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Anti-Bailout Coalition Soars In Popularity Ahead Of Second Greek Election
Now that the first parliamentary election vote is meaningless, with no party able to form a coalition government, everyone is focusing on the outcome of the next election, which will take place some time in mid-June. Minutes ago Marc and Alpha (via Reuters) released the results of a poll conducted on Tuesday but just published, and which, if sustained means major trouble for the EMU, because the results show that Anti-bailout Syriza is alone going to have almost as much represented as its two main pro-bailout opponents combined, and confirms that all the other parties are losing voters which instead are going toward the one party that seeks above all, to sever the terms of the Memorandum.
- Syriza: 23.8%, up from 16.8% in the election
- New Democracy: 17.4%, down from 18.9%
- Pasok: 10.8%, down from 13.2%
- Independent Greeks: 8.7%, down from 10.6%
- KKE: 6.0%, down from 8.48%
- Golden Dawn: 4.9%, down from 7%
- Dimar: 4.0%, down from 6.11%
Or visually:
In other words, more and more Greeks are aligning with the anti-bailout Syriza. If we were Europe we would be worried. Very, very worried.
Or at least installing Diebold voting equipment all across Greece.
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Momentum, bitchez!
Greeks will usher in the new civilization just as they did the old one.
and will take down germany just like they did in ww2
german nazi schnitzel face snow monkey!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zvl9N9GdraQ
mr panos
What did I tell you about posting while inebriated? I said not to do it, and to get some fresh oxygen to the brain along with another set of books.
You habitual drunk.
One party to bind them all: the toga party.
that's Roman, but anyway.
Did we quit when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
You're on a roll!
They may just be importing/renting Icelanders.
tooooga tooooga toooga toooooooooga tooooooooooga tooooooooooga!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I understand people are pissed off and all, but I will never understand why people vote for communists or fascists. "Yes, please, come and take all my rights away."
Because there is no other political offer on display
new film coming out this summer! "The Fascists And The Furious!"
It's called IRON SKY
http://www.ironsky.net/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Py_IndUbcxc
Democrats or Republicans - that's the way.....no infringements of liberty there - Hail the Patriot Act !
Maybe the US can give them a lecture on demokratia, poor Greeks have never heard of such a thing. Savages need to be civilized.
Your people need ZE austerity! Austerity is good for zem! They will have to leare their lesson!
Hey! We're talking about Greece, not the choice between Obama and Romney.
See Wilhelm Reich - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mass_Psychology_of_Fascism
Fascism or communism - it can't get worse in Greece.
Hmm, there's always Chaos to fall back on...
You're kidding, right?
Do you seriously suggest that the EU technocrats are "freedom loving" people who want the Greeks to enjoy life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness?
As (thank God) ZH has educated the world (I still can't believe it isn't blocked by the EU and any other country under the control of the Big Banks and Financial Mafia), the Greeks are nothing but a conduit to save the aforementioned cartels. You call being a debt slave "freedom"?
I see a number of people here who are talking about importing Icelanders - actually that attitude is exactly what is needed there, and in the US. With the White Black Obama, the Black Racist Eric Holder, Timmy the Tax Evader, GS, JPM, and the Big Ben, running the show, you may have noticed not one criminal in the aforementioned cartels is under investigation, let alone indictment, or incarcerated. You think the kleptocracy we have in the US, backed up by the totalitarian Big Sis and her underlings at DHS, the FBI, DEA, ATF, ICE, Federal Protective Services, TSA, and only God knows what secret police they have out there, is the role model for freedom?
(Did you catch the story in the Miami Herald yesterday about the practice run the DHS and para-military Dade County Police made at 1 AM on downtown Miami? You think they are doing this all around the country because of EXTERNAL targets?)
I have to admit I'm truly amazed that ZH gets through the Bamboo Curtain, the Russian Bear's internet shield, the EU's firewalls, and a host of other entities that ZH scares the hell out of (like even on Wall Street where system admins are ordered to block it - in "Freedom USA" . . . .) If the truth sets people free, I sincerely believe ZH has reached critical mass with the people that matter ("Don't ask me how many, ask me who" - Ted Turner when he first created CNN), and it is the greatest threat in the world to those who want to subjugate the populations. (Note to Mr. Durden: If you don't have a bodyguard yet, you need one.)
