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Many Shot In Front Of Empire State Building - Live Chopper Webcam
Update: from NYPD scanner:
U/D Manhattan: 5 Ave & West 34 St/Empire State Bldg Total of 7 people shot Perp DOA 1 in serious condition All others in stable condition.
Also, according to ABC, the shooting was apparently a result of a "workplace dispute":
A workplace dispute that erupted in gunfire left as many as ten people have been injured, at least four of them shot, near the Empire State building in Midtown.
A fire department spokesman says it received a call about the shooting just after at 9 a.m. Friday and that emergency units were on the scene at Fifth Avenue and West 34th Street within minutes.
Breaking news that the 5th Avenue and 34th street area in New York has been closed after 5 people were shot outside of the Empire state victim, including the gunman. According to police scanner reports, the perpetrator has been shot by NYPD ans is is DOA on scene, with EMS assistance requested.
From Reuters:
Two people have been killed and at least eight others were wounded in a shooting outside of the Empire State Building in New York City on Friday, according to a New York police source.
One of the dead was the shooter, the source said, adding that there was no apparent link to terrorism.
From NBC New York:
Police say at least two people were shot outside the Empire State Building Friday morning.
Authorities said emergency personnel received a call about the shooting at Fifth Avenue and 34th Street just after 9 a.m.
The circumstances of the shooting weren't immediately clear. The conditions of the people shot also weren't known.
At least one person was seen being taken away in a stretcher.
And from Fox NY:
There are reports of multiple people shot outside the Empire State Building. FOX 5 News has learned that at least three people have been shot. The scene is chaotic as people make their way to work in the heavily trafficked area. One person is in police custody. FOX 5 News and SkyFoxHD are headed to the scene. MyFoxNY.com is updating this story.
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And theres still plenty of shooting in those places anyway.
Why go to Japan? Mexico has very strict gun laws (just one round of ammunition has put people in prison). Doesn't seem to stop the violence.
Bobnoxy....um, hi stupid....yea Aurora area where the theater is has a total ban 'gun free zone'. Herpaderp.
Yeah, but they don't ENFORCE it, they don't pat down EVERYONE coming and going now do they? So THERE! </sarc>
This is the result of the constant fear-mongering fed to us everyday by the media.
"I'm scared" so disarm everyone, because the police will keep me safe. <---nice one
Well the government showed me a report and hell its got numbers on it to prove its real.
Are you drunk already?
law abiding
its reported the guy just lost his job: motive - the 99% arent going to take it anymore!
"If conceal carry was instated..."
How about if the Constitution was actually instated? According to the supreme law of the land, I don't need a permit to conceal and carry.
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Thats right. Boomberg did it, and he had help!
Concealed carry for the masses in NYC... you've obviously never been here or are incredibly fuckin' stupid ("law biting..." definitely stupid).
Most people here already live life with a "hair trigger" mentality. Concealed carry? It would be the wild west times a 1000.
And what happens when the first shot is fired? In a large crowd like NYC most of the armed crowd ready to "save the day" would have NO idea who fired first. What happens next when an armed crowd (all out for themselves) sees strangers wielding weapons all around them? I'll tell you retard... everyone would start shooting at everyone else.
You and everyone that agreed with you are fucking imbeciles that watch FAR too much television.
Ps. I'm pro gun for all you retards out there, so go fuck yourselves.
You're not "pro gun"; you're an elitist idiot.
"I'm pro gun, but the 'masses' don't need to be carrying. They're too stupid and twitchy." Go eat a bag of dicks.
Your obviously someone whos lived their entire pathetic life no more than 2 blocks from the elementary school you didn't graduate from.
Look bumpkin, heres some sound advice... try and get out for once in your sheltered menial existance and experience the real world... you might (doubtfully) learn something.
I never would have thought it, but maybe I am elitist? Because I definitely see you as a "worthless eater."
Now go back to kissing your sister, fuck-o.
Meh. You're, who's, they, here's, existence, elitist <> elite.
Come up with a decent argument because for someone who claims to be super smurt and way above "the masses" you certainly present yourself as a drooling moron with comments like this. Best of luck!
"I'm pro gun" Please state why. Thanks!
Seems that you might have some cognitive dissonance going on here, it's kind of like saying that you believe in being an atheist in the country but not in the city.
