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Anonymous Explains Why 2.7 Million Stratfor Emails Were Hacked

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Barrett Brown, who has taken on the (seemingly lucrative) role of the public face of hacker group Anonymous, best known recently for breaking into Stratfor's servers, speaks about the logic behind the hacking of 2.7 million email accounts which will likely very soon be made public, in addition to the tens of thousands of credit card numbers and full client details (including home addresses) of Stratfor clients that Anonymous has already released.  

From pastebin:

In the wake of the recent operation by which Stratfor's servers were compromised, much of the media has focused on the fact that some participants in the attack chose to use obtained customer credit card numbers to make donations to charitable causes. Although this aspect of the operation is indeed newsworthy, and, like all things, should be scrutinized and criticized as necessary, the original purpose and ultimate consequence of the operation has been largely ignored.

 

Stratfor was not breached in order to obtain customer credit card numbers, which the hackers in question could not have expected to be as easily obtainable as they were. Rather, the operation was pursued in order to obtain the 2.7 million e-mails that exist on the firm's servers. This wealth of data includes correspondence with untold thousands of contacts who have spoken to Stratfor's employees off the record over more than a decade. Many of those contacts work for major corporations within the intelligence and military contracting sectors, government agencies, and other institutions for which Anonymous and associated parties have developed an interest since February of 2011, when another hack against the intelligence contractor/security firm HBGary revealed, among many other things, a widespread conspiracy by the Justice Department, Bank of America, and other parties to attack and discredit Wikileaks and other activist groups. Since that time, many of us in the movement have dedicated our lives to investigating this state-corporate alliance against the free information movement. For this and other reasons, operations have been conducted against Booz Allen Hamilton, Unveillance, NATO, and other relevant institutions. The bulk of what we've uncovered thus far may be reviewed at a wiki maintained by my group Project PM, echelon2.org.

 

Although Stratfor is not necessarily among the parties at fault in the larger movement against transparency and individual liberty, it has long been a "subject of interest" in our necessary investigation. The e-mails obtained before Christmas Day will vastly improve our ability to continue that investigation and thereby bring to light other instances of corruption, crime, and deception on the part of certain powerful actors based in the U.S. and elsewhere. Unlike the various agents of the U.S. Government, the hacking team that obtained this information did not break down the doors of the target, point guns at children, and shoot down any dogs that might have been present; Anonymous does not resort to SWAT tactics, and this is simply one of many attributes that separate the movement from the governments that have sought to end our campaign and imprison our participants. Of course, such points as these will not prevent our movement from being subjected to harsher scrutiny than is given to those governments which are largely forgiven their more intrusive tactics by virtue of their status as de facto holders of power in a world that has long been governed in accordance with the dictate that might makes right.

 

Incidentally, many of us are more than happy to proceed according to that amoral dictate if we find it to be necessary. And, increasingly, we have found it to be so.

 

Barrett Brown

 

Project PM

 

irc.project-pm.org

 


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Tue, 12/27/2011 - 07:10 | Link to Comment Conrad Murray
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Metal Gear, bitchez.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 08:32 | Link to Comment Oh regional Indian
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This Anonymous crap might as well be called  Ananymouse.

Lot's of talk, probably a ton of profit, pay-offs etc.

And look, we take in whatever they say hook line and sinker. Talk abotu a dis-informers paradise.

This is not how disclosure happens. I smell a rat.

ori

kind of like this...

/of-leaking-wikis-and-true-lies/

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 09:29 | Link to Comment CPL
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Well, it's another group under the Anonymous umbrella called SWAG Sec that does this stuff.  Most of us just watch, hunt for information or provide tactical operational support. We are a secondary support system, nothing more, we make sure the information get out instead of staying hidden.  Occasionally we have to tame some of the more insane members that live on nothing but red bull and meth.

SWAG is slightly more aggressive, they want names and places to hunt tptb.  The financial stuff isn't that important to them, out of all the collected groups they are by far the hardest nihilists I've talked with.  They simply hate, and I mean HATE the powers that be.   It's a little disturbing if they roll through channel which is rare as most live online in deep web under TOR and a dozen proxies.

 

They are the equivalent of the troll under the bridge we are all warned about as children to not go near.  They have their fun but the intent is usually to escalate into something less than benign.  They are part of Anonymous as /b/rothers; feral, insane, a complete lack of a moral compass and they seem to be harder to kill than an NYC cockroach, but they have their roll to play starting next week.

 

 

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 10:27 | Link to Comment Rollerball
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" ... a complete lack of a moral compass ... "

Like the matrix machine(s) creating software viruses in order to create virus prevention/control software?

Yeah, what doesn't kill us makes us stronger, right?  Tell that to Bradley Manning.

But, thanks for the /r/evolutionary update Dr. Darwin. 

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 11:41 | Link to Comment CPL
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As I said, they are nihilists, they coined the term/meme "not a single fuck was given" and they truly believe it.

People have a strange concept of exactly who Anonymous is, but that's the point.  Most of it starts from the Chaos Computer club two+ decades ago.  If you were online and active in the BBS/FIDO universe and you pirated, you eventually bumped into one of them. Nice guys, you could swap tech ideas, hacking was closer to hardware level, occasionally someone would ask for a hand testing their system or software security.  Sometimes even played cards if the BBS in question had more than one dialup line.

The various chapters got setup across the planet in the early 90's and it's was mostly benign.  Then script kiddies showed up that wanted to act as the crowbars and swords of the groups because of guys like Kevin Mitnik.  Eventually the script kiddies of the 90's became fully grown SWAG Sec members. 

 

You have to understand most of them were pissed that we didn't pull the trigger for kicking over NYSE and NASDAQ, but from the tools we developed the lab results were not good and it would have be a complete bust as far as an OP goes.  Our estimations were 40% of the group would have been pulled into the drag net, in addition the banks were shit canning our inside guys in the banks.  Still doesn't change the fact that SWAG was pissed off.

Most members were fully aware that if we let them spin themselves into a core group, they would only feed on their own ideas, so most of the groups elected to ask them to stay.  Not to keep an eye on them, but to make sure once a member stopped being angry at the universe they had an online group to transition to.  It's a fairly cult like group and the membership in SWAG is diverse and global; versus the regional plain jane Anonymous groups, the OPs we take credit for reflect the members in the ranks.  We'll hunt child pervs, thieves, knock down scams, we do cooperate with the authorities on this as well.

However as of late, the pedo-ring in DC and hollywood was completely ignored.  This of course blostered the SWAG ranks and regular members are becoming increasingly annoyed with the "authorities" ignoring the detective work laid down by a lot of hard working people.  We're talking everything from photos, video, emails, letters, poloroids.  I understand that the package of evidence delivered to the MSM was just simply ignored. 

Can't see how a 56 year old congressman fucking a 5 year old girl, then an 8 year old boy, then a 10 year old boy can be ignored.  But that's the shape of things right now.  Fucking ridiculous, we had 34 members of congress stone cold with their dicks in kids, and it was completely ignored.  To be honest, I've though about joining but I am not done yet with regular background channels.  Until those are entirely closed I'm going to keep trucking.  Only place I seen anything on it was here and a couple of little back page blurbs in US news.

 

Otherwise all we can do is store it in the deep web and hide it until something happens that enables justice to be carried out, otherwise, we lose normal and peaceful people to the very seductive call of SWAG.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 11:58 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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tips [ at ] zerohedge.com?

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 12:09 | Link to Comment JW n FL
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Tyler can not release that kind of info.. JP Morgan would get mad at him!

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 12:21 | Link to Comment CPL
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I like this site MsCreant, if the MSM doesn't pick up a story and it's out of bounds in terms of financial news, Zerohedge could quickly go down the Infowars path.  We have a our share of batshit crazy, but the site also attracts philiosophers, writers, business people, traders.  Besides if you posted the pedo ring stuff, the website would be shut down as everything abotu the situation and the content "obtained" from the ring itself is vile.

 

The Tylers and the readers here deserve ZH, myself included in that.  Anonymous will keep shoving it down MSM mouths until we find someone that's pissed and prints it all over the front page.  The human condition is fairly predictable and finding someone with a grudge in the MSM will eventually pay off by the power of large numbers.

 

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 12:33 | Link to Comment Cistercian
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The kiddie abuse by the congress members is used to blackmail them by really evil people, the ones who actually run the country.They kill anyone who screws up their plans....asap.I can't emphasize strongly enough how dangerous those bastards are....you would have to not exist to reveal them safely.

