me thinks.
Germany (whoever Germany is /was) is using these weak corrupt domestic elites as a tool of extraction.
Although most of the serfs simply don't understand the nature of the Euro - (it can only grow by increasing private debt)
The post 1987 nightmare EMU world feels like a car crash to most - in fact it was a car bomb but they dare not tell them for fear of......
At least the poor saps got to drive a BMW before it all ended.
noone asked the Germans before if they wanted the Euro; why would anyone ask them now?
The Euro was shoved down the Germans' throats. Why would anything be different now? They swallowed before...
My words move markets Bitchezz!!!
Taking cover as we speak....thanks for the warning.
Versager!
Read my lips...we've heard that before !
Right????
Absolutely perfect response to today's lunacy. Thanks, Tyler.
another pathetic bot-induced move in the "market" :yawn:
This alchemist Draghi is a nuisance to society. We are all better of reading THE ALCHEMIST by Pablo Coelho.
These bankers and politicians are just fixated on saving the bacon of debt holders so that they can maintain their control of miserable debt laden people.
Why don't they track down that undelared 21 trillion dollars in various havens, freeze it and then use it to buy back the freedom of debt slaves.
"We are all better of reading THE ALCHEMIST by Pablo Coelho."
Or even better , listen to THE ALCHEMIST by Iron Maiden.
"we have a treaty" ......."this treaty".... "the treaty".... It sounds like he is saying "this treaty is shackling my hands" Kind of like Bush's comment about the constitution " it's just a g*#damn piece of paper".
Here is the awesome part. Draghi is laying the groundwork to dilute the shit out of the euro and the euro is rising on this news. If Bernanke wants a weak dollar he better not do QE3.
It could be argued he...and the other Mario's I might add (lotta financial positions of power among them right now) are trying to rationalize the debts markets. VERY risky...
The Italian Stock Market is almost 3% up. Draghi's announcement must sound really good in Italian. Maybe language is the problem and not economics.
Geez, Fonzie, does anyone really think the Dollar is strong?
All we are seeing is the Greenback & the Euro falling in lock-step. The only thing the Euro could be strong against is the USD, and vice-versa. Of course, today, only Chinese money is worth much, and even they are living in fantasyland.
Without cheap energy, economic growth is a myth. Welcome to Never Never.
Craig
National sovereignty is so overrated
/s
So please explain how the significant debt, unemployment and social upheavel could be resolved if Europe was under one government. Before answering please tell me why a Federal Government for the USA has not worked wonders.
/s = sarcasm.
The only sovereignty I like and find truly legitimate is individual sovereignty.
My friend, thank you for the reply. The /s symbol is new to me. :)
Why if they were to Federalize then the centralized powers could change the Treaty, allow for unlimited printing, spread the pain and tell the people to do whatever the fuck they want them to do.
It is so much better for those in power! For the people not so much. They are going to get fucked either way. None are as rich as they believe and almost everyone will be at a lower standard of living. The winners of course will be the bureaucrats. Everyone else is fucked.
One word, Panic!
Stop at apprehension.......we can always panic later.
Draghi forcing cramdown on bondholders??? Either in a million years or when Hell freezes over, whichever comes first. Cramming down bondholders would mean the fat cats also have to take responsibility for their actions/investments. People like Christine Lagarde and ZH's Tyler Durden would never stand for it. In their opinion eating shit is exclusively for retail investors. And that after all the 2+ years work Durden and Sprott have done selling them gold?? Holy Guacamole!!!!
What the F is going on with XOM? The media is reporting it as the biggest earnings beat in stock market history, The stock looks like it's going nowhere...
Summits, Pledges, CB's oh my.
Of course Draghi is going to "pledge" to save the EURO. Without it he is unemployed, if only for a brief period ;)
zeeee price stability.
Lizzy, where did you learn about the world of finance, "Louisiana Vo-Tech School for Tattooed Hoes"??? The only thing Draghi needs worry/fear is if Goldman Sachs didn't employ an intern to keep his seat warm while he was gone.
Hey, she has a BS not some crummy useless tech school degree in tattooed hoes so back off my girl.
Hasn't the ECB been moentizing sovereign debt this whole time?
... definately ... but italian synergies even better - Mario forced Mario to load the junk into the italian banks as collateral .
Unicredit, Intesa San Paolo & Mediobanca ready to blow .
Countries around the world are taking on more debt without any fruitful attempts to curb their expenditures. This has resulted in a much more fragile and artificially held up financial system which is on a much shaky ground than it was in 2008. In 2008 companies failed due to excessive leverage and debt and now countries are likely to default because they took on the same bad debt on themselves. The borrowing costs or bond yields for these countries are again at record highs for the year due to their deteriorating financial condition.
A single currency for an economy as strong as Germany on one hand and relatively weaker economies like Greece or Ireland on the other is not sustainable in the long run. The idea of the stronger countries in the Euro zone to keep on bailing out the weaker ones repeatedly will be a difficult one to sell to the citizens of the economically stronger countries. Their is no practical way to save the Euro, the only thing that the politicians can do is to lavishly spend tax payers money towards bailouts which creates a much bigger crises a few months down the line but does not solve anything.
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article35345.html
Any time spainish bond yields hold above 7% and the eurusd gets too close to $1.20 they juice it with a jawboning. This was predictable.
