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Bachmann Wins Ames Straw Poll With 29% Of Vote, Ron Paul Takes Second With 28%

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The Ames Straw vote results out of Iowa are in, and Michelle Bachmann appears to have won with 29% of the votes, or 4,823 of the 16,892 votes cast. Bernanke nemesis Ron Paul placed second, just 150 votes behind Bachmann, at 4,671, or taking down 28% of the total. For those stupefied by this result, a source on the ground informs us that Bachmann proceeded to hand out 6000 free tickets at $30 each with a mandatory registration at her booth to gain concert entrance. Furthermore, final results were probably tabulated by the BLS. As for other frontrunners, Pawlenty came in a distant third with 14% or 2,293 of the votes. The Hill has more: "A House member has never finished in the top two; extraordinarily, two House lawmakers finished nearly neck-and-neck toward the top. Bachmann is the first woman to ever win the straw poll. "We’re very excited," said Alice Steward, a spokesman for Bachmann. "it’s a very emotional night for her, she’s excited and thankful all the hard work of the supporters and volunteers paid off...Former Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Pa.) won about 10 percent, pizza magnate Herman Cain finished at about nine percent, and Rep. Thaddeus McCotter (R-Mich.) drew just 35 total votes. Murmurs of huge crowds at Waterloo native's splay on the campus of Iowa State University persisted throughout the day, suggesting that momentum was with — and never waned — from Bachmann's campaign." Rounding off the field were Santorum with 10% of the vote, Herman Cain with 9%, write ins Perry and Romney with 4% and 3%, respectively, and Gingrich getting 2%. We are not quite sure if this is the cue to laugh or cry. Our money is on the latter.

More from The Hill:

A rousing late-day speech that stressed social conservative credentials and Bachmann's ties to the Hawkeye State culminated with Bachmann beckoning undecided voters to her tent, which boasted air conditioning, seating, and performances by country star Randy Travis.


"Join me, I'm heading over to the voting booth right now," she said. "Come with me now."


Pawlenty's failure to finish in the top spot raises new questions about the core health of his campaign. The former Minnesota governor has failed to raise his poll numbers outside the single digits, and had poured most of his remaining resources into the straw poll, where he hoped a victory would infuse his campaign with new momentum. 


"We made progress in moving from the back of the pack into a competitive position for the caucuses, but we have a lot more work to do," Pawlenty said in a statement. "This is a long process to restore America -- we are just beginning and I'm looking forward to a great campaign."


Pawlenty had set expectations at a finish somewhere in the top-tier; he's said repeatedly that a first-place finish wasn't essential. But even Pawlenty acknowledged Friday that a disappointing finish would force him to "reassess" his campaign, which has set itself up as more of a traditional, nationally-oriented campaign.

As for Paul...

Paul's showing caps off an effort of almost five years, dating back to his first bid for the Republican nomination way back in 2007, when he started to assemble the vast grassroots organization that propelled him to victory in today's straw poll.


He made a midday speech to straw poll participants that was heavy on playing up the Texas congressman's opposition to abortion rights; he also emphasized his opposition to the war in Iraq and criticism of U.S. monetary policy — views that tend to place him outside of the Republican mainstream.


Paul's finish Ames makes Paul's candidacy look less like a longshot, and more like a realistic possibility. The straw poll is a good, if imperfect, indicator of Republicans choice to win next February's caucuses, and Paul's finish on Saturday makes it seem increasingly plausible that he could win those contests.

Of course, if Paul were to eventually become president, we would advise him to not come within 100 miles of any school book depositories. Also to avoid prepared food, theaters, public speeches, pope mobiles (in fact any form of transportation that goes over 15 mph), to run like the wind from any and all hot tubs, jacuzzis, swimming pools, and baths, and in general to conduct his long overdue gold standard policy from a bunker several miles underground if possible.

Alas, this may all be just a tad optimistic.


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Sat, 08/13/2011 - 19:40 | 1557742 High Plains Drifter
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that picture says it all............

Sat, 08/13/2011 - 19:50 | 1557763 nonclaim
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Between that and the Palin video where a turkey gets the head chopped off in the background I don't know which is worse...

Sat, 08/13/2011 - 20:22 | 1557852 WestVillageIdiot
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The caption for that picture should read, "Barney Frank, Eat Your Heart Out". 

Sat, 08/13/2011 - 20:24 | 1557856 Rusty_Shackleford
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Sat, 08/13/2011 - 20:32 | 1557876 JW n FL
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Crazy Eye's First Real Victim!

Ron Paul!

but she will fit right in with the Rockefellers!

Sat, 08/13/2011 - 23:35 | 1558256 caconhma
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These voting results are bogus.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 10:46 | 1558705 whstlblwr
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LOL, Ron Paul spend 1/10th the money Bachmann, and she round up 200 in tent at last minute take them to vote, so she win! Now Chris Wallace say top in race are Bachmann, Perry, Romney, not Paul, LOL. If Bachmann win primary we vote Obama, she control freak, if you want big brother and surveillance in bedroom, vote Bachmann. Perry crazy and oil pocket man, not change, plus he probably not able win because gay. Romney status quo.

Only problem with Paul now is his words to give nuclear to Iran. What? Fuck. But son say would follow constitution need approval congress.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 10:57 | 1558734 RockyRacoon
Sun, 08/14/2011 - 20:42 | 1560192 rocker
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Like a Shark.  The Eyes Roll Back and Gulp, all in one swallow, gone.

Mon, 08/15/2011 - 00:25 | 1560633 TruthInSunshine
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Well, boys and girls, it looks like we have a window, for those of you interested, in revealing to even the most sheeptastic of the sheeple (or sheople) just how pathetic and corrupt the Main & Lame Ass Stream Media really is.

I consider it no exaggeration whatsoever that the Main & Lame Ass Stream Media is one of the three pillars that's "in on the scam" that is everything forming the Greatest Ponzi Ever Known.

Lies & deceit, propagated 24/7, on an endless loop, using repetition and redundancy, to reinforce the 'story' that TPTB hope to keep spinning in some relatively successful manner.



Sun, 08/14/2011 - 11:40 | 1558867 damage
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He never said we would GIVE nuclear weapons to Iran, just that who cares if they develop them? Not that they could cause the mossad would sabotage them in a skinny minute.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 12:19 | 1558905 whstlblwr
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Think let them have nuclear is just as bad to many.