  I support efforts to unmask them of course.But calling them dangerous is the understatement of the century.They are EVIL.

 

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 13:00 | Link to Comment eureka
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Cistercian -  and who are they - these evil fucks?

Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, Hank Paulsen, Jamie Dimon, Rockefellers, Rothschilds, Bushes, CIA, Mossad, FNI, HomeLand Security... who who who - a lot here on zerohedge hint that they know, but no one ever provides even a short list or any real evidence.... why... to seem mysterious.... or because it's all fantacy and the very greedy and thus very rich & very evil are really not conspiratorially aligned, but rather synergistically so...?

Or - do they swear allegiance to their old boy networks - when they get inculcated at the Ivy Leagues.... their Skull & Bones and other fratboy networks... - and do those oats of allegiance supercede and wipe out all other allegiances, such as those to their nation, their people, and to principles of justice & freedom for all....?

Who are they?

Stop with the "secrecy", the "mystery", the hints and conspiracy theories - smack the evidence on the table or shut up  - or be known to rational readers as conspiracy morons.

I personally have no doubt that the people I mention above are ultra-selfish and immoral cocksuckers - and the funny thing is that the eidence is in the MSM - clear to anyone to read - and obviously the list of evil cocksuckers goes on and on in the US Empire - as anyone can read in MSM articles and books by people like William Black, Jeremy Scahill, Matt Taibi etc etc etc.

However - it is also obvious to me that if any zerohedge reader and or Anonymous or Swag or whomever and whatever groups have any real evidence of specific crimes and evil by US Congress Members and or oligarchs and any of their legions of henchmen - you guys need to provid the evidence - just like Black, Scahil, Taibi et al keeps providing theirs. If you can't or won't - you are morons or trolls.

Bring it on - put it on the table - no more fucking babble from you conspiracy theorists - or shut the fuck up.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 13:15 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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Give it to Matt Taibbi at Rolling Stone, what a great idea!


Tue, 12/27/2011 - 13:33 | Link to Comment CPL
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That is a good idea actually.  He's proven himself as reliable and honest.  We were looking for Paul M. Rodrigez from the original Boys Town DC pedo ring since he broke the story in the Washington Post 1989 but we can't find him.  Only records of him left are a handful of scanned front pages from the original DC pedo-ring.

 

But Matt Taibbi is veritably alive and kicking at Rolling Stone and has experience with dealing with government agencies acting baddy.

 

 

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:00 | Link to Comment Cistercian
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This would not be the first time such crimes have surfaced.Google the Franklin cover up and conspiracy of silence about boys town.

  The story is instructive, to say the least.I really liked the plane crash and attacks and bullying of the witnesses in particular.

 But I still am no closer to seeing who exactly pulled the strings....which is kind of the point in a cover-up.

 Saying that posting evidence is dangerous should be apparent.

 I hope it gets posted.

 Soon.

 

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:03 | Link to Comment CPL
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...and that is exactly why it's ignored.  The fear of Boys Town part 2 reprisals.

 

Except now it's perfectly legal to make someone disappear with the NDAA, we were attempting to get it out before the legislation passed.  SOPA doesn't help either.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 18:39 | Link to Comment swani
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I find this hard to believe, not that there are pedophiles in positions of power, or that they have gotten away with it because they are powerful, I just find it hard to believe that there are people who are supposedly on the side of the 'good', who are in possession of such a smoking gun.

How would these 'activists' have gotten these photos? How do they know that they are real? 

If the MSM are really in possession of un-doctored photos of Congresspeople having sex with children and they have chosen to ignore this, those people would know that if this ever got out, they would be guilty of child endangerment and the reputation of these 'news' organisations would be seriously compromised. 

Wouldn't they try to spin the story instead?

 And while I would put nothing past the MSM, there are human beings working there, most of them have children, and very few people would want to be complicit in the harming of children. Wouldn't someone somewhere, have leaked this information to someone at RT, Press TV, or somewhere else? Wouldn't they have, at least, sent these photos to Alex Jones or Benjamin Fulford, even Anne Barnhart? 

And wouldn't the 'activists' have started, or contacted other groups, like Mothers Against Pedophiles for example, to start a Truth movement about this, like the Architects and Engineers for September 11th Truth? 

I just don't understand how people could possibly possess this kind of 'evidence' and not know how to get it out to as many people as possible. I mean there are so many ways, and if all of those fail, there are always the enemies of your enemies. They could have gotten them to Hugo Chavez for God Sakes! 

 

 

 

 

 

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 21:30 | Link to Comment AnonymousAnarchist
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The doc that was mentioned earlier in this thread...

Conspiracy of Silence (Banned Discovery Channel Documentary).

"Conspiracy of Silence" is a powerful, disturbing documentary revealing a nationwide child abuse and pedophilia ring that leads to the highest levels of government. Featuring intrepid investigator John DeCamp, a highly decorated Vietnam war veteran and 16-year Nebraska state senator, "Conspiracy of Silence" reveals how rogue elements at all levels of government have been involved in systematic child abuse and pedophilia to feed the base desires of key politicians.

So why have you never heard of the Franklin cover-up? Originally scheduled to air in May of 1994 on the Discovery Channel, "Conspiracy of Silence" was yanked at the last minute due to formidable pressure applied by top politicians. Some very powerful people did not want you to watch this documentary.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:40 | Link to Comment Malachi Constant
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I -1'ed your comment, because of propaganda of panic.

how dangerous these bastards are ... They are EVIL.

No they are not. They are as human as the next guy. You want to paint them as undefeatable, but they are not.

Look at what's going on a boxing ring. Instead of hanging heads in pessimism, we should look for vulnerabilities and stay positive. Size does not matter - determination does.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 12:35 | Link to Comment Waffen
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Bullshit. If there are pictures, all need be done I post them on some image boards. Hell make some zip files and put them on mega download.

If they do exist it's your duty to get them inp the public record.

Give them to Alex jones for example.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 13:35 | Link to Comment CPL
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That's where the stuff started from.  A image board picture surfaced, someone recognized a face, screenshotted, then all hell broke lose.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 13:49 | Link to Comment CPL
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By image board I mean Onionchan.  Not the Orgs.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 12:56 | Link to Comment I did it by Occident
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but that would completely discredit our fine institution (congress)! 

 Oh, wait, they are already discredited.  But what you describe would discredit it to the nth degree.  The approval rate of congress is 11%.  I wonder how low it has to go before they lose auctoritas patrum and thus legitimacy to rule.  Then things will really get interesting.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 13:58 | Link to Comment CPL
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You see the issue then.

 

This is about damage control and I'm not talking political capital.  The original boys town pedo-ring in DC made a lot of people vanish, now it's story that has vanished except for the handful of wackadoo christains that own the original scans from the news papers.  Only place it exists in anyway shape or form is in the blog universe.

 

OWS was difficult enough trying to keep people from bringing guns.   This...I dunno...it would turn a saint to sinner quickly enough.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 13:10 | Link to Comment Shizzmoney
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In short, someone will stop getting paid.

Appreciate all ya'll do.  It's nice to know that some hackers are on the people's side.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 13:22 | Link to Comment holdbuysell
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Thanks, CPL. Your posts make me think twice about movies such as The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo and the author's untimely death.

Wed, 12/28/2011 - 20:09 | Link to Comment Optimusprime
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Girl With Dragon Tattoo is unmitigated leftist bullshit from beginning to end.  Read Andrew Hamilton's reviews.

The rapes in Scandinavia are virtually 100% Brown-immigrant-rapes-white girl.  FACT.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 13:41 | Link to Comment chindit13
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What about going hardcopy?  Print papers and stuff them in those free newspaper mailboxes in every major city (even DC has them) that usually are just local real estate listings.  Metro stations are full of them.  The world will get out.  There is always a Woodward or Bernstein who isn't afraid to take on TPTB, either as a public service or ego gratification/awards....doesn't matter why.  I think the oft mentioned "threats" are more hyperbole than reality.  Woodward and Bernstein took down a sitting President and are still alive today to talk about it. 

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:00 | Link to Comment CPL
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Fingerprints/hair/spit on materials delivered, printers and photocopiers all have hidden serials burned into every document, prints and video copies as well.

 

Easier just putting a gun in one's mouth and pulling the trigger.  Faster too.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:17 | Link to Comment buyingsterling
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WHOA!

