Art Cashin's "Friends Of The Fermentation" Subcommittee Meets, Decides "To Hell With The Kids"
Some pure poetry from Art Cashin today which explains why future US generations may want to hold a referendum on being born...
From Art:
Partisan Politics Postpones Or Poisons Potential To Help Our Kids And Grandkids - Things turned a bit more philosophic at last night’s convocation of the Friends of Fermentation. It was not a plenary session but rather a more intimate group - about the size of a sub-committee. And, as often happens at watering holes, folks drifted in and out, going to a meeting or coming from one.
The core of the group was a trio of card-carrying members - a hedge fund veteran, an institutional floor broker and yours truly.
After running through the day’s events and action, the topic drifted, naturally, to the stunning leadership vacuum, both here and in Europe. Another bowl of peanuts was ordered and the conversation began to drift toward the possibility of the Fed doing a reprise of Operation Twist from the 1960’s. We began to focus on the Fed’s lengthening maturities when another shift took place.
For two decades, we have heard that “we” are saddling our children and grandchildren with a mountain of debt that would burden them potentially for their entire lives.
Study groups (e.g. Simpson/Bolles) tell us that there is no quick fix to these deficits and that they may take decades to rein in.
The group wondered aloud why the Treasury and the Congress were not being more opportunistic. Rates are at historical lows. Why aren’t we issuing 50 year or even 100 year treasuries? At these exceptional rates, that would allow us time enough and room enough to put the debt in order - a chance to structure the debt hodgepodge in an almost logical manner. It would give us a chance to hand off to our children something far less burdensome.
More ice cubes were marinated and the brain trust (ex me) concluded that the primary deterrent probably was that going to a 50 or 100 year might raise interest costs somewhat. That would yield, quickly, to political finger-pointing.
So, here it was again - politics. I don’t want to be accused of “busting the budget” by auctioning something that yields
several basis points more. “The kids? The hell with the kids! They ain’t voting in this election.”
Say, Sean, ya got any pretzels back there?
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If things progress they way they do the kids will never get a chance to cast a vote, or at best it will be a 'vote' like they had in the USSR
By the time the grandkids have to find work, the only work available (if they are fortunate) will be on the family homestead.
In 30 years this world will look more like 1841.
The kids? Hell with em....we got red nosed old worthless billionaires who need bailin' out!
The kids? We've been providing them with a relatively (to boomers and before) gild-edged upbringing and education. Granny? She planned on earning 3% on her retirement funds. She's getting 0%.
Enough with the generational warfare crap. You know who the real villains are.
Everyone is.
On The Triumph Of Evil
This god he speaks of, does he not want that outcome? Are we not, collectively, doing God's work by being this way?
Maybe Blankfein was right after all.
Out of choice in many cases---- for those that are able ( and plan wisely )
Crisismode says...In 30 years this world will look more like 1841.
Not quite....we have a fair bit of technology that can transistion down with us in the collapse. Through hoarding and reuse....I think in 50 years, with a little luck, some personal home power production (solar, wind, geothermal, water) and a LOT more local production and selling of EVERYTHING, with a fair amount of bartering thrown in the mix.....we can come up from a 1931-1941 living standard to 1951-1961.
But who knows....what with the complete and utter insanity that our world leaders operate in and the fact they will bring the world to flames to save their global utopian dream of debt based prosperity and global colonialism through rapacious capitalism and global wage arbitrage......1841 could very well be the standard..
Just hope to God it's doesn't end up as 1861.....if you know what I mean.
I'm not attacking you, just curious. How does one go about personal geothermal and water production? I understand digging a well, but what percentage of people live in areas where it's even possible to dig a well? And how many people can afford to dig deep enough to tap into geothermal power? Same goes for wind power. Wouldn't you need a big-ass turbine to generate enough wind power and how do you get the permits to construct such a thing on your property? Solar I can see in some areas, particulary since all that Solyndra product is going for pennies on the dollar.
@ElvisDog,
There are lots of folks aready doing this - perhaps a peek at either "Mother Earth News" or "Homesteading" or other like minded magazines may point you in the direction of "ground zero implementation" over "mass production implementation", big differences as I'm sure you know.
The "key" to the referenced 'lifesytle' in the post you question is working together as a community, not as a lone wolf, and that also makes all the difference. One example is "barn raising" - a large, two story barn would take one man several months to build, but if a community got together to do it, then it commonly goes up in one day - the Amish are famous for this "cooperation" and "community building" - luckily no one "must be Amish" to enjoy or partake of such a lifestyle, whether by necessity or choice.