But Rick Perry reason in race now clear. Status quo scared of tea party, so get Perry, who have evangelical hallelujah, get in race to peel votes from the socials in Tea Party for Obama win. Sound like strategy.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 14:36 | 1559220 Votewithabullet
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you go now you been here for hour.

nappy hair is not allowed

ho pung yow

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 15:07 | 1559261 whstlblwr
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Hey racist pig, I'm not Chinese and if you don't reply, then wife can edit to your satisfaction. I speak five languages, how many do you speak?

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 16:54 | 1559590 Fractal
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Speak one language well more benefit than speak five languages poorly.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 17:20 | 1559664 whstlblwr
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He speaks better than he writes. Writes too fast.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 15:06 | 1559282 Chappaquiddick
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My ribs!!!!!

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 14:06 | 1559164 Rbh110
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Ron said he understands why they are pursuing nuclear weapons, not that they are entitled to them or that they should have them.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 15:02 | 1559269 whstlblwr
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Pretty sure he said entitled, but we'll watch debate again.

Mon, 08/15/2011 - 05:42 | 1560847 Ted K
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whstleblwr----How are those Chairman Mao English class for Shanghai losers going???  Hope you kept your receipt for the refund.  Tell the Shanghai travel bureau westerners like not to have to carry toilet paper on person 24 hours a day, and at least 2-ply is preferred. Oh, yeah, tell the Shanghai Municipal Government the squatting toilet went out of style together with the extinction of monkey brain species around 400 years ago.

This was a public service announcement for Chinese downtrodden. 

Sat, 08/13/2011 - 23:37 | 1558261 American Dissident
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And vice versa as so creatively symbolized by the action photo.  With just a wee bit of imagination we are all reminded that the more you blow the higher you go! WE-WEE-WEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 00:32 | 1558317 FEDbuster
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Newsweek eat your heart out, Zerohedge always has the best pictures!

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 00:59 | 1558343 Manthong
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Sun, 08/14/2011 - 05:01 | 1558476 A.W.E.S.O.M.-O 4000
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Matt Tiabbi has a good piece on her. He says that she is crazier than Sarah Palin but more dangerous because she in fact really does want to be President

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 09:48 | 1558621 goldfish1
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Among those on the fair circuit on Friday was Sarah Palin, who again told Fox News Channel's Sean Hannity she is still considering entering the race but was not at the fair for that purpose.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 09:50 | 1558622 knukles
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A-Maze-ing (pun!) how the MSM vilifies the Tea Party.... Must be the Party line, so to speak of the entrenched interests.  (giggle giggle duh duh)
Even Tiabbi labels her as Tea Party when in fact she's about a solid, middle of the road fucking hard core, bombs away today LeMay, screw the peasantry and limit  their rights neo-conservative as can be found. (Evidence, voting record)

Thing TPTB don't get are that as many more (becoming seemingly a humongoloid percentage just so fed up with business as normal) identify more and more with this strange amorphus Tea Party, villifying it only tends to move more folks into that camp.  "Say what?  I like a lot of those idea, I identify and so now I'm a dangerous fucking member of society when all I want is to be left alone?"
Keepit up, fellas. 

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 10:40 | 1558700 AnAnonymous
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Or maybe teapartiers should admit for some of them that what they see in the tea party is not what the majority of the other tea party want the tea party to be.

This US citizen woman is the new idol of the tea party. A few within the Tea Party can not admit this fact but it wont change it. No misrepresentation.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 10:51 | 1558721 whstlblwr
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No, Bachmann co-opt. She not talk social now to try and win Tea Party support because popular. But if debate question her, you see she not Tea Party, she ultra conservative social bitch.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 16:26 | 1559501 AnAnonymous
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That is to the Tea Party to decide.

Her ideas do not matter much. All what matters is that she is empowered (or not) by Tea Partiers.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 19:27 | 1560023 BigJim
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If she's the new 'idol' of the Tea Party, why'd she win less than 30% of the vote?

The Tea Party was originally a Libertarian movement, but it got co-opted by the neo-cons and neo-liberals. That's why it appears so schizophrenic.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 10:52 | 1558722 Hulk
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wanting to be president should be an automatic disqualification for the job...This is a job that we want to drag people kicking and screaming into...

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 12:29 | 1558990 Gargoyle
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Very well stated. Sad but true.


Sun, 08/14/2011 - 02:18 | 1558406 XenoFrog
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Local news station reporting on the straw poll. They say it was a big win for Michelle Bachmann, then they discuss the candidates that came in 3rd-8th. Only at the end of the report do they put up an infographic that shows Ron Paul as 2nd place, and even then, they don't mention his name once.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 02:42 | 1558421 glenlloyd
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IMO she attracted a lot of voters because she essentially claimed 'home state' status with her big info-push about being born in Waterloo. The real truth will be the next where she can't make such a claim.

Ron Paul made a good showing, the difference between 2nd and 3rd was about 2k votes, so not even remotely close. The rest of the group paled in comparison to the first and second place people.

I'm disappointed because she's one of a crowd of pundits / candidates who've latched onto the issues that Paul's been talking about for years...where were all these clowns when this house of cards on sand was being built? Find me some commentary from Bachmann, or any of them for that matter, from back in 2005 when Paul was nailing Bernank's butt to the wall for creating too much money / credit. Sorry, it doesn't exist.


Sun, 08/14/2011 - 06:14 | 1558505 Gringo Viejo
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If I'd been there watchin' her eat that corndog...hell, I'd have voted for her too.

Rumor has it McCain was walkin' around the midway with mirrors on his shoes.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 09:54 | 1558628 knukles
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Truth is she's really born in Kenya (Somalia if you listen to The Donald) was married off to a white Holy Roller Missionary Reverend from The Westboro Baptist Church at the age of 13 and was later sold to the Chalulla Mexican Hot Sauce Cartel for use as a sex slave.
Let's focus here, I'm tryin' to keep it all straight.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 13:53 | 1559148 Temporalist
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Even the advertising, direct marketing and outreach for all "Tea Party" wannabes mimic the Ron Paul campaigns and slogans over the past 4 years.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 14:58 | 1559259 MyKillK
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No, she attracted a lot of voters by handing out 4000 tickets and saying they couldn't listen to her randy jarvis concert until they voted for her.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 04:59 | 1558475 AnAnonymous
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Only at the end of the report do they put up an infographic that shows Ron Paul as 2nd place, and even then, they don't mention his name once.