You've got pictures of 34 congressmen having sex with children? I don't doubt there are pedos in congress, but I think you're full of shit about having these pictures (by you I don't mean you personally, but the group). There are dozens of effective ways of getting this information into the public sphere. Send your pics to Tom Coburn, Pat Buchanan, Bay Buchanan, Alan Keyes(!), National Enquirer, Phyllis Schlafly, William Banzai, Tyler, etc. One will get it out. There's no reason aside from political calculation or blackmailing the pedos to hold this information. If you're doing that, your putting more kids at risk letting the pedos stay free.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 22:12 | Link to Comment robobbob
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So you're a player, and I'm nobody, so maybe you could explain it in smaller words.

We're out here with spitballs and plastic swords trying to take down giants. We start telling people about FEDs, CBs, TPTB, and the great Ponzi, and even if they don't look at you like you have three heads, and ask for evidence, you have to go into an eye glazing fifteen minute warm-up dissertation to just try to even explain it.

And you're sitting there armed with a neutron bomb?

Good god man. Do you realize what people went though at Omaha beach? Or Valley Forge? Or Selma? People have died for truth. Not for corruption. Not for a bunch of oligarchs. And sure as hell not for a bunch of pedi-freaks. What, you're going to wait until the internet kill switch is complete then decide to do something? Or is the plan to play the leverage game? If so, then you've already delivered one hell of a lever straight into the hands of the same damn corrupt incestuous deviants you're against. what do you think they're buying with that information?

The MSM might bury it, but there are just toooo many avenues on the internet. Words can be dismissed, but photos? they would be unstoppable. The MSM buried the "weiner" story, until people saw the offending "member" with their own eyes. And then, all the kings spinmeisters could'ld save him.

step up. push the button.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 19:26 | Link to Comment The Heart
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Well, with the fast growing traction getting efforts to RECALL ALL SENATORS AND CONGRESS that voted on the NDAA, it would be a good tip to the groups involved to expose.

http://www.ncsl.org/default.aspx?tabid=16581

http://goooh.com/home.aspx

http://jonathanturley.org/2011/12/26/montana-voters-move-to-recall-senat...

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 12:08 | Link to Comment Waffen
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If this is true, then there is no, I repeat no excuse to not release this to the public.

By keeping the records hidden while the "watchers" won't act on it, then you are just as to blame. Our libirties are being completely stripped from us and yet you et al do not expose it?

J'acusse!

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 12:31 | Link to Comment CPL
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It has been delivered, for over a year the OP has run.  If it's a bunch of suburban slobs, the MSM picks it up and delivers credit.  This one though...next to impossible...until we find someone that's pissed and is in a mood to commit career suicide.  and more than likely get black bagged.

 

There's even a article on ZH somewhere about it.

 

 

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 12:45 | Link to Comment Waffen
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I have never heard of it, and I troll the image boards. This means that the approach of the op is a ridiculous failure. It is not that difficult to spread something to the public. We all want justice, we just need the ammunition and y'all are falling in this regard.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 13:05 | Link to Comment eureka
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"the OP has run"

I dare you : I think you're a pretensious little knucklehead - or a troll/FBI/CIA.

"the OP has run" - give me a fucking break.

You think you're so cool, don't you?

I think you're ridiculous.

Who do you think you can impress with your secrecy?

Isn't secrecy what you villify - so why be play secret yourself?

Put up - or shut up.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 13:42 | Link to Comment CPL
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Get in channel junior.

 

Meet you on Onionchan.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 15:04 | Link to Comment eureka
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ever mysterious, huh - the onionchan front page looks like a stealth porn site - but suit yourself...

I think zerohedge is intended as a finance and finance related political philosophy site... i.e. a forum for rational arguments with zero hedges of mystery, secrecy, hinted but unstated insights and other assorted pretensions

like I said - put facts, analysis and argued opinions on the table - and take the nonsense elsewhere or be ignored and knwon as a cook

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 15:24 | Link to Comment CPL
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Still waiting for you to show up.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 15:48 | Link to Comment CPL
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Here's the address in case you misplaced it.

http://ci3hn2uzjw2wby3z.onion/

 

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 20:00 | Link to Comment eureka
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server not found

publish your info if you dare - and if not, don't dare publish it - don't publish that you have it.

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 13:35 | Link to Comment catacl1sm
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eureka, I think you need to be on TOR to get to .onion addreses. It doesn't work on the regularz old internetz.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 12:08 | Link to Comment JW n FL
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how many non-hackers are part of ANON?

how many non-hacking ANON members dont even realize they are part of the movement?

how many of us are there verse how many of them?

we out number them and their Police Forces.

we just havent figured it out yet.

we just arent motivted enough yet.

I have been waiting for the idiot police to fuck up and gun down a bunch of Children like the Amry Reserves did to the Kent State Students.

I am not alone in waiting for the Government to be so bold as to gun down peaceful children on my watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSU3zqLjXNA&feature=related

I am not the only Southern Man.. who would consider that the act to be the straw that broke the Governments back.

All out war between the Many and the Few is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much closer than anyone here wants to know.

here's a thought.. instead of the police chasing.. imagine the police being chased?

those Bunkers for the Government Lobby Whores are for a reason..

the math of We the People v thier Meter Maids Dressed Up Like Marines has NEVER been in thier favor.

Thusly! Bunkers were built!

and We the People are to fucking stuppid to chase the real people pulling the strings.. only those puppets in Washington DC will be chased down right? WRONG!

maybe the majority of idiots will be chasing T.V. Puppets.. But Not All People will be chasing thier tails.

The Many have Suffer at the Hand of thr Few for TOOOOOOOOOOOOO FUCKING LONG!

and pay back will be sooooo veryyyyy sweeeet.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 12:41 | Link to Comment eureka
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"we had 34 members of congress stone cold with their dicks in kids, and it was completely ignored"

I dare you and your friends to post your aledged evidence on your own websites - and provide links here and everywhere else you can think of - i.e. stop depending on MSM to distribute your info - i.e. stop being victims of MSM and TPTB.

I guarantee MSM will follow up on such proprietary postings. 

And to everyone else who reads zerohedge - AND keeps tapdancing around moral imperatives: who do you think makes you dance...? Evil is evil and must be destroyed - STOP TAPDANCING ALREADY!

Expose and destroy all evil - or be a moral tapdancer - i.e. a loser - i.e. complicit with evil.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 12:49 | Link to Comment Waffen
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I think he is full of shit. I do not doubt that such pictures exist to blackmail these guys. I just doubt their existence in the hands of anon. If they were they would have to be known by the non mainstream by now.

Smells like bullshit. So far hackers, wikileaks etc have delivered an apache shooting kids and that's it.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 13:28 | Link to Comment FeralSerf
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<<I guarantee MSM will follow up on such proprietary postings. >>

Nonsense!  Remember 9/11?  How much evidence has been sent to the MSM that has been ignored about the worst threat to Americans' freedoms?  People die from being whistleblowers nowadays.  They're not rewarded.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:21 | Link to Comment buyingsterling
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Bad example. The 'media' hasn't been preaching about how pure the people in congress are, so they don't have to look like hypocrites, like they do on 9.11.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 17:38 | Link to Comment Cathartes Aura
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"the media" deals in fluff - where's the reporting on the daily aerosoling of NATO country skies?  weather"men" have occasionally slipped up and mentioned it - where's the investigative story?  where's the reporting on GMO related health scares?  or even the percentages of GMO grains in the food supply?  where's the "media" reports about the new engineered super-flu about to be made known to the science boys?  where are the stories - which you can read online - about global biowarfare?

the "media" is cartoons for people who can't turn off the teevee, addicts.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:21 | Link to Comment CPL
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If you want to release it, then get your group together and we will hand it over and you may take full credit but make completely sure you know what you are asking for.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 15:13 | Link to Comment eureka
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CPL - are you talking to me?

If so - obviously I cannot know what I am "asking for" from you, because you are only hinting at what evidence you possess, of affairs that may be ancient - or do you have evidence of 30 plus current congress members engaging in pedophelia - and if so, why would you "hand it over" to an insignificant zerohedge reader when you could easily copy your info & evidence and mail it to all the world's biggest media outlets including those based in nations hostile to US dominance of their nations and cultures?

You make no sense what so ever. Gobble, gobble. Over and out.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 15:26 | Link to Comment CPL
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...then come into onion chan IRC and I'll give you the key and location.

