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And For Today's Most Shocking Headline We Have...
Fresh out of the flashing red headline-a-tron:
- IMF OFFICIALS SAY GREECE WILL NEED A THIRD BAILOUT
- IMF SAYS GREECE CAN'T FILL FUNDING GAP ON ITS OWN, UP TO EUROZONE AND ECB TO FIND MONEY FOR GREECE
- GREECE MET ONLY 22% OF PROGRAM TARGETS FOR 2011
- EURO EXIT WOULD SET GREECE BACK BY MANY DECADES
Nobody, NOBODY, could have anticipated that fighting record debt with recorder debt, could possibly fail. And cue Germany telling Greece the party is now over, which, is what (a sliding EURUSD for those confused) it has wanted all along.
So much for the stabeeleetee.
From Dow Jones:
Greece will need a third bailout package from the euro zone, and the country's European creditors will have to find the money for it, according to a senior International Monetary Fund official.
"Greece will require additional financing, which may take the form either of official-sector involvement or of additional loans, hopefully on more favorable terms," Thanos Catsambas, an IMF alternate executive director, who represents Greece at the Fund's board, said in an interview.
Mr. Catsambas is an IMF veteran with experience of Fund programs in Europe, Asia, Latin America and the Middle East. In his current position, he has knowledge of the continuing negotiations between Greece and its troika of creditors—the IMF, the European Union and the European Central Bank.
Troika representatives are currently in Athens to assess Greece's situation and the possible disbursement of a €31 billion ($39.99 billion) loan, part of a second bailout package that totaled €173 billion. The payment is imperative for the Greek government to avoid running out of cash, but officials now suggest they don't expect a final decision on how to proceed with Greece until November.
The coalition government of Prime Minister Antonis Samaras is facing growing public anger as it is tries to revive delayed structural reforms and implement fresh cutbacks of around €11.5 billion over the next two years.
The creditors are unanimous that this is Athens' last chance if the financing is to continue. Without the loan payment, the government would run out of cash in a matter of weeks and would have to find new ways of meeting its current obligations, such as pensions and public-sector wages. In an extreme scenario, this may require leaving the euro zone and printing a new currency.
Mr. Catsambas called this last option "an undesirable eventuality that will set the country back many decades."
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Mr. Catsambas insisted that it should be the euro zone and ECB that take the strain of filling the rest of the gap.
"Extension of repayment of the IMF [part of] loans is impossible as all terms and conditions of IMF loans to all countries are based on rules that are not negotiable," he said. The failure of Greece to implement its agreements, and the lack of a sustainable debt trajectory, make it impossible for the IMF, under its own charter, to lend any more.
Mr. Catsambas said that the previous coalition government under Lucas Papademos, who took over from George Papandreou in November last year, estimated that "only 22% of the commitments under the troika-supported program were implemented" in 2011. Mr. Catsambas noted that the public sector still needs to be shrunk as a result.
Goodbye 8 day Greek work week. Here comes the 9 day work week.
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OK. I got the top comment. What do I do with it now?
You could have said Fuck you Bernanke!
Or something with "bitchez."
Fuck you Bernanke, Bitchez. How's that?
Fuck Bernanke and his Bitchez.. Bitchezz!!!!!
Stuck the landing.
Anybody Wanna Sell Me A Top Comment Spot ???
Greeks Should Just Return To The Stone Age,
It's Better Than What They Have Now...
Penalty on the play......10 yards for answering yourself.
gold, bitchez!
[it's the new black]
Greek National Anthem: "We Don't Need Another Gyro" by Tina Turner
This is absolutely the last time that Greece will ever need to borrow even a fiver from the IMF/ECB/pensioners/bum on the corner with his cup full of coins/cash for gold pawnshop/anyone else. They are now on double secret probation with the IMF. Dude, I've got an uncle like Greece. It never fucking stops until you say, "Enough!"
I feel like bitchez ought to be in here someplace. "Enough, bitchez!" maybe. Somebody help me out. All I need is one piece of advice. I promise I'll never ask for another...until next time.
We're all Greek Keynesians now, bitchez.
Not until Greece`s creditors say "OUR gold, bitchez!" will the Groundhog Day curse be broken...
Soon the statement will be "the bitchez are fucking Bernanke"
All of your bailouts are belong to us! Bitchezzz!
Like unlimited bitchez ?
So why doesn't the IMF just bail them out? The US can afford it.
Please don't bother Ben Shalom.....or Greece is going to have to bail us out.
because The Machine wants their gold, islands, and throw in the Parthenon for good measure.....then we can talk about it.
Two questions:
1. Anybody heard anything from the U.S. Embassy in Greece lately?
2. Are Greeks Arabs?
They are fairly hirsute either way.
Retarded Comment, retarded nickname...