Makes me laugh.

What else should have been expected? It is funny how all the pseudo people out of the system still want to believe they act convincingly.

US citizens acting in this registry, the pseudo out of the system gimmick, are as transparent as the others.

This act no longer works. It is been a while.

Paul is as system as the others, his followers are as system as the others. His part is to pretend to be outside the system, and this is the way it is staged: pretending to be put him aside. That is Paul's function.

Because how do you stage an pseudo out of the system candidate? By staging a pseudo treatment given to out of the system candidates. And that is what is happening.

The expectations are met. 

If this guy was really against the system, that would have been a long time he would have been confronted and crushed.

That is the way it is.  The US People do not sit on their hands when it comes to destroy potential threats to their US world order.

US citizens who are in the out of the system pseudo theatrics should also realize their act is no longer convincing. Just like every other US citizen.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 11:42 | 1558870 Jason_1sandal
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That would mean.... OMG.... That would mean they have been grooming Ron Paul for 30 years !! It's a total f*#&king conspiracy man...!!


Sun, 08/14/2011 - 16:32 | 1559514 AnAnonymous
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That is not the way it works.

Some US citizens want to perceive themselves as out of the system while they belong to the system.

The place to represent there is there for the taking. There is no conspiracy in grooming one candidate for the job.

Carreer politicians (as Paul) fight over this kind of position. The best gets the position.

What is happening is by popular will.

It made me laugh because the system delivers exactly what the pseudo out of the system US citizens want: a candidate who  looks outside the system.

Would it not strange that the political representative to the pseudo out of the system US citizens is openly within the system?

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 17:28 | 1559683 whstlblwr
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Who came up with this line of thought? You should stay with the electronic voting story. That voting is rigged anyway, so there is no point in voting. It's easier for people to understand.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 12:30 | 1558996 Diet Coke and F...
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Bingo. The illusion of choice.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 15:06 | 1559274 TwelfthVulture
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You do realize that the ideas put forth by Paul for years, long before there was a "tea party," are the very same ideals now being proposed by the tea party?

FOX news online poll: Paul crushes all others; IOWA straw poll: Paul finishes 2nd with 150 less votes than Bachmann; CNN poll: 51% of respondents disapprove of "tea party."

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 15:16 | 1559301 DosZap
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Twelfthvulture,@ 15:06,

Yes, your correct,the 51% eat the shit the MSM feeds them.

No one bothers to look at the facts anymore,they just grab the bait, (lies), and swallow.

That 51% is likely made up of .gub workers, Welfare recips, and young folks who are clueLESS.

They have been brain screwed by the Federal NEA school systems.

Never read the Const, BOR's, or the Amendments to it.

The system has been Marxed.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 08:46 | 1558570 optimator
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Our news headline was "Bachmann wins - Pawlenty in".

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 09:07 | 1558582 goldfish1
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Our news headline was "Bachmann wins - Pawlenty in".

Around here: "Rick Perry spoils Bachmann Win"
The fraud is pervasive and all encompassing.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 10:53 | 1558730 whstlblwr
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It's how scared they are.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 09:49 | 1558623 goldfish1
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Pawlenty withdrew today.

Sat, 08/13/2011 - 20:31 | 1557879 nmewn
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Sat, 08/13/2011 - 20:51 | 1557930 Taint Boil
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ROTFL2 !!!!

Sat, 08/13/2011 - 20:52 | 1557937 Cheesy Bastard
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Sat, 08/13/2011 - 21:49 | 1558094 caerus
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Sat, 08/13/2011 - 22:39 | 1558181 Taint Boil
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Sat, 08/13/2011 - 22:39 | 1558183 WallStreetClass...'s picture

ha ha ha ha

Sat, 08/13/2011 - 22:51 | 1558194 Oh regional Indian
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Hahahaha indeed. What a picture eh?

Come monday, I think a lot of speculators and inverTORS will be feeling that weiner going up the wrong side of their anatomy.

Finance is going to take center stage again. And all this political meodrama will be just that (I am sleepy and cannot tell if th ewhole article above is an onion piece or for realz).

Happpy SUnday, because THe Monday MOrning Blues are a-coming.


Sat, 08/13/2011 - 23:11 | 1558224 Michael
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For all those who helped murder the US carbon tax and CCX including myself, Thank you very, very, very much.

Barack Obama's million dollar suckers, I mean investors, who lost all their money in the exchange arn't going to be very happy with him.

"Intercontinental Exchange Inc. will close its U.S. emissions derivatives platform, the Chicago Climate Futures Exchange, after the first quarter, the Wall Street Journal reported.

ICE plans to start listing derivatives related to emissions reductions plans in New Jersey, Massachussetts, Connecticut and California, along with a sulfur-based contract, the Journal said, citing a notice issued by the company to traders on Friday.

The company is shutting the exchange down as it is losing money and the chances of a federal carbon-reduction plan being put into place look slim, the Journal said.

ICE bought the platform's parent company Climate Exchange PLC in 2010 for about $600 million last year." ICE to shutter Chicago Climate Exchange,0,7784695.story

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 00:20 | 1558306 slewie the pi-rat
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hey, m!

in the casino nearest me the emissions betting takes place in the bathroom stalls

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 01:24 | 1558374 Vic Vinegar
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Looks like tonight we get heart-to-heart dedications.

This one goes out to slewie and Ori.  Two lovers in love.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 01:28 | 1558376 Vic Vinegar
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And this one goes out to Michael.  Michael is a bit of a loser, who doesn't understand shit.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 05:02 | 1558477 NoClueSneaker
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Yeah - hypelrswallowing too... She has the fried frozen butter for $4 in her mouth. A good training for the job, concerning the age of her mentors ....

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 05:07 | 1558481 DaBernank
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another caption: "This is a trick my husband taught me"

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 07:17 | 1558530 Revolution_star...
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"This is a trick my husband taught me"

If you zoomed back he was right beside her with a "big one" in his hand, shit eating grin and tapping his foot to the guy right next to him.


