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Anti-US Protests Spread To India, Bangladesh, Indonesia

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Did we say Arab Fall? We meant global fall. From the Star Tribune: "Thousands of Kashmiri Muslims protested Friday against an anti-Islam film, burning U.S. flags and calling President Barack Obama a "terrorist," while the top government cleric here reportedly demanded Americans leave the volatile Indian-controlled region immediately. In the southern Indian city of Chennai, protesters threw stones at the U.S. Consulate, shattering some windows and burning Obama in effigy. Police quickly cleared the area, arresting more than 100 protesters. U.S. Embassy officials in Delhi did not immediately comment." And elsewhere: "In Bangladesh, about 5,000 hardline Muslims marched in Dhaka's streets after Friday prayers, burning U.S. and Israeli flags and calling for the death of the filmmaker. Police prevented them from marching toward the U.S. Embassy several miles away." And elsewhere: "In Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim nation, about 200 protesters chanted slogans and held up signs in a largely peaceful protest outside the heavily guarded U.S. Embassy in Jakarta. American diplomatic outposts increased security worldwide this week after clips of the film went viral online and sparked violent protests in the Middle East. About 20 protesters outside the U.S. Embassy in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, shouted "Allahu akbar!" and handed reporters a letter addressed to the U.S. ambassador expressing their anger over the movie and calling for greater respect for religions."

Many more coming, providing a convenient cover to launch a defensive strategy against the entire Muslim world. Or something like that.

It's all under control though. 50 or so marines are on their way.

And let's not forget the silver lining: Ben Bernanke will single-handedly "stimulate" the US economy, and this time not by diluting its currency, but by printing replacement US flags for all those being currently burned down in literally half the world, and rising.

 

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Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:13 | 2794968 SGS
Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:14 | 2794979 overbet
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The US government wants to be harder on their own citizens.

 

http://cyberwarzone.com/fbi-shows-teenagers-home-ask-about-his-ron-paul-...

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:26 | 2795090 TwoShortPlanks
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I wanna see Saudi burn too...fucking soon!!!

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:42 | 2795177 Stackers
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Nuke em all. Let Allah sort em out.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:50 | 2795227 N. B. Forrest
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More Muslims behaving badly. 

 

Nothing new. 

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:52 | 2795240 john39
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what took you hasbara guys so long?

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 12:16 | 2795372 tonyw
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Very predictable, false flag anyone??

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 16:15 | 2796819 stocktivity
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We're right and everyone else in the world is wrong.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 12:04 | 2795310 Renewable Life
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They are "demanding more respect for religion"!!! How about some fucking respect for freedom you uneducated, brain washed, pieces of shit!!!!

We are getting what we deserve with this shit though, pandering to those those fucking scumbag dictators for their fucking oil!!! This thing is so out of control, it's not even funny!!!

Going forward, we need to establish a litmus test for any Country that wants our money or help in the future, one question........"do you believe in freedom as the basis for your society"? If yes, let's talk and see if your living up to it, if no.......go fuck yourself!!!!!

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 12:09 | 2795338 john39
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start by ending support for Israel...

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 12:10 | 2795353 GeezerGeek
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As far as I can tell, Islam does not believe in, nor respect, freedom. Isn't it all about submission? Now if only the US had a government that believed in freedom!

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 13:46 | 2795868 Panafrican Funk...
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"As far as I can tell, Islam does not believe in, nor respect, freedom."

Depending on your interpretation, neither does Christianity.  In fact, those that interpret the Bible as it probably should (I read it as essentially implying the ultimate individual sovereignty of man "the kingdom of god is within you") are typically branded as heretics and "handled" accordingly.  Reference Tolstoy, Ghandi, and Martin Luther King as particularly famous examples of these "heretics", the Quakers are particularly hated by "certain interests" as well because of this stance.  Puritan WASP or death, amiright?  

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 16:01 | 2796756 Renewable Life
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Exactly right, which is why Jefferson and Adams made damn sure they envisioned a Country that was NOT run by religion in any way! But at the same time said, if you want to be fucking crazy, you have the right to and we will protect that right, however you dont have the right to control the govt or form a national religion! Because they understood power corrupts and govt power really corrupts, but religious govt power is fucking murderous, crazy corrupt (ala Iran and the boys)

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 16:04 | 2796771 blunderdog
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Yeah, you're "free" to submit to GOD.

Or...you burn in damnation for eternity.  It's your choice.

It's the same as Christianity, really.  Obviously only a loving and merciful creator would put us all here and DARE us to reject him and invoke his wrath.

"Dear Gawd, thank you for these wonderful options!" --B. Hicks

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 23:08 | 2797931 Clashfan
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As far as what is accepted as commond doctine from those three religions discussed above, the NT comes nowhere near to advocating the kind of violence and outright crap that the Talmud or Koran advocate. Nowhere near.

Saying that people who come in the name of religion have done bad things is fine. But the NT can hardly justify the kinds of behaviors that the Koran or Talmud justify.

To some of us, this is an important difference.

Sat, 09/15/2012 - 14:20 | 2798917 blunderdog
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You won't find many theocrats quoting the NT when they're trying to justify stoning fags and bombing brown people.

If the 'Murkin Xtian "right" would pay more attention to Jesus' message, they wouldn't constantly be pissing off the other 80% of the country.

Primitive fanatics gonna fanat.  Not much to do about it.

Sun, 09/16/2012 - 22:23 | 2802061 Clashfan
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True--no disagreement here, Blunder.

But my point is about the texts and how they differ. It makes me sad to see the NT get lumped in w/the other two.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 12:12 | 2795359 LULZBank
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No foreign aid?

What about those fresh printed dollars?? Where and who would spend them???

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:28 | 2795094 rqb1
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great video that kid made, thanks

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:53 | 2795245 Overfed
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I've been trying to spread this around. No affiliation.