If TSHTF, many people will have to relocate to rural areas, and considering the % of government owned real estate, there is plenty to be had. And "squatting" on some government lands is still legal. My guess is - should TSHT - the govt. will be encouraging to demanding everyone move to the cities where they are "easier to take care of"... Should that happen the Ds and the Rs will continue to be separated by "political/character" views.
Those who can "control" window lighted warehouses in the cities may end up controlling the food supply for that city, for without light, plants do not do well.... there are a varity of ways to get heat or cooling for year round production, but plants need sun light...
I also am wondering if such a reach to an even longer end of the yield curve might over the proximate trigger to the end of the secular bond bull. Right now there is a ruse going on. It might be brought into the light of day by that one.
Some of us are pretty sure that day has already arrived. Do you feel like the candidates who are thrust upon us are even remotely what people really want to vote for? Do you notice that when someone like Ron Paul emerges on the national stage, the entire media machine and the party machines do everything possible to crush him (quite successfully so far, I might add). Our system is just a heck of a lot better at hiding what it is because we have staged debates and most importantly, two parties who supposedly represent different things. As long as people believe they are electing people of their chosing, there is no revolt. Pretty damn clever if you ask me.
" As long as people believe they are electing people of their chosing, there is no revolt. "
People rarely if ever revolt because they dislike the political situation...
People revolt when they get hungry.
I got news: Our vote doesn't count. The same interests control both parties. If you hold views with material differences, then, like Ron Paul on the right and Bernie Sanders on the left, you are marginalized. It's a one-party fascist enterprise cooperatively managed by transnational cartels. Call it National Socialism, American style.
Say what you want of the tenants of National Socialism, but at least its' an ethos.
BTW Did you see metah world peace on DWS? OMG LOL FAIL.....
Save our children with The ultimate Jobs Plan - abolish the federal government - I saw this article on Whiskey and Gunpowder and had to share it with you all. An interesting proposal, yet there is no implementation plan. It starts with removing the shackles of unsound money and replacing it with Constitutional money; gold and silver coin. If they don't control our money they will find it harder to control us.
http://whiskeyandgunpowder.com/a-sound-jobs-plan-pull-the-federal-government/
That is a very well written and good article. I agree with it completely. Thanks for posting it.
how do I get my eyes on his regular missives...? or are they only for the well to do? and Rosie's too?
Vote with a bullet.
Flawed logic, vote with your currency and 'buy' money...
Yeah, until the "recall" happens and they outlaw real money.
We're not there yet are we? Until that happens let's see if we can get them to join us instead of beat us. Gold before lead is all I'm saying...
Why does a sovereign country have debt at all?
Because nobody is willing to rush the money changer's temple and flip their printers.
TraderJoe asks the most provocative question of the week.
the answer is less provocative...because it is NOT Sovereign
'cos as a sovereign it can by definition do what it likes; make war with other people's money for other people's oil; buy, buy buy; with other people's sweat and cash on borrowed trust. You know whom I'm referring to as the profligate sovereign...n its not China. Live like a sovereign with divine rights. Right?
Now the catch is does a sovereign state then say : i don't have debts that I don't want to pay and walk away from ANOTHER sovereign state? Or will there be retribution like at Huntsville prison.... for the common man?
Think Greece today, Others tomorrow...all the way up to the top.
Because, despite thousands of years to develop a better solution, humans have never developed or implemented a governmental mechanism which maintains a fair and balanced stasis... for lack of a better term, we still believe in magic... and don't really care to learn the follies of our predecessors.
to line the banker's pockets... everything else is noise
To the voter with a bullet:
Please vote for yourself first, amigo!
Great idea! Why not go all out and issue 1000 year Treasuries?
Do people actually pay Art Cashin for his advice or skills?
Actually, Art is correct. IF, if, if we are ever really going to do anything about our long term debts and deficits we need to lock in these stupid low, artificially low, probably never seen again low rates. It buys time. However, we have idiots at the helm of the Minnow and we will do the dumbest possible things. We will do the short term stuff because it is at virtual zero.
Our kids have it good but it's supposed to be that way. I have it better than my grandparents. However, we have an economic structure that will soon collapse...then we will have it worse and have to decide the way out. This is where democracy is weak. It is most likely the majority will vote for an autocrat, not a Ron Paul or libertarian.
