Another Blow For America's Banks (And Bank Of America) After California Kills Robosigning Settlement

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Sat, 10/01/2011 - 08:29 | 1728531 ian807
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This smells a lot like California angling for federal money to bail out its economy. Expect a Cal bailout deal in the next month or two - one you'll never hear about in the MSM.

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 09:02 | 1728595 Cloud9.5
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The whole banking system is based on fraud.  If you want to save the country then you must reestablish the rule of law.   Some people need to go to jail.

Here in Florida, the banks sit on the judical nominating committees.  They own the courts.

There is no justice.   There is just us.


Sat, 10/01/2011 - 10:06 | 1728638 scatterbrains
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All you Chris Christie sycophants  should rememeber he is a member of the bankster harem of whores.. I supose for those Banksters that like them big.. after all, to each his own.  How much bankster nut licking is his appointed AG doing I wonder ?

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 10:48 | 1728820 Seasmoke
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Christie is a dirty , fat , lying scumbag......i triple dare him to run for president.......the people will get their (100 pounds) of fat

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 11:03 | 1728852 DeadFred
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Christie is cool!

Christie is a shill!

ZHers let your views be known!

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 11:47 | 1728948 CrashisOptimistic
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I thought Christie is trying to fire people swilling at the government cheese.

How can this be bad?

On the other hand, he's a politician.  How can this be good?

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 12:16 | 1729000 Seasmoke
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yeah his taking on the public leeches of the teachers union was fun to watch and made for good entertainment , watching the teachers get their heads bashed in, but he hasnt touched a state employee.....its all been squeezed to the local all he accomplished was to have services cut and highest property taxes in country  continue their rise, all while patting himself on his fat back, that HE didnt raise taxes .........dont get me started on how he hasnt done a thing about double dipping scumbag politicians (although i will admit he cant do it himself) but lets not give this guy any credit for be a conservative.....he is anything but !!

Sun, 10/02/2011 - 04:51 | 1730403 jeff montanye
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squeeze the school teachers and fellate the felon bankers; that seems about right.

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 15:52 | 1729379 Pladizow
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Politicians and diapers need to be changed often and for the same reason!

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 12:19 | 1729009 G-R-U-N-T
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Nice 12 minute interview to remind us of the magnaitude of this fraud and a perspective rarely, if ever reported on in the MSM.

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 15:34 | 1729349 Kiwi Pete
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Excelent video. Bill Black nails it yet again! Thanks for posting it.

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 19:13 | 1729803 tom a taxpayer
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G-R-U-N-T - Thanks for link.

1st and best option - Relace Holder with William Black as Attorney General.

2nd option - Appoint William Black as Special Prosecutor.

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 14:40 | 1729237 stopthejunk1
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Agree, Christie will not "fix" anything serious.  He will create the kinds of problems that righties like (e.g., more corporatism, more private plutocracy) at the expense of the kinds of problems that lefties like (more welfare statism, more public plutocracy.) 

I don't care that he's fat.  I'd almost rather that, than the made-for-TV stuffshirts that we have to look at most of the time.  But I do care that he's just "more of the same."

Sun, 10/02/2011 - 08:46 | 1730541 Cloud9.5
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I like the fact that Christie has the sand to do what he says he will do.  But, he is a Johnny come lately compared to Ron Paul.

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 09:33 | 1728648 sunnydays
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Totally awesome!  the banks need to lose all those houses - they committed the fraud and now they have to pay up for the fraud!  Let the people win for once!

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 10:30 | 1728779 john39
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i for one enjoy watching the banks burn... but long term wonder what the implications of a widespread banking collapse will be...  freedom for the people?  or one mega bank "to rule them all" which only furthers the centralization of power and control in the hands of the elites?   a related question, is the collapse now a controlled demolition?  impossible you say...

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 14:49 | 1729254 stopthejunk1
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It may help kill the Fed, which underwrote the whole thing.  More people, after they lose their savings, will wake up to the inherent evils of fractional banking and fiat currency, and demand a return to something more honest.

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 11:19 | 1728895 DosZap
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dude the people that are fortunate enough to still be in those LINDA GREEN homes, are winners.

The only problem(and one I would love to have on a $350-500k home for free, is there will NEVER be a way to get a clear title.

So, if you want,you cannot sell it, it's yours for life.

Taxes and all.

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 12:19 | 1729008 MisterMousePotato
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Of course there is. Called an action to quiet title. If no one shows up to defend the action, it's a slam dunk.

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 15:22 | 1729319 scatterbrains
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You could always listed on Ebay stating the title is unclear via Linda Green.  I would buy one marked down 70% or so.. life is about chances... anyway live in it mortgage free for 30 years and then dump it on Ebay kinda thing.. or stay until you die. Let your peeps flip it on Ebay or move in for another life time of no payments.