 

http://www.graystatemovie.com/

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:19 | 2794991 TwoShortPlanks
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Fuck me if Crazy Celente didn't say all this would happen...or thereabouts.

This violence and uprising will all swing toward Banks and Jooz soon enough.

He we go again!!!

Bullish Zyklon B.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:20 | 2795032 Dr. Richard Head
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I love that man, but still wish he wasn't blindsided by MotherFUckingGlobal.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:23 | 2795062 john39
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he was trying to buy physical gold...  could have happened to anyone trying to make a bigger sized buy.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:26 | 2795087 LULZBank
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Celente, indeed is the man!!!

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:16 | 2794994 rfaze
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Wait till their food prices double because the Fed is flooding the world with dollars.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 12:14 | 2795365 MachoMan
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Hell, they're already pissed off because someone didn't allow snackbar...

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 13:41 | 2795834 Palmer Eldritch
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You do realize that they are now protesting in the very places that grow a lot of the food for that region... indonesia, Malaysia, India, etc.  These ain't deserts, these are the vertiable rice and palm fields of SE Asia and will be the strongest economies (and in the case of Malaysia one of the strongest currencies) in the world over the next 30 years.

The shit people say here...Wow.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 14:53 | 2796360 SGS
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Food?! FOOD!??? They have the new iphone 5 coming!! FOOOOD???

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:17 | 2794999 4xaddict
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we should all panic these angry mobs constitute a huge percentage of these countriies' respective populations, anarchy has befallen us.

seriously, stfu and gtfo. this is not news.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:18 | 2795018 Gene Parmesan
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These are not the angry mobs you're looking for. [/hand wave]

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:25 | 2795050 hedgeless_horseman
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About 20 protesters outside the Empirial Embassy on Mon Calamari shouted "Admiral Ackbar!" and handed reporters a letter addressed to the Empirial Ambassador expressing their anger over the trade embargo and calling for greater respect for all species."

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 14:22 | 2796141 Vlad Tepid
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They soon realized it was a trap and fell back when they couldn't repel firepower of that magnitude.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 16:07 | 2796781 blunderdog
Fri, 09/14/2012 - 12:01 | 2795291 FreedomGuy
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I think it is interesting in that these protesters indirectly tell you alot about themselves. If you saw an offensive (pick any offense) made in India, Europe or a free country would you immediately associate it with their government? We would not. I would not protest the Indian embassy if something offensive to Christianity was filmed in India. Maplethorpe did overtly purposely offensive Christian art and nothing got burnt down. Hell, we could not even stop his government funding.

My point is these people think in terms of authoritarian govenment. They assume that everything in a country is controlled and approved by the government because that is the way they operate. I think it is inculcated deeply in their culture and it comes through their religion. They have a religion based on conquest and submission and merging of government and religion. The only type of government acceptable to them is a theocracy of some sort. It raises an interesting question of whether or not they can do some form of pluralistic government as we in the West understand it. I tend to think not. In a direct democracy how many think they would immediately vote to eliminate all the Jews, Christians and other minority religions in their countries? I think they would.

I would guess it is nearly impossible to move forward on any kind of social or even technological progress. It raises real questions of whom we would support for government and even what trade relations we would want to have. I personally have recently changed my mind on what I think of dictators in the Middle East. I viscerally hate dictators everywhere. Hell, I hate bureaucrats who rule all western nations. However, only dictators seem to keep any form of peace in these countries.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 12:17 | 2795379 AnAnonymous
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'Americans' are best friends to dictators... Nothing new.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 12:29 | 2795444 FreedomGuy
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That is a shallow stupid comment. We are friends with democracies everywhere but democracies do not exist everywhere. In fact, democracies control only a small but the most prosperous parts of the globe. America, like all countries have interests. The point that I make is that perhaps dictators are the better of two evil choices in some countries. You think the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt plans on a pluralistic society that includes religious minorities or setting aside sharia law for them? From an outsider perspective a Mubarak may be better than a Mursi.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 13:03 | 2795621 Cathartes Aura
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hang on - aren't "democracies" bad??

they sure get the vitriol up in these threads - can anyone define the concept for us?  or are "democracies" good for friends of amrka, but not for the homeland?

^^

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 16:13 | 2796813 blunderdog
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"Mob rule" is GOOD when it's your preferred mob.

It's BAD when it's a mob you don't like.

Honestly, it's amazing to me how many folks here have fully bought-in to the idea that these protests/riots/attacks/wtfever are "responses" to the release of an offensive film on the Internet.

Psst: the film is just the EXCUSE.  These folks have plenty of reason to be pissed off and want to firebomb our embassies ALREADY.

LA burns about every 30 years.  Rodney King getting the black beat out of him wasn't really the CAUSE of anything. 

The firing-pin isn't what propels the projectile at 3000fps.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 23:14 | 2797945 Clashfan
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Lots of Americans speak out against our government's friendships with dicatators. You see a lot of Americans do this on these threads, yet you continue to bash us.

Chinese run over students with tanks and try to stop freedom of religion.

Do you ever have anything bad to say about China?

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 12:21 | 2795400 MachoMan
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Well, I think an ancillary part to the issue of dictators is that religious freedom/diversity is often times better under dictator rule...  if we could just get them to shut the fuck up about ending the dollar oil peg and get them to continue sending us cheap oil for freshly devalued dollars, then all would be well.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 12:59 | 2795598 Cathartes Aura
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.

They have a religion based on conquest and submission and merging of government and religion.

phew!   thankfully amrka has no leanings in that direction. . .

no history of "manifest destiny" nor murder of indigenous peoples in the name of ". . ."  because they're obviously heathens, they aren't in multiple layers of clothing to hide their shameful bodies!  and they're lazy, they only work a few hours a day tilling their soil & plants!  we can take their land 'n' stuffs, they're not real humans!  they don't look anything like our god!!

all in the name of whatever god is handy. . .

when was the last time a "non believer" held the prezydentshill office?

degrees.  it's all a matter of degrees.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 14:09 | 2796028 Panafrican Funk...
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"I viscerally hate dictators everywhere."