OK, here's one for you... I'm currently having a dilemma over how to fence goats. I really like them and have a need for them. BUT, fencing them is a nightmare: there's a joke(?) that one needs a fence that's capable of containing water. Some people say that you CAN contain them using electric fencing (all but bucks that is, which I would not want). Apparently, many people have success with training their goats to the fence (I'm aware that this works for cattle and pigs). What's the training involve? Getting them to ZAP themselves on the fence. The PAIN registers and most will then associate the fence with that pain: some goats, however, learn that they can time themselves to the pulses (fuckers are escape artists!). My point? There will always be an initial shock, after which things settle down/stabilize. Yeah, there MIGHT be shootouts, but once the quick-draws are ZAPPED then most will realize that it's not a good idea to try it.
Anti-gun folks tend to point at environments with seemingly stable govts. I suggest that people always assess risk, and that in this case it would be: what risk is there IF the govt goes unstable? We've seen what can happen in such a case, one need only talk to a survivor of Nazi rule: those who resisted had a higher rate of survival than those who did not; I'm thinking that the resistors had a more ready access to lethal weapons, and the thought of using them, than those who didn't resist.
But... cities, BIG cities ARE fucked. Remember: BIG = FAIL! There's going to be a LOT of deaths coming, and there's little that we can do about it (other than set the mindset for how we'll go forward after we pick ourselves back up). I suspect that most will come via BIG policies (refer, again, to Nazi Germany) rather than from individuals.
Goats rock!
You're projecting? Right?
How does something like this happen with some of the strictest gun control laws in the nation? /SARC
It happens because honest, law abiding disarmed citizens can't shoot back.
Law abiding citizens can get crazy too.
Wild West!
There are no such restrictions in Colorado, home to more mass shootings in recent years than in NYC. And your rationale for that is?...
Aurora, Colorado has strict gun control laws.
You fucking moron.
Colorada needs a preemption law.
Green arrow for the sarc :-)
Tell that to the families of the victims of those mass shootings. I'm sure they'll find it very comforting, douchebag.
Tell me, did your lobotomy hurt as much as your castration?
I will say to them
"Sorry it was a no gun zone, maybe if your deceased was armed they might have had a chance"
could you identify the particular location of the shootings and not the state? EACH LOCATION HAS ITS OWN CARRY LAWS, e.g. the aurora theater, columbine school, etc. Essentially, it is illegal to carry firearms in particular places... e.g. inside school buildings. It is also illegal to carry in private places that have followed the law regarding notice to persons who carry concealed... it isn't merely a "it's a private establishment and I can kick out whoever I want if I see them packing" issue... it's expressly against the law also...
failure to abide by the law would likely result in confiscation of your right to carry concealed... among other penalties...
Guess you don't recall a major shooting a few years back in Arizona, huh?
Loughner was a CIA patsy.
http://thegovernmentrag.wordpress.com/2012/08/08/jared-lee-loughner-take...
Don't fall for that bullshit. He's actually a space-alien. That was just a cover story to prevent sheeple like you from ever seeing the TRUTH.
Chicago recorded 19 shootings in a few hours last night (and it's not even the weekend yet). This happened only blocks from the community organizer-in-chief's house. With 90+ temperatures on the way we could easily reach 75-80 shootings before Sunday.
#winning!!
And why is that not in the spotlight? Because those shootings were not staged.
Black on black crime is not recognized in Chicago. It's too embarrassing for those in control.
"#winning!!"
Reminded me of these lines from the movie Brazil:
T.V. Interviewer: How do you account for the fact that the bombing campaign has been going on for thirteen years?
Mr. Helpmann: Beginners' luck.
Looks like it was the fucking cops that shot most of the people. Sadly fucking hilarious..........
I'm pretty sure they also passed laws against killing people.
...and laws against insider trading, co-mingling accounts.. etc. where the fuck is John Corzine?
See what the fuck happens when you don't actually enforce the fucking law?
LawsofPhysics
Corzine was the shooter?
Maybe Corzine was the one shot?
It's better to let it happen and then ban it for the muppets. [/sarc]
They passed laws against DIRECT killing of people. However, if you are a large agribusiness or pharmaceutical or tobacco company- you can kill indiscriminitely through the use of drugs, chemical food additives or paid science that requires proof to eliminate your product, but no proof it doesn't harm.