Sat, 10/01/2011 - 11:36 | 1728932 Das Capitalist
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I'm in Florida too.  Just got word that Bank of America restarted ALL of their foreclosure cases yesterday or Thursday.  A large portion had been on hold for robosigning, loss mitigation, etc. review.  I don't know what this means, but it is an abrupt change in the company policy.  They were doing this review to protecte themselves from future litigation.  Now they seem to be saying "F*** it."


Sat, 10/01/2011 - 11:51 | 1728955 CrashisOptimistic
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Squatting has become big in my area.

I am seeing serial squatters.  One group moves out.  The next group moves in.  The For Sale sign remains.

What I smell is this.  Insurance.  Banks can't insure vacant properties.  Insurers wont' insure vacant properties.

Also, there is the need to keep the heat on so pipes don't freeze.  Or fix a piece of trim if a raccoon rips it off.  And then there is lawn mowing if there's a town ordinance about appearance.

It's a fucking disaster and there is zero progress working out of it.

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 13:10 | 1729044 decon
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I live in a rural area of the sw US.  The house next to me has been vacant for 2 years.  I've been irrigating the trees (canal fed) to keep them from dying and occasionally mowing the yard.  The other day the BofA dicks showed up to assess what they needed to fix to sell it.  I had an upleasant conversation with them where one made the comment that they're "tired of getting bent over by the public" on all the housing defaults.  As I walked away I told him to buy some KY because the banks getting bent over is only starting.  I then proceeded to by some more FAZ on a pop. 

I know it was good risk managment to sell my FAZ position near the close on Fri. but I still feel regret for being too chicken to hold it and try and extract more out of the fuckers.

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 18:34 | 1729728 IrritableBowels
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Rolled the dice and stayed. ERY/FAZ/feeling good about next week. Thanks ZH.

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 23:57 | 1730165 decon
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Good luck!

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 13:34 | 1729134 toady
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The squatter problem here in AZ has a couple of interesting twists due to the illegals.

First, the bulk of them took their money and went home. This leaves a BIG bunch of empty houses, so there aren't enough people to fill all the empty houses.

The flip side is the illegals that remain are the hard core, make money, gangsters. When they are found squating there are usually assault weapons and tons of dope or hundreds of people jammed in there.

So I'll take the vacant houses. I call the cops if I see anybody I don't recognise at a house with a for sale sign. Better vacant than caught in the crossfire.

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 12:41 | 1729034 Boxed Merlot
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I've heard the same thing here in CA. Just anecdotal at this point, but an acquaintence with over 24 months of BAC negotiations just popped to the foreclosure card overnight. 


Not asking for a free house, looking for some of the relief provided to the banks to be used to asisst an honest person whose mortgage was destroyed by these bifurcating fools.


I'm afraid justice will be displaced by retribution as the rule of law is removed from the judiciary and finds it's way into the hands of the people directly.

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 14:54 | 1729264 stopthejunk1
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Yep. I see homeowners standing on their porches with shotguns, in a molon labe pose... sherrifs refusing to evict, because they're elected, not appointed or annointed like our Washington politicians.  Could get interesting.   

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 17:12 | 1729531 calltoaccount
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18000 viewers watching live feed of cops arresting NYC protestors against corporate and bankster crim greed.  they are there for us.

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 10:43 | 1728807 litoralkey
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THis has more to do with that fact that Kamala Harris is a moron.  Truly reached her Peter Principle several jobs back. She is a bonafide socialist whack job.

 Kamala Harris program "trained illegal immigrants for jobs they couldn't legally hold"

San Francisco District Attorney Kamala Harris is a contender for California state Attorney General. She's bad enough that some liberals in her city think she's incompetent and soft on crime. Not only that, but even the Los Angeles Times offers "San Francisco D.A.'s program trained illegal immigrants for jobs they couldn't legally hold/As she runs for state attorney general, prosecutor Kamala Harris faces questions over a program that trained illegal immigrant drug felons for jobs, kept them out of jail and expunged their records" (by Michael Finnegan, link).


Sunday, May 1, 2011
May Day! — Democrat-Socialists Rally Around Unions Of course.

It's May Day, the "International Day of the Worker."

And right on cue, at Los Angeles Times, "California Democrats rally around unions":

Framing the union battles taking place across the nation as a fundamental attack on working Americans, Democratic leaders on Saturday accused Republicans of scapegoating public employees for political gain.

"They are intent on dismantling the very economic ladder that lifted our middle class and made California the richest and greatest state in the greatest nation in the world," Atty. Gen. Kamala Harris told thousands of delegates and supporters gathered at the Democrats' annual convention in Sacramento.

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 11:44 | 1728943 Boxed Merlot
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Too bad CA couldn't get together with NV and reopen the Au/Ag mines that were used to finance our little family spat in the 1860s.  NY financial interests sure played that one well, didn't they?