Sat, 08/13/2011 - 20:52 | 1557939 disabledvet
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Worse? Whachutalkin' bout?

Sat, 08/13/2011 - 23:45 | 1558258 Zedge Hero
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Long Long Time ago…..

I can still remember how that money used to make me smile.

 And I knew if I had my choice

 That I could hear those peoples voice

 And, maybe, they’d be happy for a while.


 But September 08 made me shiver

 And I began collecting Silver

 Bad news on the doorstep;

 I couldn’t take one more step.


 I can’t remember if I cried

 When I read about the housing slide,

 But something touched me deep inside

 The day the money died.


 So bye-bye, to the American lie..

 Drove my stock to the top,

 And the market went dry.

And them Wall Street boys were thinking risky with lies

 Saying’, "this’ll be the day that we die.

 "this’ll be the day that we die."


 Did you write loans for the Bank,

 And do you have faith in Ben Bernank,

 for if the Government tells you so?

 Do you believe in too big to fail,

 Is you house now finally up for Sale?

And can you teach me how to refinance real slow


Well, I know that you’re still in love with this

 cause I see it in your complete abyss

 We really both can choose

 Man, I hate those derivatives too.


 I was a lonely disgruntled American buck

 With a sick sensation that started to suck

 But I knew I was out of luck

 The day the money died.


 We started singin’, "bye-bye, to the american lie."

 Drove my stock to the top,

 And the market went dry.

 And them Wall street boys were thinkng risky with lies

 Saying’, "this’ll be the day that we die.

 "this’ll be the day that we die."


 Now for three years we’ve been on our own

 While Bank’s got fat on a rollin’ loan,

 But that’s not how it used to be.

 When geithner says live within our means,

As a puppet from the powers that be

 But a silence came from you and me,


Oh, and while the US was looking down,

China is stealing it’s thorny crown.

 Europe Union was adjourned;

Another bailout was returned.


And while Obama read a book on marx,

The people protested in the park,

And we sold gold in the dark

 The day the money died.


 We were singin’, "bye-bye, to the american lie."

 Drove my stock to the top,

And the market went dry.

 And them Wall street boys were thinkng risky with lies Saying’,

"this’ll be the day that we die.

 "this’ll be the day that we die."


 bets, and debts in a summer sweat.

 The stock fell off cause of Euorpean debt,

World Markets high and falling faaaast.

It’s still too high for the price of gas.

The politicians debt bill did pass,

 With downgrade rating in a flash


 Now the European air was filled with fumes

All the riots were just starting to exhume.

We all got up to fight,

Oh, but we never got the right

`cause the FED tried to print some more

 The money they added was making us poor.

 Do you recall the horror

The day the money died?


 We were singin’, "bye-bye, to the american lie."

 Drove my stock to the top,

 And the market went dry.

 And them Wall street boys were thinkng risky with lies

Saying’, "this’ll be the day that we die.

 "this’ll be the day that we die."


 Oh, and there we were all in one place,

 401 k’s all lost in space

 With no time left to start again.

So come on: Ben be nimble, Ben be quick!

The Federal Reserve and that magic stick

 Cause the printing press is the devil’s only friend.


Oh, and as I watched him on the stage

My hands were clenched in fists of rage.

No angel born in hell

Could break that Chairmen’s spell.

And as the Gold climbed high into the night

 To light the path that was actually right,

 I saw Bernanke laughing with delight

 The day the money died


 He was even singin’, "bye-bye, to the american lie."

 Drove my stock to the top,

 And the market went dry.

 And them Wall street boys were thinkng risky with lies

 Saying’, "this’ll be the day that we die.

 "this’ll be the day that we die."


 I bought some gold and sang the blues

 Hoping for some happy news

 Banks got tired and burned away.

 I went down to the old coin store

 Where I’d bought silver years before,

 But the man there said my money wouldn’t pay.


 And in Wall street: the brokers screamed,

 The CEO's cried, and oil creamed.

But not a word was spoken;

The global markets all were broken.

 And the two men I admire most:

 Ron Paul and Thomas Jefferson’s ghost,

They caught the last train for the coast

 The day the money died.


 And they were even singin’, "bye-bye, to the american lie."

Drove my stock to the top,

 And the market went dry.

 And them Wall street boys were thinkng risky with lies

 Saying’, "this’ll be the day that we die.

"this’ll be the day that we die."


they were even singin’,

"bye-bye, to the american lie."

Drove my stock to the top, And the market went dry.

 And them Wall street boys were thinkng risky with lies

Saying’, "this’ll be the day that we die.

"this’ll be the day that we die."

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 01:36 | 1558383 Vic Vinegar
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Yeah we understand.  Facing reality is tough.  

What causes anyone to type into the machine?  It's kinda weird, no?

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 09:55 | 1558629 clymer
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Someone ought to remove his ability to cut and paste.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 02:38 | 1558419 bardian
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I really enjoyed that, thank you.

"bets, and debts, in a summer sweat..."

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 09:12 | 1558584 goldfish1
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 But the man there said my money wouldn’t pay.


Not that it won't pay...that you don't have enough of it.

Sat, 08/13/2011 - 21:17 | 1558016 ISEEIT
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Yes, you DO know what is worse. It is the President we have now. Ignore that in your face fact if you wish, but reality is a bitch and only the insane repeat the same mistake while expecting a different result. The powers that be are hard on scaring you away from options that threaten them. I agree that Bachman, Palin, Paul all threaten the establishment.

Precisely why I will enthusiastically support any of the above.

Make a mockery of their dog and pony show ponzi.

Sat, 08/13/2011 - 21:38 | 1558073 midtowng
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That you lump Paul in with Bachman and Palin shows you don't really understand what is going on.

Paul is intelligent and thoughtful.

Palin is a dumb reality-TV star and Bachman is about as crazy as they come. Neither threaten the establishment. Only Paul does.

Sat, 08/13/2011 - 22:10 | 1558139 GeorgeHayduke
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A bullseye!

Our owners will let us have morons like Bachman or Palin as they will provide plenty of entertainment, just in the fact the the stupid sheople elected them. That doesn't count the endless comedy of watching them run this crumbling country. It'll be better than Keystone Cops, The Three Stooges and Family Vacation combined.