No mention of The Inflation Tax
IMF says stfu and just buy aapl
The trend is indeed your friend, but trees don't grow to the sky, not even AAPL trees.
Oh yes they can. keep printing Benny boy and aapl will get it's 1k target by January.
Nominally speaking, you are correct. But in your scenario the AAPL tree is not growing. It is the unit of measurement that is shrinking.
http://economics.about.com/cs/macrohelp/a/nominal_vs_real.htm
And some people like that...my dick is at least 100 billion Zimbabwe dollars long!!!!!!
Rules, bitchez. IMF says their rules are not negotiable and that their charter won't allow them to help the greeks anymore [since they can't ever payback or do the things IMF rules require].
The IMF, WORLD BANK, FED, ECB AND THE UNITED NATIONS need to be disassembled, either slowly and methodically, or very rapidly in one big Bang. The countries of the world would be much better without them.
The time has come to frie those olives.
What? Why would ya write such a thing?
Bernanke is my frienemie. He is yours too. He is going to make you a Zillionaire. Everyone is gonna be a Zillionaire 'cause of Bernanke.
Just buy Gold. Don't ya worry none...He will take the wealth from the public and Wall Street fraudsters and hand it to you 'cause you were a Yogi...not a Muppet...and smarter than the average bear...when you bought yer Gold.
Post something pithy?
Good idea......if they don't like it....at least it won't take much time.
You could write something like "Fuck you, Christine!" or "I did not see that coming!".
btw: I like that expression "recorder debt"!
Thats recorder debt, timbo.
How about "Who could've imagined planes hitting a sky-scraper!?"
Or "who could've imagined planes hitting sky-scrapers full o thermite"?
The Euro will be stronger without greece in it so it will rally and the USD will fall....in other words BTFD
Wrong. Greece is representative of what is to come of Spain. Should we then also expect the Euro to rally when Spain fails and needs a bailout? I think not.
Fail apparently.
OK. I got the top comment. What do I do with it now?
You should have given it to me Bro and I would have said... Moar grease for Greece Bitchezz!!!!
I plan to celebrate your success by staring at your avatar for a little while.
Show us your tits.
Sell it to an advertiser for gold or fiat. Your choice. Phoenix Capital will buy it.
Just get out.....while you still have the option.
I look for red arrows , but if you had nothing to say , showing your boobs could have gotten you more arrows.
what would Cicero do?
How about "Greece, sliding down the Troika's pole"? Because that's exactly what's been happening.
Unfortunately, once they refuse to pay, it will be the Troika taking it up the ass!
Then you'll really see the face of surprise.
They should have gone "Iceland" long ago.
The ten year's really picking up some steam right now..
EDIT: http://blog.quantsig.net/2012/09/13/us-paper/
Perceived safehavens, bitchez.
Who's gonna pay for it? Entschuldige . . . ich meinte wer wird dafür das bezahlen?
Dont worry, whoever pays for it, it will be capped to EUR 190 Billion...
And then... EU will have its own version of "US debt ceiling" drama.
'Heard its really popular in US.
lol I can see it now;
Angela; "Um . . . . also, tut mir leid, aber ich brauche noch ein 190€Millarden mehr."
CDU/CSU+SPD+Grüne "Woohoo! Wir leben die EuroZone."
FDP "Scheiß drauf."
Linke "Ich bin am Ende"
"Das ist sehr gut... Ich kommen aussi!"
The tooth fairy, and Santa Claus, if you believe Bernanke, Krugman, and their cronies.
Anyone have one of those interactive maps from 1933-1945 of Europe ... where it shows German influence spreading.
Yeah ...
SHOCKED AND AWED
No mention of the need for 4th and 5th bailout.
I say they go with open ended bailout much like today's QE.
Awesome all around.
the unemployment should stop
.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
What about Spain, how much would they have met?
Spain, if you believe bond yields actually reflect risk (bwahahaha), has been solved.
I just have to rehearse that another 5 or 6 times, and I might be able to say it with a straight face.
But Greek bonds have done so well that last few months....they met only 20% of what they said they were going to do....to me that is a big miss...and a big fuck you moment to whomever thinks they will restructure....so you either give me the money...or you don´t...
B-b-but they said a third bailout wouldn't never even be a consideration.
Do you mean to tell me they intentionally lie?
in the meantime:
BREAKING: ATM’s in Portugal not working Posted on September 13, 2012 by maxkeiser| 15 Comments
No worries Benny B has your money. No problem.
First comes the rush from heroin, then the rush to digital cash, then the rush to physical cash, then the rush to PMs, then the rush to anything physical, then the rush to Smith & Wesson.
Americans "opting out" of banks:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/more-americans-opting-out...
Another reason why digital currency falls flat, and why the PTB are salivating to implement it.
The bank run is the ultimate enemy of the fractional reserve banker.