 

You can have it, you seem to have a solid grasp of the situation and the minerals to execute the task.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 19:03 | Link to Comment eureka
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CPL - You persist in playing at once enlightened and ignorant.

If you are the carrier of secret knowledge why do you not have the courage to reveal it yourself ? 

Why do you want some else, who doesn't understand what you are talking about, because you speak in code and strange acronyms, to reveal your knowledge to the world?

You know the freedom-&-truth-loving axiom:  IF YOU WANT SOMETHING DONE WELL - DO IT YOURSELF !

You want the world to know what you know !

Why don't you follow the principle of truth you aledge to serve - publish the info you want the world to see? 

Why do you want an uninitiated third party to assume the risk of fulfilling your cause?

Can any man expect any respect and credibility from a veiled and cowardly stance?

Any further gobble gooble from you will remain unanswered - becuase it is revealed as nothing but such.

Wed, 12/28/2011 - 00:07 | Link to Comment Matte_Black
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I detect a distinct lack of minerals. The brother isn't lying. Learn to Tor and then learn to IRC. Google is your friend. Consider this a PSA. You might have to Google PSA too. amirite?

Wed, 12/28/2011 - 14:13 | Link to Comment Archduke
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To be really cynical, I would say the very fact these 34 representatives have a dark dossier

hanging over their heads like a damocles sword is the very reason they are still in power.

Imagine the leverage.  Nothing could trump that save maybe snuff films or spying for china.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 11:46 | Link to Comment JPM Hater001
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Viva le revolution!
Tue, 12/27/2011 - 12:30 | Link to Comment 12ToothAssassin
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Booz Allen doesnt get hacked by script kiddies. Anonymous is for real. Deal with it Bitchez!

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 11:52 | Link to Comment JW n FL
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#ANON has had enough.

It is over.

most people haven’t figured it out yet, but it is over.

people will be Jailed!

People will be Killed!

but the cause will march forward.

the reason being is.. there are more Anon's in the World than there are New York City Cockroaches!

We the People have had enough.

The World has had enough.

This shit will not continue!

The Many Shall Not Suffer for the Few!

and! the few shall pay.. so that no few ever again believe the penalty is worth the prize, if I have my way.

so!

Merry Fucking Christmas!

We are Legion!

We Never Forget!!

and We are coming.. so Expect! US!!

suckling from the Tax Tit will be missed I am sure!

the warm lazy feeling of just having to do nothing of any real consequence to over provide for You and Yours, those days are coming to an end.

and ALL! of you who turned a Blind Eye or Participated in the ongoing robbery of the Masses of We the People.. will be found.

those of you who sit on your hands.. hoping to be able to spend you ill gotten gains for participating in the robbery.. we will find you.

Those that have caused harm to the World, caused children to starve while food was destroyed to protect a computer generate pricing model number.. yeah I am looking forward to personally seeing you myself.

the reason I dont care who knows.. is I am not alone.. this is a wave spawned from the depths of the ocean and it simply will go over, under, around and inundate whatever it touches.. and no one can stop it.. not even an internet switch.

The People have suffered enough at the hand(s) of the few.

 

Happy New Year Bitchez!

 

Wed, 12/28/2011 - 03:23 | Link to Comment Cadavre
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How do we know Anonymous, or WikiLeaks (for dat matter mo-fo) are not cyber warfare psyops to nurture the police state goes viral syndrome? Ain't saying one way or another - maybe a lack of trust in anything is the endgame and this post simply affirms your humble narrator is a victim whose head trapped inside the mobius loop of an enormous Orwellian rat cage.

Maybe Wikileak got a tad too much over the brim of "hero worship ale" from the likes of Amy Goodman, Thom Harman  and Keith O-wanna-be-one-kanobe? Noting they ain't giving Anonymous any on air blow job (so maybe Anony is a-ok?).

Do we really need Anonymous or Leaks to execute the "take back".

We know dat DHS is the baddest assed internet copyright pirate in the whole of the USA (why ya spose they doing dat?). We know that the pushiest SOPA protagonists are the dress british think yiddish blood suckers of the hollywood elite.

Dear Abby: The question is how to determine friendly from friendly fire. Who is the really real real McCoy and who is a joy boy?

Stuff to consider:

Mesh Networks and Portable Wifi ISPs - when there is no doctor (PDF) - when there is no dentist (PDF) - how to disable Adobe JavaScript (this is how you eat most exploits) - teach brain police how to play polish roulette

 

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 16:00 | Link to Comment Random_Robert
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The first elemental rule of psychopathy:

Everyone is crazy, except you. 

The fact that someone feels that they have to hide, in order to fulfill their dream of exposing the lies of others, makes them no better.

Secrecy (in all forms) is the primary tool we use to attempt to elevate ourselves above others, to build pyramidal social and societal hierarchies that hide the basic fact that we are all born naked, cold, and in abject fear of the life changing event that just flushed us out of our quiet, warm, and comfortable universe...

I'd be willing to bet that the SWAG SEC members of Anonymous are all driven by the compulsive need to prove themselves as superior logic constructors/de-constructors to their peers...

What a sad, sad world to live in...

Self Superiority- the vestigial by-product of Darwinian law, and the first failing of all self aware human beings. 

 

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 13:01 | Link to Comment sgt_doom
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You are absolutely right, douchebagger also known as oh Regional Punjabi.

Disclosure occurs when the USA's previous president for eight years, Bush, didn't even make it through enlisted basic training, then is awarded officer rank by his daddy, and the present speaker of the house, Kim John Boehner, washes out of Navy basic training, then claims to have served in the military during Vietnam when he was first campaigning for the House of Representatives.

Disclosure occurs when the latest Wall Street stooge in the White House, Obama, stands before the American people and consistently proclaims that "the bankers didn't break any laws" --- when anyone with an IQ above a door knob very well realizes they have broken millions of laws and even those civil offenses they have committed, because they are on the level of hundreds of thousands to millions of conspired civil offenses (under UCC), constitute a massive criminal conspiracy!

And all the disclosure on the crimes of torture and warrantless wiretapping, which two-thirds of the American public wanted investigated (according to a 2009 USA Today/Gallup poll), but the present President Obama has refused to do!

What was that you were whining about disclosure, sonny?????

Your history lesson for the day.

1913: In that year, the year know as Rockefeller's Year, four pieces of fraud legislation were passed.

(1) The Aldrich Act, latter to be renamed the Federal Reserve Act (Sen. Aldrich had married into the Rockefeller family and was John D. Rockefeller's son-in-law) which set up 12 credit monopolies, the Federal Reserve System -- who created the money, then lent it to the US Treasury, thusly putting the American government and people in debt to the private banksters.  The private banks which own the Fed receive a guaranteed 6% dividend.***

(2) The 16th Amendment, creating the federal income tax, which was created to pay the Federal Reserve the interest owed on the money they lent the US government.  (Originally, the federal income tax went directly to the Federal Reserve Bank.)

(3) The oil depletion allowance, which subsidized the oil companies, chiefly Rockefeller's Standard Oil.  (But also Morgan, Harriman and Mellon's businesses, etc.)

(4)  Tax exemptions for foundations and churches.  Foundations, although probably used somewhat for this reason previously, were highly structured through this legislation to be the principal source to hide both wealth and ownership, while avoiding taxation, of the senior plutocrats (supposed to have been structured by Rockefeller's law firm which originally created the holding company structure).

***Thusly, the banksters were subsidized, their oil companies were subsidized, they avoided taxation while hiding the true amount of their wealth and vast holdings.  William Jennings Bryan, who was against such a move, was fooled into believing the government would print the money (which it does and pays for, via the US Bureau of Engraving and Printing) without being shown the entire legislation.  Robert Owens, the coauthor of this legislation, was connected to the plutocrats as his father was president of the Virginia and Tennessee Railroad.

 

 

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 07:13 | Link to Comment lolmao500
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They should hack the federal reserve and the various MSM then.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 08:34 | Link to Comment youLilQuantFuker
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Simple. They only hack into bait servers. Engineered honeypots.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 11:53 | Link to Comment CPL
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Honeypots are usually commandeered to act as spam and bot gateways.  Baby IT Sec guys think honeypots are trap, they are the best form of free CPU and bandwidth online.  They are over looked as a vector and the folks that run them usually overlook the idea of running a TRA or VA on them plus they are usually loaded to the tits with the software someone would need to turn it into a zombie without too much fuss.