We kill thousands everyday through corporate actions, through military- industrial profit seeking, through state violence, but that is fine and dandy. Those deaths cannot be laid at someone's front door or they feed patriotism's lies.
Can we just start paying attention to the gross crimes of wall street, government and corporations? For such a minority of economic and political capital, we pay a huge cost to support these criminal enterprises.
"Can we just start paying attention to" oh!, wait!, LOOK, LOOK!, a distraction! < :-) >
99.99% of the time, firearms are simply defensive protection.
Ask any cop. Most have never needed to fire their weapon while on duty.
But cops are smarter, more capable and have superior judgement than you or I.
That's why they get to carry firearms and we don't.
Upvote this if you agree with his first sentence, but not the rest.
I don't have a problem with the second sentence either...
however, the third sentence is... laughably false...
and the fourth sentence is... patently false given anyone can open carry like police... it's concealed carry that is restricted.
Thanks MM, I must need more coffee...
I can't be sure but that came across as sarcasm to me.
Ladies and gentlemen. Sarcasm.
Does anyone on ZH believe that cops are smarter, etc. ?
If so, how many cops have you met? Or are you just getting your information from TV.
"That's why they get to carry firearms and we don't."
No, it's because they work directly for TPTB. There are two sets of laws, and how the guns are used depends on what set is being applied/enforced.
UPDATE: Check out in the beginning of the video-there's a blond woman standing there with bodies and blood all around and she's non-chalantly fiddling with her igadget.
"A disgruntled worker stalked a colleague down a Midtown street, shot him dead and then turned his weapon on random pedestrians outside the Empire State Building — killing at least one innocent bystander and shooting up to seven others before he was cut down by a cop on foot patrol, sources told The Post."
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/shot_at_empire_state_building_Ycd08ZMPwDQf7r8qSKX3yO
This Guardian article quotes witness/shooting victim - saying the NYC's Finest shot the innocent bystanders.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/aug/24/empire-state-building-shooti...
Meanwhile in Mexico -
US embassy staff shot ... by Mexican policehttp://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/aug/24/us-embassy-staff-shot-mexica...
Not sure what the deal is.....we banned 32oz sugar water.
Apparently that wasn't enough to calm the masses.
It just might have incited them. Nothing else would.
...one of the thousands losing their jobs in the sugar water industry due to policey?
I never imagined that sugar water would become a government controlled substance.
GetZeeGold
You banned Transfats first too, and smoking in various locations like BARS.
Dude.....nip it. If you want some Oreos......meet me out back by the dumpster.
GetZeeGold
Weed and Oreos, the breakfast of kings.
Thanks for the New York centric reporting, ZH. In other news, over 300 million people in the US get on with the rest of their lives.
People are shot every day and mostly in "gun free" zones like NY, schools, movie theaters, political rallies. I'm sure there is a pattern there.
The mayor will attempt to divert the attention to gun loopholes at gun shows, but Mexican Drug Cartels only need our own DOJ to get weapons. Or the N. Koreans. Or Iran. Or Venezuela. Or anybody else that disagrees with anything we're about.
Hype Alert
"I'm sure there is a pattern there."
There is always some idiot who will fuck up a party.
"Or Iran. Or Venezuela. Or anybody else that disagrees with anything we're about."
Or, how about anyone with MONEY? Last I'd heard (perhaps it's changed? </sarc>) Israel wasn't on this list of those who "disagree with anything we're about."
Corzine?
My first thought too. Then I remembered it was Friday in August and Corzy wouldn't be caught dead outside the Hamptons
Might be the only way...
I didn't know that.
You couldn't pull tail in a dog park. Whereever your from is an unheard of dickless town that no one gives a fck about. Sorry your daughter moved here and I banged her, like all the rest of your kids move away to NYC because you cannot create anything in your god foresaken shit towns worth sticking around for. Trade gold bits pussies, what's stopping you? Tool
What an inspiration to move back to the city! Thanks! </sarc>
BTW - When you're starving (because cities, by their very nature, aren't sustainable [they HAVE to import, food, young people etc.]) don't bother coming to me for food.
