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Are You Better Off Than You Were Four Years Ago?

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The phrase "Are You Better Off Than You Were Four Years Ago?" and "It’s the Economy, Stupid" have become standards of American election discourse in recent decades. And seemingly for good reason. Although it is rare to unseat an incumbent, poor economic performance seems to play a role. We are less than four months away from the US Presidential election. Financial and economic developments have caused surprise political outcomes around the world from time to time.  UBS took a look back at the first terms of the nine presidents that preceded President Obama to determine if the performance of economic variables had any predictive power in determining the odds of re-election for a second term. The news is not good, from GDP growth to real disposable income, and from unemployment to the Misery Index, it seems the bailer-out-in-chief may just have an uphill battle.


The data suggest that economic growth plays a role in a candidate’s ability to win a second term. Real GDP grew slower under George HW Bush than all the other nine presidents, followed by his son, followed by Ford (when comparing compound annual growth rates). Real disposable personal income was even more definitive, growing at the slowest pace under the three presidents who were unseated (George HW Bush, followed by Ford, followed by Carter). With one more quarter left to be reported before the election, under Obama’s first term as president, real GDP is running slower than any of his predecessors, expecting only George HW Bush, and real disposable personal income is the slowest of any of his predecessors since 1953, running at 1.5% and 0.7%, respectively.

Unemployment also rose over Ford’s and George HW Bush’s presidencies by more than any of the others, and ticked up some under Carter’s.


Inflation has been relatively tame under Obama, but the misery index has risen. However, the misery index rose in 6 of the last 9 presidencies.


Critically though - given our recent chart on Obama Odds vs the S&P - Financial markets are less definitive in predicting the presidential outcome. Of the three candidates that were unseated after their first term, only Ford saw a decline in the S&P over his tenure.


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Fri, 08/10/2012 - 14:13 | 2694749 Meesohaawnee
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wait. this cant be.. Bloomberg is saying the opposite. Whos right?? . Who just cashed a check from the committe to re elect the president. ??

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 14:16 | 2694754 Seer
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Once again people are fixated on the puppets rather than the string-pullers.  I see no real difference in string-pullers coming any time soon, so all will just continue along as it has, until that is, we broach the cliff.

If you look at the wealth accumulated by the current sitting puppet's string-pullers you'll see that they've gotten him to do a rather stellar job.  And THEY, the string-pullers, are the ones doing the "voting," all the rest of us just represent inert filler.

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 15:46 | 2695085 aheady
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The only sensible comment in this entire thread.

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 17:44 | 2695483 DeadFinks
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Why can't "puppets" be crooks too?

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 17:58 | 2695524 monad
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Because they pardon themselves... and their familes. Which is probably how the draft dodger got blackmailed into running a born to lose campaign against the manchurian candidate, in order to fulfill the MSM Gepeto's war on Dr. Paul.

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 14:16 | 2694757 swiss chick
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I think we were all better off about 15 years ago,no?

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 15:06 | 2694941 johnQpublic
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not far enuf back

i'm thinkin mid fifties was when we were at the zenith

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 17:43 | 2695478 Seer
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The zenith that you're talking about was a zenith in ignorance.  We were quite innocent back then.  Unbeknownst to most folks back then they were laying the tracks for today (Eisenhower and others warned us!).

The REAL zenith was when the Declaration of Independence was handed to the British.  When our virginity was then lost we then pursued the path to whoredom.

"La Revolucion is like a great love affair. In the beginning, she is a goddess. A holy cause. But... every love affair has a terrible enemy: time. We see her as she is. La Revolucion is not a goddess but a whore. She was never pure, never saintly, never perfect."

- Jack Palance, as 'Jesus Raza', in, 'The Professionals' (1966)

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 18:08 | 2695554 Overfed
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I'd settle for mid '80s

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 14:18 | 2694767 caimen garou
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Fri, 08/10/2012 - 14:19 | 2694768 Uncle Keith
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The U.S. typical Crisis Mentality voter is not interested - nor, can they comprehend - that it is 31 years of FAILED Supply Side Economic Public Policy that resulted in Wealth Consolidation and a Stagnant Economy.