Bullshit.  You obviously do not hate dictators.

"However, only dictators seem to keep any form of peace in these countries."

See?  Necessary evil, right?  By the way, this is also bullshit.  Way to allow your brain to be manipulated in precisely the form they intend.  Think, man!  Think!  Your brain is your only potential source of personal sovereignty.  You have to actually do the work to ensure that potential becomes kinetic.  There are catalysts posted all over this site.  Educate yourself dude.  I'll start you off with Iran:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Game

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reza_Shah#Foreign_affairs_and_influence

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Mosaddegh

Just a small sampling of the extraordinary quantity of shit they had to deal with that's still happening right now.  I really, really hope you understand that the ME has been one big, long proxy battle between the Brits (and their US proxy) and the Russians.  Yes, I really did just call the US a proxy state for the Brits.  Hopefully by now you understand who controls our money supply.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 14:12 | 2796045 Panafrican Funk...
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Constitutional_Revolution

"THEY HATE US FOR OUR FREEDOMS"

Pretty sure they're just wondering why we keep shitting on their freedom.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 23:18 | 2797959 Clashfan
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"I don't believe in generals

or their stinking torture states.

When I talk to the survivors

of things to sickening to relate,

if I had a rocket launcher,

I would retaliate."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7vCww3j2-w 

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 23:12 | 2797938 Clashfan
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Interesting that you mention Mapplethorpe's government funding. Dave McGowan, in Inside the LC, has an interesting bit:

The most likely scenario is that Hodel committed the crime in conjunction with various others in his pedophilic, Luciferian social circle. Man Ray, for example, is a compelling suspect, given that the posing of Ms. Short’s body appears to mimic The Minotaur, one of his better-known photographs. Man Ray, by the way, was something of the Robert Mapplethorpe of his era – the same Robert Mapplethorpe, it should be noted, whom investigative journalist Maury Terry has similarly linked to the Son of Sam case and various other ritualized murders (for more on George Hodel, Man Ray and the Black Dahlia murder, see Black Dahlia Avenger by Steve Hodel [George’s son and a former LAPD homicide detective] and Exquisite Corpse by Mark Nelson and Sarah Hudson Bayliss).

 

http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr110.html

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 12:15 | 2795327 GeezerGeek
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My first thought upon seeing Obama riding a bicycle with that safety helmet was to equate that picture to one of Michael Dukakis wearing a tanker helmet back during the 1988 election.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:13 | 2794969 Quinvarius
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This is like Tet all over again.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:19 | 2795020 sushi
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This is over a cheap movie remember.

Wait until they get the message on no more cheap food!

Boy, will they be out thanking Ben & US at that time.

First they blow up our wedding parties!

And then they blow up the global economy!

And they want our thanks??

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:22 | 2795044 illyia
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Those "painless" drone strikes have had more blow-back than the 'mongers anticipated... or did they... ?

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:28 | 2795088 hedgeless_horseman
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...burning U.S. flags and calling President Barack Obama a "terrorist," 

They must want some of this...

 

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:41 | 2795175 silvermaister
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you poor retard

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:43 | 2795187 EvlTheCat
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She says that will never do.  It must be pink and brown with the Prada logo emblazoned across it.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:45 | 2795197 shovelhead
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Damn,

I needed to wash that screen anyway...

Scarier than Mike Tyson with an ear in his teeth.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 12:01 | 2795295 Canucklehead
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Ahh, the middle east.  Some things never change.  Remember the first Raiders of the Lost Ark movie?  The crowd parts and their champion steps forth to display excellent swordsmanship.  A skill crafted over his lifetime, and displayed for the world to see.

One pistol shot put an end to that and the crowd ran away.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 12:15 | 2795370 AnAnonymous
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'Americans' and their taste for fantasy...

In fact, the scene was supposed to be play through a hollywood action type scene but the 'american' actor was so tired he could not undergo the shooting and went with that move to cover for his laziness.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 13:50 | 2795887 Canucklehead
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So when does the current American Actor get tired of this sharade and go with the "move"?

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 12:01 | 2795287 Chuck Walla
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First they blow up our wedding parties!

I've seen some of those wedding parties, somebody ought to be thanking us. Maybe at least the goats, there were a lot of guys going 'stag" to those...

 

FORWARD SOVIET!

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 13:32 | 2795784 Cathartes Aura
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excellent reason to blow up the women and children!

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:36 | 2795136 NewWorldOrange
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American's need to stage their own Tet Offensive.

Let is begin here and now. Let's set the date. March 15, 2013. The Ides of March. The day Caesar was taken down. We all simply set down the Doritos, turn off the TV, and walk out into the street. Everyone. Let the crowds grow. If you're close to your city council, march. If you're close to your state capital, march on that. If you're near DC, march on that.

Against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

The enemy is domestic. They've trampled and abused every word of the Supreme Law of the Land. Through their machinations they have destroyed our way of life and will soon send us into the chasm. They must be brought to justice in the only manner possible.

March 15, 2013. Lock and load. Spread the word. Make it go viral. American Spring.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:55 | 2795256 Sofa King Confused
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Beware the Ides of March

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:59 | 2795275 TPTB_r_TBTF
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so that's why all those govt agencies loaded up on hollow points?!

TPTB r TBTF!

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 13:09 | 2795656 Cathartes Aura
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what's wrong with next week? 

or does amrka need 6 months of Doritos to get the strength to put down the remote/joystick, disengage the big screen, and lift off the cushions?

it's always "lets make some future plans" in amrka, kicking the can down the road - as modeled by the .gov.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 16:21 | 2796845 blunderdog
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I'm with you on the walking out into the street.  Let's make that shit happen.  3/15/13--it's a fuckin' date.

