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Fri, 08/19/2011 - 10:35 | 1577132's picture

Ron Paul beat Rick Perry in a poll of Texas voters: Ron Paul 22%, Rick Perry 17%.

Perry is unelectable.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 10:42 | 1577189 John Law Lives
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"Perry is unelectable."

Watch and see.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 10:43 | 1577200's picture

Perry can't win. Ron Paul beats Perry by five points in their home state of Texas.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 10:45 | 1577216 John Law Lives
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Watch and see.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 10:47 | 1577225's picture

Read and weep.


Ron Paul clobbers Rick Perry in latest poll



Fri, 08/19/2011 - 10:53 | 1577263 John Law Lives
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You are 100% delusional if you think Ron Paul is REALISTIC candidate for President.  He has approximately 0.0% chance of winning the GOP nomination.  Perry most certainly can defeat Obama in the general election.  Watch and learn.  

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 11:01 | 1577303's picture

Right. Quoting actual polling data in which Paul beats Perry makes me delusional, but making up imaginary figures (0.0%) makes you a rational human being.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 11:16 | 1577393 John Law Lives
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Here is some recent polling data for you:

Rasmussen Poll has Bachmann third, after Perry, Romney
By Joe Kimball | Published Wed, Aug 17 2011 8:43 am

The poll has:

Perry 29%
Romney 18%
Bachmann 13%
Ron Paul 9%

Quick, tell us all how the Rasmussen data is not valid etc. etc. ad nauseam, ad infinitum, blah, blah, blah.

Ron Paul has no chance at the GOP nomination.  If you are feeling confident, let us take a public wager.  If Ron Paul loses the GOP nomination, you agree to never post on ZH again.  If Ron Paul wins the GOP nomination, I will never post on ZH again.  Care to accept the bet?


Fri, 08/19/2011 - 11:20 | 1577415's picture

Paul beats Perry in the poll of Texas voters. The Texans know both of these men far better than Americans at large do. As the general population gets to learn more about Perry they will draw the same conclusion.

Perry can't win because just like Al Gore he can't carry his home state.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 11:23 | 1577433 John Law Lives
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Do you accept my wager? Yes or no?

Everyone on this thread can be a witness to the wager I have offered.  Let Tyler remove the account of the one of us who loses the bet.

Ron Paul will not win the GOP nomination.  No chance.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 11:34 | 1577499's picture



Your wager holds no interest for me. I don't care whether you continue to post here or not. This site belongs to the Tylers. If you want to bargain for posting rights at ZH do it with the owners, not me.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 13:36 | 1578069 John Law Lives
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Fri, 08/19/2011 - 13:44 | 1578100 tarsubil
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How about a better wager not subject to insider information? I wager in a dual, I would win and you would lose. Want to take me up on the offer?

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 14:32 | 1578315 John Law Lives
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I'll tell you what.  Take the Mensa entrance exam and then publish your membership number.  Then, you can look me up in the Mensa directory. 

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 14:38 | 1578342 tarsubil
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LOL, I love it. Is this a formal invitation to join the oligarchs? I was wondering if one was coming. My price is 1000 oz of gold, a book deal (with complete editorial freedom), and teleworking privileges.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 15:14 | 1578472 John Law Lives
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"Is this a formal invitation to join the oligarchs?"

It is an invitation to test your IQ and see if you qualify for membership.  Since you apparently believe you are my intellectual superior, submit yourself to a standardized IQ test and see if you qualify.

Well?  When are you going to sit for the exam?

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 15:28 | 1578514 tarsubil
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Let your superiors know I'm willing to negotiate.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 15:52 | 1578614 John Law Lives
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There are no negotiations.  You either have the intellectual horsepower to pass the exam or you do not.  Meanwhile:

1. Feel free to vote for Ron Paul in the GOP primary.

2. Feel free to vote (or not vote) in the general election after Perry is nominated.

3. Feel free to immolate yourself in gasoline after Paul loses the GOP primary.  After all, the choice is yours.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 16:06 | 1578672 tarsubil
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Bummer. I really wanted that 1000 oz and book deal. Teleworking would have been a bonus too.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 16:22 | 1578739 Bananamerican
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For some reason i picture you at the menstrual meetings speaking in a Marvin the Martian voice.... genius

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 19:34 | 1579516 DaveyJones
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your comments on the standardized IQ test reveal more about you IQ (and maturity) than the test results

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 11:52 | 1577595 Tunga
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Paul has 68% vs. Perry 19% on yesterdays Fox and Friends poll. 6000 votes for Paul 1900 for Perry.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 12:09 | 1577672 ronin12
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Why do

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 11:24 | 1577439 Temporalist
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Clearly John here has a defect so don't waste your time.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 11:29 | 1577474 John Law Lives
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Got ad hominem attacks, bitchez?

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 13:46 | 1578105 tarsubil
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Another f'ing troll. You guys always give it away with the blatant hypocrisy on consecutive posts.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 14:33 | 1578320 John Law Lives
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Got haterade, bitchez?

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 14:39 | 1578347 tarsubil
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Weak effort.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 15:15 | 1578476 John Law Lives
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Take the Mensa entrance exam and get back to me...

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 15:32 | 1578534 tarsubil
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I'm starting my own group, DENSA.

You have to answer one question for membership:

In a political contest between Barack Obama and Rick Perry, you would vote for:

1) Barack Obama

2) Rick Perry

3) Write in Ron Paul


You've already given me your answer and you have been denied membership. HAHAHA! Naaa-na-naaaa-na-booboo stick your head in doodoo!