 

Honeypots, unless you've geared them to viciously attack an intruder are useless, it's just giving away free bandwidth and cycles to anyone with enough time to creep around the backend and change things a bit.

 

IT security is dead, or at least a red herring, there are four unpatchable holes in every system on the planet that's wired, you patch them, everything stops working.  Why are they there?  OSI.  The commandments of how networking works in seven layers.  You can pick up one of thousands of academic papers online that describe how OSI works and the defined risks in every networking stack on the planet.

Fastest I've seen someone in hacking competitions crack four separate platforms is 13 seconds.  Most of the time was the person in question taking a sip from a can of pop before they launched their script.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 13:14 | Link to Comment DaveyJones
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it's the nature of the beast and the wildcard of the future. Everytime I think the current structure(s) give the powers ultimate control, I come up with an opposite conclusion. Weird times, great post 

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 11:49 | Link to Comment JPM Hater001
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"They have been trying to hack the federal reserve and the various MSM."

Fixed.

You really think this isnt on the agenda?

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 12:17 | Link to Comment JW n FL
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anything of value is walked to and from stand alones.

info bleed is controled in any form.

everything is compartmentalized or the stuff we would want.

operational info.. who does what.. and systems that operate for execution are things China wants.. not hackers.. we want the files for informational purposes.

the scaned docs.. which were sanitized way back when to begin with..

even if #ANON had the docs from the stand alones.. nothing would be there.. not enough to convict in an open court.

there are NO! complete records..

this is a problem, becuase #ANON like anyone else with a Soul would want Proof.. to be able to provide proof of the wrong doing.

well! thats why there is NO! Paper Trail! there is no Proof!

the intelligence services always have the ability to fall back on OUR! weakness!

Proof or the lack there of!

all of this hot air about kids and congressmen!

show me the video's were are they???????

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 12:57 | Link to Comment old naughty
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 "They should hack the federal reserve ..."

Now thats the smartest thing I heard (in the last few minutes) here. 

Why didn't they?

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 13:05 | Link to Comment sgt_doom
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Because, old clueless old naughty, the real operational and intel action takes place at JPMorgan Chase, Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, Booz-Allen Hamilton (since the privitization of the American intel establishment), Raytheon, SAIC, Blackstone Group, and the FRBNY - the control element for the Fed -- but essentially the Fed is simply the front office for the bank/oil cartel.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 07:13 | Link to Comment Wakanda
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"...which will likely very soon be made public..."

Yawn.

When did I last hear that?

Wed, 12/28/2011 - 00:10 | Link to Comment Temporalist
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Wasn't Assange supposed to have something on Bank of America way back when?

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 09:32 | Link to Comment Mercury
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Although Stratfor is not necessarily among the parties at fault in the larger movement against transparency and individual liberty, it has long been a "subject of interest" in our necessary investigation. The e-mails obtained before Christmas Day will vastly improve our ability to continue that investigation and thereby bring to light other instances of corruption, crime, and deception on the part of certain powerful actors based in the U.S. and elsewhere.

These people at Stratfor may not be the bad guys but we stole their shit anyway because it will probably help us expose real bad guys doing something bad somewhere in the world. When we do find them, we'll let you know (along with a short list of other guys who I would want to play me in the inevitable, blockbuster movie) because only warriors of social justice like ourselves (well, me really) are in a position to make these kinds of big picture calls.

Yup, the amoral dictate is in effect.  You're welcome.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 10:13 | Link to Comment Blankman
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Exactly what I was thinking.  Two wrongs are now suddenly making a right?  Or a great line from Apocalypse Now "What do you call it when the assassins accuse the assassin?"

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 10:21 | Link to Comment fuu
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Par for the course?

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 12:02 | Link to Comment JPM Hater001
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In recent months I have been evolving my understanding of right and wrong.  This is, of course, based on the ideas put forth by Locke and Hobbs and many others.  So to ponder-

Does government sanction make something right?  Or just legal?  It could then be said segregation in the south was "right" because it was "legal".  I think we all know that it was "wrong" but yes, "legal."

This same test needs to be applied to the people when the inverse of liberty apprehends our goverment and abuses our rights and freedoms while threatening our liberty.  Although hacking may be "illegal", in a system where TPTB wont prosecute and protect our liberties the constitution clearly leaves power to the people.  Ergo the act is "illegal", however it is "right".

And I prefer this line from the Directors cut: "Who are you?" "I'm next."

Let me know if I can help guys.

Wed, 12/28/2011 - 23:16 | Link to Comment widget
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James Corbett tapped into this topic not too long ago http://www.corbettreport.com/episode-203-philosophy-of-freedom-natural-law/

The podcast does not (and does not attempt to) provide all the answers, but does pose interesting questions.

It does cement one fact though - that the IRS and the tax code does not satify any one of Fuller's "eight constitutive elements of legality", breaking down what we subconsciously already knew.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 13:07 | Link to Comment sgt_doom
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To Blankman, also known as douchebagger:

You should contact your congress critter and complain  --- perhaps they will take the time from communicating with all those lobbyists who pay them, to respond to you personally?

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 13:40 | Link to Comment eureka
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Mercury and Blankman - you are moral relativists.  I will educate you:

"Humility" is an attribute well directed say toward God and true human greatness - but very ill adviced or inclined toward dominant and manipulative - i.e. evil - whether human or otherwise.

"Respect for Privacy" is appropriate in affairs of privacy - but not in matters of crimes.

Stratfor services the criminal elites and henchmen of US Empire - i.e. all the forces who serve and aim for US World Hegemony via the tools of A) global financialization of all asset classes via US FED RES & USD World Reserve Currency Regime backed by B) US Military Empire adn C) Globalism, i.e. outsourcing of all manufacturing and off-shoring of all corporate/elite profits and socialization of all corporate'elite losses - i.e. equal enslavement of all the world's working/serving/minimum-salaried masses.

Stratfor - as elite-serving-propagandist tool - is a legitimate target for total penetration and exposure by any individual and or group who is against US Elite-Empire-Hegemony.

Of course, if you are an elitist wanna-be and or elite cocksucker or elite network member, you will be against any exposure of the elite.

Moral incertitude, vascilation and or fogginess - is what kills the underdog. Every single time. Get over it.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 15:23 | Link to Comment Buckaroo Banzai
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It's fine to take justice in your own hands-- as long as you turn out to be right.

If you turn out to be wrong, then you're just a common criminal.

The problem is, everyone always thinks they know a lot more than they usually do.

 

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 16:35 | Link to Comment WilliamD
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So youre saying winners are, by default, correct? No logic to what you're saying. That if you lose a fight for justice, you must have been wrong?

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 17:31 | Link to Comment Buckaroo Banzai
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Uh...no. You sure misssed my point. Over a period of over a thousand years, western civilization developed a justice system that is actually pretty well designed to sort out the guilty from the innocent. It doesn't work great, but it's the best system we've got, assuming of course it doesn't get perverted or hijacked. The reason this system was developed was because individual members of society have a very difficult time sorting out truth from falsehood and deception.

When individuals circumvent the justice system, they need to be not just righteous, but actually RIGHT. That is, their judgement must be accurate. Otherwise, you are no better than a common criminal, who does what he pleases regardless of the consequences.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 19:55 | Link to Comment sgt_doom
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So, you are retarded, or suffering from early onset Alzheimer's, and are completely ignorant of all the crimes committed against the people by the banksters?

You really do need help.....

Wed, 12/28/2011 - 00:23 | Link to Comment Temporalist
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No he's not retarded it's true that when one is seeking justice, in a system that provides justice, one needs to have morals or they are no worse.  But when one has the ability to meet out justice, in an unjust system, then they also have a moral obligation to do so for the benefit of the many.

 

Wed, 12/28/2011 - 00:20 | Link to Comment Temporalist
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When justice isn't served on the government, money masters, military and corporate masters that are the largest offenders there is no justice for anyone. 

 

The system may be designed to work great but when it is no longer working because it is restricted by those in control it is no longer a system of justice but oppression and tyranny.

 

To say "it doesn't work great" when it's already been perverted, as is obvious to so many, is naive or delusional.  Nobody is circumventing "justice" when they are being shown there is none.