But if you feel the need to invoke language like "lock and load," don't think for one second that I won't sell your chimpanzee-ass out when the US SS is waterboarding me in some black-site somewhere.  You can take it for granted that AT LEAST 99% of your comrades will, too.  The flesh is weak.

Think about your words, and choose them carefully.

(+1)

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:40 | 2795160 Jack Burton
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In a way you are right. While a different ballgame, this does have the effect of a Tet moment. A sleeping American public believeing all they have been told are shocked out of their sleep by reality!

This will be infinitly harder to tamp down than Tet was. Tet needed the Marines in the north and army in the south to clean up in a few weeks with mass air support. How we gonna clean up the Muslim world!

What with a few special forces teams and drones. How has it worked so far? This may, and I say MAY, be the moment that we speed towards war.

Think of this people! Iran is a Muslim, though non-Arab state.

If the USA and Israel were to launch an attack and even invade, imagine the Muslim world's reaction!! Think a moment. The movie sparked underlying discontent, imagine what another war on a major Muslim country will do! The place will explode! Muslims will not stand for the west attacking another Muslim nation. They have had enough.

Bad news for USA Neo-Cons who hoped to fund Muslim extremists and turn them loose against Russia and China. I bet CIA agents around the Mid East are running for their lives right now!

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 12:10 | 2795342 TPTB_r_TBTF
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so whatta those Muslims gonna do? torch another fast-food restaurant?

If they wanna stand up to the Military Industrial Complex, ... then that is good for business (bullish!).  The Military Industrial Complex wants another enemy!

The Muslim seems stupid enough to be cajoled into becoming an enemy.  Gets his panties all in a wad over a cheap indy video.  The Muslim is the perfect enemy for the armaments industry.

 

Disclaimer: long armaments, long "rebuilding" companies

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 12:20 | 2795399 AnAnonymous
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A certain number of these protesters are people who were sent to jail by the previous dictators to satisfy 'american' nations.

You know, like those guys who were tortured by the CIA and given to the late Guaddafih so he could proceed on the job.

Now they are out. Probably with a grudge...

Antagonizing people can work. And 'Americans' thrive on antagonizing people because in 'american' societies, victimhood is high.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 12:40 | 2795511 TheFourthStooge-ing
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AnAnonymous, reading from the script prepared for him, said:

Antagonizing people can work. And 'Americans' thrive on antagonizing people because in 'american' societies, victimhood is high.

How telling. That makes you sound very 'American'.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 12:19 | 2795394 GeezerGeek
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I'm not sure I understand the reasoning behind equating this to the Tet offensive. That was, when viewed properly, a major loss for the Viet Cong. It was a major setback for the US only because the American press - the MSM - decided to paint it as a loss for the US policy makers. So is the MSM using this to denigrate Obama? Or what? I'm confused.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 16:24 | 2796852 blunderdog
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All you have to do to end an occupation is break the occupier's spirit.  We didn't "lose" a single engagement in Vietnam, but even the wackos don't walk around claiming we won that war.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:13 | 2794972 Dapper Dan
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It's here now!

Man claiming to be with al-Qaida called bomb threat into University of Texas at Austin, according to university - @NBCNews

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:27 | 2795091 pods
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Hung over freshman who played beer pong last night instead of studying for his exam.

pods

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:47 | 2795207 Dr. Engali
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False flags being set up.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 12:11 | 2795351 Overfed
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Yup yup!

 

I hope you are prepared.

http://www.graystatemovie.com/

 

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 13:16 | 2795691 Cathartes Aura
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just watched your movie trailer. . .

definitely will appeal to a certain demographic, should be interesting to see how far it gets in the current, and coming, climate.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 13:34 | 2795794 Dr. Engali
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Pretty good trailer. I look forward to it.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 14:13 | 2796060 Citxmech
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At this rate we might end up with some actual flags. . .

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:53 | 2795247 Poundsand
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Someone wasn't prepared for that first test of the year.  Now they have at least another 24 hours.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:14 | 2794973 Michelle
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Obama has sold us out too...by the way, where is that mad man?

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:16 | 2794997 krispkritter
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Follow the trail...campaign trail that is...

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:19 | 2795019 LULZBank
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Shut up Michelle... and get some plastic surgery.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 12:49 | 2795551 Michelle
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I won't shut up but why don't you send me some of your Monopoly money for my makeover, sure tired of wearing this paper bag over my head!

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:14 | 2794974 Dr. Engali
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It's all coming together as planned. Obama will have a hard time containing his glee wherever he may be. Is it tee time yet?

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:15 | 2794981 RacerX
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Right after morning hoops.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:17 | 2795005 Spastica Rex
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I'm reading this differently. I think BO is a goner.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:27 | 2795092 Christophe2
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I don't think he cares either way.  He's on anti-depressants and is just following orders, reading from his teleprompter.

 

His Zionist handlers, on the other hand, are very happy with the results of their movie and their plans for war and misery in the Middle East!

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 12:22 | 2795404 AnAnonymous
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I don't think he cares either way. He's on anti-depressants and is just following orders, reading from his teleprompter.
____________________

Being a servant to the 'american' middle class can stress out.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 12:43 | 2795530 TheFourthStooge-ing
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AnAnonymous condescendingly sneered:

Being a servant to the 'american' middle class can stress out.

Please, tell us more about it. I mean, you're just following orders and typing from a script, so your first-hand experience must give you a certain insight on a servant's stress.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 12:30 | 2795451 GeezerGeek
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He's on anti-depressants? I thought that white powder was Goody's Headache Powder or something similar. Is he even sentient enough to be depressed?

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:28 | 2795100 rhinoblitzing
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I'm reading this differntly - False Flags ahead (and behind) - no election - marshall law

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:46 | 2795202 Dr. Engali
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There is that possibiity too....it's certainly starting to look that way.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 12:12 | 2795363 Overfed
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Martial law. And you're correct about the false flags. Shit's getting 'interesting'. Fast.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:29 | 2795104 Dr. Engali
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I disagree. I think BO gets a second term.