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 15:53 | 1578617 John Law Lives
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1. Feel free to vote for Ron Paul in the GOP primary.

2. Feel free to vote (or not vote) in the general election after Perry is nominated.

3. Feel free to immolate yourself in gasoline after Paul loses the GOP primary.  After all, the choice is yours.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 12:06 | 1577657 ronin12
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Go Team! My guy is better than your guy!

Stupid peasant.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 13:37 | 1578073 John Law Lives
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Anarchist!  Go bury your head in the fucking sand, troglodyte.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 19:37 | 1579536 DaveyJones
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Johnny, it's time to come in now. Tell those other boys to stop teasing you. You know they're just jealous of your test scores

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 14:20 | 1578258 pods
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Hey, I watched the Holy Grail yesterday.

It is "Bloody peasant" followed by "Now we see the violence inherent in the system!"

My favorite:

" Oh but if I went 'round sayin' I was Emperor, just because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away."

Sometimes on days like today you need a bit of humor.


Fri, 08/19/2011 - 13:43 | 1578097 tarsubil
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Ron Paul is running against the establishment while Perry is a part of the establishment. Perry may be appointed to chief stooge. Whether Ron Paul becomes a giant monkey wrench in the machine or not is up to people that are sick of the trolls.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 14:34 | 1578324 John Law Lives
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As an FYI, Perry has been elected as Governor of Texas in three (3) different elections (2002, 2006 and 2010).  Prior to that, he was elected as Lieutenant Governor in one (1) election (1998).  Prior to that, he was elected to the position of Agriculture Commissioner in two (2) different elections (1990 and 1994).  Prior to that, Rick Perry was elected to the State Legislature in three (3) different elections (1984, 1986 and 1988).  In fact, The Dallas Morning News named Perry one of the ten most effective members of the legislature.

Rick Perry has been elected to a statewide office in Texas in NINE (9) different elections.  I would say the people of Texas have clearly and repeatedly spoken re. his qualifications at each level.

Get ready.  He IS going to be the GOP nominee for President.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 14:41 | 1578359 tarsubil
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That is a horrible argument. Ron Paul has been elected to office in Texas numerous times also. The original point you were trying to make is that Ron Paul is not electable. Come on, MENSA man, you can do better.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 15:26 | 1578510 John Law Lives
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The argument is a rebuttal to those who claim (based upon the result of one poll) that Ron Paul has greater broad appeal throughout the State of Texas than Rick Perry does.  Perry has won a STATEWIDE election six (6) different times (Ag Commisioner, Lt. Governor and Governor).  Ron Paul has been elected as US Representative in the 14th Congressional District and the 22nd Congressional District, but Ron Paul has NEVER won a statewide election in Texas.  My argument is logical and sound.  The fact that it goes over your head is your problem.  I have had no hand in your incompetence.      

tarsubil, you will never match wits with me.  Go back to the minor leagues.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 15:34 | 1578543 tarsubil
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What about the poll that puts Paul in front of Perry in Texas?

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 15:54 | 1578624 John Law Lives
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1. Feel free to vote for Ron Paul in the GOP primary.

2. Feel free to vote (or not vote) in the general election after Perry is nominated.

3. Feel free to immolate yourself in gasoline after Paul loses the GOP primary.  After all, the choice is yours.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 16:09 | 1578687 tarsubil
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I'm pretty sure copying and pasting is frowned upon by your superiors. Duplicate posts do not count towards your quota.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 16:22 | 1578752 John Law Lives
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I'm pretty sure that copying and pasting something filled with wit and wisdom is of greater value than the pablum you post on this thread.

Wake me up when you have something intelligent to say.  Until then, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz (that is the sound of me snoring).


Fri, 08/19/2011 - 20:01 | 1579606 monoloco
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Ron Paul will have trouble winning the Republican primary UNLESS, there is a movement among libertarian minded Democrats and independents  (which there are a lot of) to register as Republicans in order to vote for him in the primaries. However, if he does manage to win the nomination, I believe he is the only candidate capable of CREAMING Obama in the general. He's the only one in the race who could pretty much rely on 100% of Republican votes and a substantial cross over from Democrats and indepenent voters.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 22:02 | 1579901 Bob
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Not a value judgment, but an observation: His volunteers are out in force on blogs frequented--of all people--by severely disaffected "progressives." 

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 10:44 | 1577209 Debt-Penitent
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Is Perot still alive?  ...or at least continent?

I'd vote for him if he's not in Hospice yet.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 10:38 | 1577150 Ident 7777 economy
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John Law Lives  Fri, 08/19/2011 - 10:26 

Ron Paul is a man of integrity

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THAT'S not who pulls these shenanigans; it's the crowd of 'loose cannons' that follow him adoringly and would to ANYTHING for him ...




Fri, 08/19/2011 - 10:44 | 1577212 John Law Lives
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I know plenty of Ron Paul's disciples.  They think he walks on water.  Unfortunately for them, he is not who the GOP Establishment wants.  He is not going to win the nomination.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 10:51 | 1577255's picture

If you knew anything about Ron Paul supporters you'd know they aren't "disciples." We think for ourselves and look forward to the day when President Paul takes office and no one -- including Paul himself -- will force us to do things we find morally reprehensible or financially burdensome.

Fri, 08/19/2011 - 11:13 | 1577374 i-dog
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Dude, you're on some seriously good shrooms!!

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