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The Asian-American Arms Race In Charts

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"Asia is a study in contrasts. It is home to economic freedom and political liberty; it is also home to political instability and tyranny. Some of Asia’s borders are unsettled and volatile. And military budgets and capabilities are expanding, sometimes faster than economic growth. The rise of China as a great power presents both sides of this equation. It is being watched carefully by all the countries of the region. It is the U.S. that is recognized as the catalyst in ensuring a prosperous peace over conflict. America is a Pacific power. That much is a matter of geography and history. But the facts – and America’s principles and interests – demand more than resignation to geography. They call for continued American leadership, commitment, and the predominant comprehensive power that has enabled Asia’s very welcomed, opportunity-laden rise."

Thus prefaces the Heritage Foundation its Asian 'Book of Charts', which summarizes most of the key economic, financial, trade, geopolitical, most importantly militaristic tensions both in Asia and, by dint of being the global marginal economic force, the world itself. And while we will present the complete deck shortly, of particular interest we find the summary in 7 easy charts how Asia is slowly but surely catching up on that accepted by conventional wisdom GloboCop - the United States.

We present it in its entirety below.

Arms race brewing in Asia

Asian Navies vary broadly in size

China is gaining on US Navy

Americas forward deployed military

areas disputed in China, Japan, and Koreas

China's desruptive South China Sea

Areas disputed in China and India Mainland


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Wed, 07/18/2012 - 18:45 | 2630045 iDealMeat
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Schank you bitchez



Wed, 07/18/2012 - 19:14 | 2630086 Michael
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The USA can blow up the entire planet 10 times over. Who cares about increasing it another ten times, you only need to do it once.

In other news;

Sen. Paul Introduces "Write the Laws Act" as promised

AKRON, Ohio, July 18, 2012 -- /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ --

"Legislation without representation: Every day new laws are imposed on you by people who aren't elected," says Jim Babka, President of, Inc. "But that could change, thanks to Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky, who has introduced our 'Write the Laws Act' (WTLA) in the Senate."

"WTLA would prohibit unelected bureaucrats from passing laws and compel the elected Congress do its job," Babka explains. "WTLA would require that all laws, even the ones called 'regulations,' be passed by the people's representatives in Congress."

"It's frankly un-Constitutional to impose on the people without first consulting them, through their elected representatives," declares Babka. Pointing to the legal concept of "separation of powers" Babka continues, "Regulation without representation is an unconstitutional delegation of powers."

By introducing WTLA (S. 3361), Senator Paul fulfills a campaign promise. But he's also addressing a passion he has for accountability.

Paul is already the lead sponsor, in the Senate, for the REINS Act, which works from the opposite direction on a very similar problem. "As we have seen at the EPA and FCC, unelected bureaucrats can advance a radical agenda when it loses legislatively or in the courts."

WTLA requires that . . .

•Any rules that citizens must obey must be passed solely by Congress, with no details left to bureaucrats.
•Americans must be held blameless, in the courts, against any rules created in violation of this requirement.
•Previous grants of legislative power to bureaucrats must be identified, so that Congress can efficiently exercise its prerogative to repeal or reform them.

Babka commends Senator Paul for keeping his word. "It's a rare politician that honors his promises. Now we can begin to collect Senate co-sponsors for this vital reform," Babka concluded.


Wed, 07/18/2012 - 19:28 | 2630102 rocker
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You would have thought Tyler would look at ALL weapons and the simple fact that all militaries are overstocked.

There are ways that we have. Many are not even mentioned anywhere. Think HARP, LASER, SOUND. LIGHT and Chemical.

Just what we need, something else to get the Neocons in a truffle again.  GEEEZZZZZZZZZZZ.

Wed, 07/18/2012 - 19:32 | 2630110 john39
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overstocked with crappy equipment... and yet soldiers on multiple tours committing suicide at higher rates than combat deaths...

Wed, 07/18/2012 - 20:40 | 2630282 The They
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The USA is making the same mistake that germany did in the world wars: they will start any conflict with the most powerful military but will have created it by sacrificing actual production capacity (which we've been doing for decades).  military might isn't just about how many troops/ships/planes etc one can deploy all at once.  it is also about how fast one can REPLACE the troops/ships/planes etc.... In this sense we are ill equiped for a major war (unless we go nuclear, in which case everyone loses).

Wed, 07/18/2012 - 23:15 | 2630670 mjk0259
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Indeed, we can't even make most weapons without Chinese parts and they may have viruses and trap doors embedded. China can make them without US parts and steals our designs almost immediately.