Ron Paul is a threat and they will let him come close enough to make it look like we have a real choice and can elect someone who will make a difference. But in the end they will ensure they all we get is compliant candidates who are either buffoons like Bachman and Palin, or slick shysters like Obama and Clinton.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 02:55 | 1558425 BigDuke6
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i depresses the shit out of me to say you are totally, 100%, nail on the head correct.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 14:55 | 1559253 slewie the pi-rat
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hey, 6!  you shld prob switch to porn if ur baked

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 15:28 | 1559328 Libertarian777
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Or join the SEC and get paid to watch porn.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 10:58 | 1558738 whstlblwr
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Well you talk about Paul positions to all neighbors. You work for Paul, send money for Paul, you help Paul win enough of us do that, he win. You forget more coming to blog for news. It's new day.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 11:13 | 1558775 Bob
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Perry is an intriguing hybrid type: Slick baffoon.  Stay tuned to your local corporate media outlet . . . he's the guy who will win it all. 

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 12:12 | 1558942 whstlblwr
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Don't think so, the evangelical event make sure he not able to win all, plus fact he really gay.

Sat, 08/13/2011 - 22:17 | 1558150 ISEEIT
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That you think I don't understand what is actually going on proves that you have not a clue. I live this crap dude. I am consumed by it. The contest is far larger and deeper than you seem to grasp. Our country would be better off with a batshit crazy Prez like Bachmann than with a front boy narcissist like Barry. That is word and straight up the truth. Better a simple mistake than a calculated attack. If Barry doesn't go bye-bye, your country does. Take your pick.

The worst that could happen is we exchange one asshat for another. I'm not doubling down on a loser. You can just not vote (like a loser), or you can decide to act sane (do something else).


Sat, 08/13/2011 - 22:28 | 1558163 PaperBugsBurn
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Paul or nothing and even him I wonder about...anybody who really threatens the banksters wouldn't/doesn't get airtime on their Mockingbid Media

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 11:00 | 1558746 whstlblwr
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Yes, Paul or nothing. Bachmann scary crazy.

Sat, 08/13/2011 - 22:30 | 1558169's picture

You can just not vote (like a loser)


Would you like to be smashed in the head with a hammer or with a crowbar? Simply make your choice and suddenly you're winning!

Sat, 08/13/2011 - 22:52 | 1558195 Clearly_Irrational
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Crowbar definitely, it spreads out the impact more so you're less likely to die or suffer traumatic brain injury.  Of course if they hit you hard enough it won't matter.

Sat, 08/13/2011 - 22:59 | 1558209's picture

I wrote-in "comfy pillow" but they didn't count it.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 00:44 | 1558326 FEDbuster
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Paul will take away your social security and food stamps on MSNBC, Paul will legalize heroin and meth on CNN and last but not least Paul would end the FED on CNBC (no QE infinity to take the Dow to 1,000,000).  TPTB will be out in full force to remind Americans of the dangers of freedom.  Keep the sheeple calm while sheering them and then taking them to the slaughter house.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 00:54 | 1558338 High Plains Drifter
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don't forget abour his open borders let us legalize drugs, keep the borders open and get rid of the FED. ysh sure................

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 01:06 | 1558353 FEDbuster
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Not so sure about that.  The other night he said let's bring our troops home to secure our border, not the Afghan/Pakistan border.  Plus, he has said states have the right to refuse services to illegals.  Cutting defense in half (and at least 40% of the other current spending), legalizing drugs and gay marriage and ending the Federal Reserve, should be enough to keep most Republicans from voting for him.  His strong supporter base (I am one of them) is not enough to overpower TPTB, but at least we tried to stop the collapse.  If Ron Paul doesn't win the primary, I am going to vote for Obama.

Restore the Republic, Ron Paul 2012


Hasten the Collapse, OBAMA 2012

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 02:45 | 1558422 glenlloyd
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I'm not sure I've ever heard Paul talk about open borders. But I do know I've heard him repeatedly call for bringing troops home to secure our own borders, and I believe he means it.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 11:22 | 1558812 Montgomery Burns
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Is allowing states to legalize drugs if they wish and keeping the federal gov out of it the same thing as "legalizing drugs"?

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 17:12 | 1559641 FEDbuster
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To the avg. Republican it is.  Just like the avg. Democrat cannot understand NH or AZ firearms freedom (drives the homlophobics crazy!).

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 14:13 | 1559179 Temporalist
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That is utter bullshit.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 07:48 | 1558541 Revolution_star...
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I was a precinct Captain for Ron Paul in 07. People are idiots, I got a list of thousands of registered republicans, started calling and all I heard was "Ron Paul? I ain't votin for Ron Paul". This was the generation that really believes what the boob tube says. I felt pretty good as these same people got laid off, before retirement and are still unemployed today. No education, no skills, no balls and a tick on the ass of america that goes along with whatever the TV tells them to.

I welcome the approaching storm. We need it to was away the weak and the meak. These people have no faith in the true wealth generated by the labor of americans. This is not now the problem, nor has it ever been. The system flows the benefits to the few, and the many are somehow decieved into thinking the combined labor of americans can't generate enough wealth to sustain this country. You need these guys in control, you couldn't do it without them. Of course nothing could be further from the truth, it is nothing but fear they use to rob you of your labor, to keep you creating wealth and yet not keeping any for yourself.

Why do we borrow when we could print. Simple question that tells you all you need to know. You are a debt vehicle, one used to create wealth and drain you from it in one felt swoop. The government is not your friend, trade isn't free, vast wealth does not poole when equity persists.

The chain must be broken, I can't rely on the idiots to wakeup, they are fools who create their own prison. The die has been cast, we had a chance back in 07, it's too late now. We will spend the next ten years moving from crisis to crisis, defining insainity. They will grind the debt payment out of the low end and go about life as normal. The mother of all bubbles, the bond market, awaits it final pop.

I was  buying silver in 2001. Long before most, I know when the final bubble pops, if revolt isn't in place, they will simply come and take your metal. If you think you can hold it to top and walk away making a killing, I beg to differ.

We have no answer but the train wreck, people have to get hurt otherwise power will continue it's consolidation. I am sure we have seen other such times in our history, when people alive then knew we would be forced to evolve or fade away.  Whichever it is the only thing I know for sure is it will continue as it has. It will either get worse and we will go into a dark age, or we will finnally be free of this "power tax" that we are currently under which stands between you and the wealth you create.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 09:25 | 1558601 AngelsMom
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Sun, 08/14/2011 - 10:58 | 1558740 Clycntct
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It's all about the pain.