"It's not the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the votes." (Josef Stalin)

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:38 | 2795150 Spastica Rex
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Well, we'll see. I certainly won't be putting any money on the outcome. ;)

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:49 | 2795217 Dr. Engali
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How about a friendly "gentlemen's" wager?

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:51 | 2795231 Spastica Rex
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I would want odds.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:56 | 2795261 pods
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Odds are we are fucked no matter which clown occupies the white house.

How's that?

pods

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 12:01 | 2795274 Spastica Rex
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Absolutely.

I care not who wins, although I do like the idea of BO losing just because he's a rat bastard and deserves it.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 12:08 | 2795335 pods
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They do seem to get this great big(ger) ego when they get in there.

With the nobel preace prize winner bombing everyone everywhere, it would make it sweet too.

I would love to see a humble president, but that trait is bred out of them way before they take the stage.

pods

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 12:19 | 2795397 Spastica Rex
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Humility, temperance, modesty, thrift - none of these are American values any longer.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 13:30 | 2795776 Cathartes Aura
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were they ever?  beyond being sold as an idea - were they ever in evidence as a nationstate?  particularly when the covert stuffs behind the curtain is added to the truth?

the only "American values" are apparently at WallyMart & the Dollah store, oh wait, the "99c" stores too!

(not picking on you, always read your posts - feeling the snark today. . .)

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 13:42 | 2795842 Spastica Rex
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Yeah, I don't know. They were the values of my parents and my grandparents. "America" as an idea is fascinating to me. Historically it's so many different ideas - that America is a single, monolithic expression of God-given freedom is one of those ideas.

I'm getting older and the world looks less and less like what I think I remember. I'm sure it's partly just part of the process of aging.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 14:47 | 2796327 Cathartes Aura
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I think the values of your family hold true for individuals, I just don't subscribe to applying them to a fiction like a "nation"

we're all getting older, and "they" don't even bother to fly the backstory flag any more, patriotism paid off in the past, but it's time to fold the flags and extend the arm for chippin' - in that I believe the next act scripted involves turning ones back on the local "nation" (dis-illusion'd), and taking up a belief in One World as the new model for "humanity" - not sure they can pull it off at this stage tho'. . .

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 15:54 | 2796722 Spastica Rex
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I don't disagree with you at all.

It does look like the concept of the nation state is reaching it's conclusion. I don't think there's enough cheap energy to support a global structure, so I believe eventually we'll see a return to smaller systems - either volantarily or involuntarily.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 17:26 | 2797061 Cathartes Aura
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Tribal.

ironic, hm.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 16:26 | 2796865 blunderdog
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My preference would be for both Obamney and Romnama to lose.

Can we make that happen somehow?  Some kinda Hegelian trick or something?

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 12:00 | 2795285 Spastica Rex
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Odds was a joke.

I like the sandwich game. I bought Kito one.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 12:10 | 2795332 jelyfish
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Fri, 09/14/2012 - 12:32 | 2795461 GeezerGeek
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His second term should be a lifelong one - in Leavenworth.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:18 | 2795012 Cognitive Dissonance
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War war war war

Time to trot out the tried and true "You don't want to switch horses midstream" bullshit.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:20 | 2795033 Spastica Rex
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And I don't think America ever has.

But I still think he's a goner. War is a Hail Mary at this point. I certainly don't put it past them.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:26 | 2795084 john39
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this is bigger than the puppet that currently occupies the white house....  this is cabal trying to light the world on fire to cover its tracks and maintain control from behind the scenes...  plan on things getting hot around the world, and eventually in the U.S., just as has been predicted by people like celente.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:44 | 2795191 Spastica Rex
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The presidential contnders are more like trained dogs (or chickens) than puppets: they're fighting for real. But I agree with you completely, the real action is behind the scenes and often hard to inteperet based solely on the actions of the trained animals. I'm watching the price of gas as the signal on which dog/chicken gets to win. Maybe I'm being simplistic.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:56 | 2795260 john39
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yeah, not sure it matters anyway... both are fascists and answer to same overlords...  i think the winner depends on which ones the overlords believe will be more effectively used to control the serfs...   the red branch or the blue branch of the party, at least for the next few years...   my bet, neither is going to work this time...  this will spin out of control, but in a good way for hummanity.  sometimes killing a deeply embedded parasite gets a little messy.  and humanity has one hell of a parasite sucking at its soul.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:46 | 2795114 Mercury
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As it became unfashionable for, especially powerful countries to win wars, the US just rebuilt its business model around losing wars. Certain interested parties can still make a bundle off of munitions, equipment, government contracts etc. even if their side loses the war and has a negative ROIC.

The government throws a few bones to the patriot and nation building interest groups plus there's the inevitable refugee status, resettlement and finger-lickin’ entitlements for the collateral damage to make it look like humanitarian considerations are #1.

But the fact is it's better to win wars or not fight them at all.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:46 | 2795201 Spastica Rex
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Very astute.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 12:13 | 2795328 chunga
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The US govt. seems to be as popular abroad as it is at home.

The rest of America’s recent military conflicts either consisted of or centered around a bombing campaign, and generally fall into one of two categories: strategic spoiling attacks, and attempts to bolster the presidential manhood. A strategic spoiling attack is a preventive action against a potential enemy who, if left unchecked, might attack you some time in the future. It is more or less a bullying tactic, and, as such, already an admission of defeat on the diplomatic front. One should prefer to live among strong friends, not weakened enemies. Presidential manhood-bolstering bombing campaigns have come from both sides of the political spectrum (not much of a spectrum, it turns out, since both sides are shades of ultra-violent). There was the bombing of Panama, ostensibly to punish the apostate CIA asset Manuel Noriega, but really to mitigate against Bush Senior’s so-called “wimp factor.” There was also Clinton’s despondent bombing of an aspirin factory in the Sudan and the bouncing around of some rocks in Afghanistan, ostensibly to punish terrorists for bombing US embassies in East Africa, but really to express frustration over the inordinate difficulties faced by the leader of the free world as a result of procuring oral sex. I feel his pain, but, to paraphrase Freud, sometimes a cruise missile isn’t just a cruise missile.