The question is not whether or not Old Barry beats Mitten's - it is how badly the GOP gets the crap beaten out of them in the Mid-Terms in '14. 

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 14:28 | 2694805 NidStyles
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Where in the hell are you idiots coming from?


What is this Tyler? This is like a weird influx of mutant morons that keep showing up.

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 15:23 | 2694991 slewie the pi-rat
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he's a mutant b/c he thinks prez0 will get re-elected and look out republicans in 2014?

or b/c he disses prez"iranContra"rayGun?

that a tremendous heritage of blackOps criminality operating under spook cover, but i'll certainly admit that those briefcases full of china white and the handcuffs were a bit awkward...

flyAirAmerica, BiCheZ!  L0L!!!

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 15:56 | 2695125 NidStyles
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Nah, he's an idiot because he actually believes the shit he's saying. Something about voting and parties making a difference in the outcome. 

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 14:29 | 2694809 Beam Me Up Scotty
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We have a stagnant economy because the government HAS SPENT TOO DAMN MUCH MONEY IN THE LAST 31 YEARS.  PERIOD!!

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 18:11 | 2695562 Overfed
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I"m thinkin' more like the last 48 years.

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 17:46 | 2695488 Seer
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Look, a great opportunity to communicate with an actual Democrat!  I'd like to take advantage of this opportunity, so, if you don't mind, here's a question for you:

Do you (Democrats) support the policy of continual growth?

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 14:19 | 2694769 pd45
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Yes, I'm wiser than I was 4 years ago. I'm also more suspicious, paranoid, and depressed. I want to go back to the warm and cozy Matrix.

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 15:09 | 2694946 johnQpublic
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then you need the blue pill

but its viagra

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 16:49 | 2695307 JimBowie1958
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Blue pill is always easier on the nerves...

Oh, wait, THAT blue pill, sorry.

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 14:20 | 2694770 Red Heeler
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And if you are better off, you didn't do that.

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 14:23 | 2694783 Rushisright
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Why don't you people get off your asses and vote? You lazy scum can sit here and jack off to a computer that is going to get you know where. It doesn't just start with 1600 Penssylvania Avenue....um it starts with throwing out the 535 in Congress. That's who has sold us out and that is who needs hanged from every tree branch we can find! Until you jackwads quit complaining and realizing the power you do have...your right your powerless. Keep watching your American Idols...keep sleeping...they got you by the balls morons!


Fri, 08/10/2012 - 14:26 | 2694795 NidStyles
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I think you got lost on your way to Sodahead, or whatever trendy micro-cosm of an internet distraction you meant to browse. 


BTW, voting does work. You can not hope to fix a system by using the very same broken system. 

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 17:49 | 2695497 Seer
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"You never change anything by fighting the existing. To change something, build a new model and make the existing obsolete."

- Buckminster Fuller

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 14:27 | 2694804 Auric Goldfinger
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Bless your heart.

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 14:39 | 2694849 caimen garou
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what makes you think my lazy ass does'nt vote?

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 14:46 | 2694869 pd45
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I do vote. But my vote gets neutralized by a single welfare recipient.  When a third of a voters are either ignorant or are of dependent class (via direct payment or employment), we've crossed the event horizon into the black hole.

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 16:16 | 2695191 Harbanger
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To help secure that vote and further our destruction, Obama recently eliminated all work requirements to receive welfare.  Completely undermining Clinton welfare reform.

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 20:40 | 2695860 Seer
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If you vote then you're part of the problem (of proliferating the System).

Do you really think that regular people actually elect top officials?

Yeah, keep pulling that lever you monkey...

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 14:45 | 2694870 Abiotic Oil
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Voting... LMAO...  Well at least someone is trying to end the corruption so voting would actually matter again.

Recent Twitter feed from Lawyers for Ron Paul.. backing the GOP and the Dem cockroaches into a corner, shining a light on 'em and busting out the jump boots for some squishing.

