Appeasement Arrives: Joint US-Israel Exercise Postponed For "Budget Reasons", US Will Not Enforce No Fly Zone Over Syria

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First we had news that out of the blue, the Western embargo against Iranian oil exports would be delayed by 6 months, and now, in the aftermath of last night's developments out of Iran which blamed the CIA for the murder of its nuclear scientist we get this (from Bloomberg):

  • ISRAEL, U.S. POSTPONE MILITARY EXERCISE, ISRAEL RADIO SAYS
  • JOINT EXERCISE POSTPONED FOR BUDGET REASONS, RADIO SAYS
  • U.S.-ISRAELI EXERCISE PLANNED TO BE BIGGEST EVER, RADIO SAYS
  • EXERCISE WAS TO TAKE PLACE IN NEXT FEW MONTHS, RADIO SAYS

And just so it doesn't look like a total cave in:

  • ISRAEL SAYS JOINT U.S. MILITARY EXERCISE STILL UNDER DISCUSSION

As a reminder Iran made it very clear an escalation in joint US-Israel war game cooperation would be met with yet another miliary exercise out of Iran.

And in other news, in response to the latest discovery that Russia not only was using Syrian ports to park its military ships, but to supply the locals with ammunition we get this:

  • AGUE SAYS NOT LOOKING AT NO-FLY ZONE OVER SYRIA

So how long until the word "appeasement" makes its way into the popular jargon yet again.

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Sun, 01/15/2012 - 12:14 | 2066185 GeneMarchbanks
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12 Down: A five letter word for running out of money and/or credit?

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 12:21 | 2066215 LetThemEatRand
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Obama

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 12:23 | 2066221 john39
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the troops and equipment are all in place already, no?  so the exercises were used to justify the buildup.  now they sit, armed to the teeth and ready, just in case a false flag "unexpectedly" happens...

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 12:24 | 2066222 LetThemEatRand
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It seems so obvious, yet 90% of the public would accuse you of an affinity for tin foil.

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 13:41 | 2066431 trav7777
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they sank that cruise ship.  OBVIOUS CIA/Mossad false flag, probably with MI6

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 14:04 | 2066507 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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The thing about false flags is they are meant to blame a specific entity.  So who will be blamed for this?

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 14:12 | 2066528 MsCreant
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You can't tell with Trav, but I thought he was joking.

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 15:00 | 2066638 wanklord
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Expose the wicked intentions the Zionist warmongers and the Soetoro administration have in mind of igniting a war in the Persian Gulf. The phrase these misanthropes hate most is called FALSE FLAG.

Israeli submarines deployed in the Sea of Oman will sink an American warship that happens to be navigating close to the Strait of Hormuz - an attack to subsequently be blamed on Iran. Most likely one of these Zionist submarines (Type 800 Dolphin class) is already operating in the Sea of Oman:

INS Dolphin

INS Livyathan

INS Tekumah

Another plausible way by which Barry & Associates (including the Zionist warmongers) could justify a war against the Islamic Republic of Iran is by staging another FALSE FLAG ATTACK on continental United States: a controlled nuclear explosion (dirty bomb) targeting a major urban concentration that may kill dozens of thousands of civilians. This operation will be carried out by the CIA in partnership with Israel's Mossad and British MI6 to subsequently be blamed on elements of Iran’s IRGC.

SPREAD THE WORD: FALSE FLAG

Educate the masses about what FALSE FLAG operations are all about

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 15:09 | 2066657 MsCreant
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I do believe that ZH has just been the victim of a False Fag attack.

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 15:18 | 2066676 Canaduh
Sun, 01/15/2012 - 15:24 | 2066690 MsCreant
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Gosh and I just thought "False Fag" for the troll Wanklord (who, by the way, is Wanking on your punk ass) was fucking funny...

A real fag I would never actually harass.

I hate explaining my jokes.

FUUUCK!

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 15:29 | 2066706 Canaduh
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Here's a better link, sorry.

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/01/13/false_flag?page=full

Oh, and fuck you.

 

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 15:45 | 2066730 MsCreant
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That's cool, but did you get my joke, False Fag? Get it?

See the Wanklord is a performance artist. Whatever point of view he is putting out there he is spoofing. He does not really believe it. So what that means is that you got suckered in. Now you get it? By trying to defend him and sell me on it, you are just digging it deeper. Wanklord does not believe this stuff. He is mocking those who do. It is irrelevant if I believe it or not. The wanker was wanking you.

Are we all caught up now?

I'll go fuck myself later, or better yet, I'll get help from a loved one.