 

So those who care nothing about justice, in your world, can always rely on those with morals to bend to the injustices they are controlled with?  Most revolutions have resulted from these conditions.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 20:17 | Link to Comment Blankman
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Eureka -

 

So are you saying that Anonymous is right in this matter?  They should take down the whole system and then what?  Are you sure you and your counterparts are up for what happens next?  As I mentioned to another poster a while back, one of my favorite sayings is "When the going gets weird the weird turn pro."  It is people like me who will be in control because we are ruthless cunts who don't care and know how to lead.  It has been this way from the beginning of time, computer whizzes will be rendered useless and people with too large of brains will show weakness in their leadership skills.  Should Anonymous take down the global capitalist banking gangster cartel and the ultra-uber rich multinational corporations... expect chaos and in that choas truly ruthless cunts will prevail.  

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 16:44 | Link to Comment Random_Robert
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"Or a great line from Apocalypse Now "What do you call it when the assassins accuse the assassin?"

 

- They lie. They lie and we must be merciful for those who lie.... these Nabobs. I hate them. I do hate them. 

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 07:19 | Link to Comment I am Jobe
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How about Congress and loot the fuckers.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 09:33 | Link to Comment CPL
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My understanding it's fairly complete to the names and address of the next of kin, their children in most case, their parents in others.There is isn't a congressman, MMP, Civil service director or C level excutive that isn't represented in the database.

 

Now how would you use that information?  It's a situation that no good can come from.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 07:19 | Link to Comment jonjon831983
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Yea figured somebody is trying to find the linkages.

 

I wonder though, was this done a while ago - or did it all go down this long weekend?  Did Stratfor JUST discover and release it / find out via Anon and then let clients know?

 

And if Anon did this - who is to say some foreign state entity hasn't done it already?

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 09:35 | Link to Comment CPL
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You can go to the silk road and bid on it if you want.  Bring gold, bitcoins or drugs to trade.  Warning you though, you aren't going to like what you see.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 11:41 | Link to Comment Ralph Spoilsport
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Wondering when having a VPN, Tor and going through 7 proxy servers won't be enough to keep your IP occulted. With unlimited funding for mainframe firepower to do deep packet inspection, anything TPTB can't read will be flagged and "investigated".

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 12:12 | Link to Comment CPL
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You have to understand who runs their infrastructure.  We do.  There are more doctors on the planet than there are computer engineers.  Our career path is about a thousand times less sexy and less paid than a doctor.  I know it doesn't seem like it online because we're like the paint on the walls.  We are always present online.  The people we investigate would be ourselves.

 

Besides anyone worth their weight in salt wouldn't do their business from home.  The VPN. Tor. Proxies are only to keep idle scans at bay, of course you can be caught.  If you are a brute online, you make a tonne of "noise".  But if you time it with site backups, or database replication, something large enough you get lost in the noise and just "float" along with it.  Like a stick in a stream.  You just see where it goes.  Eventually something floats by and you "grab" it and let yourself enter the "castle" from the sewer drain and keep floating through and record everything while passing through.

Information management as a vocation is full of complete MBA fuckups that ended up taking those six month match book cover programs.  You have to understand that they honestly have no clue what they are doing.  They talk Sigma nonsense, but haven't the foggiest on the basics of control lists or classification.

 

 

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 16:54 | Link to Comment Random_Robert
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"Information management as a vocation is full of complete MBA fuckups that ended up taking those six month match book cover programs.  You have to understand that they honestly have no clue what they are doing.  They talk Sigma nonsense, but haven't the foggiest on the basics of control lists or classification."

{chuckle} spot on.

Very similar to the cancer (that is Insurance Company centric managed healthcare) that is infecting the medical industry, and preventing the best surgeons and diagnosticians from doing their best work.

 

 

 

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 13:14 | Link to Comment sgt_doom
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Sorry, guy, but you don't quite understand the infrastructure, nor who the DHS hires (since the vast majority of hiring is nespotistic, don't look for any geniuses there or elsewhere in Kim John Boehner land).

When the LOIC DDOS was done awhile back, an unfortunate young lady, who helped out from her dorm room at MIT, where she could easily be IP-tracked, and several fellows in Europe (a Dutch ISPer and a young Brit, also made the same mistake.  Got use those dynamic IP areas, guy, and pay close attention to what anonymizers you go through, or what corps you spoof.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 07:27 | Link to Comment boatwhiskers
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What the hell did I do before ZH? eat, sleep, shower, fuck that. Tyler your a machine.

Wed, 12/28/2011 - 23:40 | Link to Comment widget
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"Tyler was a night person. While the rest of us were sleeping, he worked."

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 07:30 | Link to Comment Urban Redneck
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Using stolen credit cards to make "charitable" donations could have ugly blowback.  First off, the banks and credit card companies will simply debit the charities bank accounts for at least as much they received in "suspect" donations, which given the EOY donation rush- means these institutions stands to be net financial losers during their most important fund raising season, simply by virtue of being singled out for a gift.  Secondly, the government now has a list of the "friends" of their "enemy" and this coupled with the IRS's control over tax-exempt status, the recent defense authorization's stretching of "presumptive guilt by association", and the State's basically unrestrained license to make the lives of their subjects miserable, could spell New Year's (amateur night) hangover headaches for the very firms they weren't trying to hurt.  

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 09:42 | Link to Comment zhandax
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Most 'charities' are completely bogus; simply a front for some 6- or 7-digit-income dipshit to skim the cashflow. 

Don't forget the PR benefits; here in a small 1mm SMSA market this morning at 4am, the local news interviewed some sad-sack ex bureaucrat whining that he had $800 in charges run up on his card because Stratfor got hacked (and he was, by inference, a subscriber).  He of course, right at Christmas, noticed it within two hours and called the bank to get the card canceled but made a point to emphasize that 'efforts like this don't hurt the corporations; they simply hurt the little guy'.  It could make one wonder how long the media has had to spin this crock or from how high the spin has been disseminated.  Nashville news ain't that creative.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 13:19 | Link to Comment sgt_doom
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Thank you, zhandax!!!

"Most 'charities' are completely bogus; ..."

Yup, it ain't NO coincidence that the head of the International Red Cross meets yearly with David Rockefeller, Henry Kissinger and the Bilderberger tribe.

Nor is it a "coincidence" when Beatrice Ask, the Justice Minister for Sweden, is a former Red Cross exec -- she's the one who reopened the Julian Assange extradition/investigation (Wikileaks) after it was closed for lack of evidence -- and has been pressing on ever since.

Nor was it a "coincidence" when Libby Dole, and so many other true-blue neocons, served as directors of the American Red Cross, nor that there are over 45,000 NGOs in Haiti, the majority up to no good!

With over 50,000 foundations in America, if they were truly on the "up and up" then we would be living in Paradise, instead of a Third World Nation.....

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 11:38 | Link to Comment holdbuysell
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"First off, the banks and credit card companies will simply debit the charities bank accounts for at least as much they received in "suspect" donations, which given the EOY donation rush- means these institutions stands to be net financial losers during their most important fund raising season, simply by virtue of being singled out for a gift."

Seems logical...which then brings me to this:

WTF. Then why can't they just go take back the MF Global's stolen customer property from where they sent it?

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 12:44 | Link to Comment Urban Redneck
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If the institution involved has its own Fedline or Swift terminal- they are immune from State interference- even the almighty obummer would have to literally ask/beg permission from ChairSatan or his FrankenFreak Doppelganger first- since law enforcement effectively has read-ONLY membership in the TPTB's social networking app, otherwise the fear of exposing the fallacy of fiat currency is replaced by the reality of exposing the delusion of digital wealth.  Countries can legislate currency controls or "ask" banks to freeze the funds of their bitch-du-jour (ala Mad Momar Q'Daffy or even MF'd Globally) but they never even whisper or joke about simply implugging Fedline (Skynet maybe)...  When Hank P was shaking down the Nancy & Harry show for a blank check and Kanjorsky was on TV wining about a digital run on US banks- no one was suggesting that they simply drive to BoNY and take a chain saw to any service entrance conduits- which actually would have made a US bank run physically impossible.  A few months later Joe Bite Me apparently couldn't get a good answer from his bosses how after a bank holiday occurs in a non-banana-republic, or a country that isn't slated for official return to banana status, a bank run by TPTB on TBTF is prevented.  When they figure that one out make sure your money is actually in your wallet and not in some piece of bank plastic.

Wed, 12/28/2011 - 03:32 | Link to Comment msamour
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In other words you are admiring the Government is corrupt, and evil, and will punish anyone that stands in their way? Kinda sounds like it to me, even if indirectly...