Digital currency will do away with that.
pods
Sorry Max, it's got nothing to do with Portugal. Apparently Gilbert Gottfried stole your identity and max'd out all your cards.
Euro exit would set Greece back by many decades? WTF do you think you're doing to them now?!
Other than rubbish cars, clothing, and hair the 70s weren't so bad. Good music . . .
If I were Greece, I'd aim for a 270 decade setback, so I could get back to my prime.
Hey doc just a few hours till you wave the white flag..........
I hear you kito... This mid east turmoil is something else....one might think it was part of a plan.
Looks like the needed excuse for Spanish and Italian bailouts to commence is almost upon us.
Rajoy and Monti can then blame the Greeks for their U-turn on the need for bailouts. They will have political cover they need then.
EURO EXIT WOULD SET GREECE BACK BY MANY DECADES
Bullshit we can not believe in.
EURO EXIT WOULD SET GREEK BONDHOLDERS BACK BY MANY DECADES
fixed that for you.
much like Greece, you can pay me later.
Luckily, Mr. Rajoy is convinced that Spain will need no bailout.
Well, beyond the banks. And, the provences.
Think that is "recorder'er" Tyler.
Too funky for that...it's the Recordist!
The final vinyl!
Spinning the (debt) platter that matters!
The EU disco-mix disc to end all risk!
The 10 inch liquidity injection for economic resurection!
Uh...or just playing a broken record.
November 7, dammit Greece... KEEP IT TOGETHER!!!!
Apparently market participants believe the Fed is bigger than the whole world. You could have a Nuclear winter and these 12 bankers would still be scheming about how they can add ten points to the spoos everyday.
they made a deal with the devil, Mephistopholes, for money. Printing money is akin to the spirt of the Devil, the Father of lies. Soon enough, all fiat currency holders will realize their currency too was a lie.
oh don't worry, the insiders will cash out before then
it'll only be the proles losing all their money, and they can't afford their own politician, so who cares?
Does anybody believe that those German tossers in the Bundestag have the guts to tell the Greeks the party is now over? Be realistic. Germans taxpayers should learn to enjoy being screwed.
German Sauerkraut tossers? Is that how they roll?
does this mean that the Greeks aint got no money???
somebody help me out.....
Ich werde sie gerne bezahlen Dienstag für eine hampburger heute
RIP, Greece.....We will ALL join you soon...and may we all find sanity.
fucking-a
No, they can now get unlimited funds with no strings attached from the EMF and eat Lamb all day long.
Greece has no oil.
They import 400,000 barrels per day to run the trucks that deliver food and power all transport that defines society.
Greece imports every drop. They have no oil. They have no hope digging out of that hole. At $120/barrel brent prices it's 48 million dollars a day flowing out of the country.
This is $17 billion per year. GDP is $295ish billion. Oil extracts nearly 6% of GDP out of the country per year.
There is no fix for this. They are doomed.
???
sales tax in the EU is around 20%.
6% is nothing.
Tax funds the EU.
Oil funds oil producers entirely unconnected to Greece. It's a complete drain.
So Greek Exit would set them back many decades.....as oppossed to now?
IMF what a fucking joke......They projected that 2012 Greek GDP would be -1% with actual growth in H2 2012.
Dear Greeks:
Since you are having financial difficulties I hereby make you the following offer:
The Acropolis - $1000.00 US
The Palace of the Grand Master - $500.00 US
Olympia - $250.00
Hadrian's Arch - $75.00
The Theatre of Dionysos - $347.88
The Island of Delos - $1236.91
I am willing to pay you the above, in US cash, for title to these items. I could give you two ounces of gold as an option. Best part is unlike others who want to take these from you I will lease them back to your govt at a low amount of $10,000,000 USD per year for the next 99 years and you can maintain control and operation of said landmarks. After the 99 year lease I will transfer title back to you, in full, for just $1 !!! What a deal!
I know you are interested so please contact me and I will have my attorney prepare the necessary paperwork and payment.
I am here to help.
Best of wishes from your American Friend,
SilverTard
You could buy them on the cheap, and then they could pass a law to tax you 100 trillion euro on the property, and pass the buck on their debt problems once and for all.
That risk can be largely mitigated, that`s why good international investment lawyers who understand non-financial risk are actually worth their 4-figure hourly charge...
The timing of this farcical statement is quite incredibly coincidental, im sure.
EURO EXIT WOULD SET GREECE BACK BY MANY DECADES
I find this bullet point from the splash page summary ammusing. "Back"? Back from where, extactly? Isn't the first step admitting you have a problem? Isn't the second step admitting you are powerless over the problem?
"GREECE MET ONLY 22% OF PROGRAM TARGETS FOR 2011"
11% for 2012?