"USA_Patriot_Press ‏@USA_Free_Press

Palin takes 450 delegates from Romney. Santorum takes 350. Dr Paul can take 300 Romney votes. Newt can take 250 to push Romney below 1144

8h USA_Patriot_Press ‏@USA_Free_Press
@CorinaKernan The defining issue will be Romney's support for Internment Camps. Delegates will not change their vote over election fraud

8h USA_Patriot_Press ‏@USA_Free_Press
When Romney fails on the 1st ballot there will be a mass exodus of Romney delegates.- Enter Dr Paul

8h USA_Patriot_Press ‏@USA_Free_Press
This is our strategy. This is our path to victory. Today it is more plausible than ever. The miracle continues

8h USA_Patriot_Press ‏@USA_Free_Press
Be prepared to send messages to Santorum, Palin, Jeb Bush & Gingrich to get in the race to strip votes from Romney & drive Romney below 1144

8h USA_Patriot_Press ‏@USA_Free_Press
Be poised for victory and then make a quick transition to convince Romney delegates to vote their conscience, to vote the Constitution

8h USA_Patriot_Press ‏@USA_Free_Press
With the filing of our Amended Complaint the Judge will have figured out we did it on purpose and that our strategy worked

8h USA_Patriot_Press ‏@USA_Free_Press
@CorinaKernan - It means the score will be Romney has zero bound delegates if the Judge rules in our favor and future generations live free

8h USA_Patriot_Press ‏@USA_Free_Press
It is now check with the Judge agreeing our vision of the Voting Rights Act does apply to the RNC Convention. Our plan is working.

8h USA_Patriot_Press ‏@USA_Free_Press
We called our strategy 3 dimensional chess meaning the case would proceed with 3 complaints each designed to position RNC into checkmate.

8h USA_Patriot_Press ‏@USA_Free_Press
This was our strategy all the while knowing we would be filing an Amended Complaint upon successful completion. We prepared it 2 months ago

8h USA_Patriot_Press ‏@USA_Free_Press
We successfully positioned the RNC to admit it has no regard for US Law and that it claims it can even violate it's own Rules on the record.

9h USA_Patriot_Press ‏@USA_Free_Press
The Judge has all the evidence of election fraud. He will not forget it when he pens his Ruling

9h USA_Patriot_Press ‏@USA_Free_Press
The Judge is a former Marine. I believe he will not forsake our Constitution

9h USA_Patriot_Press ‏@USA_Free_Press
The fate of our nation now rests in the hands of a Judge. He has the canvas of his chosing to paint the historical decision of liberty

10h USA_Patriot_Press ‏@USA_Free_Press
@blondenfun1 It never got thrown out. That is a myth. We are winning"

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 15:35 | 2695039 John_Coltrane
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Wait, I like this congress.  They do nothing.  No new legislation, a complete stalemate-just as the founding fathers wanted..  I want a powerless, small, ineffectual government whose sole role is national defense.  I can take care of myself.  I would like a repeal of Obamacare and a Paul Ryan/Rand Paul budget which defunds the TSA and the Dept. of Education however, so I've got to go with Romney.

Meanwhile, everyone needs to contract their senators and push Ron Paul's audit the FED bill through the senate.  That's the single most important thing you can do politically.

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 15:53 | 2695112 Van Halen
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Paul had a great idea a while back which I wish he had really run with - it was to make the government cut 1% - just 1% from every government budget and program and agency. If Romney wanted to score points, he could throw that out there and watch the current government spin themselves into pretzels trying to shoot down that idea.

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 16:38 | 2695271 Harbanger
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 "If Romney wanted to score points, he could throw that out there and watch the current government spin themselves into pretzels trying to shoot down that idea."

The msm does all the spinning Obama needs.  They would dig up archives of starving women and children and shoot down the idea immediately. 

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 18:16 | 2695575 Overfed
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That would be great if we could only get rid of all of the cabinet level dictatorships and pass a  Constitutional amendment rescinding all past and outlawing all future Executive Orders.

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 15:37 | 2695050 TraderTimm
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The biggest lie in america is that a non-funded vote matters. By "non-funded" I mean not backed by massive lobbying organizations and corporate contributions.

Money controls our political system, not votes. It doesn't matter who is in the presidential hotseat, what matters is which cause has been given the most money to influence the legislature and the eventual desired outcome.