Its OK, most of the shooting vitims were police return fire "collateral damage" which of course is always OK.
Who cares if civilians get whacked if the state gets the bad guy.
Have you hugged a drone today?
Yeah, it's govt POLICY to perform extrajudicial killings, killings in which the deaths of innocent civilians are, to paraphrase Madeline Albright, "worth it." Yet, the little people cannot be allowed to protect themselves...
To recap, a year ago, the shooter was fired by the victim. Most likely the shooter was still unemployed and still pissed off. He knows he can't get into the Empire State Building with a gun, so he stalks the former boss at a building exit.
Maybe he got lucky today, maybe it took a few days to catch up with the former boss in such a crowd. But however long it took, he managed to shoot the ex-boss in the head today.
At this point he has to get away on foot, since he's on the sidewalk. The sound of the shot(s) alerts both the crowd and the ever present NYPD. The police nearby see the guy fleeing and fire off 14 rounds at a man on one of the most crowded sidewalks in NYC. They kill the shooter and wound 6 other people.
And the word "heroic" is already being used to describe the police actions.
What's heroic is that the police stopped their gunplay after hitting only 6 people other than the shooter.
Sort of like Washington D.C. Mayor Marion Barry, who bragged that D.C. crime rates were coming down, "except for the homicides".
Well, it was the murder capitol, but what the heck.
Who is John Galt?
Don't know....but apparently someone doesn't like him.
Wait, people still have guns in NYC? I though Nanny Bloomberg got rid of them all.
Prayers for the victims, of course.
He got rid of the big soft drinks, considerable more threatening, don't cha know.
I haven't noticed any reduction in the size and number of fat people in New York.
Well, stay tuned, the War on Poverty (QE and the like) will SAVE everyone from becoming skinny... oh, wait! starvation (due to increasing food prices) is on the way!
They'll probably have to raise the fines some more, and reduce the acceptable size of those drinks. I haven't seen if the toxicology results have come out yet, but it's a pretty safe bet he was strung out on high fructose corn syrup.
Bloomberg suffers from "little man complex" while having an additional rare pathology known as "turtle head", this condition is characterized when one's dingus shrinks inside itself! When he got passed puberty and realized that he was going to be a little shit and his dingus had no hope of coming out of it's shell, he created a story inside his little heads, with ambitions of raining down tyranny upon the heads of everyone that was taller than 5'2" and had a dingus longer than 1".
Oh, and by the way Mr. Bloomberg you can take your forced soda tax and gun control Utopian fantasy ideas and stick them up your ass bitch!
Can he stick Rudy('America's Mayor') up his ass while he's at it?
two birds, one stone...
edit:
Once again regular folks take the lead(as in bullets).
Funny how you never see headlines like:
Mass Shooting at 200 West Street in NYC: Muppet Arrested and Charged
Dude, Rudy is gone.....news flash......so is George Bush.
Come back to 2012 and join us!
Too bad they didn't take Obamney and Bloomberg with them...
Yeah right ass wipe, blame Rudy and I bet you believe it's Bush's fault right? While these two idiots (Bloomberg/Obama) subjugate your liberty and freedoms you can willingly praise, bow down and lick their stinkn' toes, at that point, maybe, you'll hear that pop, having a moment of clarity, realizing that your head has come out of your ass recognizing what you've done to yourself.
I don't like any of the assholes including Obama...dumbass.
With me, your R vs. D bullshit is a fail.
Where the fuck were you types when the Patriot Act/Dept. of Homeland Security/TSA bullshit was sailing thru Congress and Bush II and after which 'subjugating my liberties.' I didn't see a whole lot of the concern then that I see now. But imo that was equally as bad as what's happening now. And dickhead Obama after implying otherwise approved of the continuation of all the above.
I'm not sayn' Repubs are the perfect freedom and liberty fighters, however when it gets to a level where both Bloomberg and Obama have the imaginary idea that their, so called, sophisticated and elite minds are God's gift to humanity while destroying one's ability to make a living or forcing the populace to minimize their sugar drink volume, then one knows all bets are off and things gotta change.
By the way, witnesses say the gunman was holding a 32oz Big Gulp while on his rampage...hm....