Pain =s the correction

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 17:43 | 1559725 ISEEIT
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If they tell me to take the hammer, I'll choose the crowbar. This is streetfight logic. I'm really suprisied that so few (any?) of you get it. For the record.............. I dream of an America with Ron Paul as President and a teaparty led house/senate.

All the grown ups realize that such a reality is at least one more cycle away (if ever).

If Barry gets a second term. The game is over.

They have won & only because we let them. I stick with my guns; Bachmann, Palin are a step in the right direction.

Perry/Romney are sell-outs and will carry on with the elitist plan. I'm not looking for another Founding father at this point. What we need is to disrupt THEIR plan.

Paul, Bachmann, or Palin would do that.

And I'm stickin' to it.

Sat, 08/13/2011 - 23:46 | 1558273 Dick Fitz
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I'm taking time to respond to your post just to point out to you how little difference there is between Reagan/Bush1/Clinton/Bush2/Obama and Perry/Palin/Bachmann/Romney or whoever. All of the above WORSHIP at the altar of power. DrP has a 30+ year record of fighting that power, and cogently, coherently explaining the evil that it has spread. His views (attacking Iraq is a mistake, blindly supporting Israel isn't our job, the FED/banks are bankrupting us, liberty is GOOD!) threatens them. Any other Rep/Dem will just be in the same NWO mold, and will lead the US further down the road to perdition.

Google "The Daily Bell" for a deeper examination of these themes, and don't just discount it as "conspiracy" because it doesn't conform to your accepted beliefs. There is a GRAND conspiracy, and the outline of it is obvious to anyone that looks at it with an open mind.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 00:55 | 1558339 High Plains Drifter
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he has a 30 year record of fighting that power?  how so?

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 03:00 | 1558427 Judge Holden
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He's consistently voted against wars and ending our foreign troop deployments, regardless of which party is in power.  He is usually the lone vote against giving money to Israel (I'm being literal, most of those votes go across 434-1.)  He's one of the most outspoken voices defending liberty and opposing the "patriot" act.  From the beginning of his political career, he ran on a campaign of returning to the gold standard, etc, etc.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 06:25 | 1558512 Medea
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Got it.  He has "fought" by ineffectively voting in charades meant to fool the American people into thinking they have a representative government. Keep fighting the good fight!

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 06:38 | 1558517 Moe Howard
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Your right! Thanks for helping me see the light. Paul should have caved and did what everyone else does. That's the answer.

It is a evil bastard for voting against bad things and giving false hope.

You are a rocket surgeon.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 11:37 | 1558856 TaxSlave
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Got it.  He has "fought" by ineffectively voting in charades meant to fool the American people into thinking they have a representative government. Keep fighting the good fight!


The ONLY thing that has EVER restrained tyranny is the threat of personal reprisal.

A lot of people have awakened to just what is being done to them.  Knowledge is sweeping like a grass fire despite all attempts to contain it.  We have compassion for the victims, but we have nothing but contempt for slaves who prefer the comfort of the lash to the intimidating prospect of freedom.  Once you know, and you willingly choose evil, you are the enemy.

One man stands against the tide consistently for decades, and you think your cynicism is clever somehow?  It's not about representative government.  It's about how long you are willing to hold still for the drilling you are getting.  We are here to put sand in your vaseline, you Quisling.

And that goes for the horse you rode in on, too.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 19:51 | 1560075 Judge Holden
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"One man stands against the tide consistently for decades, and you think your cynicism is clever somehow?"


Couldn't have said it better myself, I don't get what makes these people think their cynicism/sarcasm is so smart?  Do they not understand that if the American electorate sent more Ron Paul types to congress, they'd be able to alter the system?  That's how voting works.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 07:58 | 1558548 Revolution_star...
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"he has a 30 year record of fighting that power?  how so?"

Where you been? I wrote him in back in 1988 and you can look at what he said then, it is the same thing he says now.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 17:49 | 1559747 ISEEIT
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Thanks Dick.

I read the dailybell 'daily'. A little bit of what I'm doing is rabble rousing, but I never do that without being able to comfortably fall on the sword that I'm swinging. I am 100% sincere in my belief that America would be better off 50 years from now if we dumped barry for Michelle/Sarah/any of the above.

Barry is going down. The worst replacements would be Mitt/Rick.

Different clowns. Same performance.

Sat, 08/13/2011 - 23:56 | 1558287 Lower Class Elite
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The worst that could happen is we exchange one asshat for another.

Oh, that's so totally not the worst that could happen.  Keep on voting, Nancy.  They'll give you a sticker when you're done. 

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 01:39 | 1558386 Vic Vinegar
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You always had one of the best avatar's and userids, LCE.  Nice work as always.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 14:40 | 1559228 Lower Class Elite
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Just livin' the High Life, Mr. Vinegar.  Just livin' the High Life.

Sat, 08/13/2011 - 22:18 | 1558154 Jack Napier
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Actually you're both wrong. None of them threaten the establishment. Dr. Paul's wife, daughters, and father are/were in the masonic order. He is controlled opposition. You are in the process of waking up, but still need to get the sleep out of your eyes.

Sat, 08/13/2011 - 22:29 | 1558166 PaperBugsBurn
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Sat, 08/13/2011 - 23:43 | 1558271 adeptish
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Sources please...

Sat, 08/13/2011 - 23:55 | 1558284 Dick Fitz
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Jack Napier-

I've been following DrP for nearly 15 years, and even if he is a "Masonic" plant, his ideas are far stronger than the man himself. Even of he loses, the seeds of liberal decentralization and skepticism will live on. I have no doubt that Judge Napilitano or his son Rand or even some currently unknown Austro-libertarian will take his place.

The appeal of true liberalism, and smalltinymicroscopic government is the future. DrP is just the bleeding edge of the movement!!! Why do you think his average supporter is under 30? Why does he have so much support from the military? Not him- it is his IDEAS and IDEALS!

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 00:57 | 1558341 High Plains Drifter
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all you are saying may be true, but it really doesn't matter at this point. it is too late...........there will be no more generations to absorb whatever ideas he leaves is the end or near it ...............