I say emulate the Icelanders, and tell the NWO controllers to burn in Hell, then lock the financial criminals up forever - once a psychotic sociopath, always a psychotic sociopath. I say "Go ZH!" I say, "Go ZH posters!" who should know - if they don't already - that you are targeted for being part of this subversive site (from the NWO's point of view) - but thanks for having either the courage - or the foolishness - to post away anyway!
And I say time is short . . . shorter than any of us really know. I hope you've got a personal escape plan in place.
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Is it Obama and the banks you refere to?
LOL and what's doing for your rights the democracy?
Souvlakia for all!
In a poll - which was done before 1st election, but not published before, Syriza reaches 40% "if first election wont result in a new gobberment"
mid-June? I thought the next election was to take place next Tuesday, given the fact that a government coalition cannot be formed with the current election results.
Nobody could have seen this coming..... sarc/
More of the same to follow.
Let's hope that with bank nationalizations such as in Spain people can hold the politicians feet to the fire and return banks to fudiciary sanity and serving the public versus the public servicing the banksters.
Banks as governments or governments as banks are clearly not in the public interest.
Repeal of Glass-Steagall act in the U.S. was the beginning of the end here.
Syriza is not a free market party... they are neo-Communist. Fun times ahead!
Imagine having 7 parties to choose from, all of which get representation in government.
Kind of puts America's "democracy" to shame.
Canada has 5.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_political_parties_in_Canada
3 can really be elected. And the 3 are pretty much the same. Corrupt.
"Kind of puts America's "democracy" to shame."
Yep, two political parties in the US. Ridiculous isn't it. It's not difficult to work out why the US is fucked now and will continue to be fucked until democracy returns.
It's a shame that a US civil war or nuclear war will be required. The US is just a hotbed of corruption.
PS Tyler, please delete my ID before I sell everything I own and give the money to anybody who will fuck up the worst country on the planet, that being the US.
America has only 1 party and it's the party of fascism.
But we also have the Tea Party ... :-P
The tea party is kind of fascist too, just in a different direction. The only ones who have understood that the whole system is corrupt are the Ron Paul supporters... and that's about 10-15% of the American people.
Very silly MSM propaganga repeated once again. Tea party wants to return to the original principles of the founders-limited government, no Obamacare, no social welfare state (elimination of entire depts such as education, energy, TSA etc), personal responsiblity, sound money backed by gold. A few neo-cons war mongers have attempted to infiltrate it unsuccessfully. I'm a libertarian, RP supporter, who is the godfather of the tea party. The same fabian socialists who oppose RP also oppose the tea party and its principals of limited government.
Yet, most of the Tea-party Reps in Congress voted for NDAA, PATRIOT ACT, etc. So much for "limited" Govt!
too many parties would confuse most of us (sarc)
THIS IS AWESOME!!!!
Nothing better then watching Commies vote themselves more of other people's money!
Break out the popcorm and lets watch this mother BURN!
Episode II: The Continuing Saga of Debt and Southern Europe
Episode III: The Downfall of the European Union
Episode IV: War in Europe - Currency Devaluations
Episode V: War in Europe - Germany Attacked
Episode VI: American Financial System Collapse
Episode VII: America Expands War in Middle East
Epidose VIII: China Deploys Army to African Continent
Episode IX: Russia Enter Middle Eastern War
Episode X: China Expands Control Throughout Asia
News Release November 1, 2012: Executive and Congressional Approval for Postponing 2012 Presidential Elections Until After the War(s)
Episode XI: America Releases Advanced Wartime Technology
News Release January 15, 2013: War Ends! Our Glorious Leader Obama has Declared World Peace
Episode XII: Beginnings: A New World Order
Got carried away having some fun here :)
You have to admit, at least some of the episodes are likely to occur. Episode I just finished, we are entering Episode II now. If we have a global financial meltdown then we will certainly have new and expanded wars, that's just the way it is. The scale of war is typically proportionate to the debt involved, if we compare pre WWII to now than things are much worse especially in Europe. Debt (war reparation) is definitely what caused WWII and things are considerably worse in Europe now than they were back then, the position of the players is slightly different (think Germany) but not by too much. France and GB (US to a lesser extent) were relentless trying to get Germany to pay for everything from WWI including debts incurred by other countries. Eventually France and GB entered souther Germany and had shipments of manufactured goods rerouted home. Eventually they (France mostly) stole Germany's Gold becuase they had no confidence in the currency (duh!).