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 16:20 | 2066752 Canaduh
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Yes, I got your lame joke the first time.

Yes, I know how the trolls operate on this board. I'm not 10 years old, and I don't need your self aggrandizing explanations.

I was trying to counter his obvious lampooning of those who believe in false flags with a link to a legitimate article discussing just that. I don't care if I am 'wanked' or not. (PS,in the text of my original post,  I was 'wanking' those who do not believe in false flags)

I was hoping you wouldn't drag this out further.

I'll go fuck myself later, or better yet, I'll get help from a loved one.

If I had said 'go fuck yourself' I suppose that wold have been a witty comeback. Reading comprehension is not one of your strengths.

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 16:21 | 2066807 MsCreant
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Isn't it interesting, the need to over explain and drag it out? 

The Wanklord is indeed Lord. I defer all the glory to the Wankster. We are both but Wankfodder in the great Wankfest that is his.

 

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 16:29 | 2066818 Canaduh
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Not necessarily, maybe someone new to his tactics will read our spat, and figure a few things out. His attempt to muddy the waters may have clarified it a bit for some.

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 17:23 | 2066967 financial apoca...
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Canaduh ur a retard
MS creant was trolling you now do I have to explain that by going thru the whole process again

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 17:47 | 2067011 Canaduh
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Actually Mr. 3 weeks 3 days, MsCreant has been contributing to this forum long enough for me to know she is not a troll, she just had a bone to pick. You however....

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 21:30 | 2067524 philipat
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Somebody finally pointed out to Obama that re-election and 5 Dollar gas are not mutually consistent?

Mon, 01/16/2012 - 01:33 | 2067995 CompassionateFascist
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MsCreant is a "sleeper" agent.

Mon, 01/16/2012 - 13:46 | 2068934 matrix2012
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Canaduh, appreciate your FALSE FLAG links!

note when dealing with trolls...

"Don’t argue with Idiots.. They will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience" :D 

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 15:23 | 2066691 PY-129-20
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Don't look at me. We just export those things. New Dolphin Class ships for Israel and 200 of the newest Leopard Tanks for SA (I still would prefer the M1A2 - of course the cannon was also made by Rheinmetall).

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 15:53 | 2066744 Slartebartfast
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He's not joking.  He's a troll.

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 21:55 | 2067583 StychoKiller
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How's the fiords on Earth V2.0 coming along? :>D

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 15:02 | 2066642 Snidley Whipsnae
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Trav777... You ommited Gold Finger, Odd Job and Pussy Galore.

Mon, 01/16/2012 - 13:28 | 2068880 matrix2012
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the plot will get much higher credibility if 'they' ever sacrifice one or two aircraft carriers there. having eleven losing two isn't a really big deal. 

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 13:48 | 2066452 PaperBear
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Pavlovian response.

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 16:25 | 2066812 akak
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Speaking of Pavlovian responses, was anyone else rather offended by the misleading and disingenuous (used that word just for you, WonderDawg) headline of this story?  Since when did the slight relaxation of grossly unjustified saber-rattling and warmongering provocation come to constitute "appeasement"?  For a second there, I thought I was reading Paul Wolfowitz or Bill Kristol(nacht), not Tyler Durden.

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 12:26 | 2066224 Caviar Emptor
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Or a false-false flag (even trickier)

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 12:42 | 2066267 jerry_theking_lawler
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So, when exactly are the two CVN (carrier groups) parked in the persian gulf region coming home??

 

oh wait, they aren't.....we have 3 other more super carriers under construction or on order for continued for 'dominance'....

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 12:53 | 2066292 Oh regional Indian
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Where ever this coming war get's played out (it is a game after all), it will be remembered for the great failure of THE white elephants of the Sea, the fabled aircraft carrier.

I've served on one, much smaller than anything the size of these behemoths, and it was a behemoth. And a white elephant. 

Nice to be above deck on a starry night and all that, but Guzzle Guzzle. And it's hand maiden's in tow.

It's a fractal world, Naval wars will be fought above and below the surface. And in agile man-machine combinations.

Most floating crap is just that, crap.

ori

pyr-cone-amid/

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 13:02 | 2066315 Snidley Whipsnae
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Right on Ori... In deep water there are only two types of vessels. Submarines and targets.

I spent a lot of time in the navy looking for the former... we had little success finding them.

BTW, a modern nuke powered sub is a hell of a lot faster than most would believe.

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 13:10 | 2066345 SamAdams1234
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http://youtu.be/KUpNX2c0sLY

Think before committing.