GREECE IMPROVES YOY 100% ON REACHING VIABILITY TARGETS; ECB CONSIDERS RELAXING RESTRICTIONS
We should really create a game where headlines are given the 2+2=5 treatment.
no, no, no, that can't be right. That network on the TV told me Greece was fixed and the iPhone5 will add at least 4.5 points to global GDP.
And don't forget, the iPhone5 is more nutritious than the iPad. All is well with the world.
The truly scary thing that of course everyone knows except the stock market is that you will see all these same headlines for Spain next year and Italy in 2014...as H Ross Perot would say..."Do you hear that giant flushing sound"
Hugh Hendry: "I would recommend you panic"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuysYXlJ43I
Love that clip. I would recommend it to anyone who hasn't seen it yet.
A few weeks ago i happened to see an episode of Danger Man, a 1960s TV series about a Greece-like country scamming the IMF. How prescient lol
I´m shocked....SHOCKED!
:/
EXpected.
"only 22% of the commitments under the troika-supported program were implemented"
Good thing Greece is being graded on a curve in a no-fail course. "A" for participation.
"IMF OFFICIALS SAY GREECE WILL NEED A THIRD BAILOUT"
Rinse and repeat for all the club-med countries.
Keep feeding at the Draghi bailout trough.
Draghi did say unlimited and he will not let the Euro union fail.....
Any surprise?
Wake me up before Europe slides into the abyss.
William Dudley New York Federal Reserve: "Let them eat iPods"
RUN PPI
http://chartistfriendfrompittsburgh.blogspot.com/2012/09/run-ppi.html
I think you could find a "dome top" at the bottom of a well.
Sorry, all I can do is laugh at this point. Hey German taxpayer, as a U.S. taxpayer I challenge you to race into poverty!
I'll take that.
First one to the bottom gets a bailout, looser has to start a war.
LMAO
Hard to believe that the monetary system in this world consists of trading fraudulently obtained promissary note 'money'?
Or that the corporate 'courts' are actually banks trading in negotiable securities such as 'appearance bonds'.
We've enslaved ourselves to a fiction?
Just ramblin'...
This is getting embarrassing.
Politicians will be politicians and that strange breed of politician with an unhealthy emotional attachment to ruling the entirety of Europe will never allow greece to exit, regardless of whether it's right or how much it costs. The feifdom be damned.
ATHENS--The European Investment Bank will pump up to 750 million euros ($966 million) into the crisis-hit Greek economy with immediate effect, the Greek finance ministry said Thursday.
The money, the agreement for which was signed earlier Thursday by EIB president Werner Hoyer during a visit to Athens and the Greek Finance Minister Yannis Stournaras, will be invested in various sectors such as energy, education, transport and small businesses.
Keep it coming.
German citizens, ever feel like it's the 1930's again and this time you have been taken over by the banksters instead of Hitler? Again you do nothing. Like sheep.
Their going to take you down to backup their bad bets.
If we had a party that didn't like this stupid Euro project, we would vote for it in droves . . . regrettably we don't. We get told by the shitheads running this place that we have some "historical obligation" to Europe. I say shit on the history.
Fully castrated then?
Dp. (Its not what you think, dirty boy)
You dont know what your talking about ive been paying my visa with my mastercard for years it works fine
Why don't they do what Illinois does? Just slow pay all of your bills.
I'll be glad when they're done with this Euro foolishness, and Germany gets back to conquering Europe the old-fashioned way.
Opa! Pass the ouzo!
Golden Dawn and Drachmas!
To hell with the Jewro and the Jewropean Union.
What a coincidence it is. Germany just approves bailout funds and Greece is right there...wanting another handout.
The funny part is that the debtor is controlling the creditor rather than the other way around. Oh...those who seek to control will be controlled. They both DESERVE IT.
So does the World when this House of Cards collapse. They could not wait for that Court "Ruling" yesterday. They already had the paperwork ready and tried to cut in line. Very clever. So if they said that they could not pay and DEFAULTED then the Euro goes down as other Member Nations will follow suit. The Euro is toast.
This just serves to punish the savers, the lenders, whom wanted them indebted in the first place.
NO SYMPATHY FOR ANY. Take NO prisoners.
BULLISH BITCHEZ!
Brainless liberal party leader Rutte (VVD, Holland) stated he will refuse more bail-outs to Greece.
(But what the liar is not saying is that ESM is already approved (unlimited bail-out by EU apparastki))
Fuck you Rutte!
The third bailout was when they raised the second from 120b to 178b, if I am not mistaken. :)
Please forward to Mr. Samaras the email you received from your good friend, the Nigerian banker who has access to gazillion euros of unclaimed deposits. Surely Mr. Samaras can use that as solid collateral against his next ECB loan.
Fire up the printing presses and solve this Greek Debt thing once and for all!
Are you proposing that the ECB should fire these up?
So... the final decision of the TROIKA will be delaid....forever...and funding will be on a roll over basis...forever..