Some of us here are still trying to live the 'american dream'. We tolerate the intolerable at times and put up with administration, hi costs of living and general stupidity of the individual. We raise families, work an HONEST days work and do good for the general society that we choose to live in. Whether someone agrees to it or not, we truly don't give two fucks and we've earned that right.
But what really yanks at New Yorkers are the assholes from the bleacher section spewing their hatred towards NYC, due to either a loser mentality (they couldn't do it or have the balls to leave Flyoverlandia, USA), core hatred or jealousy.
There are a few of you here on ZH
Oh we're terribly sorry we've been a burr under your blanket.
We serfs here in Flyoverlandia hereby acknowledge that you Nu Yawkers are the center of the universe and beg your forgiveness.
Indeed.
The classic arrogance and haughty insularity of the typical New Yorker comes through in this asshole's post in spades. If this guy wanted to elicit any sympathy, he only managed to dig his "New York Citiers = Pricks" hole that much deeper.
I've got news for you, asshole Oaf --- your congested, completely removed-from-nature concrete jungle represents nothing to me but my idea of Hell on earth, and there is NO incentive that ANYONE could possibly provide that could entice me to live in the crowded, impersonal, socially atomized rat-infested anthill of (in)humanity that you call home, just as you would probably be loathe to live in the poorer sections of Hong Kong or Mumbai --- or in your much-despised and flippantly dismissed "Flyoverlandia". It has NOTHING to do with jealousy, but you may be correct that I "could not cut it" in NYC --- because I would be so miserable my existence there would surely end in suicide.
Nice way to shoot yourself in the foot, fool. Oh wait, that's right --- your ragingly statist city government will not let you even own a gun!
God, I hate New Yorkers (referring to the city, of course, not the state).
Oh hush you sound like you're from Boston.
Fck em. Just keep living the dream and let the haters hate.
If only New York and Wall street would stop stealing from the rest of the fucking country. People might be a tad more sympathetic don't cha think?
Where is John Corzine asshole? You clearly benefit from the theft otherwise new yorkers might actually do something about it.
You don't know what I do. I could [insert random crap you admire here]. On the other hand, I know your first reaction upon hearing your fellow Americans die was to call my city, the biggest city in America, a "fascist piece of shit city", so I'm guessing you live in some shit hole no one else wants to.
John Corzine should be in jail for life. Why don't you do something about it? Need directions to Jersey?
Tool.
Cities are UNSUSTAINABLE, they HAVE to import from outside there boundaries. That means you're the bitch.
I'll stay away from you and your dens of banking thieves in NYC if you stay away from my farm. Deal? (I really like a Win Win situation!)
Cities are far more energy efficient on a per-capita basis than rural and suburban areas. They can't produce all their own food, but then again, very few places can.
The S&P broke 1400! THIS CANNOT STAND!!!!!
Old Bloomberg will be screaming now. We must outlaw guns!
Maybe we should just outlaw....umm.....outlaws?
How about if we outlaw Bloomberg? The little feudal lord.
Maybe someone should tell him he's not actually the President.
We're talking Lord God King Bufu.
[FZ - Valley Girl]
Bloomberg's position on guns is the right one especially for NYC - i wouldnt live anywhere else for a lot of reasons - the restrictions on guns in NYC being just one - people who are insecure need validation and an extension of their limited manhood - i have lived in nyc and elsewhere for 60 + years during difficult periods in NYC history and never needed a gun for protection - either you have street smarts to avoid trouble or you dont - there are people who get mugged repeatedly for a reason
gun owners need bigger dicks and they would be fine without the firearms!
Yep, and all those dumb broads who get raped should've just had some more street smarts. Don't dress so sexy either. Dolts.
When the SHTF you are going to get eaten alive.
And I bet he tastes just like chicken.
You never need the gun, until you need the gun.
I drop turds bigger than Bloomie and more attractive too I might add. Fuck Bloomberg in the ass with a steak knife
Murder has been illegal for thousands of years in most societies, yet it still happens. How anyone advocating banning a defensive weapon that could stop it just proves an ulterior motive. Tyrant to be more precise.
...and disgruntled, fired workers.
Wow it looks like at least three people support the little fascist's anti gun campaign.
You commenters upset about NYC gun laws really just have to ask one question: would there be more gun murders in NYC if the gun laws were less restrictive? I don't know the answer to that question and you probably don't either.