Zee Treaty and Zee price stability.
Neither is a subsitute for the 2-3 Trillion Euros necessary to save the EZ.
But when one can't do MATH one can only fall back on a pledge and a summit.
Hail Draghi. His words have ignited European stock markets and they are now rising strongly. The grateful dogs of Pavlov are salivating but soon they will realise that Draghi is nothing better than a fart in a bottle.
I think it is safe to state the following: Today, Drarhgi PANICED :)
Panicked even
Compare european markets to US markets: in the US, a simple hint that Hilsenworth might write "something" an hour from now is enough to send the DOW up 1%. In Europe, Draghi actually has to show up and say a few empty words before the EU exchanges react. In summary, the US has highly trained dogs, and Europe only has trained dogs.
This Draghi thingie has pushed the markets up and brought down the rates of Spain and Italy.
What does this prove?
It doesn't prove that the Euro is now safer. It DOES PROVE that this play on Spanish rates is TOTALLY speculative.
The vulture funds got scared away, thats what this proves!
This whole shit scam of a market is there to fleece the people. Period. Draghi shows up in this knee jerk the greedy, panicky nature of speculative plays by blind mice who don't know were to put their hot money.
Without these vulture markets the world would be better off.
Its time to kill this pretence of rational markets and call it what it is : predatory capitalism and all these guys deserve to burn in hell.
The big issue is sovereign bond yields in club med; if the banking licence helps the ESM to get round the interdiction of direct lending by ECB to sovereings via euro bonds that might paper over the fact that "officially" the ECB does not have the mandate to eurobond, as long as fiscal unity is NOT there in WHOLE eurozone. And it won't be before 2014 earliest, if at all!
This is all temp measures and it looks like too little and too late. So its can kicking as best.
We will get a clearer picture on how MErkel negotiates past the Karlsruhe Supreme court decision and how the ESM, if it flies, is structured. In the meantime...Spain and Italy pray....and Soros is like Mount Etna ready to smoke Armageddon if he feels its time to make the big move on Euro.
Here is the gist of his current statement today in French :
Son intervention pourrait aussi passer par l'octroi d'une licence bancaire au futur fonds de secours européen MES, comme l'avait évoqué la veille Ewald Nowotny, président de la banque centrale d'Autriche et à ce titre membre du conseil des gouverneurs de la BCE.
"Il y a des arguments favorables" à l'octroi de cette licence bancaire, a-t-il, ce qui permettrait au MES d'emprunter auprès de la BCE et d'augmenter ainsi considérablement sa force de frappe fixée actuellement à 500 milliards d'euros.
Or le MES est autorisé à acheter des obligations publiques des Etats de la zone euro en cas de nécessité. C'est aussi le cas du fonds actuellement en place, le FESF, dont les statuts prévoient qu'il puisse intervenir sur le marché secondaire de la dette, après toutefois un feu vert d'une commission budgétaire des députés allemands.
...The ESM would lend directly, as the EFSF does today subject to agreement by the budgetry commission of the German Parliament...his concluding remark.
In a market with many reasons for the decline, they have to keep the shorts nervous. If the shorts were able to sell the market without any fear, this market would collapse. Think about how many times the market ripped higher in '08 before plunging days later. They have to keep the headline risk of a market ramp firmly in the mind of the short sellers. Remember one of Bernanke's only tools left, communication...
Do thier words move markets or do they use words as cover for thier manipulation of the market?
There were too many bearish charts posted over the past 2 days so a squeeze doesn't surprise me.
May be they wanted to pump up weak European stocks before dumping them all together with the Dow . Eropean stocks are at all time lows, but American ones are a lot higher. European Markets will not be able to afford a plunge of the Dow (or sp500), from these already minimum levels.
Smells like pump and dump to me.
Sounds like desperate words, from a desperate man.
He can't do squat. The overreaction in Europe is due to pure investor desparation ... and panic.
http://confoundedinterest.wordpress.com/2012/07/26/rudderless-economy-durable-goods-ex-air-fall-1-1-jobless-claims-volatile/
Oh guys, and what would ever happen if the ECB wuold find a way to work just ad the Fed and the BoE? what would happen if the Ecb would be allowed to print money straight to governements? The article seems to rely on self imposed limits to say that fate can't be changed, but self imposed limits can always be removed at the right moment, and debt in the whole Europe to be repaid are still a lot less than the US.
I think nobody can really think that Europe will destroy its economies and an idea of unity, just because of a treaty signed in booming years....they spent decades to write that europe had to be less fragmented to survive, and now the same people advocate european prticularism as the panacea for all problems.Come on! Everything you read here tells about fear, a big fear
the problem resides in people's twisted views of money.
http://expose2.wordpress.com/2011/11/20/a-voice-from-the-dark/
Debt is not a fear---it is a hope that someone else in the future will pay the debt. We are debt ridden society but alas full of hope and optimism---until the collapse
we are plenty of debts and even more of doubts. The main problem won't be the existent and official debt of the West, enough to kill a couple of generations, but that myriad of private hidden debts, alghorytmic bets, nicely known as Cds, and they're a lot more than any public debt we know today. There will be the fall, and the fall of the currency they have been signed with.