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 01:01 | 1558347 slewie the pi-rat
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maybe you'd enjoy ORI's site

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 01:13 | 1558344 slewie the pi-rat
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maybe you or someone else who knows his stuff  can help me, D_F
i've been intrigued by his idea to "cancel" the $1.6 Tril of Treasury debt on the FEDs balance sheet.  do you think this is ok with the FED?   what is going on?

seen this?  Rep. Paul introduces bill to cancel $1.6T in debt held by Federal Reserve - The Hill's Floor Action

or this?  Bill Summary & Status - 112th Congress (2011 - 2012) - H.R.2768 - THOMAS (Library of Congress)  

this link above has another link saying what the constitutional authority for this bill is.

according to ron paul the constitution authorized congress to do this under art 1 sec8:  which is in this:  Article I | LII / Legal Information Institute

beats the hell outa me what the legal argument might be to try this, but paul thinks it is covered, here.  from the first link, above (Paste) :  But Paul has argued that Fed purchases of Treasury debt represent a debt that the government owes to itself (End paste)
if this is a done deal, then they will just pass it, and BB will just say ok, deal!

(un)holy chairsatan, batmanke!  is this a stealth nationalization of the FED?  how fucked up is this?
the implicationz seems to slewie to be:  why even sell them the paper in the first place?  just have timmah call or just give him a "Print Button" and we're on our way.  then we can balance the budget, too, of course, b/c we won't have any debt no matter how much we spend. 
or maybe they'll do QEII redux, with all the PDs and the auctions and then the FED will just buy whatever anybody thinks is excess for them after they buy it.

earlier today, there were some comments about bill still whose idea is to save the world econom and for the US, just have the Treas print US notes and --  no debt.  same-same almost, except one sez FR note and other sez US note   SR 23: Baby Birds - YouTube   well, that's part of still's plan, i think, and there are 6 parts total. 

no shit
if ron paul sez this is legal and nobody sez boofukinhoo, welcome to america!

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 01:17 | 1558366 FEDbuster
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The FED actually rebates all the interest paid to them by the Treasury, back to the Treasury.  Of course the owners of the FED skim a 6% "dividend" and expenses off the top, but most of the funny money is just recycled.  The shell game, ponzi is so rigged, complex and secret no one could figure the whole thing out.  I don't know why the FED doesn't buy the whole damn $15 trillion then rip up the notes?  I guess they would lose control of our government, and be unable to extract the rest of the real wealth from our Country.  Stupid me.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 02:13 | 1558378 slewie the pi-rat
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well, somewhere along the continuum, i think that is exactly what we're talking abt.
i'd heard that about the interest, but thanks for the jog, and getting it up, here.
this is principle, and it's $1.6 tril, to open, now.  this seems pretty newy2slewie.  i had the thought: what's 6%?

... and had an aneurysm

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 01:36 | 1558384 slewie the pi-rat
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fuk helicopterz

B-52s!  ICBMs!

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 01:51 | 1558391 slewie the pi-rat
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w.b. slewie

the trojan horse has eaten the poison pill
narcissus gazes ever young
piping pan pissing in a garden
black helicopters chopping up black swans
like a hydra-headed mofo
feathers everywhere
turbines clogged
we augured into a featherbed of FRNs
strawberry fields forever
tyler is now debt-free

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 02:06 | 1558398 Things that go bump
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Thanks!  I read that twice.  

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 12:22 | 1558977 RockyRacoon
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Thanks for the metaphor smorgasbord!

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 14:43 | 1559234 Lower Class Elite
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A veritable Golden Corral of metaphors. 

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 06:40 | 1558519 Moe Howard
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He also howls at the moon. And worships the Aqua Budda. Did I miss anything?

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 14:05 | 1559158 Temporalist
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Right on G!  Those two neo-nazis Bachman and Palin would take "Liberty" out of the Constitution because they'd much rather tell people what they can and can't do based on their "faith" and other mystical mumbojumbo about hell and devils.  If there were ever a natural disaster and they were in charge they'd say "God is angry at sinners" and blame people that chew gum.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 14:50 | 1559245 DosZap
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Temporalist @14:05 & G

Neo Nazi's?................They would take Liberty?.Your likely an atheist,(and thats's your right) and you have right to your OPINION,but that's ALL it is,and this  PC BS that we have had enough of (far too much of) in this country already.

A House divided cannot stand................never have I seen it more divided.Your so full of shit I can smell it from here. LOOK at the POS we have now.

And your telling me they would be worse?(if they had a chance in hell of getting the nomination anyway).Are your losing your LIBERTIES now?.

You bet your sweet ass.

WE still have a Constitution, and as POTUS, either of the two would still have to go thru the system,and forcing their religious beliefs on Americans would go over like a fart in a spacesuit.

Except Barak Sotero of course, he just ignores it, and does as he pleases. Almost anyone on that stage,would likely be FAR superior to what we have, and if we get for 4 more........Grab your ankles, and take the Corn Dog.(if he doesn't do it prior to '12).

Since we are talking purely hypotheticals here anyway, NO way in hell either Bachmann, or Paul gets elected...just hope we get at least an American,that cares about the founding principles we were built on.

 One can wish.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 16:20 | 1559453 Temporalist
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Yea they're all the same, Obama, Bush, Clinton.  It bothers me that their "faith" immediately gives them an electorate that is easily manipulated and they know it.  Their version of America is one that is "founded on Christian principles" and they're all too happy to exclude people by promoting that idea.

Sat, 08/13/2011 - 21:42 | 1558078 nonclaim
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Heh? I meant between the two *events*. Of course O is worse but his campaign managers never allowed him to make such terrible mistakes... pictures only with a halo on the background... Come on, these days, he is not allowed to say one work that is not scripted, FFS.

Not sure about a mockery... people think things can only get worse up to a point and then it magically breaks into a rainbow and unicorns' heaven. Things can get worse indefinitely. *Actions* must be taken to steer the ship in the right direction, and a weak candidate, alone or backed only by sheeple, against "the establishment" will not be able to do it. Sorry.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 01:35 | 1558381 Libertarian777
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Sorry, Bachmann is not a threat to the establishment.
She wants war with Iran. I hope all 28 of her kids are first to the fight.