 

It may appear that the US military is not capable of prevailing over any enemy, no matter how badly armed, demoralized or minuscule. While the Koreans and the Vietnamese were formidable, the US military could not bring to heel even the starving Somalis with their pickup trucks full of narcotic cud-chewing, Kalashnikov-toting youths. Nor could they pacify the Iraqis, even after softening them up with bombs and sanctions for more than a decade. There is one notable exception. If we look at any of the military conflicts that involved the US military since World War II, there is one that stands out as a complete success: the liberation of the tiny Caribbean island of Grenada. There, valiant American troops dislodged an unsavory and frightening Marxist regime which was supported by Cuba and Nicaragua and replaced it with a democratic, pro-American regime, much to the satisfaction of Grenada’s Caribbean neighbors and cruising yachtsmen alike.

Orlov, Dmitry (2011-05-31). Reinventing Collapse: The Soviet Experience and American Prospects (Kindle Locations 845-850). Perseus Books Group. Kindle Edition.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 12:36 | 2795484 GeezerGeek
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But...but...we've been told over and over again that with Obama in charge we're loved and respected all over the world. Unlike under Bush. Does this indicate that we've been lied to? That they still hate us for our freedom?

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 13:00 | 2795601 JuliaS
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US is as good at waging wars as Uwe Boll is at making movies. Both figured out quality wasn't necessary for turning a profit.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 13:42 | 2795839 Cathartes Aura
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while I follow your line of thinking with regards winning and losing wars, and who profits - I think those war machines that manufacture killing stuff don't bother themselves with "believing" in nationstates, beyond positioning themselves to sell to anyone, even when forbidden by laws.

the truth is that these multinational corporations of death care not who is waving what flag - bottom line is arming for war - not the outcomes.

it's up to the inhabitants of each paddock to identify with their particular flag & backstory, and get on with the business of killing each other, and dying. . .

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:26 | 2795085 rhinoblitzing
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According to the economic text books, war was always great at bring economies out of the doldrums.

Especially the manufacturing industrial complex....

Drop ship direct from china and vietnam - and send us the bill.

We just got a new line of credit.

 

Martin Sheen: "Who's in charge here?",

Unknown Soldier: "I thought you were"  - Apocalypse Now

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 12:00 | 2795282 Sofa King Confused
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One of the best movies ever made

 

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 13:34 | 2795790 Uncle Remus
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Just watched it again for the upteenth time. First time with headphones - interesting nuances I missed before.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 13:17 | 2795657 Glass Steagall
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Martin Sheen: "Who's your commanding officer?",

Unknown Soldier: "Aint you?"  - Apocalypse Now

There. Fixed it.

 

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 16:29 | 2796881 blunderdog
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I've always identified with The Roach.

I know who's in command here.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:55 | 2795258 Uncle Remus
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Why change Mullahs in the middle of Jihad

At least our Hussein is only half mad.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:14 | 2794975 TwoShortPlanks
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Bullish guns and ammo

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:16 | 2794993 Vegamma
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Bullish property insurance

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:25 | 2795075 Henry Chinaski
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Long USMC

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:14 | 2794976 RacerX
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Good thing all that "Foreign Aid" we're pumping into these countries is having a positive impact.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:39 | 2795147 CPL
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Let no good deed go unpunished.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:14 | 2794978 kito
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release the drones!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..................

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:33 | 2795126 CPL
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Drones need a place to launch from that's safe, a large antenna, a large building full of engineers and the one single item hindering the Drone expansion plans

Jet plane fuel.  It's getting tight in a slim picking market.  With refinery capacity down to 1% of it's placement four years ago, Drones and anything that flys will be abandoned.  Anything that requires, high test, high octane, high processing anything will have to be abandoned.  How silly is that.  Money down a hole again.

 

Just google jet plane fuel shortage.  The TPTB have gone out of their way to nuke the offensive articles which counter act their hegemony but google cache is still there.

 

As a point, this actually doesn't make anyone "less" secure because the problem is global and not just reserved for the USAF, every one is getting it between the eyes.  Couple more years and it'll cost a fortune to spin the prop on a Cessna for a couple of hours.  Engine design can't change much on planes, jets or drones either to provide efficient power distribution to keep the plane moving.  Tricks in aerodynamics and wing structure might keep a plane defying gravity, but they tend to drop like a rock without the lift given by either the prop or jet engine.  

 

Put yourself in the shoes of any USAF command, Chinese AF or Russian AF, for the last four years your operational expenses on just fuel are now 80% of your costs with a shrinking refinery capacity due to age or the complete absence of fuel.  With QE3, it's nail in the coffin time for all security groups.  Security and military depend on rapid response and mobilization, they need fuel to push all that equipment around with guys in them.  No fuel...no central reaction response.

 

If it plays out like the English economic collapse during Roman times, the local bases get cut off and dumped with soldiers and commands in them and promptly told "good luck".  In Englands case the Mercinaries deployed to keep the British tribes under boot, were then soldiers of fortune took over, killed/co-opted the leadership and today we have the Anglos and the conept of Prima Nocta.  Interesting stuff and closest example to an outcome I can figure on what happens with all those deployed to bases in a collapsing military empire.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:45 | 2795195 Jack Burton
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Interesting CPL. The time of Roman Britain and especially the collapse and anglo take over is my favorite historical subject. Can you recommend any good reading on that subject.