Wed, 07/18/2012 - 23:24 | 2630696 Spirit Of Truth
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And what makes u think China is honest about its military spending?

Wed, 07/18/2012 - 20:24 | 2630247 monoloco
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If we engage in an arms race with the Chinese, they'll do to us what we did to the Soviets.

Wed, 07/18/2012 - 20:42 | 2630294 The They
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Exactly.  Not to mention the fact that a lot of the raw materials (do you know how many pounds of rare earths from china go into one patriot missile?) and even produciton of our military equipment is done overseas.  This is a  major weakness.

Wed, 07/18/2012 - 21:10 | 2630370 Reptil
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Wed, 07/18/2012 - 22:10 | 2630527 The They
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certainly... but also:

"|There isn't anything electronically that the Department of Defense does that does not involve the use of rare earth elements. Some other defense uses we like to talk about are guidance and control systems, smart bombs and Patriot missiles. None of these devices works without rare earths in them."

Thu, 07/19/2012 - 03:55 | 2630937 slackrabbit
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4 people voted negative?

How many nukes do these people think we need?

I would have thought 1000% earth distruction would have been enough!

Or does someone want have an interest in the military-indutrial complex?

They can send their kids first...and last.

Wed, 07/18/2012 - 19:19 | 2630095 Bleeding Fart
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Oh, hmm... I thought this post was going to discuss the arming of Ivy League whizkids.

Wed, 07/18/2012 - 20:09 | 2630206 Zone1
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And I thought this article was going to be about how the percentage of Asian Americans packing heat was going up.

Wed, 07/18/2012 - 18:46 | 2630046 Xibalba
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military industrial complex complexity...

Wed, 07/18/2012 - 22:29 | 2630577 financial apoca...
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Thu, 07/19/2012 - 00:31 | 2630793 thefedisscam
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FUCK U.S. of A.!

Wed, 07/18/2012 - 18:46 | 2630047 localpacific
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Wed, 07/18/2012 - 19:01 | 2630068 q99x2
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Yes but the US has Hillary.


Wed, 07/18/2012 - 20:40 | 2630288 Normalcy Bias
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Yes, I see your point! It's good to be playing checkers while China, Russia, Iran, etc. play chess...

Wed, 07/18/2012 - 20:41 | 2630289 FieldingMellish
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Hildog! Woof! Woof! We could sneak a snuke up her snizz.

Wed, 07/18/2012 - 19:04 | 2630069 buzzsaw99
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The numbers during the cold war were scarier than that. I wonder if the chinese nuke subs are armed with nuclear weapons or just propulsion systems? Either way I wouldn't want a ride on one.

Wed, 07/18/2012 - 19:07 | 2630071 FieldingMellish
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Look at the submarine graph (blue). It looks like they have 2 that are equiped with ballistic missiles. Such large and expensive sub-orbital missiles are rarely cnventional and almost certainly nuclear.

Wed, 07/18/2012 - 19:15 | 2630076 buzzsaw99
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Thank you.

edit: according to wiki the missiles have a range of 5000 miles:

Wed, 07/18/2012 - 19:27 | 2630103 nmewn
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Thank you Loral Space & Bubba.

Thu, 07/19/2012 - 07:29 | 2631072 Ghordius
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I remember how Bush the Younger came back from Taiwan with an arms shopping list featuring prominently diesel-electric subs. He went to GE, and they told him they would not do them - only nuclear subs. Of course the Dutch, the Germans, the Italians and a few more were very keen on getting on board of a deal, since they do produce them, but this did not fit the prez's strategies at all, he preferred to lose face in front of the Taiwanese and renege his promise to them.

In case you wonder, diesel-electric subs are seen as the cheapest maritime defensive platform, thanks to the small size they can have, and of course their quiteness.

Wed, 07/18/2012 - 19:40 | 2630124 Dr. Engali
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Are you saying there might be a problem with Chinese construction?


Certainly not.

Wed, 07/18/2012 - 19:06 | 2630073 FieldingMellish
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An extremely expensive (read: taxpayer funded) arms race. What could possibly go wrong?

Wed, 07/18/2012 - 19:07 | 2630075 I am Jobe
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Guns Vs Butter Bitchezzz. Penis size does matter in wars.

Wed, 07/18/2012 - 19:23 | 2630100 nmewn
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Wed, 07/18/2012 - 19:10 | 2630079 Segestan
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Global cop and Liberal leadership has been a Huge success for America.... except we're broke.