"There is the notion that a democracy gets what is wants...good and hard."
H.L. Mencken (Paraphrased)
Naaaa. The real gem is the following monologue from Rush yesterday:
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_091911/content/01125109.guest.html
That's why he's been on top for the last 23 years..... and counting :)
That's some really real wrestling there.
"The reason that we are in the fiscal position that we're in in this country so that people who work in government have been irresponsible, totally and 100% irresponsible. Now, being honest you could lay a majority of this blame to the Democrat Party. They live and breathe off the notion of ever-expanding government, government running more and more of people's lives."
Yeah Rush, that's the ticket! It's ALL the democrats fault! Republican administrations from Nixon to Reagan to Bush have exhibited exemplery fiscal responsibility and they all SHRUNK the government whle the Democrats expanded it!
What absolute rubbish.
90% of the population is perpetually caught up in the Red Team/Blue Team crap. At least when someone tells you they are a Rush fan, you can save yourself the time of wondering if they have anything valuable to tell you.
same with the guy who says "Obama was handed a really shitty situation..."
The blame is shared if you read it correctly but more is assigned to Dems. That IS correct. Frankly, we seem to have a one party system with two wings. The Dems run left and the Republicans grouse but walk left.
Ron Paul and libertarians are the only true conservatives.
Partisan putz puts pathetic platitudes public pacifying puerile pinkertons' petulant pathos.
Ellroy is that you?
Nah...he has talent and bow-ties; I have my hair and a penchant for alliteration.
Let's comically assume that party affiliation is meaningful and take this statement from Rush about the Democrats: They live and breathe off the notion of ever-expanding government, government running more and more of people's lives.
This is true if you can overlook Medicare drug expansion, runaway military spending, the Patriot Act, to name a few. But then I am taking this clown at his word.
You're exposing his strategery.
Megadittos!
Yes people, the Democrats are the ones pissing more money away in BS entitlement programs over the last 80 years. Social Security and Medicaid/care are ruining America's balance sheet, and those wouldn't have happened without Democrats backing them. Yes both parties have some responsibility, but get your heads out of your asses, the Dems have been driving the socialist agenda. Not only that, these are the people who want to divide us into categories and pit us against each other; class warfare. The people who vote Dem are MORE responsible for the spending, yes! I can't believe the number of people here who refuse to assign the same blame that the Dems are assigning to you. I'll take my down arrows from you assholes now. Are you fucksticks defending the Democrats actions of the last 80 years? If so maybe I'm on the wrong site.
The bankers and MIC are certainly not taking being #2 sitting down, no sir.
He's been on top for 23 years because of the amazing number of intellectually challenged listeners... ignorance is indeed bliss Peter.
Art you've seen some pretty good days. Unfortunatly those days are behind us as the system breaks down. Hopefully something better will be rebuilt but I kind of have my doubts with the current crop of leaders we have. I fear something much worse is on the way.
Dr. Engali, regrettably, I agree -- "something much worse is on the way."
Papers, pleece?
It seems comrade, that your papers are not in order. Step this way.
Hogwash! My children's future is secure; I've invested their entire legacy in Netflix,... er,.. uh,... or was that Qwikster...
Qwikster. What an appropriate name. How fast can you lose your a** in this market? Qwikster than you could ever believe.
The difference between my family and the gubamint is that here, the big Kahuna in the sky, the Central Bank of Dad, My House Appropriations Committee says "No". As in it's a complete sentence, needs no explination, to which there is no reasonable retort ("Why?" not being considered even as unreasonable, just noise.) may or may not be preceeded with the all purpose and possibly finest word in the English Language "Fuck" and curtails further debate vis "Closure of this Conversation."
We thereby do not spend, curtail outlays and move toward balancing our budget.
I don't take anybody shedding tears for "the children" seriously unless they're putting a debt jubilee and wholesale bankster prosecutions on the table.
Otherwise, they're just opportunistically bullshitting from a pose of deep concern for others, imo.
Yes, JUBILEE!
Exactly. If you care about the children, and yourself, you'll solve the problem and not rob someone else.
Bob, this is exactly why there can never be a political solution to the problem... or at least a palatable one. Until we claw back the ill gotten gains of the last few decades (with a heavy bias towards the more recent years), no political proposition has enough goodwill to get sufficient buy-in from the productive members of the populace... and it's going to take a significant amount of time for a justice system to fairly sift through the various cases. Time that we don't really have...