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 07:30 | Link to Comment GeneMarchbanks
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Intuitively, most of us already 'know' what to expect in those e-mails whether they are released or not.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 08:19 | Link to Comment slackrabbit
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perhaps. but still fun reading....and there are always those who wil say 'show me the evidence'

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 07:34 | Link to Comment gangland
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zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz mickey mouse bullshit

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 12:42 | Link to Comment JW n FL
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Industry Balks at NYSE Sub-Penny Plan

By Peter Chapman

An NYSE Euronext proposal to permit its members to quote in sub-pennies is proving highly controversial.

The exchange operator's "Retail Liquidity Program" would create dark pools at the New York Stock Exchange and NYSE Amex, where members could vie for retail order flow with quotes only a tenth of a cent better than the market's best displayed prices.

Read the full story

 

have some meat & veggies with your desert!

we cant have the Goy Slaves taking pennies from off the top! LULZ!!

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 07:53 | Link to Comment syvanen
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anonymous has, to date, never used or marketed, any credit card numbers they may have encountered.  They have publicly stated that they would never do so. I certainly hope they continue that policy.

 

Wed, 12/28/2011 - 01:41 | Link to Comment Temporalist
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Do you honestly think anyone that may be associated with any of this still has the same CC?

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 08:09 | Link to Comment Coldfire
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Whether Anonymous are false-flag cyberfascism fluffers or bona fide GIABO operatives, watch the TSA's Big Cyst - among other fascist thugs - to be all over this. Never let a crisis go to waste meets Wickard v. Fillburn meets presidential election year. Post-OBL, Anonymous is shaping up to become the next (t)urban legend and focus of the five-minute hate. A global banking "holiday" masking as a takedown of the SWIFT, Fedwire and ATM networks would really put this strange creature over the top.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 08:17 | Link to Comment slackrabbit
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sadly agree.....another excuse to 'protect us' from the terrorists that 'want to take the internet hostage'....blah blah blah

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 08:12 | Link to Comment jcaz
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Bullshit..... It's ALWAYS about the money......

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 10:35 | Link to Comment Money 4 Nothing
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Negative, in today's world it's about Knowledge = Power.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 10:53 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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Agree. Fiat = deadman walking. We all believe in it and use it, until we don't.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 11:24 | Link to Comment DaveyJones
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not sure there's a difference between money and knowledge, at least the control of it

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:10 | Link to Comment FeralSerf
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As long as it's fiat money, there isn't a difference.  It's just a matter of a few keystrokes to create or destroy it.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 08:15 | Link to Comment mailll
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Let the conspiracies be known.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 12:05 | Link to Comment JPM Hater001
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Yes.  It is time to move from Theories and pull back the veil to see all the ugliness.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 08:39 | Link to Comment youLilQuantFuker
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Fail! Next!

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 08:51 | Link to Comment saints51
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Pull a fight club and do some real shit to help mankind hehe

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 09:23 | Link to Comment split4to1
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they've posted snippets of the emails as proof... summary of stratfor damage done thus far by remain anonymous http://remainanonymous.org/2011/12/26/summary-of-stratfor-damage-done-thus-far/

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:02 | Link to Comment eureka
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split4to1 - most links on the page your link leads to have zero target and read "Unkown Paste ID"

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 09:37 | Link to Comment Divine Wind
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Anonymous will never hack the Fed or bring down anyone or anything even remotely associated with the Dems, particularly because the Dems are their closest chance for socialist nirvana and free handouts.

Ahhhh, Socialist Nirvana. You know, that wonderful shining city on a hill, where there are no walls, where there is the free flow of information, where you don't have to work if you don't want to, where all of the money I earn belongs to everyone else, where there are no closed doors, where you can bum a smoke off anyone, where hot spots are free all day long, where someone is there to clean up after us and the chicks (nasty ass liberal skanks) give it up to whomever happens to be in their tent at the time.

It is highly likely they will target  rich Jews who have more than they do and anything tied to the Republicans because they stand in the way of Socialist Nirvana.

If they were really after their stated goal, they would have hacked the crap out of their targets already. We would already know that Bernanke eats cornflakes in the morning and prefers farm animals at night. We would be seeing secret bailout emails between Timmy and the banks. We would see the super secret correspondence between President Shuck and Jive and Corzine about which banana republic was chosen to hide money.

I am certain there will be more of their work revealed in the coming months. I am also certain it will target everyone except for the people and orgs they profess to want to take down.

Symbolism Over Substance.

 

 

 

 

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 11:08 | Link to Comment gmrpeabody
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Whenever I hear the words "social justice" being used in place of "equal justice", I run the other way.

Wed, 12/28/2011 - 00:26 | Link to Comment Matte_Black
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I find it ironic and humorous that the Divine Wind seems to be glowing with toxicity these days.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 09:27 | Link to Comment Ironmaan
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If they are interested in maintaining the free flow of information on the internet, then they should take some interest in Mr.Blowjob himself, William Jefferson Clinton, who recently stated that we should go back to the days of the big three networks as he blasted the internet as a place that is causing division. He went on to say that the News should be metered out by consensus.

Sounds to me as though the elites have a problem with the masses knowing what the fuck they are doing.

http://thedailybell.com/3401/Former-President-Bill-Clinton-Calls-for-a-Return-to-Big-3-News-Networks

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 11:25 | Link to Comment DaveyJones
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Thanks for the post. If there is any trend, it's the blatant, outspoken attack on our constitutional principles. To synonymize the first amendment with concensus, to define a national threat with a large number of "reporters" off the corporate payroll, and to wish control by a limited number all by an ex-president is further proof this place is going under.     

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 09:51 | Link to Comment mrgneiss
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"The state-corporate" alliance.  You won't hear those words in the MSM, yet they control, influence or are attempting to do so on most aspects of our lives.  AKA the "Oligarchy".

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 10:43 | Link to Comment toadold
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Anonymous,they aren't as anonymous as they think. So far a few of them have been arrested as tokens. But I can see the new Home Land Security/Patriot act being unleashed on them if they ever mess up and release something the nasty boys want kept quiet.  Various members will just disapear. Some will have accidents. Some will get raped in prison. Very few tears are shed for the self-rightgeous when they fall. 

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 11:21 | Link to Comment WilliamD
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My God, what a bunch of cowardly armchair revolutionary wanna-bes. And no, I'm not talking about Anonymous.

Someone actually DOES something to push back against what everyone here complains about on a daily basis, and then all you all can do is find fault and say how you could do better. What a bunch of fucking basement couch-dwelling fat assed retards.

I know I'm being "abusive" to your sorry souls and will probably get flagged, but you all deserve this.

Thank you, Anonymous.

Oh, and one more thing. Anonymous, don't rise to the bait of the zeros here, they're not worth your time.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 11:26 | Link to Comment MsCreant
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Can war be waged "ethically?" When you know the women holding babies can be strapped with bombs, do you shoot all the women at a distance? It is so hard to know what is what these days. I can say this, I am excited if it is real, and these folks scare me if they are real. The deal is, is the system being torn down, as we speak, out of sight but over the web? What will replace it, if so? That is the multi quintillion dollar question. Take it to its extreme. What if hacker nation emerged from the ashes? What would be next? I don't have an answer but the train of thought is worth our while. It's coming if the power grid stays up and running.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 11:30 | Link to Comment WilliamD
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Sorry, I should have addressed my last to SOME of the commenters here, the ones getting all the negs. Obviously most ZH readers support Anonymous.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 13:05 | Link to Comment Cistercian
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I support them.How could I not?I live in the US....and the .gov uses torture...and can arrest and detain the citizens forever on a whim.Just a quick reminder to those who have qualms about anon's methods....look at who we are up against.

 

 Anon rocks.

 

 Totally.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 12:08 | Link to Comment Wu Qi Ming
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Flagged for telling it like it is??? Say it aint so.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 16:42 | Link to Comment saints51
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I agree with you. Only thing I mentioned was pull a fight club scenario if you want to do some real life changing for mankind. I added "hehe" at the end as my way of joking around with everyone. Guess my 2 down red arrows were people who didn't get it. Oh well but I agree with what they are doing.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 11:49 | Link to Comment diogeneslaertius
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the enemy wants violence, they want hacking

 

it all justifies more New World Order

 

until resistance surmounts the avenues down which our enemies have laid traps for us, there will be little more than e-dick stroking by useful idiots and synthetic terror

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 11:51 | Link to Comment diogeneslaertius
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the pain continues for me

watching the spectacle of it

people i know are smarter walking right into a trap that has been laid for them

 

whatever, another week in paradise

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 12:16 | Link to Comment RingToneDeaf
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The looting is getting close here. Someone needs to stay home all the time.