Britain flourished at a time when the barbarians were all over Gaul. The channel provided cover and allowed the great villa building era. Late Roman Britain was a ripe target.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 12:06 | 2795324 CPL
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On the Shelf reading...

 

http://www.amazon.com/The-Story-Britain-Present-Narrative/dp/039332902X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1347638105&sr=8-1&keywords=British+history <--- A must own.

http://www.amazon.com/English-History-Brief-Irreverent-Pleasurable/dp/0897335473/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1347638105&sr=8-3&keywords=British+history  <---This is a great book

http://www.amazon.com/Great-Tales-English-History-Extraordinary/dp/0316067571/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1347638105&sr=8-4&keywords=British+history  <-- awesome

http://www.amazon.com/Tales-Tower-London-Daniel-Diehl/dp/0750934972/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1347638105&sr=8-13&keywords=British+history <--- not the timeline you would be looking for because it's modern brit history, but so many cool stories...the Tower of London = badass.

All of the titles I found at the library and used book stores.  If one thing about having a large demographic of Boomer out there, when they die, their book collections go up for sale for pennies on the dollar.  A little ghoulish, but great for creating a nice library of reference material on any subject and place in history.

 

Then the google scholar thing I go poking around and read stuff from the PhD's picking their asses and writing papers.  Word of warning...there is a LOT of nonsense in there.  Give it the three page test.  Find a disseration, read the first three pages, no hook means forget it.  I'm surprised at how poor the writting is at the PhD level sometimes over the past decade.  There are more basement historians that poke at this stuff that do a better job on the blogs than the Ivory Tower crowd.

 

Very neat stuff, the stories and examples I've found on blogs are excellent more often than not.  Plus the guys running them love the subject matter and will gush about anything.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 12:26 | 2795430 rqb1
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bernard cornwall's books

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 12:46 | 2795543 CPL
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He's a good author period.  The man can write.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:53 | 2795249 billsykes
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Just got to swap out the engines from AV gas to pump gas- rotex and all the other small engine manufacturers have been making for yrs. big deal.

Besides the US army will eat, gas up, and come first before any civilian anything. There is no shortage for the US army. Even if civy pay a buck more a gallon over the price  and you can have as much gas as you want. 

 

The biggest problem that the US has is not the money printing but the fact that the booty doesn't go into the government coffers.

The booty is coming from the wholesale theft of taxpayer cash, to sloppily fund the wars and is going into the pockets of corporations and people who don't pay tax.

If they were to do it old school, after they invaded would have tendered out the bids for oil with a healthy chunk kept as a royalty for the US govt, drop the democracy farce and just had at all of iraq's resources, the old pillage and loot. Sumerian antiquities on sale at Sotheby's for the US govt, that kind of thing. put everyone in prison there in iraq, make them make handbags, just like they do in the US prisons.

Same with the opium, cocaine, and all the other drugs and contraband that only the CIA has a hand in, give daddy a taste. That's what England did with the east india company, they owned shares in the company and help with finance and gun boats for their "democracy" program.

 

Bottom line is that the USA has got to get back to basics if it wants to continue to dominate and invade at will. Keep a better leash on its minions from stealing from her. 

 

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 12:48 | 2795407 CPL
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Back to basics means a ground war, something that the army has avoided at all costs since Vietnam.  Nearly every engagement after Vietnam has been heavy air strike, followed by mobile artilery.  The guys that went to Vietnam were true blue Yankee, built Tonka tough and the locals chewed on them like bubble gum.  Fast forward fourty years.  The generation difference is the main problem.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/04/20/military.fat.fight/index.html

 

The kids joining the army today have some subtle differences.  Their hand eye co-ordination might be better, but their waistlines are double along with their weight and the worst thing.  They are soft as butter.  Versus the guys deployed in Vietnam, start working at 15 (like we all did), well built, healthy.  Education was worth something and it didn't take repeat training because the majority candidates are literate and came with real technical skills like hygiene.

There have been lots of concerns about it in the US, Russia and China.  Their new generation of kids like eating and iPads too much.  In the Russian case, chronic and fatal alcohol disease.  In China, black lung...seriously that's how bad it is over there for pollution.  There is one thing you'll never see in Chinese basic reg, 5 mile run.  Shit, Chinese government ships their Olympic athletes to Canada for training because of the pollution.  Carleton University could have been renamed Beijing/Moscow University last year with all the kids training there.

 

 

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 13:02 | 2795618 GeezerGeek
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Random thoughts:

Americans in the early 60s may have been in better shape for several reasons. First, there were many more stay-at-home moms cooking for their families, feeding them healthy foods. Fast food and takeout was much less common back then. Second, there was a big push for physical fitness when JFK became president. I remember how funny it was right after the first fitness tests at my high school. All the guys had to do pushups, situps, etc. For several days about 75% of them couldn't stand up straight or laugh because their stomach muscles were all sore from the unaccustomed activity. 

As for a ground war - I haven't followed the Army much, but I'm under the impression that we have a seriously reduced number of brigades/divisions compared to earlier generations. In WW II the US fielded what - hundreds of divisions? Ditto Germany and the USSR. Now we have what - maybe 20 or less? The equipment is far better, and the combat training is probably much better, but can quality offset lack of quantity in a ground war? How would 100 Abrams tanks do against 5000 T34/85s? We avoid large ground units now because nukes make massed armies useless.

I used to follow this stuff back through the 70s. Now I can only ask questions about military matters, since I pay far more attention to financial weapons than military ones.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 14:05 | 2796007 Cathartes Aura
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I'm not so sure "fitness" is even necessary or desired in military clubs anymore.

with biowarfare one only needs to sit in a vehicle/aircraft, and spray, or release whatever toxic pest they're currently experimenting with.

of course real blowback means all troops are exposed, but those who run the show don't care - everyone's a target for their tests now.

the next world wars will be won in the labs, like Ft. DeTrick'd.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 14:41 | 2796277 billsykes
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They were also smaller- ever try on a vintage jacket?