The other alternative is to essentially kill them all (oft proposed in the comment sections of this site), but this would typically be followed by a ridiculous and oppressive government (aside from the inherent impossibility of any mob to administer justice over even a small amount of exercises)... probably not any better (and probably worse) than the present (at least we presently have the plausibly deniable illusion of free will). The power needed to pursue such a course would not easily be relinquished... the hydra otherwise known as power.
The solution is simple in theory, but in practice it's very difficult...
Agreed. Unfortunately, those who deserve haircuts are the guys who own the system. Naturally enough, for them at least, they defend the status quo at all costs.
For the rest, even the lame intervention of addressing the symptoms by means of taxation is not available. Those who own the game make the rules.
Quite a fix we're in. And #winning is not in the script for the common man.
The Bankers & The Politicians are destroying our world, if I were Ron Paul I would beware of the Secret Service agents assigned "to protect". Protect whom?
...if he wins Super Tuesday, he could have a "heart attack" from all the excitement.
"To Hell With The Kids"
What I find hilarious in all of this is that they think the kids are actually going to pony up for this shit.
As one of "the kids" (Generation X) with 2 younger brothers (Mellineals), I can promise you we aren't going to pay for shit.
The revolution is coming. It always builds slowly. Everyone I associate with is already preparing, most of us in concert with the older members of our families. They trust us, and know we mean it when we say they aren't going to retire with benefits.
As a whole, this will play out as GENERATIONAL WARFARE. The Gen X and younger crowd will tell the baby boomers to fuck off and die. You may not like it, you may not think "it's fair," but it's coming.
If you're 50+, you better be preparing, because you aren't going to get anything you think you've got "coming to you."
You've been warned.
My generation was young and stupid once, too. How about showing that older and lesser generation you condemn that you've got a little more on the ball by going after the banksters and their toadies in finance who pulled the whole thing off?
Have a clue, dumbass.
It's got nothing to do with being young and stupid. And it's not that on an individual level we condemn the previous generations--it's the collective.
And that's what the problem was before and is now -- the collective. Those of us in the younger generations will say fuck you to the collective--both its mentality and its population.
The PRODUCERS are done with paying to carry other people as their burden. The banksters and their toadies are indeed parasites that will be eradicated. But we will not be sparing the parasites at the other end of the spectrum. We will look out for our own only, so those currently receiving handouts will get shafted as well.
To be clear, I'm not calling for generational warfare. I'm just pointing out that this is how it will ultimitely manifest. There will be no mercy shown from some new collective. We will stiff the banksters, and when that happens, those involved in any sort of government sponsored benefit (AKA mandated transfer payment) will suffer as collateral damage. This will hit the older generations the hardest as they will be past the point in life where they can continue to support themselves.
I've thought about this incessantly for going on a year now. It has me scared for all of those I care about, but I honestly don't see how it possibly plays out any other way.
180` turn there Larry well done, never forget we are all in this together...
Well said. Im an X'er and the choice before me is clear- either those ahead of me or my kid and those behind me.
There is only one option, and the boomers arent going to like it.
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That's really inspiring--instead of addressing the real root cause of the problem, you'll join an ignorant mob to hang the victims of this fucked up system in the name of Justice!
That it will be the old and the sick you'll heroically heave to the gutter is brilliantly convenient, though. And what would better serve the iGeneration than something so convenient?
Dress it up any way you like, young man, but I see Brown Shirts.
Congratulations on that idealism.
" the victims ....... in the name of justice!"
I can see now that there can be no discussion of this with you without you throwing out assumptions as to my feelings.
I didn't say there would be any justice, and I never said there would be anything that could be considered heroic. I said I AM terrified of what's coming.
And again, your post only serves to drive further wedges between the generations with your sweeping generalizations, RE: "iGeneration"
I'm not sure I can see where the previous generations have given this so-called "iGeneration" anything of lasting value. And if they are indeed all about the ME ME ME, where do you suppose they learned such behavior?? Oh that's right, it's not your fault...you're the victims. Another problem with the collective mentality. No one is responsible. Someone else caused this. Everyone is the victim.
It's been a massive crime, but not everyone is a victim. Follow the money.
Sorry about over-extending my generational net, btw. I'd like to think we all, regardless of generational cohort, have other options available. Prophetic visions of inter-generational waterloos are counter-productive to those being recognized, imo.