She won't cut SS Medicare or Medicaid.

How is she different again?

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 10:00 | 1558635 knukles
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Wake the fuck up!

Bread and Circuses

This is part of the Circus.  She's a neo-con shill being poised as something attractive to some, enlightening for the purposes of the debate.
It's fucking show time! 
Nothing more.

She's a neo-con shill.  Just like Obama fer Christ's sake.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 09:21 | 1558595 goldfish1
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It is the President we have now.


Where to start?

Sat, 08/13/2011 - 21:35 | 1558066 midtowng
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Bachmann isn't just a moron, she's a nut. If the Republicans can't sidetrack her then they are even worse than the Democrats and deserve to lose.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 00:46 | 1558330 FEDbuster
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She lost me when she said she would make porn illegal.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 02:24 | 1558412 XenoFrog
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the ultimate drug war.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 03:12 | 1558435 blunderdog
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Just adopt or foster enough kids, like she did.  The gummit pays you, and you have access to your own porn whenever you want.

Ron Paul never had a chance of winning anything, so the straw polls were encouraging that there were people actually paying some attention to what he says.

Bachmann really COULD have a chance of winning, so the straw poll results are terrifying--there are that many people who never once gave a fuck what she said.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 06:15 | 1558506 oogs66
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I didn't know that.  I just went from being scared to terrified

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 10:02 | 1558637 knukles
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Well, that lost my vote. 

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 01:11 | 1558361 Tejano
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I could tolerate (from a distance) a moron and a nut. Bachman is worse than that - much worse.

A tax collecting LAWYER for the IRS, 1988-92. Only job she ever had - putting folks in jail.

We know what tax collectors deserve.

Sat, 08/13/2011 - 22:23 | 1558161 CrashisOptimistic
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I suspect there are rather more than 10,000 GOP voters in Iowa, which is all that were measured here by the $30 vote purchase.

Pretty much meaningless.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 15:47 | 1559374 RockyRacoon
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... Bachmann proceeded to hand out 6000 free tickets at $30 each with a mandatory registration at her booth to gain concert entrance.

She bought the vote!   Imagine how Dr. Paul would have stomped her had the vote been fair!

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 17:15 | 1559649 FEDbuster
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Sounds like she has learned something during her time in D.C., how to buy votes!

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 10:20 | 1558664 masterinchancery
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Not to worry, it's Perry.

Sat, 08/13/2011 - 19:56 | 1557764 anynonmous
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at least ZH mentions Ron Paul

because the Aholes at Business Insider ignore him


and if you watch CNN Bachmann and Paul don't exist  - for them it is all about Perry and Rommel


PS good photoshop ZH,  WB7 would be proud

Sat, 08/13/2011 - 20:07 | 1557809 spiral_eyes
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STOP this vile neocon perry! 

prediction (plucked out of the air) of caucus:

bachmann — 25%
ron paul — 30%
perry —  30%
romney — 20%
santorum — 3%
cain — 2%

t-paw, huntsman, etc drop out.

all i hope is sarah palin comes into the race and splits the dumbass neocon vote some more. sadly i think the final two will be dr no and slick rick. stay optimistic, bitchez! 

Sat, 08/13/2011 - 20:18 | 1557834 Koffieshop
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Has it ever occurred to you that voting for the worst candidate may be the best option now?

The sooner the system goes bankrupt, the sooner the REAL recovery can start. Russia would not have a manned space program right now if the USSR would have dragged on for another 15 years.........

Sat, 08/13/2011 - 20:34 | 1557890 CosmicBuddha
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I agree Kofieshop. I used to be really angry about the bailouts, money printing and ZIRP; now I am absolutely delighted. It is like watching your enemy digging away at the foundations of their own fortification, it is brilliant! Let us have another complete knob in the Whitehouse, and long may the Bernank reign supreme. What better way to demolish Keynesian economics and the fraudulent and corrupt fiat currency system?

Sat, 08/13/2011 - 21:05 | 1557951 Koffieshop
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I wouldn't say 'delighted'. A lot of people are going to have a really REALLY bad decade (just like the USSR collapse). However it's like dwdollar said below;

There is no way in hell the USA is going to roll back the global empire preemptively There is too much corruption and denial going on for the government to act responsible.


Btw, did the USA actually implement Keynesian economics?

Did the government cut spending when times were good?  Does Keynesian economics say anything about using your currency as a tool to manipulate global trade?



Sat, 08/13/2011 - 22:04 | 1558121 CosmicBuddha
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The heart of Keynesianism is the belief in central control and management of the economy through control of interest rates and the money supply. This policy lies at the heart of the entire global economy not just the USA. Whether the current system is true Keynesianism or not is as irrelevant as whether the old soviet system was true communism. Both systems were and are a failure, and will always be so because they fly in the face of reality.

The end of something awful, however painful, is always a good thing and should always be delighted in. Sometimes it is through our greatest suffering that our greatest achievements are realized. Good and bad are a human construct that often fails to take into consideration the complete picture.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 02:30 | 1558415 Pay Day Today
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Can't agree with your analysis on Keynesian economics there. Keynesian economics has a very strong focus on government activity to smooth out business cycles and especially on maintaining aggregate economic demand during severe downturns.

A Keynesian response now, at a stage where it is becoming apparent that high unemployment and low business demand are being entrenched would be to directly hire millions of workers, WPA style.

Further, because of the balance sheet nature of this collapse, any additional monetary policy changes will be useless. 0% interest rates, quantitative easing, etc have no hope of helping Main St.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 05:07 | 1558480 CosmicBuddha
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What do you think the bailouts were all about? What do you think QE and zirp is all about? These policies are all intended to create aggregate demand and thereby create employment. The fact that they failed is not a proof they are not Keynesian policies, merely a reflection that Keynesianism never works.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 05:39 | 1558488 Pay Day Today
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Purchasing someone's bad debts and bad assets is NOT Keynesian stimulus! The bank bail outs were all about rescuing banks from their own toxic investment decisions and returning liquidity to the debt markets.

They were never going to stimulate aggregate demand across the service sector, the health sector, manufacturing or retail. The bailouts and ZIRP are gifts to WALL ST not MAIN ST.

If you really wanted to create aggregate demand you would have directly employed millions of American workers WPA style.

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