Wed, 07/18/2012 - 19:15 | 2630081 miltiadis
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Size Matters but skill matters more...

Wed, 07/18/2012 - 19:40 | 2630123 john39
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300 spartans....    yes, they had allies...  but you get the point.  and yes, they lost the battle and died, but how did the war work out in the end.

Wed, 07/18/2012 - 20:34 | 2630273 zerozam
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Penis envy?

Thu, 07/19/2012 - 03:52 | 2630936 slackrabbit
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In the famous word of Edmund Black-Adder 'Its not size that counts, its where you stick it'

Wed, 07/18/2012 - 19:11 | 2630082 MrPalladium
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The idea that the US must deploy bases and naval forces around the World in order to maintain peace and stability is laughable.

The US is the greatest force for instability and violence in the World.

Wed, 07/18/2012 - 19:45 | 2630135 I am Jobe
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+1 well said

Wed, 07/18/2012 - 19:16 | 2630088 yabyum
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Dear Heritage Foundation, You write the checks for your adventure, and send your kids to go fight and die, Mittins has five boyz ready to join up and go. Me, I am broke but will stay here to watch over the women, old and the kids.

Wed, 07/18/2012 - 19:38 | 2630118 john39
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mittens is probably brain washed enough to send his kids to die...  despite that he toughed it out in France to dodge the draft during vietnam.  total tool, not that obomber isn't.

Wed, 07/18/2012 - 19:43 | 2630129 FieldingMellish
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That is why I support a draft with the children of elected officials first in line to go. This will make them think twice or three times about going to war.

Wed, 07/18/2012 - 20:14 | 2630220 PulpCutter
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My idea, now that war isn't 100% physical, is to draft ALL 55yr-old males for mandatory combat duty anytime America is at war.  I imagine you'd see a sudden downturn in sabre-rattling by the right.

Wed, 07/18/2012 - 22:22 | 2630556 cynicalskeptic
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When a nation's leaders - be they kings, emperors or presidents - were at head of armies on the battlefield, nations were far less inclined to go to war.   Thew number of elected officials in COngress - and their CHILDREN - who have served in the military are minimal.  An 'all-volunteer' military is viewed as 'expendale'.  Remember the smirk on W's face when queried about our troops in Iraq?   'Well.... they volunteered, didn't they?'

Wed, 07/18/2012 - 23:19 | 2630680 mjk0259
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Don't think so. A lot of them liked wars and they didn't know how to do anything else. There was endless wars for thousands of years when kings used to go. Rarely did a person escape one during their lifetime.

Wed, 07/18/2012 - 19:30 | 2630107 PulpCutter
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America spends more on "defense" than the rest of the world, combined.   $1050 billion/year including Department of "Homeland" Security, VA, NSA, and military parts of the CIA and State Dept.  China runs a very, very distant second, at $115 billion/year.

Yet in the eyes of the Heritage Foundation, we're in an arms race with China.  Heritage Foundation are the same right-wing waterheads who proposed the individual mandate in 1989, but now calls it a Constitutional crisis.

These guys bend over for whoever is paying them.  They can't be trusted as far as you can throw them.

Wed, 07/18/2012 - 19:51 | 2630154 Dr.Vannostrand
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You make a good point @ 1st, but then must water it down with your left/right diatribe that you MUST include in every post you make. Come on man, I'm sure most ZHers are intelligent enough to know which way the Heritage F leans without you bitching about the right. Just saying, it gets a little old and turns the comments into an arguement. For a youngin like myself, the comments provide a lot of good info from more seasoned vets on a plethora of topics. Just laying it out there, and no, I'm not a rethug; I'm 30, wrote in Dr. Paul in '08 and will again.

Wed, 07/18/2012 - 20:41 | 2630234 PulpCutter
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Just curious, when have you ever seen a left-leaning ZH article? 

Excellent, very fresh market commentary, combined with right-wing propaganda.  Not that they have any responsibility in that regard - it's their site, as far as I'm concerned that gives them every right to publish whatever they like.

Thu, 07/19/2012 - 07:03 | 2631046 Bringin It
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ZH is anti-war.  In your cosmology is that considered "left-leaning"?  Being anti-war?

I agree with Kramer.  The dichotomy is just cover for the mafia looting.  You can debate abortion while they empty out the inventory.

Wed, 07/18/2012 - 19:54 | 2630158 nmewn
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China doesn't have the equivalent of DHS, NSA, CIA and State Dept. ?