If you and your generation don't get the right enemy in your sights, you're condemned to serving the same PTB and inevitably being condemned to the same fate as the boomers. Regardless of your illusions.
Sorry we failed to get it done--but blaming and discarding us will not solve the problem.
"but blaming and discarding us will not solve the problem"
I completely agree, but I'm afraid that this is what it will come to in the end. This is what keeps me up at night--how do you avoid this type of pitfall. The original post (which up re-reading was worded in a rather inflammatory manner) was meant to serve as a warning to the older generation of individuals reading the comments section that this is the most likely outcome, however unfortunate.
We need you to prepare, and not just for your own sake. If we (the younger crowd) are to mount an effective assault on the TPTB, we will need to be as unencumbered as possible. And as passionate as I feel about this stuff, I still will put the immediate needs of my family before the mission. I'm certain that this is what has allowed this charade to go on for as long as it has -- the people who want real change and understand what it takes have too many other commitments to those immediately around them.
Ah yes, the shit that happens while we're carrying on with our own lives. For most of my generation, that was raising kids, however wrong-headed the efforts were.
The bad news, I think you will find, is that until you're in a bind your generation will not address the fundamental problems. That's just human nature.
The best opportunity--and argument--for doing so will be exactly that scenario that keeps you up at night. It will test your generation's collective soul . . . you'll either support collective decency or further devolution into a fascist corporate dystopia.
You will most assuredly live in interesting times, fwiw.
The people I associate with in my day to day all support collective decency, just not forced collective redistribution. I love helping others when I can, but I don't like being forced to support a massive framework of idiocy.
As for not addressing until we are in a bind, you are currently correct at the macro level. But individually, you're wrong. The changes are occurring already--slowly and in a calculated manner.
"with 2 younger brothers (Mellineals) (sic)"
i'm sorry, but this was unintentionally funny, in an "educationally shafted" kind of way...it's "Millenials"
Glad you got a laugh.
Poster below caught that mistake as well.
>>>showing...that you've got a little more on the ball by going after the banksters and their toadies in finance who pulled the whole thing off?<<<
Because he's the perfect tool. There are at least two to three generations of these little stooges...and when they think they have "disposed" of the +50 crowd, the corps will rape them.
Some of them will wise-up.
My kid is almost 22 and he hasn't fallen for this generational warfare BS.
He knows who the enemy is.
The enemy is us. After, anyone who does not know who the enemy is, is the enemy.
[What I find hilarious in all of this is that they think the kids are actually going to pony up for this shit.]
And that is why this is headed inevitably to a civil war. One generation has no right to mortgage another generation into debt slavery. Human beings don't eat their young, only animals do. So yes this will be anouther war over slavery, but it won't look like CWI because we will in part be fighting over cyber territory and cyber currency (I'm talking Bitcoin, as it replaces digital fiat). This is a decades long war coming as the welfare state collapses. The younger generation has to default on $666 hundred thousand in unfunded labilities tied around their necks or be suffocated. http://futurnamics.com/goinggalt.php
Oh nobody actually expects the next generations to pay, don't be radicchio.....
The Lord of the Flies will be serving what for grandmother? ZIRP coupons!
"Human beings don't eat their young, only animals do."
Wrong... Humans have eaten their young many times. When people get hungry, really hungry, not just a little peckish, they will eat their young, your young, and anything else that will sustain them.
You need to do your history homework.
And read "The Road"
You just ain't whistling Dixie.
http://it.stlawu.edu/~rkreuzer/pcavallerano/leningradweb.htm
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You sound just like my kids, grandkids, nephews and neices. At 68, I am with you 100%. Grow up and do what you have to do. I can take care of myself or die. Sounds fair to me.
I have fought this socialist, big government shit for half a century and lost every battle outside the state of Texas. Somebody else is going to have to take up the good fight. That would be you and your contemporaries.
Cordially,
TwoHoot
did u win every battle within the state of TEXAS? Just asking...
No. But some, enough to matter.
Goldwater got my "free" vote (we had a poll tax then and it was free during the year you turned 21). At that time, the Democrat primary was THE election in Texas. There was no other party active in Texas. At least we have two viable competitive parties now. That is a big win.
Another big win was keeping the original Texas Constitution (which basically prohibits big governement) and defeating every attempt to institute a state income tax. The state is funded by sales tax and higher education by funds from leases and royalties on state lands.