CA / NV  still has the remnents of our sound currency days in that US mints and coinage capacities exist to strike constitutionally correct money for our own populace. Trust needs to be restored and for better or worse, we're re-entering the trust and verify stage of commercial activity. 


Script may be useful again in the future, but the fed's feeble attempt at continuing to pass their's off as USD is rapidly coming to an end.  imo again.


Bifurcate the fed from the USD.

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 13:26 | 1729112 dizzyfingers
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"... how much can we soak US taxpayers..."

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 14:29 | 1729218 Hansel
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Thread FYI:  Bank of America's website is still down, now for about 1 day.  This is a great way to frighten customers.

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 14:59 | 1729269 stopthejunk1
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Hmm.  Maybe the Fed showed up on Friday afternoon, to take them under "stewardship."  

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 08:32 | 1728537 Eugend66
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Off with their heads !

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 09:32 | 1728646 X.inf.capt
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im still waiting for a perp walk....

all this banking b.s. would immediately stop.....if they would put one, ONE ceo from a bank in a butt pounding prison....not club fed.

oh well, justice to the best lawyer in this system...

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 14:54 | 1729265 gina distrusts gov
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im still waiting for a perp walk....


If there are no  actions by the "leagle" system i fear that  vigilant justice will make a come back

Sun, 10/02/2011 - 14:04 | 1731011 WebWeasel
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It may start with a large number (I'm not even sure it has to be a majority) of people with a TBTF servicing their mortgage to simply stop making payments. It would overwhelm even the fraudclosure system and kill the TBTFs dead.

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 08:38 | 1728551 doomandbloom
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who put boiling water in the bathtub?

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 08:51 | 1728570 LMAO
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The Orthodontist of Omaha will not be a happy camper this weekend!

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 11:07 | 1728860 DeadFred
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Maybe he'll change his mind and say there is very little chance of a recession instead of very, very little chance.

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 08:39 | 1728553 LMAO
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I'm starting to believe we're in for an interesting monday European opening session.

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 08:48 | 1728572 youngman
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If this was  a normal market I would think that too...but nothing seems to move it the way it should move...Greece will go up I Econ 101 fell apart after the first bailout....nothing seems to be working to economic plan after that for me at least....

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 09:39 | 1728643 LMAO
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True, but the DXY has just left the launching pad and its' fuel will probably be paid for by the equity/commodity complex.

Combined with financials nose-diving on Monday in light of this robo-signing turmoil and general weakness and a failed EOM stick save I believe it's about time to put on our DOW 10.000 hats on the way down.


Sat, 10/01/2011 - 10:37 | 1728791 unum mountaineer
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the dxy leaving the launch pad is the last thing ben wants. currency wars this is.leads me to ponder when it will be time to focus on americas issues instead of europe. as bullard hinted at, fed just needs a reason, any reason. insert blank here and they will do more easing, more monetization, more dilluting of the dxy. of course there are many ways to trade this, including picking an american bank thats #winning, shorting dollar by buying gold. been reading reggie middleton?  heard hes going hunting for squid.

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 11:01 | 1728850 Ruffcut
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Even Reg can't swim deep enuff, in such murky waters to locate those slimmy squid.

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 10:44 | 1728811 Dapper Dan
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If more news from the MSM,  like the news linked below, keeps coming out yes monday will be

a panic.


No Rise in Home Prices Until 2020: Bankers


Published: Saturday, 1 Oct 2011 | 8:49 AM ET Text Size By: Karina Frayter, CNBC Markets Producer

 Home prices are unlikely to recover before 2020 and mortgage defaults will persist for years, says a survey of bank risk managers out Friday.


 The survey conducted by the Professional Risk Managers’ International Association for FICO, found that 49 percent of respondents do not expect housing prices to rise back to 2007 levels for another nine years. Only 21 percent of respondents said they would.

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 08:45 | 1728563 SOLnow
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Biden's son is AG in Delaware.  Interesting to see him named alongside Schneiderman. 

Sat, 10/01/2011 - 10:51 | 1728827 litoralkey
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Joe Biden's other son, Robert Hunter Biden, and Joe Biden's brother, James Biden, outright stole over $100MM through a ponzi investment scheme across international jurisidictions and walked away scot free because Obama and Holder refused to investigate, let alone prosecute the crimes.  Now Beau Biden sits in judgement of other investment bankers in Delaware, jurisdiciton of convenience of many of the other investment banker fraud fronts in the country, and rakes in campaign cash and peddles influence with his father from inside his government offices on the DElaware state government dime, and he does so daily, every single day.



Sat, 10/01/2011 - 08:46 | 1728565 youngman
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This is an Obama jobs program...for Lawyers....the broke states see a back door bailout a 50 billion dollar award...and the Fed backstops the banks...easy money..politically State nothing there...but saving the banking system from total collapse and with it the Western world.....yeah a Politician can run on that....

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