I love the chaos. No where to hide.

Waiting for the smell of napalm and burning flesh.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 16:47 | Link to Comment saints51
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You may think this is what you want until its you or your family's flesh burning. You will NOT like chaos when you may be outnumbered 100 to 1 for your personal goods. You lose that one everytime and no where to run or hide.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 12:20 | Link to Comment haskelslocal
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"We are best at hiding those things which are in plain sight".  - Goethe

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 12:39 | Link to Comment tony bonn
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"Since that time, many of us in the movement have dedicated our lives to investigating this state-corporate alliance against the free information movement."

go anonymous go!! much of this information has been produced on the taxpayer's dime and should be public....

fuck the totalitarian secretive nixon-bush state....

 

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 13:30 | Link to Comment Lucius Corneliu...
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There is no bigger neocon nutjob than George Friedman.  He is an enemy to freedom.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 13:35 | Link to Comment ebworthen
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Therre must be chaos to have order.

There has been far too much order of the wrong kind, and far too little chaos.

Restore the balance.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:10 | Link to Comment HamFistedIdiot
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"Therre must be chaos to have order"

Order out of chaos is the motto of the 33rd degree masons, our "illumined" masters, the eyes at the top of the pyramid. Nothing fucks with the NWO like peace and stability. Research "problem, reaction, solution."

"The highest degree of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, the Meritorious Degree, the Degree of the Illuminati, whose motto is "Ordo Ab Chao" or "Out of Chaos Comes Order."

These same bastards think that destablizing Russia, China, and Iran will give the fiat banksters and infinite leverage crooks of the City of London the chaos they need for another 100 years of dominion. Heard Tarpley speak about that on Alex's show on Christmas day. Research how the Rothschilds basically own the City of London, which is an area of land NOT subject to British law, English law, Common Law, or edicts from the UN. Anything goes in "the city." It's the center of the spider web.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 13:57 | Link to Comment Joebloinvestor
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They need to hack the CFTC and get all of GENSLERS emails.

That little fuck wad delayed rules to help his buddy Jon.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:27 | Link to Comment ExpendableOne
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Suspicious.  Online "open source" intelligence site gets hacked with all sources revealed.  Sounds like an excellent way to silence a bunch of sources.  Who's going to send them tips now?

 

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:33 | Link to Comment Beard of Zeus
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Agreed, DW.

Anonymous remind me of the late Christopher Hitchens: an Establishment shill pretending to be a subversive.

Smoke and mirrors.

Anonymous will never strike at the vital targets. They prefer the soft, easy targets.

Pussies.

 

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:36 | Link to Comment Beard of Zeus
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Cyber-warfare is just a skirmish.

In the end, it all comes down to hand-to-hand combat in the streets.

Man to man.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 15:12 | Link to Comment indio007
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Anonymous has seemingly denied doing this hack..

 

http://pastebin.com/8yrwyNkt

 

Emergency Christmas Anonymous Press Release

-------------------------------------------

12/25/2011

 

THE STRATFOR HACK IS NOT THE WORK OF ANONYMOUS

 

Stratfor is an open source intelligence agency, publishing daily reports on data collected from the open internet. Hackers claiming to be Anonymous have distorted this truth in order to further their hidden agenda, and some Anons have taken the bait.

 

The leaked client list represents subscribers to a daily publication which is the primary service of Stratfor. Stratfor analysts are widely considered to be extremely unbiased. Anonymous does not attack media sources. In this excerpt from Time, there is a brief description of how Stratfor analysts uncovered a possible US backed coup in Iraq preceding the US invasion.

 

"In the past month Stratfor has drawn attention to a carefully assembled open-source report that asserted that last month's attack on Iraq wasn't intended just to punish Saddam Hussein for blowing off U.N. weapons inspectors. By sorting through thousands of pieces of publicly available data--from Middle East newspapers to Iraqi-dissident news--Stratfor analysts developed a theory that the attacks were actually designed to mask a failed U.S.-backed coup. In two striking, contrarian intelligence briefs released on the Internet on Jan. 5 and Jan. 6, Stratfor argued that Saddam's lightning restructuring of the Iraqi military, followed by executions of the army's Third Corps commanders, was evidence that the coup had been suppressed. Predictably, U.S. officials said the report was wrong."

 

Stratfor has been purposefully misrepresented by these so-called Anons and portrayed in false light as a company which engages in activity similar to HBGary. Sabu and his crew are nothing more than opportunistic attention whores who are possibly agent provocateurs. As a media source, Stratfor's work is protected by the freedom of press, a principle which Anonymous values greatly.

 

This hack is most definitely not the work of Anonymous.

 

We are Anonymous

We do not forgive

We do not forget

Expect us

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 15:52 | Link to Comment Crummy
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Lol, Barret Brown... Good lord. You can't just crown yourself king like that, stupid pawn.

Wed, 12/28/2011 - 00:21 | Link to Comment Matte_Black
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Mr. Brown is Anonymous' msm interface, nothing more.

Wed, 12/28/2011 - 01:34 | Link to Comment Crummy
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Lol sure, ok... And I'm the ambassador to Narnia. Can't wait to read that book with all those fox hole reports from teh cyberwarz.

"July 15th, 2005. It's been 22 hours now, I'm down to my last proxy. Although many of us have been struck down by the b&hammer we still do not hesitate to step up and take our place at the ladder knowing full well that we'll be the next to go. Bob willing, by this time tomorrow, the pool will still be empty and lulz will ring out across the tubes"

Imagine if they made a movie, oh god.

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 16:22 | Link to Comment brian oblivion
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Emergency Christmas Anonymous Press Release
-------------------------------------------
12/25/2011

THE STRATFOR HACK IS NOT THE WORK OF ANONYMOUS

Stratfor is an open source intelligence agency, publishing daily reports on data collected from the open internet. Hackers claiming to be Anonymous have distorted this truth in order to further their hidden agenda, and some Anons have taken the bait.

The leaked client list represents subscribers to a daily publication which is the primary service of Stratfor. Stratfor analysts are widely considered to be extremely unbiased. Anonymous does not attack media sources. In this excerpt from Time, there is a brief description of how Stratfor analysts uncovered a possible US backed coup in Iraq preceding the US invasion.

"In the past month Stratfor has drawn attention to a carefully assembled open-source report that asserted that last month's attack on Iraq wasn't intended just to punish Saddam Hussein for blowing off U.N. weapons inspectors. By sorting through thousands of pieces of publicly available data--from Middle East newspapers to Iraqi-dissident news--Stratfor analysts developed a theory that the attacks were actually designed to mask a failed U.S.-backed coup. In two striking, contrarian intelligence briefs released on the Internet on Jan. 5 and Jan. 6, Stratfor argued that Saddam's lightning restructuring of the Iraqi military, followed by executions of the army's Third Corps commanders, was evidence that the coup had been suppressed. Predictably, U.S. officials said the report was wrong."

Stratfor has been purposefully misrepresented by these so-called Anons and portrayed in false light as a company which engages in activity similar to HBGary. Sabu and his crew are nothing more than opportunistic attention whores who are possibly agent provocateurs. As a media source, Stratfor's work is protected by the freedom of press, a principle which Anonymous values greatly.

This hack is most definitely not the work of Anonymous.

We are Anonymous
We do not forgive
We do not forget
Expect us

 

http://pastebin.com/8yrwyNkt

Wed, 12/28/2011 - 14:31 | Link to Comment Archduke
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Nobody can say for sure.  This could be disinfo as much as the original claim.

 

Unless Anonymous starts warning of specific actions, say encrypted exploit details

released beforehand on bittorrent, later unlocked with a public key and verified with

signed certificates matching previous hacks, the only compass you have to judge

is each specific action on a stand-alone basis.

 

Personally, I have winced at Stratfor's previous neocon stance on Wikileaks,

Assange, and Anonymous, so I would not dimiss it as a target in their sights.

I just don't know.  But then with the same discretion I laud Strafor and friedman

for their traditional geopolitical analysis.  I don't agree with everything they

write, but they certainly do their research and think up intelligent scenarios.

 

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