Also, Texas was one of the last states to allow equity second mortgage loans so the housing boom and bust has been muted compared to other states. We lost some ground on absolute property rights there but it is still somewhat difficult to foreclose on a second home mortgage, so lenders are more careful about making them.
More recently, demanding that the Federal Government abide by the 10th Amendment to the constitution is a fight that hasn't been resolved yet. Progressives want to paint it as a secession movement. It isn't. It is about the Federal government abiding by the Constitution of the USA. I think we can win if the Gen Xers get active on this vital issue.
I could go on but it isn't really what this thread is about.
Cordially,
TwoHoot
Ty. Texas is original in many ways. I knew it professionally as an oil/gas producing power house where the oil lobby was very strong. I knew little about its legal-legislative system. It also has a negative image in Europe, where I live, about its record on capital punishment. One interesting aspect about USA future trends is the way the hispanic element, the regular immigrants, will fit in, continue to blend into the US system. It seems to be an issue in the red-blue stand-off as seen from here. Texas has a high component of hispanic and black populations. So it will, as a populous state, be a good yardstick of how the USA will address these issues in coming years.
Texas is definitely heavily influenced by Mexican culture and heritage. I don't see or feel the animosity between Anglos and Hispanics that gets news media attention in other border states (like Arizona and California) and non-border states. It is rare to find an established Texan Anglo family that doesn't have close Hispanic relatives or in-laws. Same applies to established Texan Hispanic families with Anglo relatives.
The Texas-Mexico border has always been more or less open, in fact if not by law.
Both Anglo and Hispanic Texans are very concerned about the drug cartel violence so prevalent in Mexico spilling over into Texas. I think most Anglos and Hispanics would agree that the problem is crime and violence, not immigration per se.
There really aren't that many blacks in Texas, about 11.6% of the population which is less than the US average. It is concentrated in large cities and deep East Texas. I grew up in far west Texas as a member of the Anglo minority. I was probably 10 years old before I ever even saw a black person.
Capital crime gets capital punishment in Texas.
Cordially,
TwoHoot
Whats coming?
It's good to be outraged, but not when it's misplaced, most Gen x'ers i know can't fill out a job application let alone shoulder the pressures of life, you know the cost of raising the very same dead-beat gen-x'ers your putting your faith in.
But you can blame me if you want, or the Mexicans because all you Gen-xer's are just lining up for those landscaping and dishwashing jobs. time to get out of the basement junior.
Good luck with that revolution though as yall be looking round for someone to take the lead.
PUTZ
I'm not blaming any one individual or any one generation for the problems (see reply to another poster above), but if you don't study differences in generations of americans you can't understand what I'm talking about. You can only lash out.
As a Gen-X'er, here's what I, and my whole generation have seen throughout our lives, and in mostly real time due to advances in technology and information transmission:
We've lived our entire lives watching the FAILURE OF INSTITUTIONS, from public shools to our parents marraiges. There is ZERO faith as a result that any institution can right the American ship.
Therefore, institutions will be abandoned--especially government run institutions.
As for a general malaise that you associate with Gen-X, that runs through every living generation alive in this country right now at the collective level. As for revolutions, it usually only takes about 5 to 10 percent of a group to get one going. With the current method of exchange (US FRN's) leveraged to ungodly heights, 5 to 10 percent is more than sufficient to start a run. So the majority that you speak of isn't going to prevent what's coming.
it's a good start, but next you need to work on sweeping gene-rationalisations because there are no absolutes in age groups, nor sex-types(gender), nor race-types, etc. - no absolutes, so drop the "lines drawn" myths.
the "I and my whole generation" is non-sense, I can point to hundreds of individuals who share your generation, but not your values - and no doubt many who share your values, but not your imagined "perfect age" - for instance, I was raised with the institutional bullshit of poor schooling, strict religion, and generational poverty - I could see very early on in my 20's that the institutions were pushing me into roles that would stifle whatever I knew myself to be - and so, as you advocate, I dropped them from my reality. . . of course, the institutions still exist, and many people still support them, but I don't, and I encourage others, of any age, to question their allegiance(s).
so would you come for me with pitchforks? how will you know I'm more on your "side" than theirs? a long questionaire or interview? will there be a test? or will you just go by appearances?
live your life in the way you wish others to, be the example, attract those who "see" your example as worthy of emulation - forget about revenge, or setting things "right" or whatever - get on with being, and maybe extending a hand to those similar.