In any case, as Nigel Farage said (paraphrase): "The thing that the European Union was supposed to eliminate (war, instability) it is now likely to cause." He's right, regardless of how you feel about southern Europeans (lazy, tax avoiding, etc) their perception is (correctly) that they are being unfairely treated and totally ripped off by the banks and other sovereign Governments like Germany and France. This is increasing as can be seen by the recent or projected Greek elections or the newspapers or the TV news, etc. It goes well beyond Greece into all of Southern Europe.
The same but opposite tensions exist in northern Europe, their perception (incorrecet) is that they are bailing out the lazy southern Europeans when they are in fact bailing out the banks and other financial institutions that caused the problem in the first place! Some of them (northern Europeans) understand this but not enough to make a difference, unfortunately.
This whole thing is destined to end badly and take the world down with it. The failure won't be the Europeans fault of course, it will be the financial services industry and sovereigns that perpetuated the whole cycle. It really is a war between the world (99%) and the financial services industries/corrupt governements (1%), we have to make sure that it doesn't dissolve into: "it's the immigrants fault" like it is in Greece and other countries where the right-wingers have gotten some level of control/voice. We're positioned in America to blame it on Europe and take no responsibility at all, our officials will act like it was completely caused by the crazy Europeans!
+1 That is very close to how it is all going to go down this year.
I find it rather weird that Americans LIKE the idea of a war or world war, you seem to relish the idea.
It's not difficult to work out why: WWI and WWII were not felt on the US mainland at all.
Tyler: please delete my ID, I think most ZHers are as stupid as a non educated southern christian bottom burps, well 50%of them anyway.
Um, you are allowed to send email to Tyler, ya know.
Ahhh, the rhyme of history....
If it takes Commies to Buck the Fanksters.... then by all means Greece, vote Pinko!
Don't worry. A complying interim government is being readied to be flown from bruxelles to athens right now. Just.in case the greeks get it wrong the second time too!
All these elections have to be good for the Greek economy, right?
What, Diebold has a factory in Greece?
Geez, and it's only Thursday...
+100 for the Diebold call out.
What is this about Diebold? Are these the machines easy to manipulate?
Yes they can be easily hacked.
For those who aren't familiar with the Diebold reference the HBO documentary "Hacking Democracy" is a must watch. Full movie here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVTXbARGXso
I believe the unofficial motto is "Fraud is a Feature!"
Nothing new here, elections have been rigged and purchased since the first vote was cast. A time honored tradition, only now like with everything it's being automated for a cleaner, greener world.
I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this—who will count the votes, and how.
-Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin 1923
I'm going to start my own party in Greece. NEA AVGI! NAI REI NAIII! THA TOUS GAMISOUMAI OLOUS!!!!
I am gona start a party to:On the moon called the Lunatics,anybody out for it :Pax Vomit Scums equals the marriage of bank and politics,and their Bastard child the Derivativ night crawler!
Once again Tyler has backed off from open support of the bail-out.
Well done Tyler, it's good to see that you can take criticism.
PS Can you please delete my ID. I dare to descent on occasion.
KWN: Greyerz - Investors Need To Be Positioned For More Chaos
Zero Hedge: Faber Sees A 1987-Like Crash if U.S. stocks rise without QE3
The Big Picture: Regressing To The Trend LineI ve just seen a German poll that states:
And i wonder does that actually means that there is at list a 23% that actually states "Yes we know this plan is not gonna work but you must do it!" or am i missing something in statistics ?
We humans are really a fascinating species, aren't we? :P ....