Of course, it's easy to buy a gun in a less restrictive environment and drive to another state. And incidents like this will happen from time to time.
Finally, the Second Amendment as interpreted by the SCOTUS doesn't prevent a government unit from regulating the registration process. I know many of you think a gun should be easier to acquire than a driver's license.
Well....I was shooting pheasants (with a gun) in flyover country long before I was licensed to drive a car.....so you might have something there.
GZG,
Very amusing, man. Did you use a handgun to shoot pheasants?
Yes....but I didn't use hollowpoints.....I used shot rounds.
Always use the proper tools for the job.
Who's upset? Apparently New York's gun laws are working fine, what with all the not-murdering-with-guns going on, right? Look at Aurora, Colorado. City banned concealed carry, theater didn't allow weapons. All these gun control laws are flat-out brilliant.
Old Blomberg will be screaming now. We must outlaw guns!
I love it when billionaires with a cadre of very well paid armed thugs, to protect them, always think they know what's best for we PEONS.
Look at Chicago, its as a bad as the 30's, all the blue sates with strict gun control laws are the worst in crime stats with weapons.
Freakin Marxists.
IF you live there, you are a walking target.
Check out the sentence Hans Gruber got in Norway for murdering a camp full of unarmed kids, and adults.................10-21 yrs, be out in 18 mos.
I read that about Hans and about fell out of my chair. I'm sure his sentence would have been stiffer if he hadn't helped advance their gun control agenda.
"all the blue sates with strict gun control laws are the worst in crime stats with weapons."
Yeah, about that, wouldn't they also have the greatest populations?
That would tend to skew your claim.
But hey, to reactionaries it does seem reasonable.
Yeah, about that, wouldn't they also have the greatest populations?
That would tend to skew your claim.
But hey, to reactionaries it does seem reasonable.
Yeah, and more chances to be a victim, Gulley, check out DC,Chi Town, etc, etc...................v.s. big cities like Dallas, and Houston, etc.
The crime stats are always skewed anyway, I don't think deaths from gang fights, and drug dealers, should even be counted.
They are a world unto their own.Texas has a few million folks,and its a lot more polite state than most.
You cannot afford to run around and try to be top stud, you get your ass kicked or shot if you get dangerous.
An armed society is a polite society. When you carry, you must be cooler headed than if you were not
Actions have life changing consequences. Haven't has as much as a traffic ticket in 40+yrs, so reactionary in what sense?.
You leave me alone, I leave you alone............life the way it should be. Be at peace with all men as far as it depends on you.
Nothing you say is ever true, though.
Tennessee and Louisiana are the states with the greatest incidences of gun-crime. They're neither "blue" nor "gun control" states.
Because the maximum sentence for ANY crime in Norway is 21 years, and everyone may apply for parole after 10, it's boilerplate. There are also additional laws that allow the authorities to extend the sentence past 21 years if the offender is determined to be a danger to society.
Nice straw man, wasnt this thread about NYC laws?
Actually, he was calling for that BEFORE this incident, eerily JUST BEFORE:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-24/bloomberg-called-for-gun-restri...
They've learned from the BIG BOYS (masters of the WMD scare and originators of "terrorism" stuff).
Epic anti-Bloomberg rant from Fran Lebowitz: http://youtu.be/Nu1suQP1vC4
must watch -- Fran drops truth bombs....loved how she called him out on 9.1.1.
Must be the street vendors again fighting over locations....
I wish this shooting wako was more selective who he shot in NYC. He should have gone a few blocks South, then he'd be a hero in many eyes.
Exactly, why waste bullets on innocent people.
Far as I can tell from the bullshit news, shooter wasted no bullets on anybody but his ex-boss. Everybody else fell from the NYPD's 'friendly fire'.
More details will emerge as the writers make them up.
"more selective" ? who do you have in mind?
south from that east side location is predominant white neighborhoods extending down to alphabet city no blacks little spanish
whats your target?
manhattan looks like the zombie apocolypse lately. some crazy f'n people wandering around.
Very true. The last time I took the train into the city and then the subway from Penn Station up to Columbus Circle it was one bizarre experience after another including high school aged-looking cops hanging around in little gangs with M-16s and attack dogs!
manhattan looks like the zombie apocolypse lately. some crazy f'n people wandering around.