Fucking sign me

Wed, 07/18/2012 - 19:59 | 2630171 old naughty
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I wonder if Heritage got the data from Chinese propagander machines?

There's a TV channel broadcasting military might 7/24 in China. Nauseating.

Thu, 07/19/2012 - 03:49 | 2630933 slackrabbit
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Which one CNN, Fox and MSNBC?

Thu, 07/19/2012 - 08:43 | 2631239 matrix2012
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just do one's pick :-)


Who Owns The Media? The 6 Monolithic Corporations That Control Almost Everything We Watch, Hear And Read

Back in 1983, approximately 50 corporations controlled the vast majority of all news media in the United States.  Today, ownership of the news media has been concentrated in the hands of just SIX incredibly powerful media corporations.  These corporate behemoths control most of what we watch, hear and read every single day.  They own television networks, cable channels, movie studios, newspapers, magazines, publishing houses, music labels and even many of our favorite websites. Sadly, most Americans don't even stop to think about who is feeding them the endless hours of news and entertainment that they constantly ingest.  Most Americans don't really seem to care about who owns the media.  But they should.  The truth is that each of us is deeply influenced by the messages that are constantly being pounded into our heads by the mainstream media.  The average American watches 153 hours of television a month.  In fact, most Americans begin to feel physically uncomfortable if they go too long without watching or listening to something.  Sadly, most Americans have become absolutely addicted to news and entertainment and the ownership of all that news and entertainment that we crave is being concentrated in fewer and fewer hands each year.      

THE SIX CORPORATIONS that collectively control U.S. media today are TIME WARNER, WALT DISNEY, VIACOM, RUPERT MURDOCH'S NEWS CORP., CBS CORPORATION and NBC UNIVERSAL.  Together, the "big six" absolutely dominate news and entertainment in the United States.  But even those areas of the media that the "big six" do not completely control are becoming increasingly concentrated. For example, Clear Channel now owns over 1000 radio stations across the United States.  Companies like Google, Yahoo and Microsoft are increasingly dominating the Internet.

Read on at

Thu, 07/19/2012 - 09:24 | 2631456 matrix2012
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Just take a look at the abundant links of the relation between the Heritage Foundation and the Bilderberg Conference!


A jump start about Bilderberg Conference:

How far its reaches (in jpg graph):
Wed, 07/18/2012 - 19:47 | 2630144 orangegeek
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Cold War, The Sequel.

Wed, 07/18/2012 - 19:49 | 2630149 Winston Churchill
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Why do you neeed warships when all it takes is a phone call;

Sell,sell,sell all the UST's.

Wed, 07/18/2012 - 20:04 | 2630186 old naughty
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wait, who are you suggesting would buy them, in that scenario?

Wed, 07/18/2012 - 21:40 | 2630440 Winston Churchill
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There is no one except Uncle Ben.

Really I don't think they own them anymore anyway.

Sure they've used them as collateral at Western banks

for loans to buy hard assets.I would have if the roles were reversed.

They would just stop paying the loans and crash the whole banking system.

Chinese squid mode,screw the barbarians.

Wed, 07/18/2012 - 19:57 | 2630163 bankonzhongguo
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We would not be in much of an arms race with China had some of the biggest flag waving American defense and IT companies not transferred certain technologies to China.  Now their communications are better (often better than US), their missiles fly straighter and farther and they are waving at us from space.  Thanks Fortune 100!

Never mind the sheer volume of Chinese grad students, PhD and post-docs in US universities ready to return to the Motherland and transfer the business of basic science from the USA.  Engagement Rocks!

Lord knows I am personally responsible for a lot of this having drank the China kool-aide in the 1980's.  Just these Newsweek sabre-rattling chartish worry-frauds grow so tiresome.


Thu, 07/19/2012 - 09:47 | 2631550 matrix2012
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Which country is engaged in ENDLESS WARS after WWII?

Controlled and driven by the Khazarian (aka. Ashkenazi) banksters to feed the Military-industrial complex (MIC) and carry on their Illuminati's dirty agendas to dominate the entire world, to set up the One World Government or New World Order?



    “The Nomadic Parasites will shift out of London and into Manhattan. And this will be presented under a camouflage of national slogans. It will be represented as an American victory. It will not be an American victory.