Even if you took everyone out of their incumbent seat - it wouldn't matter - the real policy guidance comes from those who have the most to spend.

Please, prove me wrong - but that is where we are right now. The fact people even think the election matters is a testament to how intellectually lazy everyone is.

Frankly, the system needs a reboot and reformulation.



Fri, 08/10/2012 - 15:55 | 2695128 Harbanger
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Rushisright is a new liberal troll, or most likely an old one with a new account.  This is his 1st comment on ZH.

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 20:44 | 2695869 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Rushisright said:

Why don't you people get off your asses and vote?

Hahahahaha! Fuck voting. I have more important things to do, like clipping my toenails or cleaning the cat box.

You lazy scum can sit here and jack off to a computer that is going to get you know where.

No, sorry, I don't know where. Where exactly is the computer 'going to get'?

Until you jackwads quit complaining and realizing the power you do have...your right your powerless.

My right? My powerless? I don't get it.

Incidentally, you sound like you're probably more into April Wine than Rush.

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 14:24 | 2694785 SmittyinLA
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You only get to vote to allow the Socialists to count the votes once.

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 14:25 | 2694788 NidStyles
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I'm better off, yes. It has nothing to do with the "Chump in Chief" though. It has a lot to do with not being on the side of a shithole mountain in Afghanistan getting fucking shot at every night though. 

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 14:33 | 2694826 Disenchanted
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It's good that you were there protecting our freedom to be ass-raped by banksters, the MIC, and other scoundrels hiding behind the last refuge.

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 14:42 | 2694846 NidStyles
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Who are you kidding? I wasn't there for your sake. I was there because they were paying me massive amounts of paper fiat that I was converting into Physical. I wasn't in the Military then chief. 


My concern and compassion for you as an Individual ends at my doorstep. Once you leave my house, you are on your own. Learn to stand for yourself, and keep your guilt laden emotives to yourself. Reality doesn't care how you feel, and it will chew you up and shit you out like a shiny polished turd. My efforts at being polite end where your right to judge me try to exist. 

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 14:42 | 2694860 Disenchanted
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Nobody is/was there(Afghanistan or Iraq) for the sake of the common man, whether they're military or not.


I hope the wealth chasing was worth getting shot at.

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 14:47 | 2694874 NidStyles
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Wasn't wealth chasing, but yes, it was worth it. 

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 16:55 | 2695334 JimBowie1958
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All the same, thank you for serving regardless why you did it.

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 21:06 | 2695916 kekekekekekeke
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I like the cut of your jib

Sat, 08/11/2012 - 05:30 | 2696609 Disenchanted
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Sorry NidStyles, but I previously failed to see this part of your reply:


My concern and compassion for you as an Individual ends at my doorstep. Once you leave my house, you are on your own. Learn to stand for yourself, and keep your guilt laden emotives to yourself. Reality doesn't care how you feel, and it will chew you up and shit you out like a shiny polished turd. My efforts at being polite end where your right to judge me try to exist.


I think you've seriously misread where I'm coming from...


So if you weren't in the military and you weren't chasing wealth, can you share what noble motive led you to be on the side of an Afghan mountain getting shot at?

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 15:29 | 2695018 Meesohaawnee
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how did ya feel about putting your life on the line for criminals? serious. damn i feel bad for WWII vets. everyday i think about what they must be thinking.

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 16:52 | 2695325 Harbanger
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I just used my Ouija board to ask a WWII Vet what he's thinking now, and he sent me this video:



Fri, 08/10/2012 - 22:14 | 2696100 Seer
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WWII vets have lots of parades, monuments, books and other effects praising their efforts for the empire.  They also have been able to have various funds available, funds that today's soldiers will never see (being that the country is totally broke).

Also, sometimes one does not fully understand the greater world when one is younger.  Hindsight being what it is...  I have no sympathies, however, for those who never bother to expand their awareness and continue to assist in the perpetuation of the Big Lie.

Fri, 08/10/2012 - 14:25 | 2694791 loveyajimbo
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FORWARD, Comrades!!!  Just a few more steps to total collapse, we can do it, I know we can!!!  Hooray for Bung-hole Barry!!

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