Compared to D.C., and Chi Town, it's a negative on the scale.
TIMES ARE JUST THAT GREAT!! LET ME TELL YOU!!!
WE ARE ALL FEELING GOOOOOOD!!!
THANKS WASHINGTON.......THANKS!
It's George's fault!!! Not Bush......Washington.
We should have just stayed in Europe.
GetZeeGold
"We should have just stayed in Europe."
What you mean "we" white man?
Who are you calling white cracker?
This race card stuff makes no sense given the context of this-- Midtown Manhattan. Even chance that perp and victims were of ANY given race, hell, even Mohawk native New Yorkers live and visit there.
At least in Boston, Teevee news has coverage of black on black (or Latin on Latin) shootings in black or Latin neighborhoods EVERY NIGHT.
One day they'll build the bridge across the Bering Strait and you too can visit the old country.
king kong was about to drop a terd so someone figured he'd save the people around him the stigma and anxiety of this deprecating experience.
After all the shootings in Chicago yesterday with ZERO dead they seem to have a much better aim in NYC.
What a bunch of Jokers.
This is not even a standard afternoon tally for Chicago.
Perspective my friends. Perspective.
Aug 23 2012, 19 people shot in overnight shootings across Chicago
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-shootings-chicago-...
For a little perspective, there will be an uptick in murders in my locale coming soon.
It happens every year at this time.....and right after the uptick in murders in Chicago.
The drug runners are cleaning house right now. If you haven't made your payments, can't account for your product, etc, they are going to eliminate you.
Once they finish at home, they pay visits to their "outreach" markets, of which the west end of my hometown is one.
13 Shot in Chicago 1/2 hour: rahm's is better in Chick-ee-filago
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-shootings-chicago-...
19 Shot in Chicago, 13 in Half Hour
No Contest. FORWARD. (lol)
Yes, perspective. What's wrong in the heart of america is much deeper than crooked-politics for banksters and a police state backed cronyism.
The entire fabric of the country is in tatters, the connective tissue is rotting away daily. Those that were once considered loyal clear-thinking forthright protectors and social anchors, are now seen and known to be mortal enemies, that you dare not trust for any reason.
19 shot in one day in one city equates to >6900 shot in one year, in one city.
War is the new 'peace'.
CHICAGO: AP -- Police say 19 people were shot in Chicago on Thursday night and early Friday.
So you know it is all relative.
Just insane.
CHICAGO: AP -- Police say 19 people were shot in Chicago on Thursday night and early Friday.
People?, where they gang members?, I would like to see the stats on who was shot,and over what.
Hey isn't that O's old buddies new haunt,and O'?...........nah, must be someone else.
Gang members? No, no. They were all National Honor Society Students, walking home from their Debate Society Wed. night practice meetings.
Well, at least the perp was dropped. Good job NYPD. NYC cops don't sleep on the job, unlike certain cities (cough D.C. cough Baltimore). We don't have to witness the spectacle of having him represented by Gloria Allred, defending him on the basis of having seen too much violence on Saturday morning cartoons.
UPDATE: Evidently, it was a quarrel among some co-workers.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/shot_at_empire_state_building_Ycd08ZMPwDQf7r8qSKX3yO
"Eeerily, just minutes before the mayhem, Mayor Bloomberg was warning about the dangers of “too many guns on the streets” on his weekly radio show.
“The argument guns don’t kill people, people kill people is one of the most disingenuous things you can say,” he said shortrly before 9 a.m. while discussing tougher guns laws being proposed in Albany.
“It does take a person to pull the trigger, but if they didn’t have the gun... We are the only developed country in the world with this problem.”
So Bloomberg is channeling his inner Walter Winchell? Tomorrow's news today, Big Mike on the mike, fighting for Truth, Justice, and the American Way? I like him on one level, a self-made man with a pretty good journalistic organization, but his crusade to make the rest of the country dance to his tune is NOT my speed.
On a bigger level-- there does seem to be a hell of a lot of paranoia in NY these days referred to on ZH and elsewhere. A buddy of mine down there used to love it, now he can't wait to get out. Too many people, too many buildings, is that whole Pelham 1-2-3/Taxi Driver vibe back??