    Until you know who has lent what to whom, you know nothing whatever of politics, you know nothing whatever of history, you know nothing of international wrangles.” — Ezra Pound (1885–1972)


The monopoly of money, or the restriction of its circulation, is merely a variation of this simple form of monopoly. That is all. The stupid fall into the trap. Wars are provoked in succession, deliberately, by the great usurers, in order to create debts, to create scarcity, so that they can extort the interest on these debts, so that they can raise the price of money (i.e., the price of the various monetary units controlled by, or in the possession of, the same autocrats), altering the prices of the various monetary units when it suits them, raising and lowering the prices of the various foodstuffs when it suits them, completely indifferent to the human victim, to the accumulated treasures of civilization, to the cultural heritage.” — Ezra Pound (1885–1972)


Read The History of the House of Rottenschilds by ANDREW HITCHCOCK as well:

( .ppt version: )

Wed, 07/18/2012 - 20:44 | 2630306 dolph9
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Arms races are only meaningful if you actually end up going to war.

But nobody in the modern, plump, 7 billion +, world wants to go to war.  And I can't blame them.

So back to your Ipad and Cheetos and Call of Duty.

Wed, 07/18/2012 - 21:52 | 2630466 Jack Burton
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The whole basis of America's vast imperial military is borrowed money. Much of it borrowed from China and a good deal from Russia. Now America is so deep in debt and borrowing so much money to fund it's military and social welfare spending that something has got to give.

My guess is that China see clearly that the USA is an empire of debt. China will simply continue to improve it's military qualitatively as far as possible and wait while the greedy American bankers and wall-street speculators continue to feast off of what is left of the productive American economy. Till the day comes when America goes bankrupt and collapses from within.

China's goals are economic. China's goal for now is stability and military improvement. Time is on their side. If they can cement a good productive economic realtionship with resource rich Russia it will be all to the good for them.

People like the Heritage Foundation like enemies, they want to promote China as a threat, but the real threat is the greedy American elite of bankers, speculators, job outsourcers and military contractors. If America is brought low, it will not be China that does it, it will be the greedy bastards who crashed the American economy in 2008 and who continue to suck the wealth of the nation into their own greedy pockets.

This is no longer the America that fought World War two and built a nation into the most powerful in the world post war. No, bankers and wall-street pros like the Goldman Sachs crowd are a gang of greedy bloodsuckers who will destroy America. Forget China, they are not the threat.

Wed, 07/18/2012 - 21:56 | 2630490 Chuck Walla
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Subic Bay, what a sailor's dream it was. Fucked up and fucked for under $15.00.

Thu, 07/19/2012 - 00:25 | 2630773 Element
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Just yesterday senior US officials were warning the Australian Labor Govt not to, "try to hitch a free-ride" on US defence capabilities.

The US clearly wants to encourage more alliance spending on defense capabilities particularly by Australia, which since the Labor Govt came to power in 2007, has been finding new and innovative ways to pretend to maintain and expand defence capabilities, whilst really gutting and degrading them.

Which wouldn't be such a serious problem, if the country's defences and rapid long range response and stand-off capabilities were not flimsy and low in platform diversity and numbers to begin with.

I personally think successive Australia's Govts since Vietnam have seriously let down the ADF, and continues to do so, so the Australian people and the region will pay a price for it, and regional allies are not fooled, they know which way the wind is blowing, and if Australia is not a good alliance partner due to lack of credible capability, they will make other mutual arrangements and alignments, to best guard their interests and territory, and thus effectively downgrade links to Australia, as an alliance partner.

It is ultimately and simply put, a false-economy (at best), to be cutting defence at this time.

Thu, 07/19/2012 - 08:12 | 2631140 i-dog
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Don't get sucked in by the rhetoric. Australia will be "encouraged" to spend all that "defense" loot on "internal security": Body scanners at airports and state borders; drones in the skies; more kamps for "refugees". They will be used to supplement any US "advisors", currently sunning in Darwin, after a clampdown on the West.

The ability to drop a single nuke on Djakarta is far more important, defensively, than armadas of tanks stretching from Port Headland to Cape York.

And don't think that Gillard and Snake, er Swann, are the only problem ... both Abbott and Hockey are Luciferians. Same set of options as the Americans have.

Here is Abbott (Jesuit) speaking at the Heritage Foundation (founded by Jesuits) a few days ago:

Thu, 07/19/2012 - 10:57 | 2631961 matrix2012
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Australia Oz Oooo Aussie...