But really its that the US doesn't want to win. In every conflict they tie one hand behind their back.  City and street by street warfare is hard and with no uniforms, even more difficult, but still. Look to Berlin in 1933 it was a 4.2m pop.  compare to baghdad in 4.9m in 2001.  All the BS about preserving infrastructure is BS, nothing works there now.

 

Did it take 10 yrs to conquer the city of Berlin?

They want to lose.

If they wanted to win they would bomb the city in the the fucking ground. They already don't abide by Geneva conventions, torture, use banned munitions, kill civilians, so why not just win? its not like the press will "uncover" the truth- all the media guys are embedded anyhow.

 

They want to lose.

I don't think it is about the oil, because if it was then those kurd land auctions would have actually had a bidder or not gone for so cheap to a foreign company (Canadian).

If it was really about the oil the US would take a piece instead of giving it to the new democratically elected govt of iraq.

Its about the leaders of america and their backers wanting to breaking the back of America, I think that war is the easiest way to squander lots of money and bring america to the breaking point to kill all its citizens and divide the country.  All of the actions in the last 100 yrs indicate this, every president, every war/conflict, new spending program, new govt. department (do you know how many new security departments were created since 2001) and with every year, has been spent trying to break america.

On the other hand, even though most americans are sleepwalking thru their lives it has taken a while to break the back of the spirit of the american people and its founding laws. That to me is sadly admirable.

 

 

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 16:35 | 2796904 blunderdog
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   Just got to swap out the engines from AV gas to pump gas- rotex

Are you saying you can fuel jets with *gasoline*?  Got any references for how that would work mechanically?

I've never heard of such a thing.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 17:32 | 2797093 billsykes
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Dawg, drones don't use jets, its prop power.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 17:37 | 2797119 blunderdog
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OK, but how do you get the drones into target range?

You replied to a guy talking about jet-fuel--I was just checking.  Who the hell knows, what with all this amazing technological wizardry these days?

I hear the Cato Institute is THIS CLOSE to figuring out how to power an aircraft carrier with bullshit.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 19:05 | 2797357 CPL
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Jet fuel and any high octane fuel.  Sweet light crude refined to the nth degree with "extra" kick.

 

Last thing you want if flying around is less than average fuel.  Stick "Oil" sands slop into a plane without some serious maintantence after every flight, it's just asking for trouble.  I understand that nobody is flying physically.  It's when 50 million falls out of the sky with an engine stall because the two cylinders lock up.  While it's falling it'll give enough time for the radio operator/pilot to do what?

 

1)  Make sure the payload doesn't explode?

2)  Falls on something or someone, range is limited on the drones so it's more than likely a case of the controller dropping the drone into their own air field?

3)  Update the resume and post on Monster for destroying a piece of equipment worth more than ten senior staff members?

 

Engines are well built, well designed...but without premium fuel in a plane a person couldn't have the confidence to promise anything.  They are high performance engines.  High performance engines need high octane fuel and so far that technology is reserved for sweet light crude.  Stick that Bitumen Oil in a plane or anything that flys, lol.  It's good for making well built roads, hence tar sands.  

Something as Tonka tough as a tractor, you can run a tractor with anything combustible...for a while.  But eventually the entire tractor has to be flushed from top to bottom and rebuilt with Tar sands oil.  So it's not a big deal when a tractor stalls, you stop the tractor and go get another tractor to move it.

 

When a plane, drone, helicopter, missle...anything with high octane or high density fuel...like a rock.  To flush a plane engine top to bottom, make sure the intake valve doesn't get stuck because of gunk, or the lines don't goop up ( stop me if I'm getting too technical here, lol ).  Believe me, the offerings for oil replacement are pieces of shit.  Nothing as useful, flexible, controlable or available as sweet light crude.  Nothing.  Not even nuclear.  It will be a shame when it's gone soon.

 

What  I have been trying to figure out what's going to fill that MASSIVE volume of air because once a well is dripped dry...especially somewhere like the middle east which that giant pocket of nothing sits.  All it would take is a major Earthquake to collapse support under a drilled area the size of half of africa that covers the entire MENA area, Asia minor and half of Europe.  

It'll make the grand Canyon look like a pot hole.  They've been filling it with sea water to float the oil to the surface (oil floats on water)...but that eventually will stop when the energy stops, the pumps cease and the safety procaution of filling the volume with something else will drain away.  Think it's an accident the Red, Black and Caspian seas are low or gone?  Nope.  

When the energy to make the pumps stop filling the Oil wells with salt water and the structural support of the water drains away, it'll be spectacular...nothing to be done about it though.  As a spieces we are very good at painting ourselves into a corner. 

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 19:48 | 2797522 blunderdog
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   fill that MASSIVE volume of air

Aw, I think you're being silly.  They're pumping the oil out of ROCKS. 

Any fluid nearby will eventually leach into the rock you've "emptied."  It won't take that long, even in the desert, to refill with water.  They could use hydro-fracking to push the oil out of the rocks when a well production slows, too, eliminating any POSSIBILITY of rocks being filled with "air." 

Water's still cheap.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:19 | 2794982 Mercury
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Long US flags...

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:47 | 2795206 Jack Burton
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Yes, they sent fifty Marines to Libya. I bet a lot more are loading on planes right now!

All it needs is US Marine embassy guards to mow down a few Muslims and god knows where this thing goes.

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 11:58 | 2795270 Jethro
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The MSG's role is to secure classified materials.  Not to play duck hunt with jihadis on walls. 

Now, lets lighten up the mood here! 

http://www.duffelblog.com/2012/09/following-cultural-awareness-class-marines-burn-down-own-embassy/

Fri, 09/14/2012 - 12:01 | 2795290 N. B. Forrest
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A few?  I'm voting for mowing down evey Muslim that gets within 100 yards from the embasy. 

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