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 13:30 | 2066396 Oh regional Indian
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Hah, a navy Man. Precisely SW. Up on high or deep below.

So many new stealth subs. And because they are so secret, no one has even seen them. Mini subs, mini nuclear subs....coatings, propulsion systems... and then the missiles. Mach 6. Intelligent. Full evasion systems. Asymmetric flight patterns. Super long range. Super skimmers. Torpissiles....

It's going to be a heck of a show in the water, that is for sure.

ori

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 13:41 | 2066429 mick_richfield
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Isn't Mach 6 cruise something that only got tested last year (and then only with partial success) ?

I think the 64 trillion dollar question right now is whether Phalanx ship defense system can defeat a Mach 2.5 Oniks missile.  And I -- would not want to bet on it.

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 17:34 | 2066988 bonderøven-farm ass
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The Phalanx is a joke....It's loud and shakes the deck like hell, but it sure as shit isn't taking out any missles.  Unless the tracking devices have improved dramitically since my Gulf tour, I'd consider them all but worthless.....

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 19:50 | 2067232 mick_richfield
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Thanks! 

I assume that on aircraft carriers these systems are up at the flight deck level, although I can't see them in any pictures.  If they are, say 150 feet above sea level, then when a mach 2.5 missile comes over the horizon, the Phalanx would have 28 seconds to impact.  From the time the weapon enters Phalanx effective range, it has about 4 seconds to impact.

Dang.

I think the flattops -- need lasers.  Or something.

Mon, 01/16/2012 - 01:38 | 2068003 CompassionateFascist
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Y'all missed the point. When the target is a carrier, there'll be scores of missiles incoming. Defense saturated. Some will hit deck and superstructure. Ditto w torpedoes/suicide boats. Some will hit hull. First US carrier thru the straits is going down. That, in fact, is the script. No false flag necessary.

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 14:15 | 2066535 Snidley Whipsnae
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Ori, up on high. First P2V Neptunes and then P3 Orions. Both land based... too big to operate off carriers... Thus, the need for many fields to operate from in the Med/Mid East. We shared fields with Greeks, Azores, Canadian Maritimes, Italians, Malta, Puerto Rico, Crete, Spain, various N African countries, England, Ireland, France (quietly), Cyprus, Turkey... You name it, we were there.

Lots of stuff went down that didn't make the news...and I can't say much about it.

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 15:21 | 2066687 Oh regional Indian
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Interesting SW. I'm having flashbacks of my days in white. Quite the experience, on so many levels.

ori

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 13:40 | 2066425 WmMcK
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Whose subs were you looking for?  Once upon a time you could locate the ones from the USSR with a TLD (even without sonar).

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 13:45 | 2066442 Oh regional Indian
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I think you just dated yourself.

Remember the Chinese Sub that caem up in LA harbour? And near a US ship in exercise too? Very recently?

ori

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 17:05 | 2066927 RichardP
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Perhaps there is some use in letting the Chinese think we didn't see them ... when in fact we did?

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 21:59 | 2067595 StychoKiller
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Wheels within wheels within ...

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 14:27 | 2066566 Snidley Whipsnae
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"Whose subs were you looking for?"

................................

Mostly CCCP, sometimes others. I cannot discuss methods, equipment. Like I said, nuke subs are extremely fast. Running a solution for a nuke boat is unfair to any above surface opponent.

I'm sure technology is much better now... but our equipment wasn't shabby. A nuke can run at better than half the speed of an aircraft attempting to resolve location. Think about that.

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 16:26 | 2066820 weinerdog43
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"Whose subs were you looking for?"

These aren't the subs you were looking for.  <waves hand>

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 14:05 | 2066512 Jack Burton
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I had the same experience Snidley. Though I began as a submarine sonar technician later getting booted up to surface ships for medical reasons. Still, it was amazing to experience it from both sides.

You are correct, when a well run boat does not want to be found, it is rarely found! In expercises, it was common to hide from the surface ASW awhile and then expose ourselves so they had a target to practice on. Most times we decided if we wanted to be detected.

 

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 14:34 | 2066581 Snidley Whipsnae
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Jack Burton... Exactly my experience.

Once a year we would go to Rosy Roads Pureto Rico for two weeks to work with nukes in deep water.

They toyed with us. lol

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 17:25 | 2066679 Manthong
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So, anybody know if we ever did anything to replace the VP Navy and SOSUS?

Sun, 01/15/2012 - 22:05 | 2067617 StychoKiller
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Signs point to yes.

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