Plague In Australia

(AustraliaMatters) I was sent a heads up article (thanks PB) about a dual citizenship (cough) and others that pull the puppet strings of our so called Australian politicians.  Before I link to that brilliant article, I’d like to share a chilling quote that I believe fits that certain citizenship, down to the last character…


A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague.” Marcus Tullius Cicero




Then read on...


"A globalist rat's nest amidst the rise of Asia"


" contaminates an entire region's news, media, universities, literature, research, studies, and of course, through the papers and propaganda it produces with the clout it puts behind them, the region's politics and laws as well. The global corporatocracy is everywhere, affecting everything, perhaps so profoundly it escapes one's notice.

However, upon seeing this network exposed, the people involved, their history of promoting an unaccountable, self-serving agenda at everyone's expense but their own, we can begin rendering moot the false legitimacy they foist upon society with their fancy logos, lofty titles, disingenuous liberal-esque spin, their insufferable arrogance, and entire institutions co-opted or even contrived to serve their own ends..."

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 02:05 | 2634969 Element
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Oh for fucks sake, what does any of the duel-national jizz have to do with what I've said?

BTW, I've been warning people about that pack of duel bastards for years now.

 I live here, our defence force is fucking piss-weak, it should be MUCH stronger than it is.

That is the operative reality of the situation.

Sorry, I don't believe a peaceful and enlightened golden-age is about to dawn on the world.

Fri, 07/20/2012 - 01:49 | 2634950 Element
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I don't care a bit about "the rhetoric", the reality is the country's defences are in bad shape, ill prepared, too small-scale, under-funded, and should be a LOT stronger than that are.

This is an undeniable fact.

So why read into it what isn't there?

And I seriously doubt we will be nuking anyone, ever, especially not Jakarta.

I hardly think I need anyone to inform me that politician = bought puppet.

Pretty sure I know that.

Whatever else Abbott is, he's the ultimate suck-up due predominantly to a recognition of the dire need to ensure that the US military remains the strategic backstop for Australia, or else we're toast.

This also is an undeniable strategic reality.

Hence my comments.  If the ADF is weak, we are and will remain totally within the thrawl of Washington, and that is not a good thing for any country.  War does not stop just because you have no credible defence force--quite the reverse.

Thu, 07/19/2012 - 03:00 | 2630909 AnAnonymous
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World peace as brought to you by US citizenism.

Thu, 07/19/2012 - 06:34 | 2631013 reader2010
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Yes, the WWIII has been going on quietly and here is how the US is fighting it.

Thu, 07/19/2012 - 07:07 | 2631050 ParkAveFlasher
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America, the modern superpower I mean UNIONIZED FIREARM-LICENSED COP/THUG of the Pacific Ocean.


Thu, 07/19/2012 - 08:21 | 2631123 HardAssets
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It doesnt surprise me that such an article would come out of Heritage Foundation. They seem to draw their charts very selectively.

What about that statistic comparing US military spending to that of the rest of the world - is it as much as the next 40 nations combined now ?  (the figure of how many other  nations changes a bit year to year)

And where are the graphics showing the attempts to surround Russia with destabilizing missile & military bases - - - or the actions to block Chinese access to raw materials ?  And how about the maps comparing the number of US and Chinese and Russian military bases around the world ?

This thinking has helped bankrupt the American people and is a far greater threat to our security at the present time than the Chinese.

Study the history of the Cuban missile crisis in 1962. The military took a hard line stand and wanted to invade the island. But the Russian military had drawn their own line in the sand, and the result would have been thermo-nuclear World War 3. JFK and Russian leader Nikita Khruschev used back channel secret talks to ratchet down the situation. (And JFK let it be known to Khruschev that he feared that the US military might even try to overthrow him if they got word on the leaders talks.) If those two men hadnt been willing to talk to each other as concerned men -  with children and grandchildren, we likely wouldnt be having these little discussions today. We probably wouldnt be here.

Study the story of past empires. They often fall with overspending the resources of the citizenry, over reach into other territories, constant war & creation of enemies . . . and the tendency for hubris and believing their own bullshit.

Foreign 'enemies' and war are often used as a diversion from the crimes of the political leadership, as an excuse for suppression of opposition at home, and to draw the people together. Use this tactic enough times, and you may just succeed in killing off everyone.  - - To those that think "world war can't happen, its just a way for the greedy to make war monger profits" - - - - well somtimes shit happens, and someone screws up. Sometimes actions and events get out of control.  In 1962, two courageous leaders went around their own militaries and (with a little bit of luck perhaps) saved the world. Next time we might not be so fortunate.

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